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Anyone running this? and if so, how does it work as far as development stuff goes. I just dont want to lose ADB and everything. I have a spare HDD lying around so I may just swap them out and install on there, or I could fix my old laptops LCD and get that system running with windows 7... regardless, I want to try before i buy lol
anyone got their own $.02?
PS- mods feel free to move this to the correct forum if need be, I wasnt sure where I would post a question like this as it regards to the Dream and the computer side of things...
I learned how to use ADB on Windows 7 and been using it ever since.
DOHCtor said:
I learned how to use ADB on Windows 7 and been using it ever since.
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sweet... i am downloading the RC now soooooo... any pointers/advice... lol
only downside I am seeing down the road is having to/wipe/re-install the actual release and not just being able to upgrade... i tried doing a seperate partition, but my computer wont let me shrink my C:\ only my Recovery (E:\)
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sweet... i am downloading the RC now soooooo... any pointers/advice... lol
only downside I am seeing down the road is having to/wipe/re-install the actual release and not just being able to upgrade... i tried doing a seperate partition, but my computer wont let me shrink my C:\ only my Recovery (E:\)
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Everything works on my x64 install (and it's where I do all my development), and I assume RC will work the same.
I was originally using Vista Home Premium and am now on the 7 RC. First off, there was a small problem applying to a group of Vista users that caused them to have a lot of problems installing ADB drivers, me included, in fact it was so screwed up I ended up completely messing up my computer and having to do a system restore and after a few hours was finally able to get it to install. Once I installed Windows 7 RC, I connected my G1, went to Device Manager, clicked on the G1 and installed the ADB drivers, and done. However, for me, I am unable to mount my phone as a mass storage device to access the SD card, in order to do this, I have to disable USB debugging on my phone, and it works, then reenable it again later to use ADB.
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Everything works on my x64 install (and it's where I do all my development), and I assume RC will work the same.
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thanks... i am debating things now... install new os or not to install... hmmm
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I was originally using Vista Home Premium and am now on the 7 RC. First off, there was a small problem applying to a group of Vista users that caused them to have a lot of problems installing ADB drivers, me included, in fact it was so screwed up I ended up completely messing up my computer and having to do a system restore and after a few hours was finally able to get it to install. Once I installed Windows 7 RC, I connected my G1, went to Device Manager, clicked on the G1 and installed the ADB drivers, and done. However, for me, I am unable to mount my phone as a mass storage device to access the SD card, in order to do this, I have to disable USB debugging on my phone, and it works, then reenable it again later to use ADB.
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I am hoping all goes well, if not I have backed everything up and I know where to come with all my questions regarding g1 things...
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I am hoping all goes well, if not I have backed everything up and I know where to come with all my questions regarding g1 things...
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You shouldn't need to back anything up. Windows 7 RC doesn't require a clean install, it can back everything up for you.
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You shouldn't need to back anything up. Windows 7 RC doesn't require a clean install, it can back everything up for you.
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Right, but one of the reasons i backed up now was so that when Windows 7 is actually released, i wont have to do it then seeing as how it will be in the middle of a semester for school and such. The 7 RC installs an "upgrade" so I should be in good shape as far as directories and all that go right? meaning i wont have to go into windows.old to find items i have downloaded and flashed to my current build on my g1.... they should be preserved... i would think...
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Right, but one of the reasons i backed up now was so that when Windows 7 is actually released, i wont have to do it then seeing as how it will be in the middle of a semester for school and such. The 7 RC installs an "upgrade" so I should be in good shape as far as directories and all that go right? meaning i wont have to go into windows.old to find items i have downloaded and flashed to my current build on my g1.... they should be preserved... i would think...
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They will be, and that is a good point as Microsoft doesn't offer an upgrade to Windows 7 OEM from RC, which is a bit annoying.
so i told myself before i started the install that if i got one error, i would stop right there and exit setup... a quarter of the way copying files it stopped and said that the files could not be copied blah blah... i think i may just wait til the OS goes public and upgrade then =P
mods feel free to trash this thread now... thanks to all you guys that chimed in to help!
I use virtual box or vmware and "xp pirate edition" to do all my adb work...
I'm looking to update my Inc. to 2.2 but the ROMs suggest upgrading to radio 2.x. I'm pretty new to this and a little confused by the instructions.
The instructions I'm following are these
How to flash the 2.x radio.
Rooted
1. Download PB31IMG.zip and place it in the root of you SDCARD. Make sure the FS is FAT32, otherwise PB13IMG.zip will not flash.
1a. Link has been updated so you no longer have to apply the VZW exchange OTA.
2. Now go to the bootloader.
2a. Run 'adb reboot oem-42' if powered up or hold Power + Volume Down if your phone is off.
3. It should automatically start loading PB31IMG.zip. Then accept it when it asks you to load it or not (pretty sure Vol Up).
4. You are now completely stock. You should remove PB31IMG from your SDCARD now.
5. Download dinc_ota.zip, rename it to update.zip and place it in the root of your SDCARD.
6. Now boot into recovery and apply the zip.
6a. adb reboot recovery if powered up or Power + Volume Down then select Recovery.
6b. Now hit Power + Volume Up to bring up the Recovery menu.
6c. Now select apply update.zip
7. Go to Settings > About phone > Software information > Baseband version and verify that it's 2.05.00.06.11.
8. Now download and run Unrevoked 3 to reroot and install ClockworkMod recovery.
9. Now you can go ahead and do a Full Wipe then install the Stock Froyo rom.
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I'm actually lost right away with making sure the FS is Fat32, what is the FS and how do I check this
After that I assume I'm rebooting in Bootloader, is there a difference between that and bootin in recovery?
I guess I'm just looking for a walkthrough in lay mans terms.
Maybe format size? When you hook the drive up to the pc, go to my computer, locate the sd card, right click and then format. It gives you an option to format in FAT32, make sure its checked. Then format.
Place the PB31IMG.zip at the root of the sd card.
Go into bootloader and the file will be checked by the phone then ask you if you want to update. Yes.
Reboot.
Enjoy.
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FS == File System. htc_woe_is_me is spot on with what to do.
I believe if you're going to use the 2.15x radio ... you need to make sure you are S-Off using hte Unr3voked Forever tool.
If you're using the 2.05x radio, you should be fine without going S-Off
Okay, lets start with the basics. Fs is file system. There are different types of file systems. Fat32 and ntfs are common. You format your SD card as fat32, cause that is what's best for your phone. The SD card that came with your phone should be good to go. Before you follow these instructions you must be sure to accompolish a few things.
1)First you must be rooted. Unrevoked has the one stop root tool.
2)Next you must perform the unrevoked forever tool. This tool will grant you nand access allowing your radio to be updated..
have you performed these steps?
I Dont want to flood you with instructions if you aren't fully ready yet
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Okay, lets start with the basics. Fs is file system. There are different types of file systems. Fat32 and ntfs are common. You format your SD card as fat32, cause that is what's best for your phone. The SD card that came with your phone should be good to go. Before you follow these instructions you must be sure to accompolish a few things.
1)First you must be rooted. Unrevoked has the one stop root tool.
2)Next you must perform the unrevoked forever tool. This tool will grant you nand access allowing your radio to be updated..
have you performed these steps?
I Dont want to flood you with instructions if you aren't fully ready yet
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Yes both those steps have been completed.
htc_woe_is_me said:
Maybe format size? When you hook the drive up to the pc, go to my computer, locate the sd card, right click and then format. It gives you an option to format in FAT32, make sure its checked. Then format.
Place the PB31IMG.zip at the root of the sd card.
Go into bootloader and the file will be checked by the phone then ask you if you want to update. Yes.
Reboot.
Enjoy.
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I'm on a mac, it says the format of my SD Card is "MS-DOS - Fat16" no sign of how to change it though
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I'm on a mac, it says the format of my SD Card is "MS-DOS - Fat16" no sign of how to change it though
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Macs are for people that just "want things to work*". If you wish to tinker (ie. learn and have fun), get a PC.
If you REALLY want to get into tinkering/hacking**/learning, skip windows and go straight to Linux. It won't be easy, but you will learn skills that are incredibly valuable***.
* - By that, I mean people that want their computers to hold their hand and think for them.
** - Search for computer hacking on wikipedia before you make any bad assumptions (sorry, I still can't post links).
*** - Why yes, I am a well paid Linux admin with incredible job security, why do you ask?
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Macs are for people that just "want things to work*". If you wish to tinker (ie. learn and have fun), get a PC.
If you REALLY want to get into tinkering/hacking**/learning, skip windows and go straight to Linux. It won't be easy, but you will learn skills that are incredibly valuable***.
* - By that, I mean people that want their computers to hold their hand and think for them.
** - Search for computer hacking on wikipedia before you make any bad assumptions (sorry, I still can't post links).
*** - Why yes, I am a well paid Linux admin with incredible job security, why do you ask?
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That was the stupidest post I've ever read in my entire life. You're paid too much whatever you do.
I think you can format it thru disk utility. My mac knowledge is very little though, try Googling it?
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I'm on a mac, it says the format of my SD Card is "MS-DOS - Fat16" no sign of how to change it though
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qmmartman711 was correct: Go to your utilities folder and open the Disk Utility app. Click on the disk that you want to reformat (it will appear in the left pane). In the right pane there will be options (First Aid, Erase, RAID, Restore). Click on the Erase tab/button. From there you'll see an Entry near the middle of the window that says 'Format' with a drop down list. If it already says MS-DOS(FAT) you're in good shape. Fill in the name you want the volume to have and press Erase.
BTW: In response to an earlier quote about Mac/PC/Linux. Macs are at their core BSD/Unix you can drop down to a shell any time and do whatever you want.
So I formatted it to FAT32 and placed the file in the root of my sd card, the problem is when I run bootloader it doesn't automatically do anything. Both the directions I'm following and the guys in this post say it should automatically open the file but thats not happening.
Any thoughts?
any ideas?
Berzerker7 said:
That was the stupidest post I've ever read in my entire life. You're paid too much whatever you do.
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I agree for the most part I build PC's and only recommend them because It brings in money. I personally use a Mac. I agree that PC's give you more bottom level access but 90 percent of what you can do on a PC you can do with MAC. Dont hate on us MAC users!
Kipphh said:
I agree for the most part I build PC's and only recommend them because It brings in money. I personally use a Mac. I agree that PC's give you more bottom level access but 90 percent of what you can do on a PC you can do with MAC. Dont hate on us MAC users!
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It's not the fact that he hated on Mac users, it's just the specifics of what he wrote. But we digress.
Once you get onto the boot loader (get to boot loader by simultaneously pressing the power and volume up button) and wait a little bit it should ask for confirmation to update phone. Just press volume up button to confirm and there you sucesfully updated your phone.
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I just realized that my phone is no long reading my SD Card, I think after reformatting it, it started with the problems. That might be why it's not picking up the update.
Not I can't put anything on my SD Card when I plug it into my computer, I get a Mac error code -8003. Looks like I ruined my SD Card? Guess I'll pick up a new one, load my back up onto it and just go back to stock.
Why don't you format the card from your phone? That way it will definitely be recognizeable.
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Why don't you format the card from your phone? That way it will definitely be recognizeable.
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That didn't even cross my mind. That worked as easily as you'd expect. I think I'll be restoring it to stock, since I can't figure out the radio thing. With SkyRaider 2.5.2 I tend to have times when 3G just doesn't work at all, and my internet is dead. I'm going to assume that has something to do with the radio upgrade. So I'll just downgrade back to 2.1 and wait it out.
Thanks for all the help guys.
Sorry you had to revert back to stock. Some people claim their radio updates give them better service. Some say less Service... Haha, I have the same service. But anyway, let me know if you wanna try again, skyraider and cm6 are awesome roms, and I'd hate for you to miss out!
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I found a couple great YouTube videos that helped me if you still want to try it. I just rooted for the first time yesterday and I'm loving it.
It won't let me post the link cause I'm new but just search for incredible ota.
There is more to it than just getting into recovery. This guy walks you through it. If you are already rooted there's another file you have to do first PB something.
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Just out of curiosity what would happen if someone deleted the android system from their phone?
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It wouldn't boot
I tried formatting /system from my device. It did not boot and had to be reflashed all over again.
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Captainfrost said:
Just out of curiosity what would happen if someone deleted the android system from their phone?
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Absolutely his device would be empty/useless/junk/piece of crap, call it what you want, but this is what would happen.
why would any one do that??
Gauravpreetsingh said:
why would any one do that??
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HA, my thought exactly!!
What if you Force Stop it. What would happen then ?
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What if you Force Stop it. What would happen then ?
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Most likely your phone would reboot
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You can't force stop it, or uninstall it for that matter. Its a system service, and only the kernel can stop and start it.
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I'm on root
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Ok, so there is a way to delete the android os (i've done it before) it's ok until you reboot.
Then short of flashing your phone using wotan server or flashtool, you have bricked your phone.
Is there a point to removing the android os? No!
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Ok, so there is a way to delete the android os (i've done it before) it's ok until you reboot.
Then short of flashing your phone using wotan server or flashtool, you have bricked your phone.
Is there a point to removing the android os? No!
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no there isn't think about it can you delete windows in windows?
can you delete linux in linux?
can you delete android in android?
can you flash the bios from the bios?
NO NO NO NO although the bios is flashed without needing a OS it isnt flashed from the bios.
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Absolutely his device would be empty/useless/junk/piece of crap, call it what you want, but this is what would happen.
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not really depending on the device you could easily fix it.
fma965 said:
no there isn't think about it can you delete windows in windows?
can you delete linux in linux?
can you delete android in android?
can you flash the bios from the bios?
NO NO NO NO although the bios is flashed without needing a OS it isnt flashed from the bios.
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Actually with Linux, yes, you can (sent you a pm with the code for it ). su is ridiculously powerful.
And if I remember right, can't you call fdisk/format in command prompt and format the disk windows is on while running windows (atleast you could when windows still had a full-fledged DOS installation)
Flashing bios is a little bit different, but I know Asus netbooks have the option to flash an updated Bios in Bios (using a USB drive)
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Captainfrost said:
Just out of curiosity what would happen if someone deleted the android system from their phone?
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What would happen is that you would have an ability to install others opertaing systems (Windows phone - iOS - MeGoo ... etc) instead of android operating systems.
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What would happen is that you would have an ability to install others opertaing systems (Windows phone - iOS - MeGoo ... etc) instead of android operating systems.
For more information, click on the { SOURCE }
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Nope, because the /boot partition would still be intact, and the ramdisk would still try to boot Android (leading you to the splash screen after the boot screen just cycling endlessly)
Edit: actually on the Casio commando, it has a Nice little Verizon logo and "now loading" stuck on it.
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Dream within a dream within a dream...
Hmm why is it that this topic is reminding me of Inception and the dying in a dream argument?
Secondly...why bother deleting Android from the phone when you can customise the thing so much to make it look like any other OS you want, be it Windows, iOS, etc?
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Actually with Linux, yes, you can (sent you a pm with the code for it ). su is ridiculously powerful.
And if I remember right, can't you call fdisk/format in command prompt and format the disk windows is on while running windows (atleast you could when windows still had a full-fledged DOS installation)
Flashing bios is a little bit different, but I know Asus netbooks have the option to flash an updated Bios in Bios (using a USB drive)
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ok well i no **** all about linux other than how to install in on a ps3/360 and original xbox aswell as obviously a computer.
bios most likely isnt flashed from with in a bios as i have a asus motherboard which boots in to a second like bootable memory place thing and then flash the bios. i would say it is dual bios but it cant be since that is patented by gigabyte
tell me the windows command and i will try it
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ok well i no **** all about linux other than how to install in on a ps3/360 and original xbox aswell as obviously a computer.
bios most likely isnt flashed from with in a bios as i have a asus motherboard which boots in to a second like bootable memory place thing and then flash the bios. i would say it is dual bios but it cant be since that is patented by gigabyte
tell me the windows command and i will try it
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Ok, thanks for that info about the Asus mobos, that makes sense.
the windows command are either format or fdisk, but like I said they might not work so well on modern systems (i.e. XP and up, because I don't think they have a full fledged DOS install...)
Out of curiosity, have you ever played around with a rolling release distro? I have arch, and I'm constantly updating the kernel, so while I'm not "deleting Linux" the kernel updates do remove the old one, and replace on boot...
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I remember when someone asked me how to compile CyanogenMod:
I told them (as a joke, they didn't really do it thank god) to do:
sudo su
rm -r /
Of course if they didn't know what this meant, they shouldn't want to know how to compile CM.
Ah, that's what. If I have time I will make a post with instructions on how to compile CM7 for the Play
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Hi,
One year ago, I successfully installed Windows 8 Consumer Preview. Since its asked me for license, I've bought Win8 Pro but the problem is that it won't let me keep my files in the installation. The only option Win8 install shows is the clean install as "nothing".
How to install Win8 Pro with keeping my desktop, files... ?
Thx in advance !
Are you are trying to upgrade from a beta copy of Windows 8 to the final retail version? I don't think that will be an option. You'll need to back up your files to a USB drive or something and do a fresh install.
Yes indeed. Why wont that be possible ?
The consumer preview is an unfinished version of Windows, it's possible issues with that could carry over with an upgrade to the retail version and cause head aches for Microsoft or anyone else that has to troubleshoot any problems that might occur.
I would expect that "keep my files (but not my programs)" would be a valid option, though... very odd if it is not. That's basically still a clean install, it just moves everything from the old OS (except your personal libraries) to a "Windows.old" folder.
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Yes indeed. Why wont that be possible ?
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From what I've read, you will have to do a clean install. Microsoft wants to make sure none of the preview stuff is mixed in with the official release files.
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I would expect that "keep my files (but not my programs)" would be a valid option, though... very odd if it is not. That's basically still a clean install, it just moves everything from the old OS (except your personal libraries) to a "Windows.old" folder.
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Yeah that's true, however I'd like to keep evrything... The only solution is to do the clean install...
Thx everyone !
kinder771 said:
The only option Win8 install shows is the clean install as "nothing".
How to install Win8 Pro with keeping my desktop, files... ?
Thx in advance !
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It is not an option - either clean install or nothing.
Sorry
Yeah I finally did the clean install...
It says I cannot install windows 8.1 because ubuntu doesn't use ntfs partition but ext4. How can I do a clean install of windows 8.1?!
Thanks in advance
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Uh, reformat? The Windows installer can format the partition for you. I actually recommend deleting all the partitions and just having Windows create its own partition scheme in the resulting unallocated space (which it will do automatically if you tell Windows to install to that space).
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Uh, reformat? The Windows installer can format the partition for you. I actually recommend deleting all the partitions and just having Windows create its own partition scheme in the resulting unallocated space (which it will do automatically if you tell Windows to install to that space).
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I cannot click reformat in windows installer. And I have 2partitions: one bootable (297Gb) and one 'logical' (3Gb), what does the logical mean, and is it safe to delete?
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Thatgrass said:
I cannot click reformat in windows installer. And I have 2partitions: one bootable (297Gb) and one 'logical' (3Gb), what does the logical mean, and is it safe to delete?
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I think your partitions show dynamic in status Windows is not install on dynamic partitions so
Backup you date
Delete all partitions and create new partitions use Windows disk then install
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I think your partitions show dynamic in status Windows is not install on dynamic partitions so
Backup you date
Delete all partitions and create new partitions use Windows disk then install
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Is it safe to remove every partition? How can I create a new one, I only have a bootable USB with win 8.1.
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... if you can't figure out how to use the Windows installer partitioning tool, I really can't recommend that you try installing an OS from scratch. It's the most ridiculously-simple tool of it's kind I've ever seen. It has options like Create [Partition], Delete, Resize, and Format. It's graphical and mouse-driven. Even the so-called "Advanced" configuration just shows a few more extremely basic functions.
As I already told you, just deleting all the partitions and then letting the Windows installer set the drive up the way it wants to is possibly the best option. You can get a trivial amount more free space if you tweak the volume sizes, and a separate boot value isn't technically required if you're never going to enable BitLocker on the system, plus there are reasons to use other custom partitioning schemes... but in general, that's just asking for trouble. The defaults are very good. Just use them.
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... if you can't figure out how to use the Windows installer partitioning tool, I really can't recommend that you try installing an OS from scratch. It's the most ridiculously-simple tool of it's kind I've ever seen. It has options like Create [Partition], Delete, Resize, and Format. It's graphical and mouse-driven. Even the so-called "Advanced" configuration just shows a few more extremely basic functions.
As I already told you, just deleting all the partitions and then letting the Windows installer set the drive up the way it wants to is possibly the best option. You can get a trivial amount more free space if you tweak the volume sizes, and a separate boot value isn't technically required if you're never going to enable BitLocker on the system, plus there are reasons to use other custom partitioning schemes... but in general, that's just asking for trouble. The defaults are very good. Just use them.
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Sorry, I'm just scared for crashing my pc, and in the installer, the format button was there, but it was grey:not clickable. So for confirmation, it's safe to delete all partitions? I will still be able to boot from USB and install it?
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Got it! Thanks for your help!
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I'd have been curious to know what the "Show Details" indicated, but it sounds like you got it working anyhow. Glad to hear it!
By the way, booting off USB is determined by the BIOS/EFI. It has nothing to do with the hard disk. You can boot off USB without even having a hard disk installed at all.
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I'd have been curious to know what the "Show Details" indicated, but it sounds like you got it working anyhow. Glad to hear it!
By the way, booting off USB is determined by the BIOS/EFI. It has nothing to do with the hard disk. You can boot off USB without even having a hard disk installed at all.
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Thanks man, couldn't have done it without you!
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