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Exe files on Android?

This might be in another thread. I searched pretty extensively for an answer and can't find one. Is there an app or way to install exe files and run them on my Magic 32B? My phone is rooted and running Cyanogen's 4.2.5 I figured my phone does everything else, why shouldn't it be able to run exe files?

Sorry for the bump. I can access the exe file on my memory card with Linda File manager, but I don't know what the open the file with??? Linda File Manager gives me the option to > Open With... Any ideas?

Android cannot open Windows based files.......

WEAK!
One thing I have learned from xda is that if theres a will theres a way! Comon guys there has gotta be a way!

Android is not windows..
In theory you could port qemu or something and run it in that. But that would be so slow a turtle would think of itself as fast if it saw it
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tvall said:
Android is not windows..
In theory you could port qemu or something and run it in that. But that would be so slow a turtle would think of itself as fast if it saw it
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Agreed. I want to say someone got Wine to install in Android but could never get it to work right.
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The idea is sweet and innocent but is much more complex...
The "exe" files are binaries. The .exe extension is something windows has as a standard for postfix, and is not necessary for running binaries (linux does not use any postfix and therefor also Android).
So what is a binary?
It's a list of machine instructions which the intended cpu understands. Every cpu has it's own instruction set ( a language). You need to make sure that the list of instructions you are running can be understood by the cpu. Inside this list you will find special instructions which is called "system calls". They are not intended for the cpu but for the operation system which you are running on.
So to sum up;
1) to run windows binaries on Android you need to change to instruction set of the binary because the cpu you have is not the same as those running on the Android device. E.g. x86 cpu on computer vs. ARM cpu on mobile devices vs. PIC micro-controllers. So the binary does not speak the same language as the cpu.
2) You need to change the system calls because Windows and Android does not have the same system calls.
So as a final sum up, it's not easy to make those binaries to run on Android, specially those which has a instructions list bigger than 20-30 instructions... They are just to complex and sometimes not even possible!
The WINE project is shot of doing the exact problem. It will run the binaries and translate them on the fly for the operating system. It succeed most times and fail others. But it's a HUGE project and need a normal computer power for it to run. The devices we have right now, does not have the horse power to run such projects.
I hope the info shades some lights on the problem :0)
NB: i know some of the info is not 100% but it's REALLY simplified to give the general idea and complexity of the problem :0)

mumilover said:
The idea is sweet and innocent but is much more complex...
The "exe" files are binaries. The .exe extension is something windows has as a standard for postfix, and is not necessary for running binaries (linux does not use any postfix and therefor also Android).
So what is a binary?
It's a list of machine instructions which the intended cpu understands. Every cpu has it's own instruction set ( a language). You need to make sure that the list of instructions you are running can be understood by the cpu. Inside this list you will find special instructions which is called "system calls". They are not intended for the cpu but for the operation system which you are running on.
So to sum up;
1) to run windows binaries on Android you need to change to instruction set of the binary because the cpu you have is not the same as those running on the Android device. E.g. x86 cpu on computer vs. ARM cpu on mobile devices vs. PIC micro-controllers. So the binary does not speak the same language as the cpu.
2) You need to change the system calls because Windows and Android does not have the same system calls.
So as a final sum up, it's not easy to make those binaries to run on Android, specially those which has a instructions list bigger than 20-30 instructions... They are just to complex and sometimes not even possible!
The WINE project is shot of doing the exact problem. It will run the binaries and translate them on the fly for the operating system. It succeed most times and fail others. But it's a HUGE project and need a normal computer power for it to run. The devices we have right now, does not have the horse power to run such projects.
I hope the info shades some lights on the problem :0)
NB: i know some of the info is not 100% but it's REALLY simplified to give the general idea and complexity of the problem :0)
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Just in addition, most programs aren't just based on the .exe file. DLLs and other files are needed for the program to run, attempting to port all this stuff to Android would most probably result in failing.

K3n H1mur4 said:
Just in addition, most programs aren't just based on the .exe file. DLLs and other files are needed for the program to run, attempting to port all this stuff to Android would most probably result in failing.
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I just hope Android is so popular that, like turning Windows into Linux using Wine (excuse the metaphor or whatever that was), someone might persist with this no doubt huge endeavour. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to never run a Windows app in Windows ever again, nor kowtow to Apple's interface demands even though I'd like something as responsive, integrated and occasionally useful as an iSomething.
Android was my future salvation till my employer handed over a handy Win App recently that I can't really avoid using - well I could, but I'd have to work that much harder - fat chance! So I'm stuck with a Samsung XP netbook and WM6.5 on my HTC Touch HD until someone somewhere, or lots of someones everywhere, do a Wine for Android

Seriously, you want to pretend in some reality somewhere that someone will first create an x86 emulator for an arm chip that barely likes to play xvid files then on top of that use wine to run a mobile windows app rather than just use something similar or pay someone to write you something similar that runs natively on android?
Which do you think is the non-insane option?

you cant run it on android persay but you can download dosbox and run it that way sorry for the bump

work for now
For now install your exe app on a windows PC if you have one. And run something like team viewer. Won't look the best but you'll get basic function out of it.

Thanks for the suggestions (cellsafemode excepted! )
I ended up buying a couple of iPads and have installed VMWare View, ICAB HD and Slashtop/CamCam giving remote access to my Windows PC at home. Gets the job done - bit slower, but the small Windows-only app I need to run infrequently isn't a huge load on the hardware or the network. Saves carting a netbook around for just one small but important task, and I guess it's accomplishing much the same as the Android suggestions above. When my iPad enthusiasm wears off, I'll have an Android option

Found a Way
Ok, I got a way! You need root, and itll be very slow on a phone but faster on a tablet!!
http s : / / play . google. com / store / a pps / de tail s? id = com . galoula.LinuxInstall&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyL DEsImNvbS5nYWx vdWxhLkxpbnV4S W5zdG FsbCJd
1)Download Above Link remove spaces
2)On your new Ubuntu or whatever you chose get wine from winehq
3)Get your exe and presto!!
--DISCLAIMER--
I havent tried it so if it breaks your phone/tablet its not my fault... USE AT OWN RISK

nikhiljha said:
Ok, I got a way! You need root, and itll be very slow on a phone but faster on a tablet!!
http s : / / play . google. com / store / a pps / de tail s? id = com . galoula.LinuxInstall&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyL DEsImNvbS5nYWx vdWxhLkxpbnV4S W5zdG FsbCJd
1)Download Above Link remove spaces
2)On your new Ubuntu or whatever you chose get wine from winehq
3)Get your exe and presto!!
--DISCLAIMER--
I havent tried it so if it breaks your phone/tablet its not my fault... USE AT OWN RISK
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Good luck finding wine compiled for arm and some windows programs built for the (currently nonexistent) arm version of windows

2Noob4U said:
This might be in another thread. I searched pretty extensively for an answer and can't find one. Is there an app or way to install exe files and run them on my Magic 32B? My phone is rooted and running Cyanogen's 4.2.5 I figured my phone does everything else, why shouldn't it be able to run exe files?
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if your mobile does everything else then can you do multitasking just like people do in Nokia N9??

yes its possible ..
ohhh yaaa its possible to install .exe file on any android device ..
just follow these simple steps and you are done :
Step 1
Install a DOSBox app on your Android device. AnDOSBox, aDosBox and DosBox Turbo are three different DOSBox apps available from the Google Play store.
Step 2
Open the DOSBox app.
Step 3
Type "cd \foldername" into the command line, where "foldername" denotes the folder in which your EXE is contained. For example, if your EXE is in the Download folder, type "cd \download."
Step 4
Click Enter on your Android keyboard.
Step 5
Enter the name of the EXE file. You do not need to enter the .exe extension.
Step 6
Tap "Enter" on your Android keyboard.
Tip
The command-line interface is not case-sensitive.

mydevilace said:
ohhh yaaa its possible to install .exe file on any android device ..
just follow these simple steps and you are done
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Excellent! Never say 'Never'!
I also see it's possible to run iOS apps on Android as well.

Wing Nut said:
Excellent! Never say 'Never'!
I also see it's possible to run iOS apps on Android as well.
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yeaaahhhhh
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So this confirms exe files r able to run on Android its just slow . Only thing left to do is find a way to lighten it up some by reduced graphics n bmp files ?

Other OS's/UI's on Dream? (Maemo, Openmoko, Native debian, X11 support, etc)

I didn't think it belonged in Dream Android Development, so I'm putting it here. If it needs to be moved, move it.
Is it possible to boot anything other than Android on the Dream?
I've seen the Nokia N900 and its Maemo 5 firmware, and I'm absolutely drawn to it, thanks to its debian-based OS (sudo apt-get install anything), it's X-based graphics system (REAL linux GUI programs), and all the apps it already has (Native Gizmo > Hacky Sipdroid).
I've also taken a look at other Linux-based open phone firmwares.
What is keeping us from doing this? If it's drivers, do they exist for another similar Linux-based firmware?
Could we dual-boot Android and this other OS using a third-stage bootloader which loads as a kernel from within the BOOT: partition?
I've seen the (albeit extremely hackish) method of getting Debian on the G1, chrooting into a loop-mounted FS and using a loopback VNC to spring into a KDE/Gnome/LXDE UI, but it's slow, still has Android and its apps loaded into memory, and very hackish and unstable.
I'm more than willing to test anything firmware-wise on my phone as long as it doesn't mess with my SPL.
The possibilities are nearly limitless - WINE under Linux means true "Windows Mobile" without the WinCE kernel.
Or perhaps WinMo/WinCE can be booted on the Dream?
It's more of a question of whether or not it's possible right now than a concept or implementation, but once that's answered, I'll either throw some time into testing and porting, or kick back and enjoy the Android as it is.
For starters:
- How does the SPL hand off to the BOOT: partition and its kernel/initrd?
- What devices need what drivers? What should be thrown into the kernel?
- Do things need reverse-engineering or is it all straightforward and documented?
- How can we use the space provided without messing with the SPL? (use cache partition for OS? Modified recovery that doesn't depend on cache partition?)
- Is dual-booting between Android possible? Can this be switched and launched before Dalvik and the Android stuff loads on the Android kernel?
- Can this be done with other Android-powered, rooted devices?

Have you seen wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_on_HTC-Dream or lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-August/052529.html? (Crap, I can't post links) Looks promising since Angstrom is a very powerful embedded distro, but it's a one-man project now. I hope some people will join it or start a similar project.
G1 is a great device, however, I can see only a few people hacking on OS alternatives for it. You always got to have either an active community or a company in order to complete such a project.
The Android hackers community is very vibrant, however, people are not really interested in bringing a fully-featured Linux distro to G1 or other Android phones. Android is too trendy itself
The Debian/Ubuntu opportunity that we have now is nice, but it looks like an addition to the Android which takes a lot of memory and CPU.
I have just set up a small Ubuntu environment booting on my G1 together with Android. I combined the userspace prepared by Paolo Sammicheli (xdatap1.wordpress.com/2009/05/03/jaunty-under-android/) with Bayle Shanks's instructions (bayleshanks.com/wiki.pl?tips-computer-android-g1_debian_cyanogenMod). I am going to use it for mutt, vim, some coding. X11/VNC experience has been frustrating so far.
I am pretty sure though that there will be more people wanting to use alternative OSes on their phones: Moto Droid and Nexus are powerful enough for a full desktop environment.

vaskas said:
Have you seen wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_on_HTC-Dream or lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-August/052529.html? (Crap, I can't post links) Looks promising since Angstrom is a very powerful embedded distro, but it's a one-man project now. I hope some people will join it or start a similar project.
G1 is a great device, however, I can see only a few people hacking on OS alternatives for it. You always got to have either an active community or a company in order to complete such a project.
The Android hackers community is very vibrant, however, people are not really interested in bringing a fully-featured Linux distro to G1 or other Android phones. Android is too trendy itself
The Debian/Ubuntu opportunity that we have now is nice, but it looks like an addition to the Android which takes a lot of memory and CPU.
I have just set up a small Ubuntu environment booting on my G1 together with Android. I combined the userspace prepared by Paolo Sammicheli (xdatap1.wordpress.com/2009/05/03/jaunty-under-android/) with Bayle Shanks's instructions (bayleshanks.com/wiki.pl?tips-computer-android-g1_debian_cyanogenMod). I am going to use it for mutt, vim, some coding. X11/VNC experience has been frustrating so far.
I am pretty sure though that there will be more people wanting to use alternative OSes on their phones: Moto Droid and Nexus are powerful enough for a full desktop environment.
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i really think it lies in what you want from your phone... i know you say you use your ubuntu env for things such as vim and mutt, but everything that vim and mutt can do, can already be done under android..
the biggest challenge is getting people to latch on to an alternate distro which offers MORE than android, which has yet to come to surface... ultimately this is a phone.. not a netbook...and for a phone android is pretty dam sweet...
although in terms of geek work, running ANY other os on non native hardware is cool....albeit not really worth it

anybody were successful by using the internal-memory-image from the openmoko wiki?
I always get kernel panic, when booting it. I flashed it with flash_image boot/system, does this matter? In the wiki they use fastboot.

scheich, I only tried the SD-card way (see my post in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624392)
It shouldn't really matter whether you use fastboot or flash the image. The kernel panic could occur due to the inability to find the root filesystem. Try reflashing the yaffs2.
By the way, why did you choose to put OpenMoko in the internal memory? Are you going to use it exclusively or as the primary OS on the device?

Some of what you suggest can be done, but not recommended.
1) Nokia/Maemo is a bad fit for a phone. It is a real HOG. It is also shoehorning (with a sledge hammer) a desktop OS into a phone. It just doesn't work right. Android exists because a totally new UI model was needed to work optimally with a phone's physical form.
2) WINE will NEVER work since the CPU in the phone is ARM and not x86. If you want to run windonkey programs (can't imagine why you would), you would have to run a PROCESSOR EMULATOR, and this will be REALLY REALLY REALLY slow and memory intense.
TylTru said:
I didn't think it belonged in Dream Android Development, so I'm putting it here. If it needs to be moved, move it.
Is it possible to boot anything other than Android on the Dream?
I've seen the Nokia N900 and its Maemo 5 firmware, and I'm absolutely drawn to it, thanks to its debian-based OS (sudo apt-get install anything), it's X-based graphics system (REAL linux GUI programs), and all the apps it already has (Native Gizmo > Hacky Sipdroid).
I've also taken a look at other Linux-based open phone firmwares.
What is keeping us from doing this? If it's drivers, do they exist for another similar Linux-based firmware?
Could we dual-boot Android and this other OS using a third-stage bootloader which loads as a kernel from within the BOOT: partition?
I've seen the (albeit extremely hackish) method of getting Debian on the G1, chrooting into a loop-mounted FS and using a loopback VNC to spring into a KDE/Gnome/LXDE UI, but it's slow, still has Android and its apps loaded into memory, and very hackish and unstable.
I'm more than willing to test anything firmware-wise on my phone as long as it doesn't mess with my SPL.
The possibilities are nearly limitless - WINE under Linux means true "Windows Mobile" without the WinCE kernel.
Or perhaps WinMo/WinCE can be booted on the Dream?
It's more of a question of whether or not it's possible right now than a concept or implementation, but once that's answered, I'll either throw some time into testing and porting, or kick back and enjoy the Android as it is.
For starters:
- How does the SPL hand off to the BOOT: partition and its kernel/initrd?
- What devices need what drivers? What should be thrown into the kernel?
- Do things need reverse-engineering or is it all straightforward and documented?
- How can we use the space provided without messing with the SPL? (use cache partition for OS? Modified recovery that doesn't depend on cache partition?)
- Is dual-booting between Android possible? Can this be switched and launched before Dalvik and the Android stuff loads on the Android kernel?
- Can this be done with other Android-powered, rooted devices?
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vaskas said:
scheich, I only tried the SD-card way (see my post in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624392)
It shouldn't really matter whether you use fastboot or flash the image. The kernel panic could occur due to the inability to find the root filesystem. Try reflashing the yaffs2.
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Tried reflashing the system image. Also the older image on the ftpserver. The same. I will try the sdcard installation.
vaskas said:
By the way, why did you choose to put OpenMoko in the internal memory? Are you going to use it exclusively or as the primary OS on the device?
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Two reasons:
1. Thought that would be the faster way to get it work. I used BART to backup my android installation.
2. Thougt, I would get a bit more perfomance in using the internal memory.
I really would like to use SHR(or other) as primary OS, because I had an GTA02, depends on what is(could) work(ing) on the dream.

would it be possible to boot ubuntu netbook remix? it uses far less resources.

zenstitution said:
would it be possible to boot ubuntu netbook remix? it uses far less resources.
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NBR is targeted at x86, but Ubuntu MID edition is installable. It's similar to the netbook remix. We'll have to wait before we have a proven/stable installation method though.

I would really like to see another OS on my Dream as well - just in addition to android

Che123 said:
I would really like to see another OS on my Dream as well - just in addition to android
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Well, you can try the OpenMoko port (it's in the alpha stage now): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5521417
The more people get interested in the alternative OS, the sooner we'll get one.

vaskas said:
Well, you can try the OpenMoko port (it's in the alpha stage now): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5521417
The more people get interested in the alternative OS, the sooner we'll get one.
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Really hot stuff - but i don't want to loose my recovery
But i will definetly keep an eye on it!
edit: Adding a bootmngr like grub for selecting boot OS (android/openmoko/recovery) would be really nice Or adding bootoptions to the current amon_ra Recovery would be a soloution too. But I'm no dev, so I don't even know if it is possible.

Worth Rooting Vibrant? (Mac User)

I know it sounds repetitive. I constantly work on computers and use my own at home but all I use is macs! I had a g1 and everything was pretty manageable by flashing zips and metamorph etc, but adb is something I really never needed to learn, and all I hear is how windows users use adb. Are there any setups for mac users? That doesn't involve too much trouble? Thanks, and I'm sure this thread could help any other mac user that is looking into rooting their phone.

You don't have to use adb.. reread the root thread for updated, easier instructions. With it this easy, yes it's worth it.

heygrl said:
You don't have to use adb.. reread the root thread for updated, easier instructions. With it this easy, yes it's worth it.
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no, no. I know you can root it without adb, but it seems like if you want to theme/mod things adb will be a big part of this. Just kind of looking for a savior mac solution that I maybe haven't heard of to accomplish adb.

joe.kerwin said:
no, no. I know you can root it without adb, but it seems like if you want to theme/mod things adb will be a big part of this. Just kind of looking for a savior mac solution that I maybe haven't heard of to accomplish adb.
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No, usually theming/modding requires flashing more .zip files through recovery. ADB is probably most commonly used to push .apk (apps) files to the system that are otherwise uninstallable or more or less built into the system.
Many people with modded phones will never use adb.

I'm also a mac user, this is my first android phone, and my programming knowledge is a high school java class which i took 6 years ago. With that being said I've had no problems learning some of the commands involved with ADB. If you are some what tech savvy and have decent problem solving skills you can work your way around most of it.
As far as setting up my mac, I just downloaded the SDK and was able to use ADB without having to download any drivers like I had read in a lot of guides, but then again most of those are written for windows users. I'm still learning as I go but its pretty interesting and XDA is definitely a good place to start.

Even of you need to use adb for something in the future, adb works fine on a mac. I have been rooting and modding my android phones since the G1 and have always used one of my mac computers. Drivers are not needed and most phones communicate without a problem.
-sent from my T-Mobile Vibrant ; )

Linux Distro dev edition

This distro was created with all the tools needed for android development. After you install this os, you're ready to start developing for Android.
GreenRom Dev Kt is now available. It has Android SDK/NDK, Eclipse, ADB(from any location!), ThemerStudio, all required dependencies for compiling roms, repo init for pulling source code from github, and Gimp for theming/editing graphics.
Q:Why is this important?
A:Because all you need to do is install this OS, plug in your phone, and begin having fun as you dev. There's no need to try and download and install ANYTHING for Android development because it's all been done for you. Do you need to run ADB Logcat? Go ahead. Now there's no need to make sure you're in a certain directory because you can run ADB from anywhere.
Some common questions might be:
Q:Do I have to install GRPdevkit to my HDD?
A:No, you can run it from live mode and store your progress on a pen drive. Alternately, you can install it on a pen/usb drive and run it from that if your bios detects usb drives.
Q:Will I be able to install this alongside another OS?
A:Possibly, although LivLogik and I haven't had any luck with dual booting this nor Ubuntu.
Q:Will this screw up my computer?
A:As with any Linux OS that's experimental, the possibility is there, although LivLogik and I have been testing this OS extensively to ensure all the bugs have been work out before making it available to you. Nevertheless, we are in no way responsible for your actions!
Q:What if I don't want to dev and just want to use this for an every day system?
A:That's quite fine as this OS is built from Linux Mint 11 and has all the stuff you probably use such as Brasero, X-Chat, Transmission, Libre Office, Movie Player, Calculator, Pidgin, G-Thumb, and much more!
Q:What if I can't burn an installation disk?
A:As with the majority of mainstream Linux Distros, we will be offering an installation disk for a small fee + s&h. LivLogik and I have to come up with a design for the cd decal as I have access to a cd printer. We will post the availability when we come up with it.
Q:How do I use the tools that are in this?
A:There is a get started guide on the desktop that you can move to your home folder or delete that explains briefly how to use the tools, however, I didn't include instructions on Eclipse as I've never used it. For Eclipse just go to it's website here: http://eclipsetutorial.sourceforge.net/totalbeginner.html and learn how to use it. Eclipse is used to make programs for Android.
LivLogik will be making a video so that you can see it in action. Enjoy!!
Note: you may need to right click on the desktop and change the wallpaper mode setting from zoom to whatever fits your screen best. -Fixed in update
**EDIT** if you have problems signing in to gtalk on the messanger... go to software manager and in the search box type in gtalk and download that plugin and it should work and if you have problems with anymore accounts like facebook do the same and it should work fine -Fixed in update
CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE VIDEO !!!! (it shows a run through of it and also sorta where everything is and a little how to - livlogik
Video #2 Updates For v1.1
============> grpdevkit.iso - 2.0 GB <============
MIRROR >>>---------------> http://dev-host.org/fj1lh8zu4g60/grpdevkit.iso <-----------------<<<
Code:
[color=green]Change Log: [/color]
(07-22-11 v1.1) :
~Added Chrome Browser
~Added plugin for Gtalk
~Shortcut for SDK/NDK in home folder
~Added shortcut for GRP forum
~Added different wallpaper([color=blue]thanks LivLogik[/color])
(6-?-11 v1) :
~Linux Mint 11(Katya) as Distro base [URL=http://www.linuxmint.com/]Linux Mint11[/URL]
~Remastersys(for building the distro [url]http://remastersys.sourceforge.net/[/url])
~Added GRP custom default wallpaper([color=blue]thanks LivLogik[/color])
~Added Android NDK
~Added Android SDK
~Added all required dependencies for compiling Android OS as follows:
git-core, gnupg, flex bison, gperf, libsdl1.2-dev, libesd0-dev, libwxgtk2.6-dev, squashfs-tools, build-essential zip curl, libncurses5-dev, zlib1g-dev,
sun-java6-jdk, pngcrush, schedtool, lib32z1-dev, lib32ncurses5-dev, lib32readline5-dev
~Added ADB( thanks to Tahl:[URL=http://www.rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?589-Android-SDK-NDK-Eclipse-and-ADB-Auto-Installer-(Ubuntu-Linux-Mint)]Tahl's tread[/URL])
~Added Gimp
~Added ThemerStudio(thanks to CorCor67:[URL=http://corcor67.blogspot.com/p/themer-studio.html]CorCor's blog[/URL])
~Added Repo Init to home directory
[color=red]Testers:[/color]
LivLogik
SlashDW
whoever else has tested or is running the Dev Kit let me know so I can include you in the testers credits. ;-)

epic!? I think so.

Treken said:
This distro was created with all the tools needed for android development. After you install this os, you're ready to start developing for Android. Check it out here: http://greenromproject.com/showthread.php?188-GreenRom-Dev-Kit-is-here!!-64bit(updated-7-23-11)
And, of course, enjoy!
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Nice! This should save a ton of setup time when I install a new distro
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AWESOME! Finally, I can run Linux simply. Expect ROM's from me!

EASY Set-up! Now to figure out how to do everything else..... :/

Smokeey said:
EASY Set-up! Now to figure out how to do everything else..... :/
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If you need some help with anything just let me know.

Wow. downloaded.

vassskk said:
Wow. downloaded.
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how was the download speed? The server will be getting a make-over tomorrow and should beef up the download speed.

I'm assuming I can make this into a persistent usb and take it anywhere and work on it? Regardless I'm going to give it a shot.

DL started at 700 and dropped 1kB/s every 2 seconds continuously, then dropped out. I thought it was an artifact of the averaging done by Google Chrome; except it was linear, 2 seconds every time.

bogwurm said:
I'm assuming I can make this into a persistent usb and take it anywhere and work on it? Regardless I'm going to give it a shot.
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Please see #2
Q: Do I have to install GRPdevkit to my HDD?
A: No, you can run it from live mode and store your progress on a pen drive. Alternately, you can install it on a pen/usb drive and run it from that if your bios detects usb drives.

vassskk said:
Please see #2
Q: Do I have to install GRPdevkit to my HDD?
A: No, you can run it from live mode and store your progress on a pen drive. Alternately, you can install it on a pen/usb drive and run it from that if your bios detects usb drives.
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And boom goes the dynamite
/Dinc

Very nice work. Thanks for this.
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vassskk said:
DL started at 700 and dropped 1kB/s every 2 seconds continuously, then dropped out. I thought it was an artifact of the averaging done by Google Chrome; except it was linear, 2 seconds every time.
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The server went down for a little bit. They beefed up the server speeds so it should download faster now. It should be up and running now

Great.. now I have to stop & get more DVDs. My old laptop doesn't boot from usb. Looking forward to trying it out. Thanks!

OP,
You said you were having trouble paralleling it with other os's? Any ideas why? i was very much hoping to throw it alongside joulicloud (ubuntu based) on my ssd.

vassskk said:
OP,
You said you were having trouble paralleling it with other os's? Any ideas why? i was very much hoping to throw it alongside joulicloud (ubuntu based) on my ssd.
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I wasn't having any luck dual booting Linux Mint or Ubuntu. I have Windows 7 Ultra that I wanted to dual boot but couldn't get it worked out and just gave up since I have to have Linux for most of the development I do.

beard0 said:
And boom goes the dynamite
/Dinc
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Dino-mite? Faq said run live and store on usb. Assumption was run live from dvd. Second part of answer was run from usb if BIOS allowed it. That's why I assumed I could run a live usb with a dedicated partition on the same usb. If we didn't have questions then we wouldn't have Devs. But thanx for your input Mr Dynamite.

bogwurm said:
Dino-mite? Faq said run live and store on usb. Assumption was run live from dvd. Second part of answer was run from usb if BIOS allowed it. That's why I assumed I could run a live usb with a dedicated partition on the same usb. If we didn't have questions then we wouldn't have Devs. But thanx for your input Mr Dynamite.
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You should be able to install on a usb pen drive and save your files on a dedicated partition. Just make sure you have enough room on your pen drive. Look here: Link and see the requirements for doing so. I've never actually installed on a pen drive myself but theoretically speaking it's plausible. Let me know if it works out for you.

Will do thanx for the reply. I know how to set up a persistent live distro but some of them are tricky. I like this idea because all I need is the flash drive to do work on any computer.
"Here and now, boys, here and now."-Aldous Huxley

Yoga Tablet 2 Pro, how do we enter BIOS and/or disable secure boot.

I've been trying different ways of entering bios and/or disabling secure boot, but can't figure out exactly if it has a BIOS menu at all.
Connected a keyboard to it and tries different keys during boot but I can't find the right combination.
Does anyone know how to enter the BIOS menu, or how do we go about disabling secure boot?
Thank you,

cocacola2015 said:
I've been trying different ways of entering bios and/or disabling secure boot, but can't figure out exactly if it has a BIOS menu at all.
Connected a keyboard to it and tries different keys during boot but I can't find the right combination.
Does anyone know how to enter the BIOS menu, or how do we go about disabling secure boot?
Thank you,
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Keyboard is disabled(no driver installed, thanks Lenovo). Bios is usless.
From my LG-G4, Rooted running Stock 5.1

I was afraid that this would be the case. There seems to be no way to circumvent it either to boot a linux kernel.
http ://i.imgur.com/Tfd9U3i.jpg
Am I right to assume that the only thing we have that are signed are the stock Lenovo Yoga kernels, making them the only thing we can boot?
Also, does anyone know if these are the Microsoft keys, or some Lenovo keys, that they use for secure-boot. http ://i.imgur.com/dm1i16B.jpg
I'm wondering, because linux grub distributions do have a signed grub "shim" with the Microsoft key, maybe making us able to execute that at boot.

Ok, I've found out that it does have the microsoft keys, among other keys, which means it should in theory be possible, in theory. Will be looking into this more.

cocacola2015 said:
I was afraid that this would be the case. There seems to be no way to circumvent it either to boot a linux kernel.
http ://i.imgur.com/Tfd9U3i.jpg
Am I right to assume that the only thing we have that are signed are the stock Lenovo Yoga kernels, making them the only thing we can boot?
Also, does anyone know if these are the Microsoft keys, or some Lenovo keys, that they use for secure-boot. http ://i.imgur.com/dm1i16B.jpg
I'm wondering, because linux grub distributions do have a signed grub "shim" with the Microsoft key, maybe making us able to execute that at boot.
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actually the problem is not in the unlocking but in making a working kernel for this tablet... because you see... Lenovo released the "source code" so they won't risk being sued for breaking the opensource (kernel) licenses, yet what they released is crap, broken drivers (i had to download all the source packages from all the YT2 models because they didn't even un-tarred crap and each one was 400MB and move things around and still it wont do the job as it should) they intentionally crippled the mk files, removed others, stupid and not working configs and so on... driver files missing... you get the picture and this was intentionally (not to say that this is only the kernel, not a chance to see in their source whats even more interesting: the code for the libraries, binaries etc) i am not saying it cannot be done but the amount of work it requires... hmm does it justify? in the end there are few people on this tablets and even lesser with the knowledge/available time to try and do something that will look like a custom rom
i thought at some point in making a rom but the hassle and time required don't justify it (what would i have? except that it's trendy to have a costom rom) so i for one will stay on my Android+Linux combo but who want to go further has my help
a better approach would be to build a custom rom based on the stock kernel/initramfs, this way you will start having the drivers in order and do your custom system (while no longer used in these days still it was cyanogenmod's way of making custom roms in the past) yet this one too is difficult and requires lots of work (and again for what? what's the gain?) but this one is much more acceptable than the rebuilding all previous one
the secure boot is passed (pm and you will understand) but to what end? see... the problem isn't so much in opening the door but in what you will do once inside (and i am inside that room for some time now yet no better bed than my Linux+Android combo) but feel free to continue on the road..
this is not to discourage you but to warn you about issues others (me) had on the road you're stepping now.

Thank you for the reply.
You're right, going the route of compiling whatever Lenovo has put out, is not the most streight forward option, but I disagree on not putting Linux on this tablet. This is the biggest and highest resolution tablet I've seen, and having Android on it instead of a full-blown Linux distribution, is a waste. Things like X forwarding to use it as a thin clinet, does not work well, I've tried all options. The only viable thing for using this as a thin client, is to run Linux on it, with its native input methods on the display server.
The gain is not having to pay twice as much for a Microsoft Surface tablet to install linux on, with it even being lower resolution and smaller screen.

well in this area @workdowg can give you more details as he is the one who loves X on this tab me i'm more like an Y type (aka windows gui/y) (i am happy with my openvpn and sshd) but again consider the unlocking part done and start collecting stuff for making your kernel

ionioni said:
well in this area @workdowg can give you more details as he is the one who loves X on this tab me i'm more like an Y type (aka windows gui/y) (i am happy with my openvpn and sshd) but again consider the unlocking part done and start collecting stuff for making your kernel
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Very exciting. Need to boot a compatible kernel with the provided drivers, as you also suggested, and eventually get a full fedora distribution up and running.
Since this is an x86 tablet, no cross-compilation will be needed so it will allow for more flexibility with getting tools into initramfs to make it bootstrap systemd, and eventually run a full distribution from the system partition.
Would be very interested if workdowg can also provide some input on the issue.

cocacola2015 said:
Thank you for the reply.
You're right, going the route of compiling whatever Lenovo has put out, is not the most streight forward option, but I disagree on not putting Linux on this tablet. This is the biggest and highest resolution tablet I've seen, and having Android on it instead of a full-blown Linux distribution, is a waste. Things like X forwarding to use it as a thin clinet, does not work well, I've tried all options. The only viable thing for using this as a thin client, is to run Linux on it, with its native input methods on the display server.
The gain is not having to pay twice as much for a Microsoft Surface tablet to install linux on, with it even being lower resolution and smaller screen.
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as short as it was yet i still read it on fast-forward
i wasn't saying to not put linux on it (i have linux on mine too) i'm saying that putting ONLY linux was not worth (for my needs) the work required for (maybe i was too subtle ) i mean even if i had a full linux distro solution for my 1380 tablet i would still go for my current Android on Linux set-up that i have. yet, each has his own needs
oh boy it's getting late

cocacola2015 said:
Very exciting. Need to boot a compatible kernel with the provided drivers, as you also suggested, and eventually get a full fedora distribution up and running.
Since this is an x86 tablet, no cross-compilation will be needed so it will allow for more flexibility with getting tools into initramfs to make it bootstrap systemd, and eventually run a full distribution from the system partition.
Would be very interested if workdowg can also provide some input on the issue.
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ionioni said:
as short as it was yet i still read it on fast-forward
i wasn't saying to not put linux on it (i have linux on mine too) i'm saying that putting ONLY linux was not worth (for my needs) the (huge)work required for (maybe i was too subtle ) i mean even if i had a full linux distro solution for my 1380 tablet i would still go for my current Android on Linux set-up that i have. yet, each has his own needs
oh boy it's getting late
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I purchased my tablet with intention of dual booting Linux and Android and eventually going with Linux alone (being x86 I thought this would be a piece of cake). Now after getting Linux running (with Android in a chroot).... My vision has changed. TTY Linux is great, I have so much I can get done when not home. Using Xsdl, X runs well enough ( I had wine installed to run a Windows app) and I don't think it would be all that much better on the framebuffer.
The problem ends up being.... (and it has been stated before).... Touch still sucks on a small screen! Android just excels at it. So for me, if someone were to develop kexecboot or such I would definitely play with it (proof of concept) but I'm positive I'd go right back to my current setup.... ssh and the Xsdl for X as needed are perfect.

ionioni said:
as short as it was yet i still read it on fast-forward
i wasn't saying to not put linux on it (i have linux on mine too) i'm saying that putting ONLY linux was not worth (for my needs) the work required for (maybe i was too subtle ) i mean even if i had a full linux distro solution for my 1380 tablet i would still go for my current Android on Linux set-up that i have. yet, each has his own needs
oh boy it's getting late
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Oh I see. The highest priority for me at least, is to get any linux distribution to boot.
workdowg said:
I purchased my tablet with intention of dual booting Linux and Android and eventually going with Linux alone (being x86 I thought this would be a piece of cake). Now after getting Linux running (with Android in a chroot).... My vision has changed. TTY Linux is great, I have so much I can get done when not home. Using Xsdl, X runs well enough ( I had wine installed to run a Windows app) and I don't think it would be all that much better on the framebuffer.
The problem ends up being.... (and it has been stated before).... Touch still sucks on a small screen! Android just excels at it. So for me, if someone were to develop kexecboot or such I would definitely play with it (proof of concept) but I'm positive I'd go right back to my current setup.... ssh and the Xsdl for X as needed are perfect.
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Touch will probably work better on the larger screens, I've got the 13inch one.
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So I got the latest kernel from kernel.org to boot but I'm not sure why it doesn't find the initramfs, I assume it has to do with it not existing on a partition, but being built into the boot.img.
http://i.imgur.com/IxdwXre.jpg
I'm trying to make it boot a live OS directly from USB, without initramfs. It's a bit difficult because I don't know how the block devices are named, maybe if anyone knows the kernel command line for booting the live linux using the custom kernel, using sdhci or normal usb.
Basically, instead of the normal LiveUSB sequence:
grub from USB -> kernel from USB -> root filesystem from USB
I want
custom kernel with android boot.img -> root file system from USB/SD card

cocacola2015 said:
I want
custom kernel with android boot.img -> root file system from USB/SD card
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there's something wrong with your boot.img, and from the image there not enogh info
link the boot.img you make

ionioni said:
there's something wrong with your boot.img, and from the image there not enogh info
link the boot.img you make
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What's wrong is you need the root= kernel argument, and I'm not sure how the block devices are named (For example, it doesn't have /dev/block/ like on the android kernels). The initramfs isn't modified yet, it's a custom compiled kernel with the source at kernel.org.
Created a boot.img that one can add root= kernel arguments to, to test booting from other media:
https://anonfiles.com/file/177753c2344c3c64c200cdb3803236bd
It has these kernel command line arguments built into the kernel:
Code:
oops=panic panic=360 vmalloc=172M debug_locks=0 bootboost=1 vga=ask i915.modeset=0 drm.vblankoffdelay=1 selinux=0 nomodeset ro debug noinitrd

Another one with UHCI (USB2.0) driver, instead of xHCI (USB3.0), because it might not reach init sometimes otherwise when plugged in, for some reason.
https://anonfiles.com/file/d41f495d118ab1e5ccef961baeb1bcce
No command line arguments built into the kernel, all in boot.img, boot_delay= disabled
Code:
oops=panic panic=360 vmalloc=172M debug_locks=0 bootboost=1 vga=ask i915.modeset=0 drm.vblankoffdelay=1 selinux=0 nomodeset ro debug noinitrd root=/dev/mmcblk0