Is there any cell phone network that doesn't have the 5 gig Cap. I am not too happy about t mobile capping my phone. And slowing down my phone substantially after I go over my 5 gig limit
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even if u unlock the phone, it wont work on other providers. or the 3g/4g wont anyway. u can get unlimited edge on other networks im sure, if thats your thing.
Here's what I'm wondering. I have 2 plans. An original plan that I got with my black berry and I got the 30 dollar web plan. I then upgraded to the g1 and used the same data plan and still have this data plan. Now I started another line to get my g2. That one I signed up as a data only plan cus I don't need 2 phone lines just wanted a g2 and had no upgrade. Now the onlyy data plan that I could use to sign up my g2 was like 50 dpllars amonth and is on the new 4g network. Well I took my first sim that has my original data plan for my blackberry and put it in my g2. Now this data plan does not use the 4g network cus I only get h no h+ on my g2 I then called customer service and was told I need to upgrade my data plan to the new android one to get 4g internet speeds. Well I've gone well over 5 gigs with my original plan from tethering to tether xbox live mw2 to downloading 2g torrents on my phone that are movies. And never been throtttled. So is it only the new android 50 dollar amonth data plan that gets throttled. So I'm tempted not to upgrade id rather have a 3g all monthe then be throttled to edge
Every broadband provider does this throtle ****. Such as comcast and att
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Here's what I'm wondering. I have 2 plans. An original plan that I got with my black berry and I got the 30 dollar web plan. I then upgraded to the g1 and used the same data plan and still have this data plan. Now I started another line to get my g2. That one I signed up as a data only plan cus I don't need 2 phone lines just wanted a g2 and had no upgrade. Now the onlyy data plan that I could use to sign up my g2 was like 50 dpllars amonth and is on the new 4g network. Well I took my first sim that has my original data plan for my blackberry and put it in my g2. Now this data plan does not use the 4g network cus I only get h no h+ on my g2 I then called customer service and was told I need to upgrade my data plan to the new android one to get 4g internet speeds. Well I've gone well over 5 gigs with my original plan from tethering to tether xbox live mw2 to downloading 2g torrents on my phone that are movies. And never been throtttled. So is it only the new android 50 dollar amonth data plan that gets throttled. So I'm tempted not to upgrade id rather have a 3g all monthe then be throttled to edge
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WHAT? you post doesnt make much sense and comes off kinda dumb.
G2 doesnt have a h+ icon. H is for 3g and 4g signal.
Second, If you had a data plan before the g2 came out then you will have a 10gb cap.
If you added or upgraded a data plan after the g2 came out then you will have a 5gb cap.
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To the op there isnt any networks in the USA that doesnt have a soft or hard cap.
Plus as already stated the phone will only work with tmobile 3g/4g
So I called T-Mobile today because they have promotional 4G rate plans right now. And I gave T-Mobile my IEMI number and according to their systems the nexus one qualify for the upgrade to their 4G network. I upgraded to it for an additional $5 dollars a month. Now to my knowledge the nexus one was not built to handle 4G band speeds but I did notice a major speed boost on my device. Maybe not a full 4G experience but definitely feels like my 3G is on steroids. Btw I'm on the EVEN MORE PLUS PLAN.
That would be awesome...I thought you would need a new radio to get it. What radio version are you using? Anyhow, do post up some Speedtest results!
i was wondering about this because HSPA+ is just a newer version of what Tmo 3G phones use, afaik there is no change in the bands they use to communicate and it really should just be as simple as flashing a new radio to a phone to get it to be HSPA+ (aka 3.5G aka T-mobile 4G)
now i doubt that a provider will be willing to update their current phones because they want you to buy a new phone that is "for their 4G" network. its possible though that the Korean radios that have leaked may have this support in them and might explain why your seeing a speed increase.
something else you can do is go into settings>about phone>status> check mobile network type to see if it says HSDPA or HSPA+
there is also another more advanced screen that you can check but i forgot the silly #*#* code you put into access it but i know if you install the app anycut you can make a shortcut to the screen as well
with anycut just make a shortcut for "phone info" to pull up the more advanced screen.
I'm getting 2.87MBps down, and 1.30MBps up. And no I didn't do any radio update. I just told the T-Mobile I wanna switch over to 4G and they said ok and switched me over for an extra five dollars a month.
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look @ my sig, no 4G and i got better speeds
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I'm getting 2.87MBps down, and 1.30MBps up. And no I didn't do any radio update. I just told the T-Mobile I wanna switch over to 4G and they said ok and switched me over for an extra five dollars a month.
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that's not HSPA+ speeds, HSPA+ speed varies from the same as HSDPA to twice as fast.
http://www.tested.com/forums/phones/4/tested-t-mobiles-hspa-network-vs-traditional-3g/3943/
in this test the N1 maxed out at 2.41MBit down and the G2 never went under 3.32Mbit down and topped out at 8.16Mbit down.
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look @ my sig, no 4G and i got better speeds
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that is very good for 3G but uncommon and probably about as fast as you will ever see on HSDPA.
here in the east SF Bay area i usually get about 1.0 Mbit down on my N1 on T-mobile but the speed i see varies and depends highly on local network traffic and what my signal strength is at
Keep in mind that I'm in the subberbs
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Check the specs, n1 will only Max at 7.2 dl 2.0 ul, anything higher is bull
http://www.htc.com/www/product/nexusone/specification.html
N1 here and I had the original data plan that cost 24.99/mo. Old family plan I had for ages since I had the SE Xperia X1, which I still have but do not use .
I have the 3G+ speeds ever since I started using the CM roms, but I never "upgraded" the data plan for faster speed.
How much were you paying beforehand if I may ask? And was it a data plan as well?
I don't think the Nexus can handle the same speeds as the G2 or the new Mytouch 4G.
At work someone has the Mytouch 4G and we did speed test with both phone, mine is on the latest Korean radio and he's download speed was always double than my Nexus.
So again I don't think is possible.
Never claimed to be on HSPA+
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Never claimed to be on HSPA+
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I didn't implied you lie, what I say is they are wrong, and it's sad because I'd love to have 4G in the nexus.
I dont really understand 3g and 4g speeds, but isnt the latency more important? I dont think 3mb vs 10mb will make a huge difference on a phone, it doesnt on my desktop connection, but isnt the biggest hurdle the time to actually get the network to connect to the internet? From what i have noticed, the first website you access takes alot longer than the subsequent sites.
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I dont really understand 3g and 4g speeds, but isnt the latency more important? I dont think 3mb vs 10mb will make a huge difference on a phone, it doesnt on my desktop connection, but isnt the biggest hurdle the time to actually get the network to connect to the internet? From what i have noticed, the first website you access takes alot longer than the subsequent sites.
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Depends on your usage...if you download files, then speed DOES matter, MUCH more than latency. If you simply browse, you do need a MINIMUM speed, but then latency is mucchhhh more important. I would consider 5mb a minimum speed for good browsing.
On computers, you CAN use faster speeds to access the pages faster by using pipelining...dun think phones have support for that though
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So I called T-Mobile today because they have promotional 4G rate plans right now. And I gave T-Mobile my IEMI number and according to their systems the nexus one qualify for the upgrade to their 4G network. I upgraded to it for an additional $5 dollars a month. Now to my knowledge the nexus one was not built to handle 4G band speeds but I did notice a major speed boost on my device. Maybe not a full 4G experience but definitely feels like my 3G is on steroids. Btw I'm on the EVEN MORE PLUS PLAN.
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Call them back and get back on the $20 preferred Android Internet plan. They misinformed you. The data plan you are on does not determine the data speed you see. There are a ton of people on HowardForums with old grandfathered $5.99 T-Zones plans and $9.99 web2go data plans getting faster speeds then what you are seeing.
You are wasting your money with any plan more expensive then the $20 preferred Android Internet plan and if you can get on a cheaper one it will work exactly the same.
It's very possible that T-mobile is throttling accounts now that they can offer faster overall speeds.
It could be a (****ty-consumer wise) way to exploit the 4g (mis)nomer.
I can tell you this I am a T-mobile RSA and I am not sure what the extra $5 amonth the guy did but there is no 4g data plan. Every Android data plan i use in the store is the same plan I give ppl on every android phone T-Mobile sells. There is no 3G or 4G plan. Every plan is the same unless you are looking at the 200mb, 2gb, unlimited plan. I would say call 611 and tell them to change it back and run speed test again. T-Mobile in the soon to be future is moving to a 3 tier data plan. By this I mean they are going to let you pick a 200mb, 2gb, and unlimited data rate plan. Every plan is going to have the same speeds but limit you to what you can download before you are throttled or start to see overages. Call and get your money back.
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I can tell you this I am a T-mobile RSA and I am not sure what the extra $5 amonth the guy did but there is no 4g data plan. Every Android data plan i use in the store is the same plan I give ppl on every android phone T-Mobile sells. There is no 3G or 4G plan. Every plan is the same unless you are looking at the 200mb, 2gb, unlimited plan. I would say call 611 and tell them to change it back and run speed test again. T-Mobile in the soon to be future is moving to a 3 tier data plan. By this I mean they are going to let you pick a 200mb, 2gb, and unlimited data rate plan. Every plan is going to have the same speeds but limit you to what you can download before you are throttled or start to see overages. Call and get your money back.
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Same thing he said. I'm a TMobile CSR and whoever you were speaking with was trying to get a 5.00 bump on there add ons. No difference between EDGE data plans/3G data plan/4G(HSPA+) data plans. People that use the Iphone on our network pay the same 25 or 30 that people do that have 3G devices.
OP is a car salesman dream customer. "Would you like extended warranty?"
I'm in canada on rogers "hsdpa+, hspa, 4g, etc" and at peak hours I get 2.95 down and 1.2 up and have had up to 5.65 down 1.4 up
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I have "unlimited" data on my 3G HTC Rhodium. And I have used it - I think I peaked at 250GB one month I was using it as a modem. To my understanding, I am currently "grandfathered" into this service level and if I upgarde my device through AT&T, I will be forced to take a new data plan. Of course, they have 4G and 3G data plans.
Do the 3G data plans cap or nerf the data speeds on a 4G capable device? ...or is this just marketing trickery to hose "4G" phone owners?
Since AT&T's 4G isn't really "4G" and uses HSPA as does the 3G on my Rhodium, how is this limited on the handset side?
My thought was to eBay myself a Atrix 4G and just drop my SIM therein and not have to worry about account settings or contracts. Will I be stuck with "3G" speeds?
Obviously, I know to get 4G I need a 4G radio (check - Atrix) and 4G network availability (check - AT&T covergae map), too. So, is the account type a limiting factor?
They will not take your unlimited data away. I too had the Tilt 2. I moved to iphone 4 where they grandfathered me into the unlimited iphone plan. Than when I moved from iphone to Atrix they grandfathered me into the 4G unlimited plan.
You can try using your current 3G card on your Atrix but depending on who you speak to they will tell you should get the 4G sim.
You don't need to change your SIM card if it is the 3G card with the fireball on it. Anything older needs to be updated.
Also, they may absolutely take your unlimited away from you. They automatically did this to me, and put me on the 2G plan when I came off my iPhone to the Atrix. I got it added back after a phone call. Make sure to check you are changed to smartphone unlimited and don't take it for granted you are still on unlimited.
If I order this will I get HSPA+ speeds on the device? If not, what's the point of spending 700 bucks and only getting to use 3G speeds?
This would be my only drawback from getting this phone
On a 4G+ plan AND with help setting you up with a 4G+ imei (my phone is on a skyrocket imei)....you'll get hspa+ speeds. You won't on GoPhone even if you get a 4G sim card.
I have a Note on AT&T and get the same speeds as I did on my GS2, which is 6 down on average in my area. The HSPA + speeds are not effected on the Note for AT&T, only on Tmobile you will get 2G/EDGE speeds because of their baseband.
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On a 4G+ plan AND with help setting you up with a 4G+ imei (my phone is on a skyrocket imei)....you'll get hspa+ speeds. You won't on GoPhone even if you get a 4G sim card.
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Ok, right now I'm on the iPhone 4S so I have a data plan. My local AT&T said they would give me a SIM card. So if I order the Note, get the SIM, and change some settings (I'm assuming you know these setting I need to change) I will get 4G (HSPA+) speeds?
EDIT: getting a 4G imei is what I meant (how do I get one so I can get 4G speed)
I have a Note on AT&T. Had to get the correct APN's in there (find the thread with them). With a 4G SIM and data plan, fastest speed test result I have gotten is 11MBps down and 1.1up. Average is 3-5MBps down and 1Mbps up. Usually shows H+ icon so we'r'e good there! You also have to play around with what modem works best in your area. I am using the KK5 modem and battery life is amazing but initial connectivity is a tad laggy in some areas of SoCal.
I just got my Nexus 4 today. I currently have the 4g LTE unlimited grandfathered plan (previously was on a One X). I'm using the second set of APN settings in this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1851128).
However, I'm unable to top 0.31Mbps down and 0.94Mbps up. These speeds are terribly slow compared to the HSPA+ speeds I was getting on my One X. I already called AT&T and I'm still on my 4G unlimited plan, so I wasn't downgraded or anything...
Any ideas?
EDIT: Also, I'm not currently receiving MMS's.
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I just got my Nexus 4 today. I currently have the 4g LTE unlimited grandfathered plan (previously was on a One X). I'm using the second set of APN settings in this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1851128).
However, I'm unable to top 0.31Mbps down and 0.94Mbps up. These speeds are terribly slow compared to the HSPA+ speeds I was getting on my One X. I already called AT&T and I'm still on my 4G unlimited plan, so I wasn't downgraded or anything...
Any ideas?
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I'm guessing you should call AT&T and tell them to reset your data or something. Same thing happened with me on straight talk and I couldn't pass 0.25 Mbps until I called them and ask them to reset my data and now I'm good.
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