If I order this will I get HSPA+ speeds on the device? If not, what's the point of spending 700 bucks and only getting to use 3G speeds?
This would be my only drawback from getting this phone
On a 4G+ plan AND with help setting you up with a 4G+ imei (my phone is on a skyrocket imei)....you'll get hspa+ speeds. You won't on GoPhone even if you get a 4G sim card.
I have a Note on AT&T and get the same speeds as I did on my GS2, which is 6 down on average in my area. The HSPA + speeds are not effected on the Note for AT&T, only on Tmobile you will get 2G/EDGE speeds because of their baseband.
rockky said:
On a 4G+ plan AND with help setting you up with a 4G+ imei (my phone is on a skyrocket imei)....you'll get hspa+ speeds. You won't on GoPhone even if you get a 4G sim card.
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Ok, right now I'm on the iPhone 4S so I have a data plan. My local AT&T said they would give me a SIM card. So if I order the Note, get the SIM, and change some settings (I'm assuming you know these setting I need to change) I will get 4G (HSPA+) speeds?
EDIT: getting a 4G imei is what I meant (how do I get one so I can get 4G speed)
I have a Note on AT&T. Had to get the correct APN's in there (find the thread with them). With a 4G SIM and data plan, fastest speed test result I have gotten is 11MBps down and 1.1up. Average is 3-5MBps down and 1Mbps up. Usually shows H+ icon so we'r'e good there! You also have to play around with what modem works best in your area. I am using the KK5 modem and battery life is amazing but initial connectivity is a tad laggy in some areas of SoCal.
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As most using GS2 on Att the data speeds are poor.
I have mine on Att $50 prepaid unlimited all, using an infuse Imei.
Data speeds are still poor (avg 12-1500kbps).
ANY phone on Att "4G" performs poorly.
So, what I did (initially as a temporary measure) was get a Sprint MiFi portable hotspot ($35mo), carry with me and run off their 4G. (My work has me on the move around the chicago area...it's worth it).
I can tell you, data absolutely FLIES...(significantly better than the Evo 4g btw, as your at the mercy of tower positioning. The Evo on the Mifi performs way better also).
In the 10days I've had it, I've NEVER gone to 3G.
I'm considering just sticking with this arrangement when SGS2 breaks here if the phone's are dumbed down in any way. Good thing is the data reports to Att are virtually Zero on my dumbphone plan at 6-8M's/mo.....as I have unlimited data on Sprint.
So yeah its $85mo total for me.
SO, for those who really prioritize network speed (and why tether this brilliant device to a 3rd rate network), you might consider trying it for 30days. Don't need a current Sprint account.
Makes unlimited surfing and tethering movies etc fun again!
(suggestion tho if you do: have an extra phone and MiFi battery, and wall charger!).
I agree that the 4G speeds are not much faster than good 3G, no matter which settings are tried. Glad to know Sprint is fast, the competition is sure to cause AT&T to increase their speeds to keep up.
That being said, you may want to rename this thread. I was expecting some new method to improve AT&T speeds when I clicked it. Something like "AT&T is hopelessly slow, tether with Sprint instead" would make more sense.
For me, I can't be bothered to carry a MiFi with me at all times and pay another company money each month. I'll just do the best I can with AT&T and hope they improve the HSPA+ speeds in my area. I get between 1 and 2.5 mbps just about anywhere so its not unbearable. The real killer is the slowness to switch from 3G to H+ every time I try to use the data connection...
Ah, your right about title.
I guess it's method to obtain fast speeds while on Att!
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I get between 1 and 2.5 mbps just about anywhere so its not unbearable. The real killer is the slowness to switch from 3G to H+ every time I try to use the data connection...
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It's sounds like something's wrong with your settings or SIM. I live in a 3G area and pull between 2-3MB down. When I'm traveling in a HSPA+ area I get between 4-8MB down. I'm on a post-paid data for non-Smartphones plan. I actually do the opposite of the OP. I use my SGS2 to tether my tablet and download and watch Hulu with no stuttering.
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It's sounds like something's wrong with your settings or SIM. I live in a 3G area and pull between 2-3MB down. When I'm traveling in a HSPA+ area I get between 4-8MB down. I'm on a post-paid data for non-Smartphones plan. I actually do the opposite of the OP. I use my SGS2 to tether my tablet and download and watch Hulu with no stuttering.
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I got similar speeds on my old Captivate (although it was HSPA, not HSPA+). Friends of mine with the Inspire get the same speeds as well. I think its the area. I live in Central New Jersey and according to PCMag's mobile network speed test, this area is about the worst there is for AT&T speeds:
http://www.pcmag.com/Fastest-Mobile-Networks-2011
What area's are you getting between 4-8 in? Have you ever tried in New Jersey?
I've got 2-4kbps.....but it's rare. It's usually 12-15 give or take. Also, ping time on Att seems really slow, usually double the time of Evo.
I've tried new sim twice.
2nd time went to an Att guy I know personally, showed him the SGS2 (normally I wouldn't cause they'd take it to the computer and not allow it on dumbphone plan)....he made some adjustment in the system for me gave me a new sim card....and results were the same.
Speedtest doesn't reflect real world results anyway.
Take a site....say crackberry.com....at its 4bar best Att will download the whole site in 35-40 sec. MiFi is consistently will do it at 15sec.
It's always about 3 times faster. For a guy who needs data on the go, that's big.
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It's sounds like something's wrong with your settings or SIM. I live in a 3G area and pull between 2-3MB down. When I'm traveling in a HSPA+ area I get between 4-8MB down. I'm on a post-paid data for non-Smartphones plan. I actually do the opposite of the OP. I use my SGS2 to tether my tablet and download and watch Hulu with no stuttering.
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I'm in Los Angeles and my speeds are generally between 5-8MB/down. Recent trip to NYC yielded similar numbers.
Hey guys, I have the galaxy note and am in freaking LOVE with it, best $700 Ive spent (excluding that time with Babmi, but i digress)..anyway....I bought a real 4g ATT monthly plan for like $70/month with employee discount...i put the SIM in and had to manually put in the APN to get data. Ive tried a couple of different APN and the DL speeds range from crap to like 6-7MBS ON THE SAME APN, like its totally random. My Q is, are the APN 'all or nothing?'...meaning if the APN works is it fully functional, full H+ speeds etc, or are some of the APN 'limited' in their speed? Hope the Q makes sense, thanks in advance.
i would check at&t's 4 g map to make sure you are in the dark blue zone to help determine what speeds you should be getting. i am actually coded for a 4g plan with them but since i am not in a 4g area the best i csn do is around 3mbs.
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There are only two apn settings for AT&T. Right now they both give the same service, but it's possible that in the future they'll limit the non-4g dumbphone one. If you're on the 4g smartphone plan and were able to get 6-7Mbps even for a second, your settings are correct and you can't do any better. It's all up to AT&T's coverage now.
And once I have the right settings, do I have to change them from time to time? Or should it be good for the remainder?
That would be about right for real world H+ speeds. Standard hsdpa 3g on ATT(not Plus) will give you about 3,000-4,000 kbps down and about 1,000 kbps up. hsdpa+ is only 2 times as fast down(real world), and about the same up.
While that's not very good when you compare it to LTE, it's really good when you compare to to other "3G' speeds. It's really "good" 3G, but it's still 3G, don't let them fool you.
I don't know if this has been mentioned before or maybe it's something that everyone knows besides me but I happen to go to AT&T store last night and I told them that my HSPA+ or 4G speeds were very slow and that I don't think I was getting the speeds of other 4G phones.
This was verified by testing one of their Galaxy SII phones there and it was getting about 3 to 4 times the speeds of my Note so I was like mine should get that type of speed as well.
Anyway, what had happen was I was using my SIM card from my samsung captivate which was I guess only 3g speeds and limited to that. As soon as I swapped the SIM card for a 4g one, the speeds match that of other 4g phones in the store.
So, if anyone has slow data connection speeds, make sure you are using 4g enabled SIM card. This will make your Note super fast! I'm so happy now that I'm getting about 7 to 8 mbps down and about 1 to 1.5 mbps up which is plenty fast for me and not worth trying to get lte speeds. (I was getting about 1 to 2mbps down and 200 to 400 kbps up on my old SIM card)
Hope this helps someone out who's in my same situation.
So I have the LTE Note and the 3G 6800GT. I called AT&T and confirmed the IMEI for both are correctly registered, and I assume the PTA data (didn't double check that, but I get messages on both, etc.). I'm running a custom rom in the 7.7, stock based RC3 from sk806 (sp?).
So of course the LTE speeds are very fast, but that's not the point. The point is that it seems to me that 3G speeds are slower than they were a couple of months ago, when I still had my iPhone 4.
Either that, or the 7.7 is not HSPA+. With the iPhone I used to get 4K+ down/at least 1/1.5 up. With the 7.7 3G, I never get to 3K down, more like 2200/2800 down, while i only reached 1k once up. Mostly I get 400/700kbs up.
Is that anybody else's experiences, or is that my particular area?
Thanks.
My HSPA+ speeds on my GS2 (international) haven't changed recently. The obvious answer is that your area's network has become more congested, since none of the speeds you listed is even capping out bandwidth on vanilla 3G.
APN could certainly have an effect as well. I still get the best speeds using pta, but you should make sure that's actually the APN you're using. I don't know what AT&T considers "correctly registered" for the P6800, but according to my best understanding of their logic, it should be on the fauxG plan and using the phone APN, which tends to be more congested than pta. AT&T will also let you use medianet/non-smartphone data with the P6800, and wap.cingular is definitely a slower connection. Check your APN settings, and the plan you're on--you can only use pta with the "4G LTE" data plan, not the "4G" data plan.
Well, one reason is that I don't live exactly on a city center, so my speeds are always slower than most (25K tops for LTE, 4K tops for 3G). The thing is, by 7.7 is doing half of what the iPhone used to do on the same spot (home), so I'm not sure. Going to try my wife's blackberry Torch and see what it gets.
But yeah, it might be my area. But I was just wondering if it makes sense for AT&T to make LTE even faster sacrificing a bit of 3G speeds, when available bandwidth is limited already. Looks like AT&T might think that it would make LTE more attractive and would "spread the word" about AT&T data faster this way. Power users would be on LTE anyway, so they wouldn't notice.
I just got 3.5 Mbps down HSPA+ on my 6800 in the same spot where I'm getting 35Mbps down on my LTE Note. That's about how it has been previously.
I cant seem to get over 500kbps on my ATT connection, does anyone now any good APN settings? My Tmobile Nexus 4 gets over 9mbps while sitting next to it. Both are HSPA+
Why not use your nexus 7 over t-mobile network?
It may be that you just have a stronger connection to t-mobile's network where you are.
Att has coverage in more areas, so by having one on tmo and the other on Att I was hoping to make sure that I can always get data access. Looks like the trade off is better coverage, worse speeds.