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I get about 2-3mbps at home.....so about 5 minutes from my home i wanted to show my friend how fast my data is vs his Sprint.....well my 3G crapped out at around 200-300kbps and his Sprint was in 5-6mbps range.....this is the second time now Tmobile data does this to me. The other time my friend was streaming 128kbps music on ATT iPhone while I had GPRS with pretty much non-working data connection....< this was 1 year ago, and exactly the same this year !
Spotty network connection. Happens to me all the time.
Yeah that sucks. I always read about other people getting 4-6mbs on their vibrants. In my town I only get 1-2.5mbs on 3g, in the town next to me I can get 3mbs. If I want real speed I just stay home and get 14mbs on my wifi network.
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I get about 2-3mbps at home.....so about 5 minutes from my home i wanted to show my friend how fast my data is vs his Sprint.....well my 3G crapped out at around 200-300kbps and his Sprint was in 5-6mbps range.....this is the second time now Tmobile data does this to me. The other time my friend was streaming 128kbps music on ATT iPhone while I had GPRS with pretty much non-working data connection....< this was 1 year ago, and exactly the same this year !
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This happens to the best of us. I tried a speedtest with vs a dude who was all proud of his Evo using 4G and i beat him in my office 4Mbs vs 3Mbs. It just all depends on where you're at and how congested the network is. If it makes you feel any better, my Vibrant can smoke my Droid X 90 percent of the time.
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I get about 2-3mbps at home.....so about 5 minutes from my home i wanted to show my friend how fast my data is vs his Sprint.....well my 3G crapped out at around 200-300kbps and his Sprint was in 5-6mbps range.....this is the second time now Tmobile data does this to me. The other time my friend was streaming 128kbps music on ATT iPhone while I had GPRS with pretty much non-working data connection....< this was 1 year ago, and exactly the same this year !
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Networks vary. This shouldn't be a surprise. Each tower is different. Different loads. Different backhauls.
2 days ago I had a friend over with his iPhone4, and I was telling him about Nero v3 on my Vibrant, and the subject of speed tests came up. So he pulls up his speedtest.net app, and happily shows me a 2.5mbps test, with 220ms ping. I'm like "hey, not bad", then I pull out my Vibrant and run a test: 4.4mbps, 84ms ping.
It only went slow because you were trying to one-up your friend.
Ive been getting edge like speed on my vibrant ever since thanksgiving day. It sometimes gets to 3g.
I finally rang up tmobile support and apparently its becuase theres a network problem with the towers....so, in 72 hours, it should be fixed by the engineers.
Before the slow speed I was getting constant 1500-2000kbps, now I am struggling to get over 100kbps, almost dial up speed
Verizon 4G LTE 22 megabits/sec download. What the heck???????????????????????????????
I am simply speachless at how fast Verizon wireless 4G LTE is.
So my friend is getting a new phone and we go on a shopping adventure. Verizon, At&t and T-Mobile all 3 stores accross the street from one another.
All 3 stores are located in Los Angeles in a verified 4G area.
We ran a little experiment, hitting up 4G phones and running speedtest. We ran speedtest a few times, and the below are average max scores
Verizon HTC Thunderbolt 20-22 mbps download every single time, and 35mbps upload
At&t Motorola Atrix 4G Max download 0.36mbps What the heck? That doesn't even count as 3G I don't think
T-Mobile Vibrant 4G Max download about 1.5mbps. Still not 4G in my opinion
My personal T-Mobile Vibrant 3G max download about 3mbps. For some reason my Vibrant 3G had faster downloads thant the Vibrant 4G every single time, and we ran the test like 10 times.
So At&t was just simply a joke. T-Mobile was more acceptable, but still not 4G speeds, and I have no clue why my 3G Vibrant outperformed the 4G Vibrant. So we ran the test on the HTC G2 4G, again faster speeds on my Vibrant 3G. Doesn't make sense.
Now, Verizon 4G LTE 22 mbps download, 35 mbps upload. NO I AM NOT KIDDING.
He ends up getting the Thunderbolt, driving around LA all day yesterday, not one single spot did the Thunderbolt go below 18mbps download, and was consistantly getting over 25mbps upload.
I am amazed, now THAT IS 4G!
Are those speeds real or is the phone reporting incorrectly? He is even getting almost 40 mbps upload sometimes. Seriously? Tell me thats just a software issue giving false speeds, because that is almost not believable!
Just jumped from the N1 with an unlimited Android Data plan.I've been scratching my head ever since I purchased my off-contract phone, as to why I was getting ridiculously slow speedtest results (58 kb/s /38 kb/s with full green bars) avg. I'm not sure if everyone did what I did but I took the sim card out of my N1 and activated the phone w/ T-mobile by calling in the IMEI. Turns out my N1 data plan (according to the service rep) was for the 3g service and the NS apparently uses a newer 4g service.The rep made the change and told me it should go into effect in about 2 hours and I've just rec'd a text stating that my web plan has been changed. Going to wait to run the test a bit later tonight to see if I can pull in faster speeds with speedtest. If you aren't getting the speeds you think you should here in the US with optimal signal, a call to Tmobile to verify that you the correct. Going to activate the sim card that came with the phone just to be on the safe side too. Hope this helps anyone out there reading this
UPDATE! Man I feel stupid lol but that seems to have done the trick. Just pulled 1542 kbps/ 376kbps. Should I expect higher? Just looked at the Tmobile website and Android Mobile Web - Unlimited has been changed to 4G Web- Unlimited.
Just a note: NS can not use 4G
Ulukita said:
Just jumped from the N1 with an unlimited Android Data plan.I've been scratching my head ever since I purchased my off-contract phone, as to why I was getting ridiculously slow speedtest results (58 kb/s /38 kb/s with full green bars) avg. I'm not sure if everyone did what I did but I took the sim card out of my N1 and activated the phone w/ T-mobile by calling in the IMEI. Turns out my N1 data plan (according to the service rep) was for the 3g service and the NS apparently uses a newer 4g service.The rep made the change and told me it should go into effect in about 2 hours and I've just rec'd a text stating that my web plan has been changed. Going to wait to run the test a bit later tonight to see if I can pull in faster speeds with speedtest. If you aren't getting the speeds you think you should here in the US with optimal signal, a call to Tmobile to verify that you the correct. Going to activate the sim card that came with the phone just to be on the safe side too. Hope this helps anyone out there reading this
UPDATE! Man I feel stupid lol but that seems to have done the trick. Just pulled 1542 kbps/ 376kbps. Should I expect higher? Just looked at the Tmobile website and Android Mobile Web - Unlimited has been changed to 4G Web- Unlimited.
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i get an average of 4500-6500kbps here in brooklyn.
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Just a note: NS can not use 4G
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From what I understand, it can benefit from 4G to the extent the 3G network it would otherwise use is slower than what it is internally capable of handling, it just can't take full advantage because its hardware antenna is limited to a 7.2 mbps transfer rate.
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I just did the same test and now I'm pullin in 400kbps/ 376 kbps. I guess I'm just not in a good area Will try again tomorrow in a different part of the house. TY for the info everyone.
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Not entirely correct. While it doesn't boast full hspa its capable of higher than standard 3G speeds by using the 4g network. However unless using a custom rom you won't be able to see when it's on hspa.
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I can pull 1840/590 frequently.
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The Nexus One can also pull data off the HSPA+ data network (mine was averaging 4Mb/s after T-Mo upgraded my area).
My Nexus S can't seem to pull nearly that amount though. I need to pull out my N1 and test both in the same location to see if network performance has deteriorated in my area overall, or if the NS just isn't hauling the load properly.
Others have reported success in increasing data speeds with a call to T-Mo and changing to 4G account type in other threads here, so the theory is sound, assuming you're on an old account with some bad data plan. I clearly wasn't, based on my N1's performance, but the N1 was my first T-Mo phone/sim.
I had sort of the same issue. I was on a mytouch 3g data plan with my nexus s for 3 weeks and one day the data on my phone stopped working but I could still make calls. I called T-Mobile and the rep upgraded me to the 4g plan and its been working ever since.
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The Nexus One can also pull data off the HSPA+ data network (mine was averaging 4Mb/s after T-Mo upgraded my area).
My Nexus S can't seem to pull nearly that amount though. I need to pull out my N1 and test both in the same location to see if network performance has deteriorated in my area overall, or if the NS just isn't hauling the load properly.
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I am both happy and sad to report that after some minimal testing, my Nexus S is getting the same download speeds as my Nexus One when using the same sim card in the same location off the same speedtest.net servers. I am getting around 2990Kb/s on both phones down, 2000 up. This is happy since it shows no hardware issues with the NS as I had originally thought.
It is sad because T-Mo used to serve up around 3800-4000Kb/s in this area. Not that in most real world uses, even tethering, that there's much difference.
the Nexus S just cant pull higher than 7.2 down HSPA+ is more about the backend
I have thought about making the call but I'm afraid that tmobile might make me switch to the "third party phone" plan for $30 when I pay $25 for unlimited data with my G1 plan. plus I would have to add a text plan and I would end up pay about $20 more than I do now.
I've been getting 3mb down since they upgraded my area and I'm on android unlimited web plan.
I just called T-mobile for the second time and asked to add the 4G web plan and the rep. told me that my device was not a 4G device and for that reason the 4G plan could not be added.
Is there really a difference between Android web and 4G web? or is it just name? I'm going to find out. Tomorrow I will borrow my brother's SIM card (from his G2), and do some speed tests.
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i get an average of 4500-6500kbps here in brooklyn.
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Wtf? The most I've gotten was 3Mbps in Brooklyn.
If I order this will I get HSPA+ speeds on the device? If not, what's the point of spending 700 bucks and only getting to use 3G speeds?
This would be my only drawback from getting this phone
On a 4G+ plan AND with help setting you up with a 4G+ imei (my phone is on a skyrocket imei)....you'll get hspa+ speeds. You won't on GoPhone even if you get a 4G sim card.
I have a Note on AT&T and get the same speeds as I did on my GS2, which is 6 down on average in my area. The HSPA + speeds are not effected on the Note for AT&T, only on Tmobile you will get 2G/EDGE speeds because of their baseband.
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On a 4G+ plan AND with help setting you up with a 4G+ imei (my phone is on a skyrocket imei)....you'll get hspa+ speeds. You won't on GoPhone even if you get a 4G sim card.
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Ok, right now I'm on the iPhone 4S so I have a data plan. My local AT&T said they would give me a SIM card. So if I order the Note, get the SIM, and change some settings (I'm assuming you know these setting I need to change) I will get 4G (HSPA+) speeds?
EDIT: getting a 4G imei is what I meant (how do I get one so I can get 4G speed)
I have a Note on AT&T. Had to get the correct APN's in there (find the thread with them). With a 4G SIM and data plan, fastest speed test result I have gotten is 11MBps down and 1.1up. Average is 3-5MBps down and 1Mbps up. Usually shows H+ icon so we'r'e good there! You also have to play around with what modem works best in your area. I am using the KK5 modem and battery life is amazing but initial connectivity is a tad laggy in some areas of SoCal.
12/28/11 UPDATE:
The reason for the better speeds on the Skyrocket is that it uses the 'pta' apn instead of the 'phone' or 'wap.cingular' ones. The only way to use that apn is if you have an LTE sim card and you have an LTE data plan on your account (you won't get a data connection if you try to use that apn without the sim and data plan). So, I went to my local AT&T store and got a new sim and had them switch my plan and now I am able to get pings in the 50-70ms range and my download speeds have doubled. I'm sure this varies a lot from area to area but we will all need to upgrade to an lte sim and data plan eventually so you might as well do it now and try out the new APN. It made a significant improvement for me in central New Jersey. Good Luck!
Here are the apn settings that I copied from my wife's Skyrocket. Again, YOU MUST BE ON THE LTE DATA PLAN AND HAVE AN LTE SIM CARD FOR THIS TO WORK.
Name: ATT pta
APN: pta
MMSC: http://mmsc.mobile.att.net
MMS proxy: proxy.mobile.att.net
MMS port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
Authentication type: None
APN type: internet + mms
Any fields not mentioned above should be left blank.
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So yesterday I bought my wife the SGS2 Skyrocket (she wanted an iPhone, I wouldn't allow it). I started setting things up for her and did a speedtest to see how it compared to my i9100. WOW, that phone is blazing fast! And we are in central New Jersey where there is no LTE available so this was on HSPA+. I have only tested in a few locations, but at my house she got 6 mbps down and 2 up. I tested mine right after and I got around half that (and I have NEVER gotten 6 mbps down since I've owned my phone). These tests were consistent as I ran them multiple times. Her ping was also consistently around 60ms in many different locations with many different signal levels. My ping never goes below around 110ms. Needless to say, I'm displeased about this. I know there were a bunch of threads from months ago with some ideas about AT&T data speeds (I've read them all) and I've tried some of those ideas but nothing gets me close to what she is achieving on the Skyrocket. Here is what I've tried so far:
1) I noticed her phone is on that 'pta' apn whereas mine was on the 'phone' apn. I tried copying her information over but my phone would not establish a data connection when using the 'pta' apn. I researched it and found out this was because my phone is on the HSPA+ 4G plan and not the LTE 4G plan. This might have something to do with it but I doubt it. Last night I tried switching our sim cards. We were in an area with bad coverage but from what I could tell, her phone was still pulling better speeds. I was even able to use the 'pta' apn on my phone once I had her sim card but it still didn't improve much. I am going to try this again tonight at home where we get good signal. This will confirm that it is not the LTE sim card, the LTE data plan or the 'pta' apn.
2) I tried switching modems, flashed about 5 of them but there was not a significant difference in my speed between any of them. I even tried flashing a modem from the AT&T GSII (not the skyrocket), it still didn't have a noticeable improvement.
3) This thread talks about making some changes to the build.prop file to improve your HSPA speeds. I have tried these changes with no improvement. Perhaps there is some special configuration in her build.prop but her phone is not rooted so I can't look to find out.
I'm not sure what else to try at this point. Something very fundamental must be wrong because I expect an AT&T phone to be slightly better on their network (because the software is optimized for that network only), it shouldn't be twice the download speeds and half the ping time. I would be curious as to how the AT&T SGSII (not skyrocket) performs. Maybe the skyrocket has better hardware for the modem than our phone?
Any feedback is appreciated and if you know anyone with the AT&T versions of our phones, go ahead and compare your speedtests to theirs and report your results. Needless to say, I can't live with my wife having a faster phone than me so I need to fix this ASAP! Thanks in advance!
The maximum theorical HSPA+ speed supported by hardware on the SkyRocket is 42mbps while the S2 is 21mbps. The processor on the SkyRocket is a Qualcomm because our Exynos chip doesn't support 42mbps.
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Thanks for the reply. Interesting thought but according to this page, the Skyrocket is also 21mbps HSPA+, same as our phones.
Hah ! I'm not sure, cos the SkyRocket amd the Tmobile s2 are supposed to be nearly identical. Can't find an exact quote by AT&T regarding this as well
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I get 6 Mbps down and 2 up with KL1 modem using the wap.cingular APN
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I get 6 Mbps down and 2 up with KL1 modem using the wap.cingular APN
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Ok I just tried the wap.cingular APN, I got the same performance as on 'phone'. What is your ping like? The Skyrocket was getting 50's and 60's consistently and I never approach pings that low in my i9100.
I have gotten as high as 8Mbps down and 2.2 up with the KL1 modem using the "phone" apn.
In fact at the office my GT-I9100 (the international version) is generally faster than my colleagues SkyRocket when testing download/upload speeds.
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Wow, really? Do I have defective hardware? I know speeds vary a lot by location but the Skyrocket has consistenly been faster everywhere I've tested it so it proves the network is capable of much more than my phone is achieving. Also, I've never wiped my phone since I got it, could that be a factor (I doubt it because I don't have a single issue but I'm just throwing it out there).
Anyone else able to test their i9100 vs a skyrocket or at&t gs2? BTW I am currently using KL1 as well and don't get the results you are getting.
Compare tcp reveive window size and window scaling settings, also if there is a proxy defined in apn, sgs2 is not following it unfortunately....
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If there is a huge difference in ping it could indicate that skyrocket apn is "optimized" via special proxy. And as i mentioned, even u tried your wife's sim, sgs2 is ignoring it due to it limitation...
Only guessing...
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You should put your SIM in your wife's skyrocket, then call AT&T and ask them to put you on the LTE plan--assuming they don't charge more for this--then switch back and run some more tests. It could be that the pta apn isn't allowing the I9100 whatever increased throughput it is granting the skyrocket because you're on a different speed plan.
It's also possible that the Qualcomm HSPA+ hardware is just better (please don't lynch me for this suggestion).
Ok, thanks all for the input. Tonight I am going to try her sim in my phone with the pta apn. Then if the speeds improve I'll know thats the issue and I can work on getting my sim provisioned to the LTE plan as well. I know her sim is set up on that plan and will work with the pta apn so I'll be able to test it that way. I'll also put my sim in her phone and set up the 'phone' apn and try that, just to see. I'll report back late tonight or tomorrow with my findings.
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Ok I just tried the wap.cingular APN, I got the same performance as on 'phone'. What is your ping like? The Skyrocket was getting 50's and 60's consistently and I never approach pings that low in my i9100.
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down/up in kilobits per second
5894/1075 - 122ms ping
1551/1082 - 167ms ping
6806/1080 - 119ms ping
1160/781 - 121ms ping
..kinda all over the place but this is expected at 4pm
This is what I got a few min. ago using wap.cingular APN. Upload speed is on the slow side but download speed is on par as your wife's. Keep in mind, the test was performed in LA area around 16:45. I'm using DXKL1 modem.
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I'm interested to see how this turns out. I've been wondering the same thing. I know LTE is definitely faster but I still think that my speeds should be faster than they really are. Later this week I'm going to go to the AT&T Corporate store in my area and compare my speeds against some of their other "4G" devices and see where I fall.
So I tested my phone with my wife's LTE provisioned SIM card and got the same slow speeds. But, I then was able to change the apn to pta and try again and that did the trick. I started getting ping's in the 50-70 range and much higher download speeds (hit 6.5 around my house for the first time ever). So I can confirm that the Skyrocket gets better speeds because it is using the 'pta' apn. And to use that apn, you have to have an LTE SIM with the LTE data plan. I went to my local AT&T store today and upgraded my sim and switched that plan and I am now enjoying consistently better data speeds.
I will update the first post to reflect my findings so everyone will know how to get the better speeds.
On a completely different topic, we were in Brooklyn NY last night where AT&T has LTE coverage. I did a few speed tests on my wife's Skyrocket and WOW, its insanely fast. With just 1 bar of signal it got over 10mbps down and with 4 bars it got 58 mbps down and 17 mbps up. I couldn't believe my eyes but I ran multiple tests and all were incredibly fast. I don't know if AT&T will be able to maintain speeds like that once the network gets saturated but the idea of having substantially faster internet on my cell phone as compared to my FIOS internet at home is really insane. I can't wait for them to expand the LTE network, hopefully they get it up and running in New Jersey right in time for my next phone upgrade.
Just went to the AT&T store to get an upgrade for my dad. Did his upgrade and then was in the process of getting my LTE sim but their system wouldn't let them process the request. He told me to just come back tomorrow and he'll try it again.
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Cool, let me know how it works out. For me, they had to play around with the imei to get the system to allow the LTE plan on the account. I just told them that I sometimes put my sim in LTE compatible phones and I need it to work for when I do. Took him 10 minutes to fight with the system then he was able to get it to work. They did it for no charge and I was able to keep my unlimited data plan.
OK cool, I know there was no issue when I first did that for HSPA+ when I got my GSII. I'm going to try it again tomorrow. The guy that helped me out was cool and I told him he'd have to probably get the IMEI from one of their LTE devices to "activate" me. I also have unlimited so that's good to hear.
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Just left the AT&T store and got a great rep. I was literally in and out in 15 minutes, 12 of those were waiting for someone to be able to help me.
I updated my APN and can successfully connect to the "pta" APN. Ran it twice so far and ping is between 50-70 which is better than I have gotten so far. Thanks a lot for this btw. Hopefully speeds will improve slightly overall.
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I am a resident of NYC and an AT&T subscriber, currently using the Samsung Galaxy S3. LTE coverage in NYC is excellent, and I typically get 25-50 Mbps downstream, depending on the area. However, I've always been a fan of the Nexus line, so I ordered the Nexus 4 from the Play Store when they became available again a couple of days ago. Here's my question: how are AT&T's HSPA+ speeds in NYC? I'm well aware that the N4 is not LTE-enabled (the LTE Band 4 hack will not work in NYC, since AT&T runs LTE on the 700 mHz frequency here), so I'm concerned with going back to slower speeds.
LTE has really spoiled me, to the point where I would be willing (albeit reluctantly) to forgo the untainted Android experience and slow updates if data speeds will be slow.
Turn off LTE and then test your speeds. You will have your answer.
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I am a resident of NYC and an AT&T subscriber, currently using the Samsung Galaxy S3. LTE coverage in NYC is excellent, and I typically get 25-50 Mbps downstream, depending on the area. However, I've always been a fan of the Nexus line, so I ordered the Nexus 4 from the Play Store when they became available again a couple of days ago. Here's my question: how are AT&T's HSPA+ speeds in NYC? I'm well aware that the N4 is not LTE-enabled (the LTE Band 4 hack will not work in NYC, since AT&T runs LTE on the 700 mHz frequency here), so I'm concerned with going back to slower speeds.
LTE has really spoiled me, to the point where I would be willing (albeit reluctantly) to forgo the untainted Android experience and slow updates if data speeds will be slow.
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I was curious about this myself. I am in Queens on T-Mobile (out of contract) and get 20 Mbps down and 2.5 Mbps up (faster than TWC).
If T-Mobile is an option, it's worth it! As for AT&T, I have only seen numbers for Straight Talk (via AT&T) and they are not good (less than 10 down).
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Turn off LTE and then test your speeds. You will have your answer.
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This.
You can easily turn off your LTE and test out hspa.
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AT&T's GS3 doesn't have the toggle option to disable LTE. From what I understand, AT&T has also disabled the dialer code to turn off LTE. I'll look into it a bit further.
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I was curious about this myself. I am in Queens on T-Mobile (out of contract) and get 20 Mbps down and 2.5 Mbps up (faster than TWC).
If T-Mobile is an option, it's worth it! As for AT&T, I have only seen numbers for Straight Talk (via AT&T) and they are not good (less than 10 down).
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Unfortunately, T-Mobile is not an option for me, as the data speeds top out at 0.5 Mbps downstream in my area (Bensonhurst). I am actually a former T-Mo subscriber who ended up leaving for AT&T. I get an average of 20-25 Mbps on LTE inside my apartment (up to 50 Mbps outside), so the Nexus 4 would really have to impress me to use it as a daily driver.