T-Mobile claims Nexus One can handle 4G like speeds. - Nexus One General

So I called T-Mobile today because they have promotional 4G rate plans right now. And I gave T-Mobile my IEMI number and according to their systems the nexus one qualify for the upgrade to their 4G network. I upgraded to it for an additional $5 dollars a month. Now to my knowledge the nexus one was not built to handle 4G band speeds but I did notice a major speed boost on my device. Maybe not a full 4G experience but definitely feels like my 3G is on steroids. Btw I'm on the EVEN MORE PLUS PLAN.

That would be awesome...I thought you would need a new radio to get it. What radio version are you using? Anyhow, do post up some Speedtest results!

i was wondering about this because HSPA+ is just a newer version of what Tmo 3G phones use, afaik there is no change in the bands they use to communicate and it really should just be as simple as flashing a new radio to a phone to get it to be HSPA+ (aka 3.5G aka T-mobile 4G)
now i doubt that a provider will be willing to update their current phones because they want you to buy a new phone that is "for their 4G" network. its possible though that the Korean radios that have leaked may have this support in them and might explain why your seeing a speed increase.
something else you can do is go into settings>about phone>status> check mobile network type to see if it says HSDPA or HSPA+
there is also another more advanced screen that you can check but i forgot the silly #*#* code you put into access it but i know if you install the app anycut you can make a shortcut to the screen as well
with anycut just make a shortcut for "phone info" to pull up the more advanced screen.

I'm getting 2.87MBps down, and 1.30MBps up. And no I didn't do any radio update. I just told the T-Mobile I wanna switch over to 4G and they said ok and switched me over for an extra five dollars a month.
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look @ my sig, no 4G and i got better speeds

RussianSolja said:
I'm getting 2.87MBps down, and 1.30MBps up. And no I didn't do any radio update. I just told the T-Mobile I wanna switch over to 4G and they said ok and switched me over for an extra five dollars a month.
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that's not HSPA+ speeds, HSPA+ speed varies from the same as HSDPA to twice as fast.
http://www.tested.com/forums/phones/4/tested-t-mobiles-hspa-network-vs-traditional-3g/3943/
in this test the N1 maxed out at 2.41MBit down and the G2 never went under 3.32Mbit down and topped out at 8.16Mbit down.
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look @ my sig, no 4G and i got better speeds
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that is very good for 3G but uncommon and probably about as fast as you will ever see on HSDPA.
here in the east SF Bay area i usually get about 1.0 Mbit down on my N1 on T-mobile but the speed i see varies and depends highly on local network traffic and what my signal strength is at

Keep in mind that I'm in the subberbs
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Check the specs, n1 will only Max at 7.2 dl 2.0 ul, anything higher is bull
http://www.htc.com/www/product/nexusone/specification.html

N1 here and I had the original data plan that cost 24.99/mo. Old family plan I had for ages since I had the SE Xperia X1, which I still have but do not use .
I have the 3G+ speeds ever since I started using the CM roms, but I never "upgraded" the data plan for faster speed.
How much were you paying beforehand if I may ask? And was it a data plan as well?

I don't think the Nexus can handle the same speeds as the G2 or the new Mytouch 4G.
At work someone has the Mytouch 4G and we did speed test with both phone, mine is on the latest Korean radio and he's download speed was always double than my Nexus.
So again I don't think is possible.

Never claimed to be on HSPA+
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Never claimed to be on HSPA+
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I didn't implied you lie, what I say is they are wrong, and it's sad because I'd love to have 4G in the nexus.

I dont really understand 3g and 4g speeds, but isnt the latency more important? I dont think 3mb vs 10mb will make a huge difference on a phone, it doesnt on my desktop connection, but isnt the biggest hurdle the time to actually get the network to connect to the internet? From what i have noticed, the first website you access takes alot longer than the subsequent sites.

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I dont really understand 3g and 4g speeds, but isnt the latency more important? I dont think 3mb vs 10mb will make a huge difference on a phone, it doesnt on my desktop connection, but isnt the biggest hurdle the time to actually get the network to connect to the internet? From what i have noticed, the first website you access takes alot longer than the subsequent sites.
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Depends on your usage...if you download files, then speed DOES matter, MUCH more than latency. If you simply browse, you do need a MINIMUM speed, but then latency is mucchhhh more important. I would consider 5mb a minimum speed for good browsing.
On computers, you CAN use faster speeds to access the pages faster by using pipelining...dun think phones have support for that though

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So I called T-Mobile today because they have promotional 4G rate plans right now. And I gave T-Mobile my IEMI number and according to their systems the nexus one qualify for the upgrade to their 4G network. I upgraded to it for an additional $5 dollars a month. Now to my knowledge the nexus one was not built to handle 4G band speeds but I did notice a major speed boost on my device. Maybe not a full 4G experience but definitely feels like my 3G is on steroids. Btw I'm on the EVEN MORE PLUS PLAN.
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Call them back and get back on the $20 preferred Android Internet plan. They misinformed you. The data plan you are on does not determine the data speed you see. There are a ton of people on HowardForums with old grandfathered $5.99 T-Zones plans and $9.99 web2go data plans getting faster speeds then what you are seeing.
You are wasting your money with any plan more expensive then the $20 preferred Android Internet plan and if you can get on a cheaper one it will work exactly the same.

It's very possible that T-mobile is throttling accounts now that they can offer faster overall speeds.
It could be a (****ty-consumer wise) way to exploit the 4g (mis)nomer.

I can tell you this I am a T-mobile RSA and I am not sure what the extra $5 amonth the guy did but there is no 4g data plan. Every Android data plan i use in the store is the same plan I give ppl on every android phone T-Mobile sells. There is no 3G or 4G plan. Every plan is the same unless you are looking at the 200mb, 2gb, unlimited plan. I would say call 611 and tell them to change it back and run speed test again. T-Mobile in the soon to be future is moving to a 3 tier data plan. By this I mean they are going to let you pick a 200mb, 2gb, and unlimited data rate plan. Every plan is going to have the same speeds but limit you to what you can download before you are throttled or start to see overages. Call and get your money back.

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I can tell you this I am a T-mobile RSA and I am not sure what the extra $5 amonth the guy did but there is no 4g data plan. Every Android data plan i use in the store is the same plan I give ppl on every android phone T-Mobile sells. There is no 3G or 4G plan. Every plan is the same unless you are looking at the 200mb, 2gb, unlimited plan. I would say call 611 and tell them to change it back and run speed test again. T-Mobile in the soon to be future is moving to a 3 tier data plan. By this I mean they are going to let you pick a 200mb, 2gb, and unlimited data rate plan. Every plan is going to have the same speeds but limit you to what you can download before you are throttled or start to see overages. Call and get your money back.
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Same thing he said. I'm a TMobile CSR and whoever you were speaking with was trying to get a 5.00 bump on there add ons. No difference between EDGE data plans/3G data plan/4G(HSPA+) data plans. People that use the Iphone on our network pay the same 25 or 30 that people do that have 3G devices.

OP is a car salesman dream customer. "Would you like extended warranty?"

I'm in canada on rogers "hsdpa+, hspa, 4g, etc" and at peak hours I get 2.95 down and 1.2 up and have had up to 5.65 down 1.4 up
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Android + Web2Go Speeds

I am on T-mobile USA. I use a UK HD2. Therefore, I do not have 3G frequencies. I am on Web2Go (unlimited Data), however, my speeds are limited to 2G edge. It's painfully slow.
Is data speeds a cause by Android or my carrier's speeds?
Can Web2Go be any faster if, say, I had a US HD2 (assuming t-mobile doesn't know I have a smartphone under Web2Go)??? What speeds will I be surfing the web? 3G 4G?
Thanks!
Your post confuses me, but I think this may be the answer you're looking for.
Edge (which is actually 2.5G) has a max download limit of about 25kB/s, that's a technical limitation and cannot be bypassed. Android has got nothing to do with this. You also can't softmod your phone to receive TMO's 3G frequencies, if you really want it you're gonna need a TMO supported HD2. 4G is out of question, but I've heard their 3G network is pretty damn quick. (Couple of megabits/sec download, should suffice methinks!)
StephanV said:
Your post confuses me, but I think this may be the answer you're looking for.
Edge (which is actually 2.5G) has a max download limit of about 25kB/s, that's a technical limitation and cannot be bypassed. Android has got nothing to do with this. You also can't softmod your phone to receive TMO's 3G frequencies, if you really want it you're gonna need a TMO supported HD2. 4G is out of question, but I've heard their 3G network is pretty damn quick. (Couple of megabits/sec download, should suffice methinks!)
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thank you. that was informative.
But my question is if my HD2 was able to pick up 3G or 4G (hspa+), will my download speeds be limited to my phone's frequencies or limited to the data plan I have, which is the $9.99 Web2Go?
it is a hardware limitation. your UK hd2 does not support t-mobile's 3G bands. therefore, you will not get 3G speeds from t-mobile.
t-mobile does not implement a speed limit on their data plans; their grandfathered plans ranging from $3 data plans go just as fast as the current $30 data plans.*
I have a T-MOUS branded HD2 with the $10 web2go plan, using internet2.voicestream.com APN. I cannot get T-Mob's HSPDA+ (4G) because it's hardware limitation, I believe only the G2 and Mytouch 4G are capable of HSPDA+ on T-Mobile.
My HD2 with Android gets HSPDA (3.5G) just fine. The speeds vary tremendously depending on my location. There's one particular spot in my town where I ran a several speedtests and consistently got 3.2 Mbps download and 1.5 Mbps upload. But for most locations, I get only around 1.2Mbps download and 1.4Mbps upload. And inside my house, where's mainly a deadzone for data, I only get Edge which is around 200Kbps download and 350Kbps upload.
My HD2 is the same way. I used to get 3Mbps, but one day I lost 3G for a day, the next day it came on and was slow. I would get 0.43Mbps on speed test. It would never go above 1Mbps, unless I go 3 blocks away from my home, I would get up to 5Mbps. Back at my house it would go back to 0.06Mbps-1Mbps. This has been happening for ever since OCT 26 2010.
From OCT 26 to now I have been using Tmobile Data as my ISP. Thought since they have a very fast network that can go up to 21Mbps and only at $25 I will go and get the USB PC stick, but from what has been happening I decided to remove the data plan from my phone because it was worthless and too slow to even watch videos. They have told me that their are issues in some states were you may not even get any data or voice. But its taking them too long to fix. I'm gonna wait about 2 months before I go back, hopefully they have the issue resolved.
nexus14 said:
it is a hardware limitation. your UK hd2 does not support t-mobile's 3G bands. therefore, you will not get 3G speeds from t-mobile.
t-mobile does not implement a speed limit on their data plans; their grandfathered plans ranging from $3 data plans go just as fast as the current $30 data plans.*
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OMG! really?
So I can get 4G speeds with the G2 on the grandfather $5.99 Web2Go Plan?
What is stopping me from getting a G2 off contract and popping my SIM (which currently have Web2Go) into the phone?
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What is stopping me from getting a G2 off contract and popping my SIM (which currently have Web2Go) into the phone?
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Buying the G2 off contract, probably?
In all honesty, I think this 4G is way overrated. HSPA supports up to 14mbps, that's almost 2 megabytes per second. That's about the max speed I get with my broadband connection at home.
I can't even tell the difference between surfing on WiFi or 3G, because the browser is obviously the bottleneck which slows things down.
lemonspeakers said:
OMG! really?
So I can get 4G speeds with the G2 on the grandfather $5.99 Web2Go Plan?
What is stopping me from getting a G2 off contract and popping my SIM (which currently have Web2Go) into the phone?
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All of T-Mob's Android phones are locked by IMEI, so I don't think your data plan will not work. When you try to use data, it'll say you have to upgrade your data plan.
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All of T-Mob's Android phones are locked by IMEI, so I don't think your data plan will not work. When you try to use data, it'll say you have to upgrade your data plan.
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Oh really? Then what phones CAN use t-mobile's 4G in america?
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Oh really? Then what phones CAN use t-mobile's 4G in america?
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T-Mob G2 or MyTouch 4G. But when you get those phones, you have to upgrade your data plan. I don't think your $6 tzone will work with those phones.
this question may come across a bit noobish but I'm using the UK HD2 on Tmob UK and getting 3G speeds so I'm unable to understand what you mean by it's a hardware limitation of the HD2 UK to get 3G speeds. Unless Tmob US works differently?
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this question may come across a bit noobish but I'm using the UK HD2 on Tmob UK and getting 3G speeds so I'm unable to understand what you mean by it's a hardware limitation of the HD2 UK to get 3G speeds. Unless Tmob US works differently?
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Uhu, tmous has its own 3g frequency (frequencies actually).

Fixed Slow Nexus S Data w/ call to Tmobile!

Just jumped from the N1 with an unlimited Android Data plan.I've been scratching my head ever since I purchased my off-contract phone, as to why I was getting ridiculously slow speedtest results (58 kb/s /38 kb/s with full green bars) avg. I'm not sure if everyone did what I did but I took the sim card out of my N1 and activated the phone w/ T-mobile by calling in the IMEI. Turns out my N1 data plan (according to the service rep) was for the 3g service and the NS apparently uses a newer 4g service.The rep made the change and told me it should go into effect in about 2 hours and I've just rec'd a text stating that my web plan has been changed. Going to wait to run the test a bit later tonight to see if I can pull in faster speeds with speedtest. If you aren't getting the speeds you think you should here in the US with optimal signal, a call to Tmobile to verify that you the correct. Going to activate the sim card that came with the phone just to be on the safe side too. Hope this helps anyone out there reading this
UPDATE! Man I feel stupid lol but that seems to have done the trick. Just pulled 1542 kbps/ 376kbps. Should I expect higher? Just looked at the Tmobile website and Android Mobile Web - Unlimited has been changed to 4G Web- Unlimited.
Just a note: NS can not use 4G
Ulukita said:
Just jumped from the N1 with an unlimited Android Data plan.I've been scratching my head ever since I purchased my off-contract phone, as to why I was getting ridiculously slow speedtest results (58 kb/s /38 kb/s with full green bars) avg. I'm not sure if everyone did what I did but I took the sim card out of my N1 and activated the phone w/ T-mobile by calling in the IMEI. Turns out my N1 data plan (according to the service rep) was for the 3g service and the NS apparently uses a newer 4g service.The rep made the change and told me it should go into effect in about 2 hours and I've just rec'd a text stating that my web plan has been changed. Going to wait to run the test a bit later tonight to see if I can pull in faster speeds with speedtest. If you aren't getting the speeds you think you should here in the US with optimal signal, a call to Tmobile to verify that you the correct. Going to activate the sim card that came with the phone just to be on the safe side too. Hope this helps anyone out there reading this
UPDATE! Man I feel stupid lol but that seems to have done the trick. Just pulled 1542 kbps/ 376kbps. Should I expect higher? Just looked at the Tmobile website and Android Mobile Web - Unlimited has been changed to 4G Web- Unlimited.
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i get an average of 4500-6500kbps here in brooklyn.
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Just a note: NS can not use 4G
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From what I understand, it can benefit from 4G to the extent the 3G network it would otherwise use is slower than what it is internally capable of handling, it just can't take full advantage because its hardware antenna is limited to a 7.2 mbps transfer rate.
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I just did the same test and now I'm pullin in 400kbps/ 376 kbps. I guess I'm just not in a good area Will try again tomorrow in a different part of the house. TY for the info everyone.
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Not entirely correct. While it doesn't boast full hspa its capable of higher than standard 3G speeds by using the 4g network. However unless using a custom rom you won't be able to see when it's on hspa.
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I can pull 1840/590 frequently.
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The Nexus One can also pull data off the HSPA+ data network (mine was averaging 4Mb/s after T-Mo upgraded my area).
My Nexus S can't seem to pull nearly that amount though. I need to pull out my N1 and test both in the same location to see if network performance has deteriorated in my area overall, or if the NS just isn't hauling the load properly.
Others have reported success in increasing data speeds with a call to T-Mo and changing to 4G account type in other threads here, so the theory is sound, assuming you're on an old account with some bad data plan. I clearly wasn't, based on my N1's performance, but the N1 was my first T-Mo phone/sim.
I had sort of the same issue. I was on a mytouch 3g data plan with my nexus s for 3 weeks and one day the data on my phone stopped working but I could still make calls. I called T-Mobile and the rep upgraded me to the 4g plan and its been working ever since.
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The Nexus One can also pull data off the HSPA+ data network (mine was averaging 4Mb/s after T-Mo upgraded my area).
My Nexus S can't seem to pull nearly that amount though. I need to pull out my N1 and test both in the same location to see if network performance has deteriorated in my area overall, or if the NS just isn't hauling the load properly.
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I am both happy and sad to report that after some minimal testing, my Nexus S is getting the same download speeds as my Nexus One when using the same sim card in the same location off the same speedtest.net servers. I am getting around 2990Kb/s on both phones down, 2000 up. This is happy since it shows no hardware issues with the NS as I had originally thought.
It is sad because T-Mo used to serve up around 3800-4000Kb/s in this area. Not that in most real world uses, even tethering, that there's much difference.
the Nexus S just cant pull higher than 7.2 down HSPA+ is more about the backend
I have thought about making the call but I'm afraid that tmobile might make me switch to the "third party phone" plan for $30 when I pay $25 for unlimited data with my G1 plan. plus I would have to add a text plan and I would end up pay about $20 more than I do now.
I've been getting 3mb down since they upgraded my area and I'm on android unlimited web plan.
I just called T-mobile for the second time and asked to add the 4G web plan and the rep. told me that my device was not a 4G device and for that reason the 4G plan could not be added.
Is there really a difference between Android web and 4G web? or is it just name? I'm going to find out. Tomorrow I will borrow my brother's SIM card (from his G2), and do some speed tests.
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i get an average of 4500-6500kbps here in brooklyn.
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Wtf? The most I've gotten was 3Mbps in Brooklyn.

Sprint's Network Loses Badly in National Speed Test

Sprint has proven once again that their Network vision upgrade needs to have happened yesterday. These results show not only that sprint's network is struggling in some areas but MOST areas.
They only managed a 480kbps average EV-DO (3G) speed, the slowest speed tested. Their 4g and 3g networks were also some of the least reliable networks tested.
Get the picture Sprint. We need a real 4g network on a real spectrum. A 2500mhz Wimax network spottily thrown together isn't going to cut it, neither is 10 year old backhaul. It's make or break time Sprint.
Are we looking at the same chart?
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All I care about is if I get good reception.
And I don't.
Should have come to Baton Rouge. They would have scored 0.05 megabit on the speedtest all day long!
The old adage holds true, you get what you pay for..
Well, first I'd like to mention these stats offer no souce or details on how/where and how many times these figures were tested, which I usually like to see (I'm the skeptical type)
That being said, I agree. I'm lucky to be in Chicago, pretty decent 4g and 3g coverage, but 3g's been slowing down more and more and it shows in many places. They need to pick it up on 3g (their main network). No reason for a tower to only offer 1.2 (1 T1 line minus 300kbps for sprint control) even at 4am on a Tuesday in the suburbs, when Verizons almost always 2mpbs or more with full bars on 3g (and has been for years), same network technology. Its data speeds on 3g I've never been quite happy with.
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makes me miss verizon =[
Ya know, they all suck right now. Verizon's going metered and is cdma (less support), T-mobile's going to get eaten by AT&T because our government can't do the only thing it's supposed to do while it's busy doing everything it isn't supposed to do, Sprint is suffering 3g data slowdown, and again is cdma which means less support.
I've been toying with an idea lately to get the World version GSII, do the iphone trick (get an att sim card with basic voice, pop that in a 2g orig iphone to get on the edge data plan which is ONLY available as unlimited, pop that in a 3g iphone to get auto-upgraded to the $30, grandfathered unlimited data plan) and use it on AT&T with unlimited data. The ONLY issue I have with this (as I'd have my unlimited data, GV for sms) is I'd be paying money to a truly terrible entity (AT&T) and I sincerely morally object to everything they're doing. And yet it would mean a much much larger community...
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makes me miss verizon =[
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I know someone who says they can see their data speeds die on Verizon with evry new phone launch. Especially the 4g signal.
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Ya know, they all suck right now. Verizon's going metered and is cdma (less support), T-mobile's going to get eaten by AT&T because our government can't do the only thing it's supposed to do while it's busy doing everything it isn't supposed to do, Sprint is suffering 3g data slowdown, and again is cdma which means less support.
I've been toying with an idea lately to get the World version GSII, do the iphone trick (get an att sim card with basic voice, pop that in a 2g orig iphone to get on the edge data plan which is ONLY available as unlimited, pop that in a 3g iphone to get auto-upgraded to the $30, grandfathered unlimited data plan) and use it on AT&T with unlimited data. The ONLY issue I have with this (as I'd have my unlimited data, GV for sms) is I'd be paying money to a truly terrible entity (AT&T) and I sincerely morally object to everything they're doing. And yet it would mean a much much larger community...
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My sister is doing an even easier and cheaper trick. Get a t-mobile vibrant or motorola defy for $200 then unlock it your self and use it with a $15 a month medianet unlimited data plan. You could take advantage of at&t's $50 unlimited everything prepaid plan too. You just need to make sure to get a phone which works with att's 3g frequency bands (moto defy/vibrant/i9000/sgs 2/rogers nexus s) but isn't on their system as a recognized smart phone ,(in other words one they don't sell).
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Until Sprint gets rid of their unlimited data plan, I will tolerate them for now.
Jayavarman said:
Until Sprint gets rid of their unlimited data plan, I will tolerate them for now.
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+1 Hopefully they won't go the route of everyone else. If they did I'm going back to a dumb phone because unlimited data is the main reason I have a smartphone.
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My sister is doing an even easier and cheaper trick. Get a t-mobile vibrant or motorola defy for $200 then unlock it your self and use it with a $15 a month medianet unlimited data plan. You could take advantage of at&t's $50 unlimited everything prepaid plan too. You just need to make sure to get a phone which works with att's 3g frequency bands (moto defy/vibrant/i9000/sgs 2/rogers nexus s) but isn't on their system as a recognized smart phone ,(in other words one they don't sell).
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Only problem with this is I don't believe the i9000 or gsII (or any world phone) works on tmo 3g aws bands. Only att plus they'll be att soon...
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yeah Verizon did this test.. and im sure they did it in Verizon areas.. These test are like benchmarks on our phones... yeah its cool to say.. hey I have the fastest internet on my phone.. but truthfully it doesn't mean anything.. I personally use my WIFI for the most part and use my 3g/4g randomly when im bored shopping with my wife.. besides... I have unlimited 3g/4g.. I guess sprint lost bc of that too?
Spring is the new tmobile
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xTmDarren said:
yeah Verizon did this test.. and im sure they did it in Verizon areas.. These test are like benchmarks on our phones... yeah its cool to say.. hey I have the fastest internet on my phone.. but truthfully it doesn't mean anything.. I personally use my WIFI for the most part and use my 3g/4g randomly when im bored shopping with my wife.. besides... I have unlimited 3g/4g.. I guess sprint lost bc of that too?
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I also use wifi most often when I am surfing with my phone. This test was performed by Verizon? I didn't catch that part. Where did you see that?
In the end Sprint will show us that sticking with them meant nothing. As soon as Verizon gets their tiered data underway. Sprint will go that route too, and give us just a little more than ATT and Verizon. They know we will have nowhere else to go! I just wish I had ditched sprint in February when I started too. Verizon 4G is in my area and i'm stuck with slow speeds.
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I also use wifi most often when I am surfing with my phone. This test was performed by Verizon? I didn't catch that part. Where did you see that?
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Well, the whole line is highlighted and there's no source listed so, probably. We still haven't seen any testing method data so I call shenanigans til I see a source named.
That said, my moms droid charge pulls in 16/4 (my home internet is only 12/1.5). But that's 4g and not all their new phones are...
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The test was done by PCMag (http://www.pcmag.com/Fastest-Mobile-Networks-2011)
That being said, my work is a VZW Deadzone, where-as I get at least some Spring signal. I average 9mb/1.5mb down/up on 4G in and around my neighborhood and if my 3G signal can be slower than what is on the chart, its still far faster than anything I need to do daily. If I need more, I'll go 4G/Wifi and be done with it. I abuse the hell outta my unlimited, averaging upwards of 6GB a month data on my phone alone (the wifey also has a Epic on the plan) and I've now thrown a GTab 10.1 into the mix and tether of the phone.
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Well, the whole line is highlighted and there's no source listed so, probably. We still haven't seen any testing method data so I call shenanigans til I see a source named.
That said, my moms droid charge pulls in 16/4 (my home internet is only 12/1.5). But that's 4g and not all their new phones are...
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Undoubtedly there is a correlation between the all-you-can-eat data and the slow speeds - ie burden on the network.

Best phone company?

Which phone company in your opinion is the best with its "unlimited" data plans? I have tmobile and it is fustrating whne they slow my phone down but I heard that verizon is worse! I know sprint is really unlimited but it goes at 3g speeds which is slow compared to the other companies. So in your opinion which is the best???
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Which phone company in your opinion is the best with its "unlimited" data plans? I have tmobile and it is fustrating whne they slow my phone down but I heard that verizon is worse! I know sprint is really unlimited but it goes at 3g speeds which is slow compared to the other companies. So in your opinion which is the best???
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May be better put in an XDA general thread rather than a specific device thread. You're going to find lots of international users and T-mobile users in here so there's going to be a lack of info or a bias towards T-mobile.
As far as the USA goes, T-mobile and Sprint are the only two with unlimited data. AT&T has been on tiered 2GB plans for a long time, and Verizon has tiered as well. So its like this:
Sprint: Unlimited, literally. Use as much 3G/4G as you want
T-mobile: Unlimited to 5GB (if you're grandfathered) or 2GB if you're a new customer. After 5GB (or 2GB, plan depending). You get throttled to EDGE for the rest of the month, but no overages.
AT&T: 2GB cap. Overages for using more for 2GB. Can add another 2GB with a tethering package.
Verizon: Tiers. 2GB, 5GB, 10GB. Overages for using more than your cap.
So unless you like the phones on sprint, T-mobile is your best situation considering you can never get charged overages, just get slowed down. And the cap before you get slowed is higher than the others. Not to mention that a non-contract T-mobile plan is $30 cheaper per month than AT&T or Verizon w/ less data. Of course where you live plays a large factor too. T-mobile is known to have a smaller coverage area, but generally fast speeds when you do have coverage because of the quick HSPA+, and much fewer users per tower.
Sucks, but its the way it is here.
Id like to add to this thread, if u have a wireless router at home turn on your wifi when u r home. I got throttled once and it sucks, ever since then I wifi when at home.
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And if only the carriers here in Canada would actually realise that they are raping customers... maybe we could get great data plans... 35$ just for 1gb and 5$ extra per mb used if I go over... Like REALLY?
It's almost worth having a number from Europe with unlimited everything for 65$....
fluxgfx said:
And if only the carriers here in Canada would actually realise that they are raping customers... maybe we could get great data plans... 35$ just for 1gb and 5$ extra per mb used if I go over... Like REALLY?
It's almost worth having a number from Europe with unlimited everything for 65$....
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Yea I've heard Canadian carriers are horrible on price and features, even worse than the USA In some ways. We're both way behind the rest of the world when it comes to cellphone carriers and competition.
fluxgfx said:
And if only the carriers here in Canada would actually realise that they are raping customers... maybe we could get great data plans... 35$ just for 1gb and 5$ extra per mb used if I go over... Like REALLY?
It's almost worth having a number from Europe with unlimited everything for 65$....
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Geez, man I feel for you bro! How awful!
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As long a your at a place with sprint 4g your good with sprint
Plus tons of paces have wifi so its not much of a problem
Plus sprint usa kind of not as expensive as the other carriers
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Yea to me I do like sprint and tmobile the only problem is the speed that you get from sprint is nowhere near as fast as tmobiles my gf has sprint and my phone is faster than hers even when they slow mine down! That's really slow!
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I think "true" unlimited data is going to soon be extinct. Even Sprint will eventually change their ways. The rise of data-hungry smartphones is a reality on a finite amount of spectrum. Getting throttled is always preferable to overages, and this is why AT&T sucks (among other reasons).
Oh and T-Mobile is going to start overages as well, at least on their lightest data plan. Not sure how many of us Android geeks would start up this kind of plan, but there it is. Source----> http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mobile-changing-200mb-data-plan-away-from-throttling-to-overage/
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Oh and T-Mobile is going to start overages as well, at least on their lightest data plan. Not sure how many of us Android geeks would start up this kind of plan, but there it is. Source----> http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mobile-changing-200mb-data-plan-away-from-throttling-to-overage/
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There was a thread on this the other day. This is only for the 200mb plan, which you wouldn't even want to touch on a smartphone. Its meant for featurephones and super low end android phones.
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May be better put in an XDA general thread rather than a specific device thread. You're going to find lots of international users and T-mobile users in here so there's going to be a lack of info or a bias towards T-mobile.
As far as the USA goes, T-mobile and Sprint are the only two with unlimited data. AT&T has been on tiered 2GB plans for a long time, and Verizon has tiered as well. So its like this:
Sprint: Unlimited, literally. Use as much 3G/4G as you want
T-mobile: Unlimited to 5GB (if you're grandfathered) or 2GB if you're a new customer. After 5GB (or 2GB, plan depending). You get throttled to EDGE for the rest of the month, but no overages.
AT&T: 2GB cap. Overages for using more for 2GB. Can add another 2GB with a tethering package.
Verizon: Tiers. 2GB, 5GB, 10GB. Overages for using more than your cap.
Sucks, but its the way it is here.
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T-mo has a 10gb data package as well now. kind'a expensive IIRC though, I just stuck with my grandfathered 5gb plan... it's never an issue for me and I occasionally stream Netflix via PS3/Wii using wifi tether.
utilize wifi whenever possible and download files to your pc if you're at home/work then transfer them rather than using the phone directly.
I have the 200 mb plan. Rarely go over. I live in an E area. Rarely do i get to a 4G area. I was told when i went with t-mobile after centennial sold out to att that i would have 3 G . NOT. So i uses wifi whenever I can.
That's also a problem I don't have access to wifi neither do I have a home computer so I have to rely on my phones internet for mostly everything and it gets frustrating when my phone is slow
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That's also a problem I don't have access to wifi neither do I have a home computer so I have to rely on my phones internet for mostly everything and it gets frustrating when my phone is slow
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Well that's your own issue. Your phone's 3G connection isn't meant to be used as a home internet connection, and you really can't expect to use it in that way. The days of unlimited, unthrottled 3G are coming to a close, and you really need to think about that.
The prices for data are WAY higher per GB for 3G anyway, and you'd be better off buying a home cable/DSL connection even if you could use 3G unlimited.

[Q] Simple Mobile

I have simple mobile now, its awesome for the price and prepay, plus they boast about bring your own phone, so its good. But i only get 115k download speed when testing with the speedtest.net app. I get 200 - 300k upload. It is not displaying 1x mode, it says, 3G and H when i have it on mobile, not 1x or E.
SO, the question is is this something I'm doing, or not doing, that I get such bad speeds?
Its pretty good for the price, $40/mo. unlimited 3G, $60/mo. for unlimited 4G, but its not available in my area for 4G yet...
Is this a normal speed for this carrier? I used to have att gophone prepay but that sucked. Also... simple mobile is tmobile and to set it up you just have to select the apn from the settings once the sim's unlocked. Its the absolute simplest set up there is. But I just wish i could do better speeds... I'm wondering if this is normal for my phone or what. thanks
I also use Simple Mobile. Their $40 unlimited 3G plan is capped around 120kbps on the download. You'll actually get faster speeds on EDGE. The only way to get actual 3G+ speeds with Simple Mobile is to get the $60 4G plan. I think calling the $40 plan 3G is a scam, but it's still not that bad of a price at $60/month.
thanks for that bit of knowledge. well, looks like i'm going to upgrade then. I will be pleased. Then maybe one day I'll wake up and it will be on 4G.
switched to 2g only, edge, and I'll be darned, its faster. 156kbps, 215 upload. But its kinda sticky, what i mean is it will go 156 then drop off, then pick back up again. But I suppose that this might work. I just want it for jango music app, to stream music while i drive. NICE!
Just would like to add that if your phone displayed H at some point, that means 4G speed is available in your area. Upgrade your plan and never look back lol
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Just would like to add that if your phone displayed H at some point, that means 4G speed is available in your area. Upgrade your plan and never look back lol
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As I'm sure you can understand, I am quite a bit excited!
Now, it has displayed the HSDPA+ icon, (H) and it displays 3G icon. (CM7)
I used to have t-mobile 4G service, but they said it was not available in my area. I never saw a 4G icon, but i used to see H all the time.
Now, I do see an H, and a 3G, they flash back and forth. I seem to remember it staying solid on H and very rarely would I see a 3G icon, but its been a while since I had my tmobile service turned up.
But when i use the net, it does the H icon with both arrows sending and receiving. At any rate, I've decided to go ahead and pay for the $60/mo plan and unlock my speeds. At that price, it just can't be beat. Its so reasonable and they are so pleasant and support you hacking ur own phones. i'm so happy i found these fellaz. I am even signing up with their dealer program.
EDIT: Oh and I just wanted to add that they even have website instructions to change your APN settings... even though they come preloaded and all you have to do is select it from the settings menu. They will even walk you through it. Not sure about if they will help you root and unlock sim, but you can always ask.
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Well, after having simple mobile for the second month, and this is only the first month having the 4g (aka $60 plan).
It caps at 2GB of data then you are limited to 125Kbps max download. I called and they said the limit was 7GB. But I sware to you, same ROM's that worked dropped off the speed and they told me it was my phone... Now this is all normal, but they didnt even troubleshoot me at all, just told me it was my phone, i said it has the same problem with other phones, and my phone works on other sim cards at full speed. (so I guess they think my phone broke in a way where after 2GB it just couldnt get over the 125KBPS mark.)
So i go to look at t-mobile's homepage, cause thats who simple is, and low and behold for $60 you get unlimited all except after 2GB you get 3g Speeds... its all there in month by month plans on t-mobile's website. What a coincidence!!! I was told there was no limits at all any way. WHAT A LIE!
So all simple does is allow you to use a phone that t-mobile might have banned due to bad ESN or IMSI or w/e (serial number) and they get money for reselling t-mo junk.
So you only get 2gb of 4G then you will be limit to 125KBPS not even real 3g. They will lie to you and hang up, no refunds, no credits, no working with you.
They really made me mad how they told me I was downloading too much, they tried to put the blame on me. I asked them how much is too much!? and got real mad at that and they dropped that spiel quick. 2GB is nothing. Especially when you stream music in your car, the whole reason i have the thing. At 125KBPS i cant listen to a song in last.fm without it having to buffer for 5 minutes.... thats 2 songs in one buffer.
So I ended up asking for a credit or refund, they laughed (rude) and said they dont do refunds. I told them my credit card company does disputes. After winning the last 4 disputes against these lying cell companies, and with my proof, I guarantee they will do THIS refund!
I say just get tmobile prepaid. 60$ unlimited everything with 4g speeds up to 2gb and 70$ 4g speeds up to 5gb
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Drzfr3shboialex said:
I say just get tmobile prepaid. 60$ unlimited everything with 4g speeds up to 2gb and 70$ 4g speeds up to 5gb
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thats the problem , t-mobile has 4G limits , then it throttles for the rest of the month , not cool . and i also have simple mobile , i used to only have the $40 3G plan , but i decided to try the 4G , and its DEFFINETLY worth 20 bucks more , in speedtest i get around 4-5 MBps download and i THINK like 1 MBps upload .
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