Which phone company in your opinion is the best with its "unlimited" data plans? I have tmobile and it is fustrating whne they slow my phone down but I heard that verizon is worse! I know sprint is really unlimited but it goes at 3g speeds which is slow compared to the other companies. So in your opinion which is the best???
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tears12345678909 said:
Which phone company in your opinion is the best with its "unlimited" data plans? I have tmobile and it is fustrating whne they slow my phone down but I heard that verizon is worse! I know sprint is really unlimited but it goes at 3g speeds which is slow compared to the other companies. So in your opinion which is the best???
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May be better put in an XDA general thread rather than a specific device thread. You're going to find lots of international users and T-mobile users in here so there's going to be a lack of info or a bias towards T-mobile.
As far as the USA goes, T-mobile and Sprint are the only two with unlimited data. AT&T has been on tiered 2GB plans for a long time, and Verizon has tiered as well. So its like this:
Sprint: Unlimited, literally. Use as much 3G/4G as you want
T-mobile: Unlimited to 5GB (if you're grandfathered) or 2GB if you're a new customer. After 5GB (or 2GB, plan depending). You get throttled to EDGE for the rest of the month, but no overages.
AT&T: 2GB cap. Overages for using more for 2GB. Can add another 2GB with a tethering package.
Verizon: Tiers. 2GB, 5GB, 10GB. Overages for using more than your cap.
So unless you like the phones on sprint, T-mobile is your best situation considering you can never get charged overages, just get slowed down. And the cap before you get slowed is higher than the others. Not to mention that a non-contract T-mobile plan is $30 cheaper per month than AT&T or Verizon w/ less data. Of course where you live plays a large factor too. T-mobile is known to have a smaller coverage area, but generally fast speeds when you do have coverage because of the quick HSPA+, and much fewer users per tower.
Sucks, but its the way it is here.
Id like to add to this thread, if u have a wireless router at home turn on your wifi when u r home. I got throttled once and it sucks, ever since then I wifi when at home.
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And if only the carriers here in Canada would actually realise that they are raping customers... maybe we could get great data plans... 35$ just for 1gb and 5$ extra per mb used if I go over... Like REALLY?
It's almost worth having a number from Europe with unlimited everything for 65$....
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And if only the carriers here in Canada would actually realise that they are raping customers... maybe we could get great data plans... 35$ just for 1gb and 5$ extra per mb used if I go over... Like REALLY?
It's almost worth having a number from Europe with unlimited everything for 65$....
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Yea I've heard Canadian carriers are horrible on price and features, even worse than the USA In some ways. We're both way behind the rest of the world when it comes to cellphone carriers and competition.
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And if only the carriers here in Canada would actually realise that they are raping customers... maybe we could get great data plans... 35$ just for 1gb and 5$ extra per mb used if I go over... Like REALLY?
It's almost worth having a number from Europe with unlimited everything for 65$....
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Geez, man I feel for you bro! How awful!
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As long a your at a place with sprint 4g your good with sprint
Plus tons of paces have wifi so its not much of a problem
Plus sprint usa kind of not as expensive as the other carriers
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Yea to me I do like sprint and tmobile the only problem is the speed that you get from sprint is nowhere near as fast as tmobiles my gf has sprint and my phone is faster than hers even when they slow mine down! That's really slow!
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I think "true" unlimited data is going to soon be extinct. Even Sprint will eventually change their ways. The rise of data-hungry smartphones is a reality on a finite amount of spectrum. Getting throttled is always preferable to overages, and this is why AT&T sucks (among other reasons).
Oh and T-Mobile is going to start overages as well, at least on their lightest data plan. Not sure how many of us Android geeks would start up this kind of plan, but there it is. Source----> http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mobile-changing-200mb-data-plan-away-from-throttling-to-overage/
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Oh and T-Mobile is going to start overages as well, at least on their lightest data plan. Not sure how many of us Android geeks would start up this kind of plan, but there it is. Source----> http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mobile-changing-200mb-data-plan-away-from-throttling-to-overage/
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There was a thread on this the other day. This is only for the 200mb plan, which you wouldn't even want to touch on a smartphone. Its meant for featurephones and super low end android phones.
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May be better put in an XDA general thread rather than a specific device thread. You're going to find lots of international users and T-mobile users in here so there's going to be a lack of info or a bias towards T-mobile.
As far as the USA goes, T-mobile and Sprint are the only two with unlimited data. AT&T has been on tiered 2GB plans for a long time, and Verizon has tiered as well. So its like this:
Sprint: Unlimited, literally. Use as much 3G/4G as you want
T-mobile: Unlimited to 5GB (if you're grandfathered) or 2GB if you're a new customer. After 5GB (or 2GB, plan depending). You get throttled to EDGE for the rest of the month, but no overages.
AT&T: 2GB cap. Overages for using more for 2GB. Can add another 2GB with a tethering package.
Verizon: Tiers. 2GB, 5GB, 10GB. Overages for using more than your cap.
Sucks, but its the way it is here.
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T-mo has a 10gb data package as well now. kind'a expensive IIRC though, I just stuck with my grandfathered 5gb plan... it's never an issue for me and I occasionally stream Netflix via PS3/Wii using wifi tether.
utilize wifi whenever possible and download files to your pc if you're at home/work then transfer them rather than using the phone directly.
I have the 200 mb plan. Rarely go over. I live in an E area. Rarely do i get to a 4G area. I was told when i went with t-mobile after centennial sold out to att that i would have 3 G . NOT. So i uses wifi whenever I can.
That's also a problem I don't have access to wifi neither do I have a home computer so I have to rely on my phones internet for mostly everything and it gets frustrating when my phone is slow
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That's also a problem I don't have access to wifi neither do I have a home computer so I have to rely on my phones internet for mostly everything and it gets frustrating when my phone is slow
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Well that's your own issue. Your phone's 3G connection isn't meant to be used as a home internet connection, and you really can't expect to use it in that way. The days of unlimited, unthrottled 3G are coming to a close, and you really need to think about that.
The prices for data are WAY higher per GB for 3G anyway, and you'd be better off buying a home cable/DSL connection even if you could use 3G unlimited.
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ok, so i work for tmobile and i spoke to the tmobile vice president yesterday when he came in for a visit, and yes its true, the 5 gig limit to data service will be applied, once you go over 5 gig you will be throttled down to edge connection until your following month and also tethering will now be available as a feature which will cost 15 dollars a month, this will all go official real soon, so everyone who has been tethering on the side, sorry
What do you mean by that last line?
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also tethering will now be available as a feature which will cost 15 dollars a month, this will all go official real soon, so everyone who has been tethering on the side, sorry
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This is worse news for me by far. I tether only now-and-then, but I do use it, and I'd hate to have to pay extra for the few times I do...even though, yes, other carriers currently charge.
This sucks! Well they are a business so I understand them charging for tethering but changing the cap to 5gb is pointless since tethering requires 15 bucks a month extra...
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I wonder if this applies to nexus one owners. I have had tethering for months on my nexus one have never neared the data cap. Why would I start paying monthly for a feature that I can get for free on my nexus one or for a 1 time fee from the app market for my G2?
Pretty sure that when I signed up for service, I signed up for unlimited data and when I bought my phone, it advertised HSPA+ speeds. So if my phone can only do HSPA+ speeds for a while and T-Mobile wants to try to act like the internet is a depleteable resource. I will be returning my phone and cancelling all of my family's lines and finding a new carrier.
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and T-Mobile wants to try to act like the internet is a depleteable resource.
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Air interface bandwidth is [a limited resource].
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Pretty sure that when I signed up for service, I signed up for unlimited data and when I bought my phone, it advertised HSPA+ speeds. So if my phone can only do HSPA+ speeds for a while and T-Mobile wants to try to act like the internet is a depleteable resource. I will be returning my phone and cancelling all of my family's lines and finding a new carrier.
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Any of those carriers you switch to will have an even more expensive tethering fee. Best thing to do at this point is to root. I use my nexus when I want to wifi tether.
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Pretty sure that when I signed up for service, I signed up for unlimited data and when I bought my phone, it advertised HSPA+ speeds. So if my phone can only do HSPA+ speeds for a while and T-Mobile wants to try to act like the internet is a depleteable resource. I will be returning my phone and cancelling all of my family's lines and finding a new carrier.
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It sounds good and all but be sure to compare. Tmobile has a "fair" usage clause. They base what is fair usage on what the average data usage across the network is or something very similar to that. They never charge more for going over the cap, they just slow you down.
I'm guessing that they will make the tethering official and roll out the OTA at the same time.
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The majority of smartphone users likely don't crest 5GB usage. Those who do continue to have unlimited access at a slower speed. If this is unacceptable to them, they are free to terminate their accounts. As a moderate dataplan user, I'm perfectly fine with that, since in an unlimited scheme, moderate users are basically subsidizing the few outlier heavy users.
I was fine with the 5gb reduction too but charging another 15/month on the "unlimited data" plan to tether? 45/month seems excessive. Need some new perspective.
the cap is for web connect data plans, not for the unlimited plans connected to cell phones
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The majority of smartphone users likely don't crest 5GB usage. Those who do continue to have unlimited access at a slower speed. If this is unacceptable to them, they are free to terminate their accounts. As a moderate dataplan user, I'm perfectly fine with that, since in an unlimited scheme, moderate users are basically subsidizing the few outlier heavy users.
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You do realize that once there are no more heavy outliers, you become the heavy outlier. When T-Mobile lowers the cap again to below your data usage, I guarantee you'll be the first to complain.
What? Tethering won't be free? Sad face...
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How are they gonna block stuff like PDAnet from being used? heck Id rather pay for their full version than to pay a monthly fee for 2 years..
Iphone tethering is only 10$.. I dont beleive it til i see it. Im thinking it will be free but just capped at 5gb before they throttle to stop people from abusing it
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ok, so i work for tmobile and i spoke to the tmobile vice president yesterday when he came in for a visit, and yes its true, the 5 gig limit to data service will be applied, once you go over 5 gig you will be throttled down to edge connection until your following month and also tethering will now be available as a feature which will cost 15 dollars a month, this will all go official real soon, so everyone who has been tethering on the side, sorry
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are you saying the 5GB cap will apply to customers on contract (and grandfathered customers free of contract) as well as prepaid customers? - the way that news release is worded, it appears to only apply or refer to prepaid customers.
any clairification appreciated
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You do realize that once there are no more heavy outliers, you become the heavy outlier. When T-Mobile lowers the cap again to below your data usage, I guarantee you'll be the first to complain.
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There will always be heavy outliers in a chart of users (whether in 1990, 2010 or 2100). The important question is whether the bar is above or below the average. Realistically speaking the bulk of those exceeding 5GB are probably tethering (I don't actually agree that tethering should be separate from the phone access, but that's a different discussion), so with the $15 tethering fee it might move the curve back even further under 5GB.
Well, I just checked my month use on t-mobile's website and looks like i only used 1.7 GB for the whole month. Not bad since most of my heavy downloading is done through my residential internet connection anyways. I don't think that I'll ever reach 5GB..
I'm not worried.
Can they just knock us off from a 10gig soft cap to a 5gig? Isn't there a grandfather clause kinda thing?
Besides, how would they know if i tether using pdanet. My data usage doesn't reflect how its being used.
So I called T-Mobile today because they have promotional 4G rate plans right now. And I gave T-Mobile my IEMI number and according to their systems the nexus one qualify for the upgrade to their 4G network. I upgraded to it for an additional $5 dollars a month. Now to my knowledge the nexus one was not built to handle 4G band speeds but I did notice a major speed boost on my device. Maybe not a full 4G experience but definitely feels like my 3G is on steroids. Btw I'm on the EVEN MORE PLUS PLAN.
That would be awesome...I thought you would need a new radio to get it. What radio version are you using? Anyhow, do post up some Speedtest results!
i was wondering about this because HSPA+ is just a newer version of what Tmo 3G phones use, afaik there is no change in the bands they use to communicate and it really should just be as simple as flashing a new radio to a phone to get it to be HSPA+ (aka 3.5G aka T-mobile 4G)
now i doubt that a provider will be willing to update their current phones because they want you to buy a new phone that is "for their 4G" network. its possible though that the Korean radios that have leaked may have this support in them and might explain why your seeing a speed increase.
something else you can do is go into settings>about phone>status> check mobile network type to see if it says HSDPA or HSPA+
there is also another more advanced screen that you can check but i forgot the silly #*#* code you put into access it but i know if you install the app anycut you can make a shortcut to the screen as well
with anycut just make a shortcut for "phone info" to pull up the more advanced screen.
I'm getting 2.87MBps down, and 1.30MBps up. And no I didn't do any radio update. I just told the T-Mobile I wanna switch over to 4G and they said ok and switched me over for an extra five dollars a month.
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look @ my sig, no 4G and i got better speeds
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I'm getting 2.87MBps down, and 1.30MBps up. And no I didn't do any radio update. I just told the T-Mobile I wanna switch over to 4G and they said ok and switched me over for an extra five dollars a month.
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that's not HSPA+ speeds, HSPA+ speed varies from the same as HSDPA to twice as fast.
http://www.tested.com/forums/phones/4/tested-t-mobiles-hspa-network-vs-traditional-3g/3943/
in this test the N1 maxed out at 2.41MBit down and the G2 never went under 3.32Mbit down and topped out at 8.16Mbit down.
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look @ my sig, no 4G and i got better speeds
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that is very good for 3G but uncommon and probably about as fast as you will ever see on HSDPA.
here in the east SF Bay area i usually get about 1.0 Mbit down on my N1 on T-mobile but the speed i see varies and depends highly on local network traffic and what my signal strength is at
Keep in mind that I'm in the subberbs
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Check the specs, n1 will only Max at 7.2 dl 2.0 ul, anything higher is bull
http://www.htc.com/www/product/nexusone/specification.html
N1 here and I had the original data plan that cost 24.99/mo. Old family plan I had for ages since I had the SE Xperia X1, which I still have but do not use .
I have the 3G+ speeds ever since I started using the CM roms, but I never "upgraded" the data plan for faster speed.
How much were you paying beforehand if I may ask? And was it a data plan as well?
I don't think the Nexus can handle the same speeds as the G2 or the new Mytouch 4G.
At work someone has the Mytouch 4G and we did speed test with both phone, mine is on the latest Korean radio and he's download speed was always double than my Nexus.
So again I don't think is possible.
Never claimed to be on HSPA+
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Never claimed to be on HSPA+
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I didn't implied you lie, what I say is they are wrong, and it's sad because I'd love to have 4G in the nexus.
I dont really understand 3g and 4g speeds, but isnt the latency more important? I dont think 3mb vs 10mb will make a huge difference on a phone, it doesnt on my desktop connection, but isnt the biggest hurdle the time to actually get the network to connect to the internet? From what i have noticed, the first website you access takes alot longer than the subsequent sites.
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I dont really understand 3g and 4g speeds, but isnt the latency more important? I dont think 3mb vs 10mb will make a huge difference on a phone, it doesnt on my desktop connection, but isnt the biggest hurdle the time to actually get the network to connect to the internet? From what i have noticed, the first website you access takes alot longer than the subsequent sites.
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Depends on your usage...if you download files, then speed DOES matter, MUCH more than latency. If you simply browse, you do need a MINIMUM speed, but then latency is mucchhhh more important. I would consider 5mb a minimum speed for good browsing.
On computers, you CAN use faster speeds to access the pages faster by using pipelining...dun think phones have support for that though
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So I called T-Mobile today because they have promotional 4G rate plans right now. And I gave T-Mobile my IEMI number and according to their systems the nexus one qualify for the upgrade to their 4G network. I upgraded to it for an additional $5 dollars a month. Now to my knowledge the nexus one was not built to handle 4G band speeds but I did notice a major speed boost on my device. Maybe not a full 4G experience but definitely feels like my 3G is on steroids. Btw I'm on the EVEN MORE PLUS PLAN.
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Call them back and get back on the $20 preferred Android Internet plan. They misinformed you. The data plan you are on does not determine the data speed you see. There are a ton of people on HowardForums with old grandfathered $5.99 T-Zones plans and $9.99 web2go data plans getting faster speeds then what you are seeing.
You are wasting your money with any plan more expensive then the $20 preferred Android Internet plan and if you can get on a cheaper one it will work exactly the same.
It's very possible that T-mobile is throttling accounts now that they can offer faster overall speeds.
It could be a (****ty-consumer wise) way to exploit the 4g (mis)nomer.
I can tell you this I am a T-mobile RSA and I am not sure what the extra $5 amonth the guy did but there is no 4g data plan. Every Android data plan i use in the store is the same plan I give ppl on every android phone T-Mobile sells. There is no 3G or 4G plan. Every plan is the same unless you are looking at the 200mb, 2gb, unlimited plan. I would say call 611 and tell them to change it back and run speed test again. T-Mobile in the soon to be future is moving to a 3 tier data plan. By this I mean they are going to let you pick a 200mb, 2gb, and unlimited data rate plan. Every plan is going to have the same speeds but limit you to what you can download before you are throttled or start to see overages. Call and get your money back.
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I can tell you this I am a T-mobile RSA and I am not sure what the extra $5 amonth the guy did but there is no 4g data plan. Every Android data plan i use in the store is the same plan I give ppl on every android phone T-Mobile sells. There is no 3G or 4G plan. Every plan is the same unless you are looking at the 200mb, 2gb, unlimited plan. I would say call 611 and tell them to change it back and run speed test again. T-Mobile in the soon to be future is moving to a 3 tier data plan. By this I mean they are going to let you pick a 200mb, 2gb, and unlimited data rate plan. Every plan is going to have the same speeds but limit you to what you can download before you are throttled or start to see overages. Call and get your money back.
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Same thing he said. I'm a TMobile CSR and whoever you were speaking with was trying to get a 5.00 bump on there add ons. No difference between EDGE data plans/3G data plan/4G(HSPA+) data plans. People that use the Iphone on our network pay the same 25 or 30 that people do that have 3G devices.
OP is a car salesman dream customer. "Would you like extended warranty?"
I'm in canada on rogers "hsdpa+, hspa, 4g, etc" and at peak hours I get 2.95 down and 1.2 up and have had up to 5.65 down 1.4 up
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Sprint has proven once again that their Network vision upgrade needs to have happened yesterday. These results show not only that sprint's network is struggling in some areas but MOST areas.
They only managed a 480kbps average EV-DO (3G) speed, the slowest speed tested. Their 4g and 3g networks were also some of the least reliable networks tested.
Get the picture Sprint. We need a real 4g network on a real spectrum. A 2500mhz Wimax network spottily thrown together isn't going to cut it, neither is 10 year old backhaul. It's make or break time Sprint.
Are we looking at the same chart?
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All I care about is if I get good reception.
And I don't.
Should have come to Baton Rouge. They would have scored 0.05 megabit on the speedtest all day long!
The old adage holds true, you get what you pay for..
Well, first I'd like to mention these stats offer no souce or details on how/where and how many times these figures were tested, which I usually like to see (I'm the skeptical type)
That being said, I agree. I'm lucky to be in Chicago, pretty decent 4g and 3g coverage, but 3g's been slowing down more and more and it shows in many places. They need to pick it up on 3g (their main network). No reason for a tower to only offer 1.2 (1 T1 line minus 300kbps for sprint control) even at 4am on a Tuesday in the suburbs, when Verizons almost always 2mpbs or more with full bars on 3g (and has been for years), same network technology. Its data speeds on 3g I've never been quite happy with.
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makes me miss verizon =[
Ya know, they all suck right now. Verizon's going metered and is cdma (less support), T-mobile's going to get eaten by AT&T because our government can't do the only thing it's supposed to do while it's busy doing everything it isn't supposed to do, Sprint is suffering 3g data slowdown, and again is cdma which means less support.
I've been toying with an idea lately to get the World version GSII, do the iphone trick (get an att sim card with basic voice, pop that in a 2g orig iphone to get on the edge data plan which is ONLY available as unlimited, pop that in a 3g iphone to get auto-upgraded to the $30, grandfathered unlimited data plan) and use it on AT&T with unlimited data. The ONLY issue I have with this (as I'd have my unlimited data, GV for sms) is I'd be paying money to a truly terrible entity (AT&T) and I sincerely morally object to everything they're doing. And yet it would mean a much much larger community...
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makes me miss verizon =[
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I know someone who says they can see their data speeds die on Verizon with evry new phone launch. Especially the 4g signal.
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Ya know, they all suck right now. Verizon's going metered and is cdma (less support), T-mobile's going to get eaten by AT&T because our government can't do the only thing it's supposed to do while it's busy doing everything it isn't supposed to do, Sprint is suffering 3g data slowdown, and again is cdma which means less support.
I've been toying with an idea lately to get the World version GSII, do the iphone trick (get an att sim card with basic voice, pop that in a 2g orig iphone to get on the edge data plan which is ONLY available as unlimited, pop that in a 3g iphone to get auto-upgraded to the $30, grandfathered unlimited data plan) and use it on AT&T with unlimited data. The ONLY issue I have with this (as I'd have my unlimited data, GV for sms) is I'd be paying money to a truly terrible entity (AT&T) and I sincerely morally object to everything they're doing. And yet it would mean a much much larger community...
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My sister is doing an even easier and cheaper trick. Get a t-mobile vibrant or motorola defy for $200 then unlock it your self and use it with a $15 a month medianet unlimited data plan. You could take advantage of at&t's $50 unlimited everything prepaid plan too. You just need to make sure to get a phone which works with att's 3g frequency bands (moto defy/vibrant/i9000/sgs 2/rogers nexus s) but isn't on their system as a recognized smart phone ,(in other words one they don't sell).
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Until Sprint gets rid of their unlimited data plan, I will tolerate them for now.
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Until Sprint gets rid of their unlimited data plan, I will tolerate them for now.
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+1 Hopefully they won't go the route of everyone else. If they did I'm going back to a dumb phone because unlimited data is the main reason I have a smartphone.
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My sister is doing an even easier and cheaper trick. Get a t-mobile vibrant or motorola defy for $200 then unlock it your self and use it with a $15 a month medianet unlimited data plan. You could take advantage of at&t's $50 unlimited everything prepaid plan too. You just need to make sure to get a phone which works with att's 3g frequency bands (moto defy/vibrant/i9000/sgs 2/rogers nexus s) but isn't on their system as a recognized smart phone ,(in other words one they don't sell).
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Only problem with this is I don't believe the i9000 or gsII (or any world phone) works on tmo 3g aws bands. Only att plus they'll be att soon...
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yeah Verizon did this test.. and im sure they did it in Verizon areas.. These test are like benchmarks on our phones... yeah its cool to say.. hey I have the fastest internet on my phone.. but truthfully it doesn't mean anything.. I personally use my WIFI for the most part and use my 3g/4g randomly when im bored shopping with my wife.. besides... I have unlimited 3g/4g.. I guess sprint lost bc of that too?
Spring is the new tmobile
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yeah Verizon did this test.. and im sure they did it in Verizon areas.. These test are like benchmarks on our phones... yeah its cool to say.. hey I have the fastest internet on my phone.. but truthfully it doesn't mean anything.. I personally use my WIFI for the most part and use my 3g/4g randomly when im bored shopping with my wife.. besides... I have unlimited 3g/4g.. I guess sprint lost bc of that too?
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I also use wifi most often when I am surfing with my phone. This test was performed by Verizon? I didn't catch that part. Where did you see that?
In the end Sprint will show us that sticking with them meant nothing. As soon as Verizon gets their tiered data underway. Sprint will go that route too, and give us just a little more than ATT and Verizon. They know we will have nowhere else to go! I just wish I had ditched sprint in February when I started too. Verizon 4G is in my area and i'm stuck with slow speeds.
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I also use wifi most often when I am surfing with my phone. This test was performed by Verizon? I didn't catch that part. Where did you see that?
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Well, the whole line is highlighted and there's no source listed so, probably. We still haven't seen any testing method data so I call shenanigans til I see a source named.
That said, my moms droid charge pulls in 16/4 (my home internet is only 12/1.5). But that's 4g and not all their new phones are...
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The test was done by PCMag (http://www.pcmag.com/Fastest-Mobile-Networks-2011)
That being said, my work is a VZW Deadzone, where-as I get at least some Spring signal. I average 9mb/1.5mb down/up on 4G in and around my neighborhood and if my 3G signal can be slower than what is on the chart, its still far faster than anything I need to do daily. If I need more, I'll go 4G/Wifi and be done with it. I abuse the hell outta my unlimited, averaging upwards of 6GB a month data on my phone alone (the wifey also has a Epic on the plan) and I've now thrown a GTab 10.1 into the mix and tether of the phone.
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Well, the whole line is highlighted and there's no source listed so, probably. We still haven't seen any testing method data so I call shenanigans til I see a source named.
That said, my moms droid charge pulls in 16/4 (my home internet is only 12/1.5). But that's 4g and not all their new phones are...
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Undoubtedly there is a correlation between the all-you-can-eat data and the slow speeds - ie burden on the network.
Thinking of jumping ship to tmobile since 4G has never been offered in my area for Sprint. Also the pricing is a little better than Sprint? However outside of my area service is non-existent unless I force my phone into roaming? I like the data plan Sprint has but believe Sprint will change there data plan in the coming months. With that I will be grandfathered in until my contract ends. So if someone could tell me if they have trouble with data and signal or if it is great, or what they have to do get signal since tmobile is gsm instead of cdma?
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Thinking of jumping ship to tmobile since 4G has never been offered in my area for Sprint. Also the pricing is a little better than Sprint? However outside of my area service is non-existent unless I force my phone into roaming? I like the data plan Sprint has but believe Sprint will change there data plan in the coming months. With that I will be grandfathered in until my contract ends. So if someone could tell me if they have trouble with data and signal or if it is great, or what they have to do get signal since tmobile is gsm instead of cdma?
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What?!?!
I'm not sure what you are asking. Not knowing where you are at, generally speaking if you have good sprint signal you would have good t-mobile signal. If you do not have good sprint signal, you may have just as poor t-mobile signal as their tower footprints are similar. If you live out from a city or something, AT&T or most especially Verizon have much larger footprints.
Do you mean they have a better price but for less services? Like not having unlimited texting or something? I thought Sprint had the best price.
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Do you mean they have a better price but for less services? Like not having unlimited texting or something? I thought Sprint had the best price.
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I believe the pricing is very similar, but you get speed cut back on data once you go over the limit of your specific plan. Sprint data on thier network is not throttled or limited.
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What?!?!
I'm not sure what you are asking. Not knowing where you are at, generally speaking if you have good sprint signal you would have good t-mobile signal. If you do not have good sprint signal, you may have just as poor t-mobile signal as their tower footprints are similar. If you live out from a city or something, AT&T or most especially Verizon have much larger footprints.
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Sprint and Tmobile have very good signal in my area. However No 4G for Sprint, but 4G for Tmobile is here. Once you leave my city since I travel outside it for work alot the signal fades. I then use "ROAM Control" to force into to roam mode. I need to know is there a way to force Roaming on the Nexus S or any other phone on the TMobile network?
US Cellular is very good in the rural areas but it is CDMA and the pricing is quite a bit higher.
Well TMobile post paid plans are better, I think for 45 dollars you get, one hundred mins, unlimited texts, and five gbs of data
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I believe the pricing is very similar, but you get speed cut back on data once you go over the limit of your specific plan. Sprint data on thier network is not throttled or limited.
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Thanks for your info. It will not bother too much since I dont use over 2 GB a month.
BrianDigital said:
Well TMobile post paid plans are better, I think for 45 dollars you get, one hundred mins, unlimited texts, and five gbs of data
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T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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What are the limitations of your plan, and the cost outright for the phone?
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T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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That's what I meant do you have any trouble getting phones to work, or is it as simple as popping the Sim in, I'm really thinking about jumping ship I'm getting sick of paying 80ISH dollars a month
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Sprint and Tmobile have very good signal in my area. However No 4G for Sprint, but 4G for Tmobile is here. Once you leave my city since I travel outside it for work alot the signal fades. I then use "ROAM Control" to force into to roam mode. I need to know is there a way to force Roaming on the Nexus S or any other phone on the TMobile network?
US Cellular is very good in the rural areas but it is CDMA and the pricing is quite a bit higher.
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Sprint is CDMA and T-Mobile is GSM, the phones are not interchangable on each other's network. You would have to get a GSM phone, and it would have to have T-Mobile specific frequencies for HSPDA+ (Their "4G" which is 1700mhz, different that AT&T's 1900mhz) in order to get 4G speeds.
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What are the limitations of your plan, and the cost outright for the phone?
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That's what I meant do you have any trouble getting phones to work, or is it as simple as popping the Sim in, I'm really thinking about jumping ship I'm getting sick of paying 80ISH dollars a month
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I bought my phone (i9020T) used for around 200, but you can still find new ones around on the internet for I think around 400-500 USD maybe cheaper if you can find a good deal. The i9023 (the SLCD screen) is usually cheaper. I found some online for around 300 - 350 USD. Both the i9023 and the i9020T will work with 3G on T-Mobile's network. The data speeds I get are quite good as well. Some places I'll get as much as 5 megs down but the norm is usually around 3 to 4 for me. There are no limitation with the plan really that I can think of. I mean the only thing is that you only get 100 minutes but I've bought Groove IP (VOIP app in the Play Store) so essentially I have unlimited minutes now as well. Only paying $30 a month.
All you have to do is get a T-Mobile prepaid sim from the website and pop it in the phone and you're good to go.
I did exact as user above, $30 and then Groove IP. For my location T-Mobile is vastly faster, but you have to check your location coverage. In big cities Sprint can be fast. Since their phone is CDMA they don't use SIM so their phones goes for slighty lower value. You can get Sprint Nexus S cheaper than GSM version.
Check here for some prepaid plans: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21604722&postcount=2
I hope this doesn't seem like an ass move but, but I have a Nexus S t-mobile for sale.
I can't wait my etc goes down to a hundred in a month, I'm debating just going galaxy nexus or HTC one x, either one that's for sale at best buy and use that buy back plan which my girl didbwith her new iPhone 4s she's been guarenteed 400 bucks before six months, it almost worth it to be a phone whore
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I like the Pre-Paid Montly plans in T-Mobile.
$30 100 mins/UL SMS/ 5GB 4G data Walmart and online?
$30 1500 min-SMS /30Mb
$50 UL min/UL SMS/ UL Data(1st 100 mb at 4G)
$60 UL /UL /UL Data (1st 2GB 4G)
I use the $50, You can change every month to any of the plans.
Tip :If you buy the Card in Calling Mart $100 goes for $95 no tax charged.
So if you pick the $50 it would be like paying around 44+Tax in a post paid (Yes $44 for an unlimited everything).
About Signal, I don't have problems, ATT is a little better(3G+) but much more expensive.
Now I don't like Sprint or Verizon because I like the flexibility of having a GSM unlocked phone.
So I find out today that I haven't really been using "america's fastest 4g network". Apparently my old Basic Android data plan or whatever it's called, doesn't give me full 4g speed. I've only been getting HALF of what I could be getting. This wouldn't bother me so much if I wasn't paying $30 bucks a month for this when the 2gb unlimited plan (I know, sounds funny, huh? 2gb UNLIMITED) is only $20. Even when I purchased my GS3, no one told me, "Hey, you know, you're not getting the full advantage of the speeds your phone is capable of." I guess they'd rather I spend the extra $10 a month and use less bandwidth at the same time. Why not, huh?
So my question is two-fold. First, is it possible those of you who claim to get sloooow dl's ALSO are on this old data plan and THAT's why it's so slow for them? And second, why didn't anyone tell me the whole time I had to deal with these schmucks for the last two weeks, that I needed a different data plan to achieve the full potential of the phone? Why don't they advise people with this older data plan that the speeds are not the same as the newer plans? They definitely never advertised the new plans as being faster than the older one's so how the hell was I ever supposed to know?
Have you ran a speed test? If not get the app from the play store and then go into the T-Mobile store and ask them what is up.
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So I find out today that I haven't really been using "america's fastest 4g network". Apparently my old Basic Android data plan or whatever it's called, doesn't give me full 4g speed. I've only been getting HALF of what I could be getting. This wouldn't bother me so much if I wasn't paying $30 bucks a month for this when the 2gb unlimited plan (I know, sounds funny, huh? 2gb UNLIMITED) is only $20. Even when I purchased my GS3, no one told me, "Hey, you know, you're not getting the full advantage of the speeds your phone is capable of." I guess they'd rather I spend the extra $10 a month and use less bandwidth at the same time. Why not, huh?
So my question is two-fold. First, is it possible those of you who claim to get sloooow dl's ALSO are on this old data plan and THAT's why it's so slow for them? And second, why didn't anyone tell me the whole time I had to deal with these schmucks for the last two weeks, that I needed a different data plan to achieve the full potential of the phone? Why don't they advise people with this older data plan that the speeds are not the same as the newer plans? They definitely never advertised the new plans as being faster than the older one's so how the hell was I ever supposed to know?
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Speeds are fine over here
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cincygeek said:
Have you ran a speed test? If not get the app from the play store and then go into the T-Mobile store and ask them what is up.
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Of course I did, how else do you think I know? I've already asked and been told that my plan doesn't support the speeds. I was getting the exact same speeds in multiple places, as I did with my Sensation so I know this is true. I did change my plan, but apparently, it won't take effect until my next billing cycle, which seems stupid to me but whatever. I just don't understand why they've never tried to push a better, possibly more expensive, data plan?
Snook321 said:
Speeds are fine over here
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What data plan do you have?
I'm using T-Mo's old Android data plan and i'm getting Faux G speeds of 7-13Mbs. You don't need to upgrade your plan to get faster speeds. I do believe they have to provision the device for use of their 42Mb service but that should have been done when they activated your new sim card. Do you know which plan you had before?
tony yayo said:
So I find out today that I haven't really been using "america's fastest 4g network". Apparently my old Basic Android data plan or whatever it's called, doesn't give me full 4g speed. I've only been getting HALF of what I could be getting. This wouldn't bother me so much if I wasn't paying $30 bucks a month for this when the 2gb unlimited plan (I know, sounds funny, huh? 2gb UNLIMITED) is only $20. Even when I purchased my GS3, no one told me, "Hey, you know, you're not getting the full advantage of the speeds your phone is capable of." I guess they'd rather I spend the extra $10 a month and use less bandwidth at the same time. Why not, huh?
So my question is two-fold. First, is it possible those of you who claim to get sloooow dl's ALSO are on this old data plan and THAT's why it's so slow for them? And second, why didn't anyone tell me the whole time I had to deal with these schmucks for the last two weeks, that I needed a different data plan to achieve the full potential of the phone? Why don't they advise people with this older data plan that the speeds are not the same as the newer plans? They definitely never advertised the new plans as being faster than the older one's so how the hell was I ever supposed to know?
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T-Mobile's enhanced backhaul 3G service isn't that much faster in real use than normal 3G. Important to realize Tmobile doesn't have a 4G network, just an enhanced 3G one.
I have a Dell Streak 7 (cell now turned off) that barely outpaced their normal 3G.
Are you in a 4g area? Home isn't for me but work is... big difference between the 2
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What data plan do you have?
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Preferred Android Plan... they changed it from my old G1 plan. Grandfathered
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Depending on where you live (how far away from the nearest tower) your reception is going to be impacted differently than others. I myself live in Arlington Heights which is about 25-30 minute outside of Chicago.
Here's what I get on T-Mobile with my GS3. Speeds for me are perfect. Remember T-Mobile doesn't have true LTE 4G. They use HSPA+ which is like 3.5G.
A few people in chicago area in this thread posted their speed test and seem to have decent results..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734739&highlight=your+carrier+speed+test
Speeds are fine in central texas
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1SiK1500 said:
A few people in chicago area in this thread posted their speed test and seem to have decent results..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734739&highlight=your+carrier+speed+test
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I'm in Arlington Heights as well. I don't get more than 10Mbps. Hmm..
And I had the old grandfathered data plan also.
Still being told I need the newer plan for faster speeds. Got my grandfathered plan reinstated for now until I figure out the deal. Just in case.
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Still being told I need the newer plan for faster speeds. Got my grandfathered plan reinstated for now until I figure out the deal. Just in case.
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Weird.. I have Classic Unlimited Talk/Text for $59 and then 2GB of data for $20.
Have you tried the network boost apps from market? I tried this one and it has increased my 4G speeds at home which was poor before.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.freshnetwork
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LuRock said:
Have you tried the network boost apps from market? I tried this one and it has increased my 4G speeds at home which was poor before.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.freshnetwork
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I've been curious on apps like that. Is it just a placebo app or does it actually work? Is there any scientific proof to back this app up?
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Weird.. I have Classic Unlimited Talk/Text for $59 and then 2GB of data for $20.
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Yeah, you have the plan they say I need. That or the 5gb plan, but I have the old $30 data plan that i guess has the 5gb threshold. One of the mods in the TMO forum told me my plan is fine. So why you are getting double the speeds I'm getting, in the same exact town? So I ended up calling tech support and she tried to do something but I swear whatever she did, my speeds are actually a tad slower now.
So i guess its just a bad signal at home. I live by Johnnies Beef and get terrible speeds. Went to Olive Garden by Woodfield mall last night and was pullin in over 20mbps. Crazy how a couple miles makes such a huge difference.
Hold on. When you upgraded your phone, did they require you to upgrade your plan also? I hardly use over 2gb a month and I'd like to keep it that way, not some gimmick 5gb for $30
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