is it possible to use the Evo with 3g connection only. because i do not have 4g in my area
My understanding is that Sprint won't allow you to buy it without the $10 added.
But some people have called customer support and the reps were saying if they didn't have it in their area, then they wouldn't have to pay for it? But they could be wrong here since Sprint's announcement was fairly clear on that requirement. They are pushing hard for their 4G service and it makes sense since they invested in it.
bron019 said:
is it possible to use the Evo with 3g connection only. because i do not have 4g in my area
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As stated numerous times in the past, the phone allows you to either chose to search 4G networks, and if no connectivity, connect to a 3G network.. OR... Select it to use only a 3G connection.
The Evo will work fine in a 3G network.
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My understanding is that Sprint won't allow you to buy it without the $10 added.
But some people have called customer support and the reps were saying if they didn't have it in their area, then they wouldn't have to pay for it? But they could be wrong here since Sprint's announcement was fairly clear on that requirement. They are pushing hard for their 4G service and it makes sense since they invested in it.
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At this current time, you will pay +$10 a month for having an Evo activated on your account (4G or not). What they're saying is because this device will constantly be pulling data, you'll need to pay extra for that data... It's they're way of weaseling out of saying, "you'll be paying for WiMAX"..
However, with your $10, the 3G cap on data will be moved from 5Gb to unlimited.
I'm almost positive that the 5GB data cap on 3G access remains in place. So you get unlimited 4G but you're still stuck at 5GB access through 3G. The plan details I've seen show the 5GB limit for 3G AND show no cap on 4G.
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I'm almost positive that the 5GB data cap on 3G access remains in place. So you get unlimited 4G but you're still stuck at 5GB access through 3G. The plan details I've seen show the 5GB limit for 3G AND show no cap on 4G.
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The 5GB cap stays in place for some of Sprint's 3G services. With the +$10, you are allowed unlimited 4G/3G.
So basically, they allow you to go over 5GB, except for: X, Y, and Z (etc)
So, what are the excluded services from the 5G limit?
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So basically, they allow you to go over 5GB, except for: X, Y, and Z (etc)
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Asking the obvious question, or maybe not so obvious. What are those "except for X, Y, and Z (etc)" services?
Anyone have a breakdown or a link (straight from the horse's mouth as it were) to verify this?
Wait, so there's a 5GB/mo. cap on EVDO rev.A data (3G) on the EVO??
My Hero doesn't have that now.. why would they start a cap? I use ~20GB a month at least.
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Wait, so there's a 5GB/mo. cap on EVDO rev.A data (3G) on the EVO??
My Hero doesn't have that now.. why would they start a cap? I use ~20GB a month at least.
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You should be getting overage charges then or you are a liar.
you know, people keep saying there is a 5gb cap on 3g data right now on an everthing plan, but the only thing I've seen the 5gb cap referred to with is the overdrive and other data-only plans. I've never seen in writing any cap on 3g data with the everything data or everything plans. I think this is a misconception, but let's get a link to show it.
One thing to be aware of is this. One of the tech sites that tested the EVO said that if you're in an area without 4g coverage then you'll want to make sure you turn the service off on the phone or it will drain your battery fast.
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You should be getting overage charges then or you are a liar.
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All of my lines have unlimited 3g, including the 4 aircards that we have. We are on a business account, though. I think that is the difference.
If you go get a new regular account now, you are likely limited to 5GB/month on phones or aircards. If you are on an old plan or a business account, you might have unlimited.
http://shop.sprint.com/en/shop/why_sprint/4g/evo_plan_details.html (Click Speeds Tab)
5GB data cap on 3G & 3G plans have a limit of 300Mb roaming usage.
Is this strictly enforced & if so how so (as no 4G in my & so many markets)?
P.S. - Will AT&T's recent move to 2GB caps signal coming changes for Sprint & other US carriers & will Sprint be building out more Wi-Fi hotspots like AT&T?
5g cap is generally for wireless cards.
the roaming, is something sprint will act on. if over 3 months of excessive data roaming they will contact you. atleast 3 attempts over the course of a couple months and they will shut you off. as it is against their eua/t&c's.
also remember, without 4g, your phone will operate on 3g. this does not mean you are roaming. just not able to use the fancy speeds as other users. this is if your are roaming off of 3g. you cannot roam off of 4g at this time.
the 5g cap is for the cheaper plan on the wireless cards.... there is no cap for phones 3g or 4g u have nothing to worry about man
att is the only greedy one
He's right, this is applicable to DATA CARDS ONLY. Doesn't apply to phones no matter how you look at it (data cap). If you roam like crazy, which normal people wouldn't because since Sprint has no standing data agreement with Verizon, your data speed will be so slow you're guaranteed to stop until you get back in coverage, then you may want to make sure you check your mail. Sprint notifies you then terminates you 8 months later with no ETF. Simple. Use the heck out of your phone.
Is there any cell phone network that doesn't have the 5 gig Cap. I am not too happy about t mobile capping my phone. And slowing down my phone substantially after I go over my 5 gig limit
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even if u unlock the phone, it wont work on other providers. or the 3g/4g wont anyway. u can get unlimited edge on other networks im sure, if thats your thing.
Here's what I'm wondering. I have 2 plans. An original plan that I got with my black berry and I got the 30 dollar web plan. I then upgraded to the g1 and used the same data plan and still have this data plan. Now I started another line to get my g2. That one I signed up as a data only plan cus I don't need 2 phone lines just wanted a g2 and had no upgrade. Now the onlyy data plan that I could use to sign up my g2 was like 50 dpllars amonth and is on the new 4g network. Well I took my first sim that has my original data plan for my blackberry and put it in my g2. Now this data plan does not use the 4g network cus I only get h no h+ on my g2 I then called customer service and was told I need to upgrade my data plan to the new android one to get 4g internet speeds. Well I've gone well over 5 gigs with my original plan from tethering to tether xbox live mw2 to downloading 2g torrents on my phone that are movies. And never been throtttled. So is it only the new android 50 dollar amonth data plan that gets throttled. So I'm tempted not to upgrade id rather have a 3g all monthe then be throttled to edge
Every broadband provider does this throtle ****. Such as comcast and att
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Here's what I'm wondering. I have 2 plans. An original plan that I got with my black berry and I got the 30 dollar web plan. I then upgraded to the g1 and used the same data plan and still have this data plan. Now I started another line to get my g2. That one I signed up as a data only plan cus I don't need 2 phone lines just wanted a g2 and had no upgrade. Now the onlyy data plan that I could use to sign up my g2 was like 50 dpllars amonth and is on the new 4g network. Well I took my first sim that has my original data plan for my blackberry and put it in my g2. Now this data plan does not use the 4g network cus I only get h no h+ on my g2 I then called customer service and was told I need to upgrade my data plan to the new android one to get 4g internet speeds. Well I've gone well over 5 gigs with my original plan from tethering to tether xbox live mw2 to downloading 2g torrents on my phone that are movies. And never been throtttled. So is it only the new android 50 dollar amonth data plan that gets throttled. So I'm tempted not to upgrade id rather have a 3g all monthe then be throttled to edge
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WHAT? you post doesnt make much sense and comes off kinda dumb.
G2 doesnt have a h+ icon. H is for 3g and 4g signal.
Second, If you had a data plan before the g2 came out then you will have a 10gb cap.
If you added or upgraded a data plan after the g2 came out then you will have a 5gb cap.
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To the op there isnt any networks in the USA that doesnt have a soft or hard cap.
Plus as already stated the phone will only work with tmobile 3g/4g
I currently have HTC HD2 running on Android. I am currently on AT&T and I am thinking about getting the T-Mobile $50 unlimited talk/text/data plan.
The first 100MB are full speed. My question is, after I use up the first 100MB of full speed data, what speed will I be getting? Will it be 3G or EDGE? Or will it be slower than edge?
What if I get AT&T's unlimited data for non-smartphones? AT&T can't detect my HD2, so I will be able to add this plan. But what will be the data speed I will be getting? Is it 3G, EDGE, or slower than EDGE?
What if I get AT&T's $50 Monthly Unlimited GoPhone Prepaid plan? They won't be able to detect my HD2 as a smartphone, so will I be able to use their unlimited data? What will be the speed of the data plan?
If there is an occasion where I remove my SIM card from the HD2 and put into an iPhone, will AT&T automatically detect it and remove me from the unlimited data plan?
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I currently have HTC HD2 running on Android. I am currently on AT&T and I am thinking about getting the T-Mobile $50 unlimited talk/text/data plan.
1. The first 100MB are full speed. My question is, after I use up the first 100MB of full speed data, what speed will I be getting? Will it be 3G or EDGE? Or will it be slower than edge?
2. What if I get AT&T's unlimited data for non-smartphones? AT&T can't detect my HD2, so I will be able to add this plan. But what will be the data speed I will be getting? Is it 3G, EDGE, or slower than EDGE?
3. What if I get AT&T's $50 Monthly Unlimited GoPhone Prepaid plan? They won't be able to detect my HD2 as a smartphone, so will I be able to use their unlimited data? What will be the speed of the data plan?
4. If there is an occasion where I remove my SIM card from the HD2 and put into an iPhone, will AT&T automatically detect it and remove me from the unlimited data plan?
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1. I don't know which version of the HD2 you have, but if it is currently getting 3G on AT&T, then it won't get 3G on T-Mobile. You would need the T-Mobile version of the HD2 for that. T-Mobile throttles speeds back one tier from what you pay for when you hit the soft cap. For example, if you pay for the 3G/4G service, you will get throttled back to EDGE. It will still show a 3G or HSPA connection, but the speeds will be down to somewhere around 100kbps down and 70kbps up. If you don't get 3G with them anyway, then you won't see any difference at all.
2. AT&T does not have any unlimited plans anymore. Even if you get a data plan with them, they can absolutely detect the IMEI number even on non-AT&T devices. They will send you a free text telling you that you need to be on a smartphone data plan. If you ignore the text, within a couple of days, you will have the lowest plan of $15 data for 200MB added to your account.
3. Again, they can detect the type of device you are using and will add an appropriate plan to your account for your device. Data speeds depend on the coverage area and the device you are using. Only the Telstra HD2 is able to get 3G on AT&T. The European and T-Mobile ones will only ever get EDGE speeds.
4. This is the same as what I described above. Once you start using the iPhone, it will be detected and your plan will be adjusted accordingly, whether you allow them to do so or not.
You will get much better customer service and data consistency on T-Mobile in most cases. Their plans are also WAY cheaper on T-Mobile. Depending on which HD2 you actually have, your data speeds will vary in comparison to AT&T. I, personally, have been a contract-free customer with T-Mobile for a very long time. I still pay $50 for 1000 minutes a month, which is unlimited for me, unlimited texts, and unlimited data. I'm grandfathered in, so I also do not have a soft cap on my data connection, nor do I have to pay for tethering.
When all is said and done, the best thing about T-Mobile is that it isn't AT&T.
You can still trick AT&T into getting an unlimited plan if you use phones they don't know the IMEI of, or if you activate the account with an iPhone 2G.
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You can still trick AT&T into getting an unlimited plan if you use phones they don't know the IMEI of, or if you activate the account with an iPhone 2G.
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IMEI's are very easy for carriers to look up. It does not only apply to devices they carry. This is a common myth. Once they see the IMEI of a smartphone, whether it is theirs or not, you get stuck with the smartphone data plan. It makes no difference. IMEI's are easily available and carriers have a database of which devices they belong to.
does ATT have a list of smartphone that requires data plan, anyone knows?
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does ATT have a list of smartphone that requires data plan, anyone knows?
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All AT&T smartphone-type devices require data plans. To my knowledge, there are no exceptions.
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All AT&T smartphone-type devices require data plans. To my knowledge, there are no exceptions.
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so if I have a t_mobile smartphone and willing to stayat edge speed, I should be okay? thanks
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so if I have a t_mobile smartphone and willing to stayat edge speed, I should be okay? thanks
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They are going to tack on a smartphone data plan, but yes, you can use it on their network after you get a SIM from them.
I agree with about 90% of what cajunflavoredbob replied.
Tmobile HD2 = Tmobile USA 3G or 4G (HSPA+)
HTC HD2 (Non-Branded) = AT&T 3G or Other providers 3G or HSPA+
When it comes to the plan type:
Tmobile Prepaid 4G (Month to Month) = $50 Unlimited Everything (1st 100MB is 4G)
My friend just got this plan and using it on Tmobile HD2.
I will check with him and report back once I have him do a few major download to pass the 100MB cap & a few speed test.
AT&T GoPhone Prepaid = $50 Unlimited Everything (No 3G for Smartphones)
Just got this like yesterday and tested on 3G iPhone.
3G iPhone data connection got blocked immediately after about 1 minute or usage.
However, if I switch back to the 3G Samsung SGH-A717, I was able to browse around and use 3G data on AT&T.
Therefore, I'm pretty sure AT&T system is scanning IMEI in real-time like cajunflavoredbob replied.
But I'm not sure about the Non-Branded HTC HD2 using 3G data on AT&T. Sorry but I do not have a Non-Branded HTC HD2 to test with. I'm currently activating prepaid services for people and will keep my eyes and ears open for you guys.
Personally, I'm pretty sure Non-Branded HTC HD2 WILL WORK & WILL PICK UP AT&T 3G because AT&T system WILL NOT RECOGNIZE the device & will treated as Non-Smartphone device.
That's all I found out for now. I will update once I do a few speed test here & there.
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I agree with about 90% of what cajunflavoredbob replied.
Tmobile HD2 = Tmobile USA 3G or 4G (HSPA+)
HTC HD2 (Non-Branded) = AT&T 3G or Other providers 3G or HSPA+
When it comes to the plan type:
Tmobile Prepaid 4G (Month to Month) = $50 Unlimited Everything (1st 100MB is 4G)
My friend just got this plan and using it on Tmobile HD2.
I will check with him and report back once I have him do a few major download to pass the 100MB cap & a few speed test.
AT&T GoPhone Prepaid = $50 Unlimited Everything (No 3G for Smartphones)
Just got this like yesterday and tested on 3G iPhone.
3G iPhone data connection got blocked immediately after about 1 minute or usage.
However, if I switch back to the 3G Samsung SGH-A717, I was able to browse around and use 3G data on AT&T.
Therefore, I'm pretty sure AT&T system is scanning IMEI in real-time like cajunflavoredbob replied.
But I'm not sure about the Non-Branded HTC HD2 using 3G data on AT&T. Sorry but I do not have a Non-Branded HTC HD2 to test with. I'm currently activating prepaid services for people and will keep my eyes and ears open for you guys.
Personally, I'm pretty sure Non-Branded HTC HD2 WILL WORK & WILL PICK UP AT&T 3G because AT&T system WILL NOT RECOGNIZE the device & will treated as Non-Smartphone device.
That's all I found out for now. I will update once I do a few speed test here & there.
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The unbranded HD2 will NOT get 3G on AT&T. The only version of the HD2 that will get AT&T 3G is the Telstra version. It will be not be "blocked" from the Internet service, but it will cause them to activate an appropriate monthly charge to your account. In the case of a prepaid plan, they will mostly likely block you completely when you use a smartphone device. This isn't me guessing at it, this is fact. If you try to use a smartphone, even if it is not an AT&T branded phone, on their network, they CAN and WILL update your account accordingly.
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The unbranded HD2 will NOT get 3G on AT&T. The only version of the HD2 that will get AT&T 3G is the Telstra version. It will be not be "blocked" from the Internet service, but it will cause them to activate an appropriate monthly charge to your account. In the case of a prepaid plan, they will mostly likely block you completely when you use a smartphone device. This isn't me guessing at it, this is fact. If you try to use a smartphone, even if it is not an AT&T branded phone, on their network, they CAN and WILL update your account accordingly.
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1. It is prepaid. They cannot make changes to your account on prepaid. They can only block the internet. On postpaid, they won't know. Lots of people are using unbranded phones on the postpaid featurephone data plan. This has been happening for a while.
2. Non-branded ATT smartphones work on the prepaid $50 plan. Been tested and reported on. People are using the Samsung Galaxy S2 on there even. Although, speeds may be throttled.
Yes, there are databases of devices available. ATT doesn't care or look at them though.
So, OP. If you do get a ATT 3g HD2, you can use it on the prepaid or postpaid plan. Prepaid might be throttled, but you won't know for sure until you try it. If you use the t-mobile version you will only get edge speeds.
I am getting mixed answers here and confused. Based on my reserach from other websites including HowardForums, it is my understanding that if I have a TMOUS HD2 and use it on AT&T $50 Prepaid plan, I will be able to use unlimited data but on EDGE speed. 3G speed won't work because TMOUS HD2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G broadcast frequency. In addition, if I were on the ATT $50 prepiad plan and put the SIM card into an iPhone, the data will not work at all (not even EDGE), however AT&T will NOT automatically add the cheapest data plan to my account since I am using the iPhone.
Please correct me if I am wrong about my understanding above...
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I am getting mixed answers here and confused. Based on my reserach from other websites including HowardForums, it is my understanding that if I have a TMOUS HD2 and use it on AT&T $50 Prepaid plan, I will be able to use unlimited data but on EDGE speed. 3G speed won't work because TMOUS HD2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G broadcast frequency. In addition, if I were on the ATT $50 prepiad plan and put the SIM card into an iPhone, the data will not work at all (not even EDGE), however AT&T will NOT automatically add the cheapest data plan to my account since I am using the iPhone.
Please correct me if I am wrong about my understanding above...
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For a prepaid account, yes, all of what you said above is true.
Zythyr said:
I am getting mixed answers here and confused. Based on my reserach from other websites including HowardForums, it is my understanding that if I have a TMOUS HD2 and use it on AT&T $50 Prepaid plan, I will be able to use unlimited data but on EDGE speed. 3G speed won't work because TMOUS HD2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G broadcast frequency. In addition, if I were on the ATT $50 prepiad plan and put the SIM card into an iPhone, the data will not work at all (not even EDGE), however AT&T will NOT automatically add the cheapest data plan to my account since I am using the iPhone.
Please correct me if I am wrong about my understanding above...
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Correct. If you use unbranded/non-ATT phones. The internet will also work, although may be throttled. Most ATT phones will have the internet blocked, unless you pay extra for it.
If I get T-Mobile's $70 unlimited talk text and high speed data plan, will my I get throttled? Will I be getting 3G speeds for a long for the whole month or will it get throttled down to GPRS ?
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If I get T-Mobile's $70 unlimited talk text and high speed data plan, will my I get throttled? Will I be getting 3G speeds for a long for the whole month or will it get throttled down to GPRS ?
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T-Mobile doesn't pull that same shady crap like AT&T does. You are allowed to use any phone you want on their network without having to worry about your speeds or data plan changing. I'm using a T-mobile branded HD2 on a plan I've had with them for years. My plan is still the same $50 I was paying when I first ran away from AT&T. I've never once been forced to change my plan for anything. I think you'll find that T-Mobile is a MUCH more friendly and open atmosphere than AT&T. Once you've dealt with them for a while, you'll understand why nearly every T-Mobile customer hates the proposed AT&T takeover. Most of us switched to T-Mobile to get away from AT&T's nearly evil practices. Also, you will only get 3G speeds on T-Mobile if your HD2 is T-Mobile branded. You do not have to pay extra for 3G or "4G" speeds with them. Their unlimited data plans do get throttled when you hit 5GB of data, but most users will never get that far. If you have a link to the plan details you are referring to, I can give you a much better run down of what to expect.
EDIT: Here's another cool thing about being on T-Mobile - they actually care about making you happy as a customer. Yesterday, I got a coupon in the mail with my statement. It was for 50% off any accessories in their stores. That isn't to say that I'm going to use it, since I don't shop in their stores, but it is still a nice gesture. There is also another separate piece of mail heading out to current customers that is a $25 gift card for use in any of their stores. This type of thing is pretty typical of them. So, let's break it down then, shall we?
With T-mobile, you get faster data, better customer service, reliable call connections, cheaper bills, and all of this with a company that isn't AT&T.
Zythyr said:
If I get T-Mobile's $70 unlimited talk text and high speed data plan, will my I get throttled? Will I be getting 3G speeds for a long for the whole month or will it get throttled down to GPRS ?
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Are you talking about the $70 prepaid plan? That plan has a 5gb cap, then it is throttled. The 5GB of data are unthrottled and can do "4g" speeds if you have a "4g" phone.
The postpaid service lets you pick some MB, 2GB, 5GB, or 10GB then throttled.
If you get the prepaid plan. You can buy the refill cards online like at callingmart.com They have monthly coupons by e-mail for 10% off. This brings the monthly total to about $63/month.
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Are you talking about the $70 prepaid plan? That plan has a 5gb cap, then it is throttled. The 5GB of data are unthrottled and can do "4g" speeds if you have a "4g" phone.
The postpaid service lets you pick some MB, 2GB, 5GB, or 10GB then throttled.
If you get the prepaid plan. You can buy the refill cards online like at callingmart.com They have monthly coupons by e-mail for 10% off. This brings the monthly total to about $63/month.
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So after 5GB, they will throttle it? What are the speeds after throttling? Does it go down to EDGE or GPRS?
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So after 5GB, they will throttle it? What are the speeds after throttling? Does it go down to EDGE or GPRS?
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About 80-100KBps, or roughly EDGE speeds.
slow as dog ****
i past my 5gb the other day and i can tell you now its slow as dog ****,i use my htc sensation to tether my laptop i forgot not to be downloading movies stupid me now when on xda from laptop the pictures in threads that people post take all day to display i will never past my 5gb again
I'm currently on Verizon Wireless and enjoy their unlimited data plan. However, I don't enjoy their ass slow speed on 3G and study in said city with no 4G LTE.
I am really wanting to switch to AT&T because my city DOES get HSPA+ and my hometown in LA County does get 4G LTE from AT&T. However, what I can't deal with is not having unlimited data. I would prefer to have this ability to switch, but talking to some AT&T representatives, I will not get the chance to, because AT&T will not budge on their data policy.
Do I have any chance of switching? First world problems I know, but I'd like to see everyone's opinion.
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I'm currently on Verizon Wireless and enjoy their unlimited data plan. However, I don't enjoy their ass slow speed on 3G and study in said city with no 4G LTE.
I am really wanting to switch to AT&T because my city DOES get HSPA+ and my hometown in LA County does get 4G LTE from AT&T. However, what I can't deal with is not having unlimited data. I would prefer to have this ability to switch, but talking to some AT&T representatives, I will not get the chance to, because AT&T will not budge on their data policy.
Do I have any chance of switching? First world problems I know, but I'd like to see everyone's opinion.
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Only way I've found is to buy an unbranded device and sign up for dumbphone data. If it's an option, it's infinitely cheaper than paying for unlimited data.
I did that with my s2 and it works good. The fastest I got was 7down and 2.7up, but were I live is 3-6down and 1up. If you want LTE I do not know if this will work do to the APN that it uses.
I have a razr with 4GLTE too with unlimited data on 12/5/11 and when it works it's faster than TW cable 1 up from lowest plan. I don't know why I keep loseing data every 3-5 days. somethimes all data, 3g only or no bars at all and thats at HOME with 3-4 bars of LTE. It's realy starting to piss me off. At the end I will likely say by-be to the big red.
WiFi and a home network?
Keep VZW
If you have an unlimited data plan with VZW, keep it forever. You will be thankful. You can even keep it with an LTE phone.
In a few months, LTE may very well be in your area.