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Preparing...
With the phone in the on position.
Fully charge the battery with the phone on... (until the led turns green.)
Once the led turns green, unplug the charger until the led goes off.
After the led goes off, plug the charger back in. When the led turns green , power off the phone.
now.... with the phone fully powered off...
1. Unplug the charger.
2. Wait until led goes off.
3. Plug charger back in until the led turns green. When it turns green, unplug the charger again and go to step 1.
4. repeat steps 1 and 3, 10 times. This may take anywhere from 30 seconds to 30 mins per cycle. Typically only about 1 minute. though.
DO NOT DRAIN THE BATTERY. The goal is not to empty the battery and recharge like ni-cads (those have memory, these don't). These are lithiums, so we need to do the opposite...
And lets all sing the hokie pokie and shout
The cells were not charged evenly, so each cell holds different charges. So when you charge it, 1 cell may be 95% another 100 and 98 etc... so when you balance the cells, they function like they are suppose to.
this phone does not have a cell balancer built into it.
So charge, wait til its almost dead, charge again til full, then do the process w the phone off?
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I'm sorry this guide doesn't really make much sense. the led won't be on if the phone is unplugged so how will I know if its on Orange or not? also is the phone on or off when I'm doing this?
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changed the instructions on top, i suck at writing.
I suppose this might explain why sometimes my phone plunges to about 90% almost immediately after taking it off the charger, but then battery decreases at a "normal" rate after that?
So were reconditioning our batteries...
I'm 99.9% sure the battery is single cell...it wouldn't make sense to have a dual cell 3.7v LiPo unless you wanted heavy discharge.
I don't see how this will make any charge other than the phone not topping the battery off...which in that case an external charger would do a much better job is so.
I tried this and my battery has been holding steady at 100% with the screen off for the last five minutes so something worked.
So is this a one time thing to re-condition the battery or will we have to do this more then once
Woah, voodoo magic here. Any proof of this working.....
SteelH said:
Woah, voodoo magic here. Any proof of this working.....
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No proof yet. Take it or leave it.
It works for me. Test on your own. Seems pretty harmless to atleast try...
Ingesting.
I've heard of draining all the way and recharging a couple times but this is a new one lol..
tmidle8575 said:
I suppose this might explain why sometimes my phone plunges to about 90% almost immediately after taking it off the charger, but then battery decreases at a "normal" rate after that?
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this always happens to me since getting the phone. will give this harmless voodoo a try
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No proof yet. Take it or leave it.
It works for me. Test on your own. Seems pretty harmless to atleast try...
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That's true, won't hurt anything. WTF I'll give it a try, maybe get proven wrong and learn something too..
I gave this a try and I must say that it is working. Before I did this, as soon as I would take my phone off the charger it would immediately drop to 96%. Now as david279 said, it will actually stay on 100% for awhile and have better standby time. Good find joker, I do see a difference.
How did you find out about the cells not being charged evenly?
WOW...this actually works. This should be posted on other forums so ppl know about it.
Akulamenuri said:
How did you find out about the cells not being charged evenly?
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I'm a battery nut... actually, i used lithiums in model RC airplanes all the time. Balancing is a must.
Maybe someone can build an app for this, to reboot cycle on and off the power?
Is that even possible?
Now if someone would like to shoot me a awsome working froyo 2.2 rom *** joke
kthejoker20 said:
I'm a battery nut... actually, i used lithiums in model RC airplanes all the time. Balancing is a must.
Maybe someone can build an app for this, to reboot cycle on and off the power?
Is that even possible?
Now if someone would like to shoot me a awsome working froyo 2.2 rom *** joke
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can you post this over at the other android forums so ppl know?
Hi, yesterday I installed CM7 on my android, all went well, very awesome.
Soon the LED Light messed up when I would plug the phone in via usb.
The LED had colors that were like mixed and all.
Searched on Google, and found nothing... So I then did the whole process over (wiped data...) And near the last step I wiped data instead of wiping cache.
It was like 5 in the am and I got sleepy so when I restarted the phone(Of course it would take a while), I went to lie down, then fell asleep. Woke up and my phone was still at the Motorola Logo screen. I also seen that I forgot to put it on the charger before went to sleep.
Long story short, My phone won't get past the logo screen, I would try to go back to 2.2 sbf but when I get into the bootloader screen the battery low cannot program.. error comes up.
Yeah, I explained practically everything..
What can I do to get it back to normal, so I can get CM7 back?
I only got to enjoy 20 minutes of the rom...
My phone: Motorola Bravo
Service: AT&T
You need to charge your battery some how? Does it charge at all
Do you know someone with phone?
If not ask for a battery replacement from at&t store and hope it has enough charge
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You need to charge your battery some how? Does it charge at all
Do you know someone with phone?
If not ask for a battery replacement from at&t store and hope it has enough charge
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My thought on charging was when the phone is off and you charge it, it goes to the charging screen, then eventually the display turns off.
Instead of that, it just stays at the Motorola Logo screen..
I've also had it on the charger for about 4 hours now. Still remaining at the logo screen, BUT it has also gotten warm..Maybe that means its charging? (right??)
2. Since I've moved, nope. Don't know anyone that has this phone and is near me.
3. Battery Replacement. It's 1am here so, I guess I'll just keep it on the charge till the morningmorning..
I could do the bootloader sbf back to froyo thing but since the phone's battery is dead to the max, I get the error, meaning I can't do that option.
I'll call my local AT&T store to see if I could get a battery replacement if I can't get it to turn on to at least the Recovery or bootloader.
Pain.. pain in my brain.
try to get it plugged in w/ no logo, to ensure it's off off... if not you might have to let it sit off the charger till it's dead enough that it doesn't try to boot...
i think it's trying to boot, but boot looping and not aquiring enough of a charge,
do you have it on a wall charger? make sure it's like 800 mah or higher, i think the phone comes with a 5.1v 800mah which was weird to me tha tit was 5.1 cause all other phones are 5.0 but anyway maybe you're not getting enough of a current to it to overcome the drain from the bootloop?
Are you able to get into custom recovery? (Do you see the blue LED at any point when the phone begins to try to power on?)
You have soft bricked your phone, so the only way to get it working is to sbf back to 2.2. The problem is, the bootloader doesn't allow you to sbf if your battery is below a certain point. You need to either get that battery charged or get a new one.
If you can't get anything at your store, I will cross-ship/trade you a charged battery (1 year old) for your current one and $3 for shipping? Let me know if you'd be interested in something like that...
I also bought a battery from Amazon (OEMShop or something), and I think it came 40%ish charged... You could try your luck?
Just so you understand the charging, Android uses the OS to monitor the charging. If the phone is bricked it doesn't charge… plain and simple. It sucks if you try to sbf after the battery is drained, but the only thing you can do is get another one. Hope your search for one comes up well.
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Just so you understand the charging, Android uses the OS to monitor the charging. If the phone is bricked it doesn't charge… plain and simple. It sucks if you try to sbf after the battery is drained, but the only thing you can do is get another one. Hope your search for one comes up well.
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Yeah..no.. I'll be getting a replacement phone (same one). Basically in 4 to 6 days..
I'm so happy, my phone kept restarting anyway when using data.. But yeah, thanks though.
Before you send other phone back... sbf with other battery back to stock.
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Yeah..no.. I'll be getting a replacement phone (same one). Basically in 4 to 6 days..
I'm so happy, my phone kept restarting anyway when using data.. But yeah, thanks though.
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Before you send other phone back... sbf with other battery back to stock.
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Yeah, I thought of that when I got of the phone with them. Thanks for the heads up though!
My replacement phone came in the mail earlier this afternoon! Thanks for all the help you guys. Glad I came here. So excited, just 10% more and it's fully charged.
I think I may get a extra battery just in case for my phone. Great post!
This just happened to me too. I thought what to do...
Spliced one of my old car phone chargers and hooked it to my phone battery... plugged it into my car fir 5 minutes and was charged enough to sbf.
Don't recommend it if you don't know what your doing
Cheers
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rubbachicken said:
try to get it plugged in w/ no logo, to ensure it's off off... if not you might have to let it sit off the charger till it's dead enough that it doesn't try to boot...
i think it's trying to boot, but boot looping and not aquiring enough of a charge,
do you have it on a wall charger? make sure it's like 800 mah or higher, i think the phone comes with a 5.1v 800mah which was weird to me tha tit was 5.1 cause all other phones are 5.0 but anyway maybe you're not getting enough of a current to it to overcome the drain from the bootloop?
Are you able to get into custom recovery? (Do you see the blue LED at any point when the phone begins to try to power on?)
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Volume up... not down... got it
I just flashed SyNthetic_aospX 1.0.0-BR7 on my HTC Glacier and started observing a little weird behavior with it. It died of battery, but when I restarted it, the phone showed 10% battery remaining.
I switched off and put it on charging, after 1.5 Hr, the charging indicator was still yellow but I switched on the phone and boom, it showed 100% charging and the led turned green. To double check I switched off the phone and plugged in, it was still showing yellow led. After around 45 mins, the battery was fully charged in off mode.
Is this some behavior known to anyone? Or it is time for my battery (my phone is still with original battery and it's almost 2 years).
Any help is highly appreciated ...
Well, first off, did you flash at 100% battery?
Second, is your battery swollen at all? It probably is after 2 years. I had to replace mine after a little over a year.
I can tell you that, even on CM7, I leave my charger off while in recovery because it might say 50%, but as soon as I reboot it might say 70%. A magical 20% increase in 45 seconds. Still, your battery behavior is off. If you decide to replace it, check out Anker.
Don't forget to flash another ROM to compare battery behavior.
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Well, first off, did you flash at 100% battery?
Second, is your battery swollen at all? It probably is after 2 years. I had to replace mine after a little over a year.
I can tell you that, even on CM7, I leave my charger off while in recovery because it might say 50%, but as soon as I reboot it might say 70%. A magical 20% increase in 45 seconds. Still, your battery behavior is off. If you decide to replace it, check out Anker.
Don't forget to flash another ROM to compare battery behavior.
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Thanks estallings15, I initially flashed at < 100% but then realized my mistake so did a full wipe and then charged it to 100% (when powered off). And then flashed it again.
Seems my battery is little swollen, can't say though, I would give it a shot to replace it.
I tried another ROM but did not use it for full battery cycle, as I just love this ICS
If you decide to replace it, check out Anker.
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Should I buy Anker or OEM ?
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Should I buy Anker or OEM ?
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For me, Anker is at least as good as OEM if not better, as well as cheaper. Answer your question?
I am using the same ROM. My battery life isn't very good either..!
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For me, Anker is at least as good as OEM if not better, as well as cheaper. Answer your question?
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Yupp, it does, thanks. I'll give it a try to Anker and see ... This ROM is so sweet ...
mokee92 said:
I am using the same ROM. My battery life isn't very good either..!
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I know, but this ROM is so awesome to leave ... But its good to know that I'm not alone
So about a week or two ago my phone randomly shut itself off. I'm not sure exactly what happened but I just locked it and slid it in my pocket and an hour or so later I checked it and it wouldn't turn on, yet I could feel the gpu/processor getting extremely hot after a minute or so of failed attempts. Also the trackpad would flash red, which I had never noticed before. Prior to this I had been noticing my battery was draining quicker.
So when I try to charge it will charge itself for approximately a minute or so and then the orange LED will go out, again the processor/gpu gets very hot. After about an hour if I come back the phone will feel cold again as if It had been off and the phone won't turn on. I was able to buy a new battery today, because I read it could be related to a dead battery. This new battery boots to the familiar HTC mytouch4g intro (which is good, considering the old battery doesn't even power on), but then will shut off immediately after that or occasionally just get stuck at that screen. I can boot into recovery but then it says low battery voltage. I tried to do a factory reset but it just takes me back to the bootscreen again and shuts off.
I'm not sure what to do, as I've bricked a previous phone before and this doesn't really seem similar. I'm thinking about leaving the phone on charge, even though the orange LED is off with the hopes that it will charge. Anyone else have similar experience to this?
You tried different chargers?
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You tried different chargers?
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Yeah, like 4 or 5 different mini usb's.
Can you get into the bootloader?
estallings15 said:
Can you get into the bootloader?
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Yes, by holding down on the volume and the power button right? Almost every option leads back to the phone rebooting.
greeny996 said:
Yes, by holding down on the volume and the power button right? Almost every option leads back to the phone rebooting.
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Try installing PD15IMG.zip.
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Try installing PD15IMG.zip.
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Sorry about the long response time. Unfortunately now my phone will not turn on with either battery, so I couldn't flash the img. I think it could be possible that my phone is not actually charging the battery and both of them have died. I'm not entirely sure, I'm going to charge it overnight and hope for the best.
greeny996 said:
Sorry about the long response time. Unfortunately now my phone will not turn on with either battery, so I couldn't flash the img. I think it could be possible that my phone is not actually charging the battery and both of them have died. I'm not entirely sure, I'm going to charge it overnight and hope for the best.
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Perhaps your USB port is broken
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Perhaps your USB port is broken
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I doubt it, my phone will charge off the USB for a minute or so when I plug it in.
Hi i have the latest cm-10.1-20130901-NIGHTLY-find5.zip and I have problems when charging while powered off: The display stays on while charging and the telephone overheats. Are there any fixes?
Best Regards ngt
negiot said:
Hi i have the latest cm-10.1-20130901-NIGHTLY-find5.zip and I have problems when charging while powered off: The display stays on while charging and the telephone overheats. Are there any fixes?
Best Regards ngt
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Have you seen if this is a problem with other users? I'm using PAC ROM and have the same result with the screen being lit to a black screen when powered off and charging. I'm checking now to see if it overheats. It may be(and probably is) the screen on and charging at the same time that is causing it to heat up like that. My suggestion is to not charge while powered off if you can help it. A little warm is ok, but these quad-core phones can cook when that CPU is going.. I've felt mine to the point of needing to power it off with usage in the sun making it unbearably hot. And if it's getting HOT HOT.. than yeah.
3 things you can do.
1.Charge with phone powered on.
2.Go back to stock ROM where this was not an issue.
3.Work with the devs to try and figure out what is causing it. Be prepared to provide a logcat if the problem can't be reproduced on their end.
My phone has been charging off for about 10 minutes now and it still feels a little cool to the touch. Battery is 100% full. Not sure if that makes a difference. I'll keep in on charge for another 10. I'll update this post in a little bit.
**UPDATE** Its been on the charger for 30 minutes.. no heat increase. Note* I'm running PAC ROM AOSP ROM.
Batteries always get hot if you use them while they are charging. This is slightly harmful to the battery too, but if it only happens once or twice I wouldnt worry about it.
All AOSP roms on this device so far are afflicted by this problem. Just turn your phone on first and as soon as you see the boot logo you can plug it in. You'll get used to it.
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Batteries always get hot if you use them while they are charging. This is slightly harmful to the battery too, but if it only happens once or twice I wouldnt worry about it.
All AOSP roms on this device so far are afflicted by this problem. Just turn your phone on first and as soon as you see the boot logo you can plug it in. You'll get used to it.
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Yeah for sure. It wasn't me with the issue but the OP.
Coreym said:
Yeah for sure. It wasn't me with the issue but the OP.
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Sorry I didn't mean to quote you
all good my man
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Hi have problem with the microphone and display while charnging... but I don't want go back!!! Bye ngt
Use cm10.2
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Use cm10.2
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maxwen, does cm10.2 for find5 have deadlocks like nexus 4 does?
I am waiting for the deadlocks to stop before I upgrade.