Am i meant to charge it full before i turn it on for the first time?
powlesY said:
Am i meant to charge it full before i turn it on for the first time?
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I was also told to charge for 4 hours.. but it is no longer needed for Li-Ion,Li-poly batteries.. even the user manual doesn't say anything about initial charging..
Page 12 of the user manual..
"When the battery is fully charged (the battery icon is
no longer moving), unplug the travel adapter from the
device and then from the power outlet."
Hmm, thanks. Can anyone verify that i don't need to charge it for 8 hours or whatever before turning it on?
I got it yesterday and I just put it on charge and after a few minutes I turned it on and started using it and honestly battery life is great so far so imagine that, if it's good from the beginning then after 1-2 weeks it will be amazing!
just use it anytime you want, keep it on charge if you want while using it, nothing bad will happen.
powlesY said:
Hmm, thanks. Can anyone verify that i don't need to charge it for 8 hours or whatever before turning it on?
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Just charge it till full....switched on or off is up to ya.
Wicked. Means i don't have to wait about for ages without using it. Gonna mess around with it whilst it's charging.
of course, some will tell you otherwise....i've used several phones just like that, and didn't have any problems with battery life. But never say never....
At last. Great review from Cnet:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-vibrant-t-mobile/4505-6452_7-34129373.html?tag=rvwBody
I bet they didn't train the battery since they said it dies fast
What do you mean by "train" the battery?
Tyrant171 said:
What do you mean by "train" the battery?
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Letting it die all the way then turn it on till it completely turns off and you can turn on again then charge it fully and you do it that for 3 times and your good
Gotcha...good to know. Thanks for the info!
iceshinobi said:
Letting it die all the way then turn it on till it completely turns off and you can turn on again then charge it fully and you do it that for 3 times and your good
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so you turn on the phone for the very first time and use it on whatever battery power thats left. then use it to the point which it shuts down itself. now turn the phone back on again, and plug in the charger, keep using the phone but with the charger still plugged in. when the battery meter indicates "FULL". unplug the charger. and repeat these procedures 3 times.
Does this sound about right?
Ziostilon said:
so you turn on the phone for the very first time and use it on whatever battery power thats left. then use it to the point which it shuts down itself. now turn the phone back on again, and plug in the charger, keep using the phone but with the charger still plugged in. when the battery meter indicates "FULL". unplug the charger. and repeat these procedures 3 times.
Does this sound about right?
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Yep but u repeat 2 times since u already started with the 1st one and then your battery will be maximized for some reason i still don't understand clearly
Li-ion batteries have a few quirks. They need a few full charge cycles to get the full range of the battery. Then for the best lifespan you should top off the battery every day. Every 30 or so top-offs (once per month) you should drain the battery completely then recharge. Depending on the quality you should get 3 years or 200-500 cycles. The batteries continue to slowly improve.
I don't see what the big deal is about the camera not having a flash. I have the HD2 right now and almost never use the flash and if I do half the time I retake the picture without the flash and it comes out better.
speoples20 said:
I don't see what the big deal is about the camera not having a flash. I have the HD2 right now and almost never use the flash and if I do half the time I retake the picture without the flash and it comes out better.
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Agreed. I don't think I've ever taken a photo with a cell phone flash that I was happy with.
I immediately thought the same thing (re: training the battery) when I saw this review. lol. You'd think that cnet would know these things, wouldn't they?!
Also clearly they didn't try to use the night mode vs a camera with a flash before whining that it has no flash.
Yea I hope more reviews come in the next 13 hours or atleast I go in my car to drive to T-Mobile tomorrow morning
Mobile Burn has a good video review here
youtube.com/watch?v=PFOwe_Jj3pI
Heres another one from Mobility Minded
youtube.com/watch?v=aXYLOI5i7Gw
speoples20 said:
I don't see what the big deal is about the camera not having a flash. I have the HD2 right now and almost never use the flash and if I do half the time I retake the picture without the flash and it comes out better.
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It's a big deal for people like me that are out and about in the evening or even in rooms with not very many windows, in those cases it makes the camera almost useless because all you get is a blurry mess or a black screen
When you turn on Night Mode, the camera quality is actually really good in dark situations.
Hey everyone, this is my first topic and I guess I had sort of a discovery that could help people out. Well a couple days ago I saw/learned on a thread that once our batteries reach 100% when charging..it shuts off. Now this is reasonable since almost everyone with an EVO experiences that 10-15% drop when taking it off the charger...well to get to the business, try doing this method I gave a shot.
1. charge your phone until the led light goes green
2. unplug it and let it drop to 97% (that's all I've tested it on, and use that all the time since I got good results with it.)
3. Plug the charger back in and let it charge to 99%, then take it out, and.your good to go.
I encourage everyone to give this a try and let me know what kind of results you get. I definitely see a change when, and when not using this method.
If you watch your phone and pull it off the charger when the light turns green then guess what....you're at 100%. It only drops 10% if you let it stay on green for a long time (because it actually stops charging until the voltage drops back down a bit).
Forgot to mention, its useful if its left charged over night. Good catch.
Welcome to the Forums.
This is has discussed ad nauseum
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Welcome to the Forums.
This is has discussed ad nauseum
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ditto.
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Hi, I just got my phone today and the sales man was saying something about training the battery but I was joning on the phone so much I didn't actually hear him. So I think it's you completely drain it until it shuts down and then, do you charge it as it's off or can I turn it on and charge it? How many times do I repeat this? Is this all I need to do. Thanks people!
H2O37 said:
Hi, I just got my phone today and the sales man was saying something about training the battery but I was joning on the phone so much I didn't actually hear him. So I think it's you completely drain it until it shuts down and then, do you charge it as it's off or can I turn it on and charge it? How many times do I repeat this? Is this all I need to do. Thanks people!
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Why did you post this topic in multiple forms ? This has been answered in other forum
I am sure this is for galaxy s3
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I bought a new Battery some time ago the selling guy explained how to do it BEST:
It's all about the first 3 loads which are essential for the whole life of the battery!
load it until it's full in switched off state (only the first time) and wait until there's shown "100%" in the big Battery picture when you push home button (still in switched off state). Then it's at 4200mV
IMPORTANT: do not unpluguntil it's really full!!! (That's the most important, as the ions only are "pushed" straight in the "right direction" if you don't interrupt charging.)
boot the phone and let it drain to zero without plugging charger (or USB-cable)! Means until pone shuts down itself. Plug the charger then and boot the phone or not - doesn't matter
First 3 rounds from 4200 to 0 "mV" without any charging. Means until pone shuts down itself.
after three loads keep the accumulator between ~40 and ~90 % of load. That' best for a long life.
generally it doesn't matter if phone is on/off for charging and it does not matter how often you plug the charger. Of course I wouldn't do that every five minutes....
Sorry for my bad technical English...
For those who have bad battery life first charge your phone fully while on then turn phone off...plug the phone back into charger while it's off it will be a red light charge until green sometimes it takes another 20 mins .When done turn phone on and plug charger in again it will drop to 99% when 100 plug out now u have a fully calibrated battery..I am on the new firmware btw
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What do you basr yourself on for this??
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gemini002 said:
For those who have bad battery life first charge your phone fully while on then turn phone off...plug the phone back into charger while it's off it will be a red light charge until green sometimes it takes another 20 mins .When done turn phone on and plug charger in again it will drop to 99% when 100 plug out now u have a fully calibrated battery..I am on the new firmware btw
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i call BS lol this has been around since the htc hero days
CheesyNutz said:
i call BS lol this has been around since the htc hero days
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Actually it's not b.s I noticed that around 80% my phone would drop down quickly to 70% and 30% would drop 3% instead of 1 so I did this method knowing that my battery was not fully charged.since I have done this no more quick drops...instead of saying b.s why not try it first then come to a conclusion smh
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I can vouch for this ...I am only trying to help those who gave bad battery drain...we do flash a lot on xda sometimes **** happens
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Instead of clowing u guys should try it..listen phone says fully charged for some but in reality it is not it will rapidly drop for example 90% but drops to 79% rapidly or drops 3% for no reason while screen is on is due to battery not fully calibrated/charged ..This happens from flashing roms sometimes this happens if you have battery issues try this method ..
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I used this method a couple of years ago on my DHD. It made a huge difference! i forgot all about this. I'll do it again later.
Thanks, I had a feeling the calibration was a little off since the phone shuts down at around 5%, let's see what happens.
Yeah, I do this on my galaxy note and sometinmes on my new one.
When 100,% through normal charging turn phone off and begin charge again. It will charge just that bit further.
One thing the note does better is thaat when off and charging you get a battery indicator on screen, not so with the one.
WhatsAUsername said:
I'm pretty sure the only way to get a full battery charge is to hold the phone upside down in your right hand, put your left hand on the back, and spin in 3 circles, counter clockwise. You must then quickly plug the charger (within 1 second), and spin the phone around the cable 3 times, in a clockwise direction this time. Only then can you ever hope to have a fully charged battery.
I can vouch for this. :good:
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Man that's total bull...... only 2 circles required
To be real for a minute if I may..... if you monitor the current draw by the phone when charging you will see that when the green led lights the phone is still pulling 60-70mA from the charger so it's still charging and can take a while longer for that draw to fall to 0mA. At this point it's fully charged.
Charging it as the OP suggests does actually allow this extra top up.
I actually think this does help with proper calibration a bit. Not sure why people are acting like children here.
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The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
NxNW said:
The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
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What's wrong with turning the phone off every once in a while and letting it charge up fully?
NxNW said:
The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
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I only needed to do it once...for regular charging I recommend charging while off then plug it out turn on and charge will drop to 99% when plugged in charge until light is green..or you can charge normal after this point your battery stats should be good
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Arcadia310 said:
What's wrong with turning the phone off every once in a while and letting it charge up fully?
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gemini002 said:
I only needed to do it once...for regular charging I recommend charging while off then plug it out turn on and charge will drop to 99% when plugged in charge until light is green..or you can charge normal after this point your battery stats should be good
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actually i'm totally cool with doing this procedure every once in a while as a way to just what it says, get a few extra minutes of battery life. hell, if very precise runtime estimates are important to you and this helps calibrate that, great. i'm all for that too. i actually *have* tried something like this and my phone didnt die and i'm sure i got a little extra run time that day.
i just wouldn't do it *every* day.
one of the findings in another thread around here (something about battery "health") was the battery ages quicker at higher voltages such as those used towards the end of the charging cycle. if you are willing to constrain yourself to charging the phone to *less* than 80% capacity (ie the opposite of what this thread is about) you will double the useful life of the actual LiOn (or LiPolymer or whatever) material in the phone.
that is all. not trying to discourage anyone from *ever* doing this procedure, just explaining why i actually strive to do the opposite most of the time.
carry on.
Known fact... it is impractical to FULLY charge up a battery while is is in use (hence, being drained). Plain and simple physics at work here and I can vouch for this based on the many years I worked in the Navy charging, repairing, replacing, and rebuilding naval vessel batteries. Granted these are not huge deep cycle batteries but the charging principles are the same.
As as matter of fact, just did the method the OP was kind enough to suggest to us and it worked like a charm. Noticed a higher mv reading on my battery! Not much but I will take it. Who would have figured on that...
+Thanks to OP for bringing this up.
EDIT: For the record, I would normally reach 4310-4313mV... after this I am reaching +4335mV - Not much but I'll take it.
veritasxe said:
Thanks, I had a feeling the calibration was a little off since the phone shuts down at around 5%, let's see what happens.
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That's only because fast boot is most probably enabled...
Kahbrohn said:
Known fact... it is impractical to FULLY charge up a battery while is is in use (hence, being drained). Plain and simple physics at work here and I can vouch for this based on the many years I worked in the Navy charging, repairing, replacing, and rebuilding naval vessel batteries. Granted these are not huge deep cycle batteries but the charging principles are the same.
As as matter of fact, just did the method the OP was kind enough to suggest to us and it worked like a charm. Noticed a higher mv reading on my battery! Not much but I will take it. Who would have figured on that...
+Thanks to OP for bringing this up.
EDIT: For the record, I would normally reach 4310-4313mV... after this I am reaching +4335mV - Not much but I'll take it.
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Ahhhh vindication ...
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As fun as it is to mock, this most likely does work. HTC seem to be pretty bad at making battery algorithms, never found myself having to do this on the galaxy nexus or nexus 4. But my battery drops to 85 darn fast now and I'm pretty sure this will help. I remember this was helpful on the desire and desire HD too.
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A lot of people say this is merely a placebo effect, but I agree that it works very well for me with my device.
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