NST Reflections from a Canadian Buyer - Nook Touch General

Good evening All,
So, I recently bought a Nook Simple Touch from a 3rd party retailer so that I could purchase it from Canada. The main selling point for me was that it was rootable.
Well, having used it for a few weeks, I must say, I'm disappointed. It's ridiculous that I can't buy *any* legit books from Barnes and Nobles, *including* free books which are available elsewhere; I understand restrictions on certain items, but Classic, free books, really?
Second, the perks of having a rooted device are limited at the moment. I find the process still somewhat buggy, and many of the Marketplace apps I've downloaded, most notably the Kindle app, either don't work or crash on launch.
Third, if one has problems with the device, the exchange process is significantly more inconvenient than for a US citizen. In my case, I need to go through the 3rd party re-saler and must pay a 20% restocking fee. I'm already having battery issues, and trying to deal with B&N directly has not been pleasant, either--I've called for days now, get told that they're experiencing an unusual number of calls, and instead of being put onto hold, I get hung up on.
For these reasons--that I can't even download legit books, that the rooting process gives me little benefit, and that tech support seems nearly impossible, I recommend against this item. I am going to return it and get either a Kindle or Kobo.
Has anyone else had any experiences with buying an Nook outside of the US? I'd be curious to hear your opinions.
Cheers,
-Feliks

feliksas.laukys said:
[...] ridiculous that I can't buy *any* legit books from Barnes and Nobles, *including* free books which are available elsewhere; I understand restrictions on certain items, but Classic, free books, really?
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Why do you feel restricted to B&N to get classics and free books? One of the reasons to root is escape the B&N walled garden. You can freely download content off of other web sites (e.g. Project Gutenberg), either directly to your device, possibly in a 3rd party reader app, or to a computer for sideloading. Fire up Calibre on your desktop and set up subscriptions to push daily news to your NOOK. Buy from (and support) DRM-free publishers that do care about those north of the border. You are FREE, man!
Second, the perks of having a rooted device are limited at the moment. I find the process still somewhat buggy, and many of the Marketplace apps I've downloaded, most notably the Kindle app, either don't work or crash on launch.
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The Kindle app is working well for me. Of course, you have to have reasonable expectations for this device. It is running Android 2.1 Eclair, so a lot of apps simply won't run. Others won't display properly, or are dependent on multitouch. Obviously, it's not a gaming platform, but for text-centric apps, you may be able to find suitable replacements. What specific types of apps are you after?
Third, if one has problems with the device, the exchange process is significantly more inconvenient than for a US citizen. In my case, I need to go through the 3rd party re-saler and must pay a 20% restocking fee.
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Well, you knew that going in, right? That's always the risk of doing business like that.
I'm already having battery issues, and trying to deal with B&N directly has not been pleasant, either--I've called for days now, get told that they're experiencing an unusual number of calls, and instead of being put onto hold, I get hung up on.
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I certainly hope you've asked for help here at XDA. B&N support is notorious for being staffed by poorly trained spider monkeys (no slight to primates intended). Again, you are FREE of B&N.
If you'd care to elaborate, many here might be able to help you pinpoint your battery issues. I've spent a lot of time tuning battery usage and will gladly help if I can. You should expect to see reduced battery life if you use any of the following:
Live wallpapers
Active widgets
Apps that poll in the background
Battery will still be good compared to many devices, but not as good as a stock NST. With a bit of adjustment, I see about 2% drop over a 4-6 hour period when idle with wifi off, 2% per hour when idle with wifi on, and 4-8% when in actively using networked apps.
Reading on the B&N forums, I'm understanding that you can physically buy from Canada, but you must have a credit card with a US address. Of course, having family on either side of the border helps here. We've got family in the TO area. I believe getting someone to buy you a gift card will work as well.
That said, if you just want a reader and another device supports you better in your locale, by all means, go for it!

Why do you feel restricted to B&N to get classics and free books? One of the reasons to root is escape the B&N walled garden. You can freely download content off of other web sites (e.g. Project Gutenberg), either directly to your device, possibly in a 3rd party reader app, or to a computer for sideloading. Fire up Calibre on your desktop and set up subscriptions to push daily news to your NOOK. Buy from (and support) DRM-free publishers that do care about those north of the border. You are FREE, man!
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Can't argue with that--I love Calibre. However, being away from my computer in an airport, I was willing to buy, and could not--and while Kindle would load, I could not buy, from B&N, I obviously could not buy, and the browser along with Opera would either crash or not load at all. In those cases, I would like the ability to buy, or buy/download from somewhere else. I don't want to be with my laptop all the time.
The Kindle app is working well for me. Of course, you have to have reasonable expectations for this device. It is running Android 2.1 Eclair, so a lot of apps simply won't run. Others won't display properly, or are dependent on multitouch. Obviously, it's not a gaming platform, but for text-centric apps, you may be able to find suitable replacements. What specific types of apps are you after?
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I just reformatted and re-rooted--have to wait for Marketplace to start working and I'll try again. I hope it does work, that would make me think twice about returning.
Well, you knew that going in, right? That's always the risk of doing business like that.
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Can't argue with this one ;p
I certainly hope you've asked for help here at XDA. B&N support is notorious for being staffed by poorly trained spider monkeys (no slight to primates intended). Again, you are FREE of B&N.
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Just recently posted about my issue - the battery works well, as far as I can tell, but the battery status does not refresh. Unfortunately, I rooted before I backed up. Having realized this, I reset using the script found here (bypassing the 8 reboots), and then did a wipe and de-authorize, and then created "as vanilla as I can get" backup. However, while I remember that the battery status worked fine when I first got the device, I'm uncertain if it was screwed up right after rooting, or if I did something later on to make it so. All I know now is that, despite restoring, wiping, and restoring from image, my battery status remains incorrect.
Any suggestions?
Cheers!
-Feliks

Ooh, didn't realize you were the "battery gauge" guy. Are you sure they didn't ship you a refurb, or was it just a "rebuying" service? I'll have to start smuggling NOOKs up next time I drive to TO.
Some of the 3rd part reader apps will allow you to directly download free epubs from within the app. I believe Aldiko will. Sorry, but I don't have any handy to check for sure.
Or you could just go overboard like I did and load an SD card up with 500+ odd titles to browse through.

feliksas.laukys said:
Can't argue with that--I love Calibre. However, being away from my computer in an airport, I was willing to buy, and could not--and while Kindle would load, I could not buy, from B&N, I obviously could not buy, and the browser along with Opera would either crash or not load at all. In those cases, I would like the ability to buy, or buy/download from somewhere else. I don't want to be with my laptop all the time.
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There's two versions of Opera. There's Opera Mobile, which is the better of the two, but doesn't work for everyone. Then there's Opera Mini, which has the web pages compressed by Opera's servers, which makes it slow, but it will probably work of Mobile doesn't. If you're using Mini but it doesn't work, try Mobile. I don't know why, but the Nook seems to play favorites.

feliksas.laukys said:
So, I recently bought a Nook Simple Touch from a 3rd party retailer so that I could purchase it from Canada. The main selling point for me was that it was rootable.
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That's what did it for me as well. I actually bought mine instore in the US, but I brought it home to Canada to use.
Well, having used it for a few weeks, I must say, I'm disappointed. It's ridiculous that I can't buy *any* legit books from Barnes and Nobles, *including* free books which are available elsewhere; I understand restrictions on certain items, but Classic, free books, really?
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It seems like you need to manage your expectations. Did you do any research on here or other sites about the capabilities of the NST outside of the US? I knew going in that buying books on the device would be difficult, so I planned ahead and made sure I had other options (Calibre, as others have mentioned). B&N doesn't do business in my country, and I have to live with their decision, as stupid as they are for making it and leaving our funny-looking money on the table.
Second, the perks of having a rooted device are limited at the moment. I find the process still somewhat buggy, and many of the Marketplace apps I've downloaded, most notably the Kindle app, either don't work or crash on launch.
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Again, with the managing of expectations. It's an e-reader, not a tablet. It has significant hardware differences from either a phone or a tablet, and those differences will affect what apps will run and how useful they will be. It also does not have all the software components that Android apps expect, which also affects how apps will run. Having said all of this, there's still a ton of useful, working apps for NST. My intent, when I purchased the NST, was to have an e-reader with an E-ink screen, that could also check email. As it is, NST fulfills that requirement perfectly, beyond my wildest dreams. In addition to that functionality, I discovered several other things it's good at (the best dang SSH client I ever used, a better SimpleNote client than the original, a surprisingly good InstaPaper client, etc.). For me, the perks of rooting have been absolutely massive.
Third, if one has problems with the device, the exchange process is significantly more inconvenient than for a US citizen. In my case, I need to go through the 3rd party re-saler and must pay a 20% restocking fee. I'm already having battery issues, and trying to deal with B&N directly has not been pleasant, either--I've called for days now, get told that they're experiencing an unusual number of calls, and instead of being put onto hold, I get hung up on.
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This part confuses me. B&N have explicitly chosen not to do business here. What makes you think they would make an exception just for you? Your expectations seem very high.
For these reasons--that I can't even download legit books, that the rooting process gives me little benefit, and that tech support seems nearly impossible, I recommend against this item. I am going to return it and get either a Kindle or Kobo.
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These devices will likely be a better fit for you...they don't have apps at all, so all of them won't work, rather than just some, and you'll likely have an easier time getting service (although, being unable to root them, you'll likely not have any battery troubles, since battery drain increase after rooting NST is a well known concern).
Not to put too fine a point on it, but it seems that more pre-purchase research and planning (you didn't have time to put a few books on your Nook before you left for the airport?) and some more reasonable expectations would serve you better in the future.

Googie2149 said:
There's two versions of Opera. There's Opera Mobile, which is the better of the two, but doesn't work for everyone. Then there's Opera Mini, which has the web pages compressed by Opera's servers, which makes it slow, but it will probably work of Mobile doesn't. If you're using Mini but it doesn't work, try Mobile. I don't know why, but the Nook seems to play favorites.
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This also seems to have something to do with whatever was installed upon root. From what I have read on the forums, some rooting methods install Opera Mobile upon root so the user does not have to go install it manually. It then fails to work.

Tired_ said:
[...] as stupid as they are for making it and leaving our funny-looking money on the table.
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Oh wait, that's MONEY?
Now all the drink machine vendors are hoping people will use Canadian quarters, what with the exchange rate.
When did they start adding ferrous material to your coins? I was surprised when some newer coins jumped up at my magnet.
[...] My intent, when I purchased the NST, was to have an e-reader with an E-ink screen, that could also check email. As it is, NST fulfills that requirement perfectly, beyond my wildest dreams.
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I'm after a mail client that can deal with MS Exchange. MailDroid is working pretty well, but I'm curious what else works well.
[...] you'll likely not have any battery troubles, since battery drain increase after rooting NST is a well known concern).
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I'm being careful with loading up software that drains battery, and I'm quite pleased with battery life on mine, even after rooting. With wifi off, I lose 2% every 4-6 hours on standby. With wifi on, it's 2% per hour. With wifi on and in use, 4-6% per hour.
I never expected to meet B&N's "2 months" hype target. At this rate, 2-4 weeks between charges is more likely, though it seems to be getting better the more I use it. I'm actually very pleased with my rooted NST's battery life, though I can't really say whether I'm seeing "good" or "bad" life. It certainly out-lasts every gizmo I've owned before now!

bobstro said:
I never expected to meet B&N's "2 months" hype target.!
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If you look closely, you'll notice an asterisk stating that you'll only reach that if you read for 30 minute a day, and my guess is that you also would have to turn it off between readings. xD

Cheers for the quick reply! As long as my battery gets sorted out, I'll keep it!
-F...

Just got off the phone with B&N--exchange or any sort of replacement is impossible in Canada. Anything goes wrong, have to go to the states to get it fixed. Too much of a liability for me--I'll take not being able to buy any legitimate books etc, but to not be able to get *any* service? No way.
Thanks for all the help, All,
-F...

Ohh! The Saga continues!
The only supplier in Canada for the Nook will replace it for me, no trouble, no problems. I can happily continue rooting after all, and he'll take care of any warranty and repairs!
Ok, next project then: mods, admins -- can we start a documentation project, get a proper guide up here? I'd be happy to contribute.
Cheers,
-F

feliksas.laukys said:
[...] The only supplier in Canada for the Nook will replace it for me, no trouble, no problems. I can happily continue rooting after all, and he'll take care of any warranty and repairs!
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Ah, good news. Who's the supplier?

This guy:
http://www.shopereaders.com/
I happened to be in Vancouver for a wedding a few weeks ago when I found out about him. Went to his house, picked up a Nook. Super friendly and helpful, and again, as far as I know, only guy in Canada selling the Nook.
-F...

Don`t understand what are most of the complains about. It is officially stated by Barnes&Noble that that the device is supported only in the US.
Have bought my Nook with my credit card, also have no problems with buying nook-books from BN. And I`m from Ukraine which is much closer to "third world" then Canada or elsewhere.

Dagon.Alex said:
[...] Have bought my Nook with my credit card, also have no problems with buying nook-books from BN.
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Is that a US credit card?

Visa Classic issued in Ukraine. Have it connected to PayPal account, maybe this is the reason.

feliksas.laukys said:
Good evening All,
Has anyone else had any experiences with buying an Nook outside of the US? I'd be curious to hear your opinions.
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I have been able to order both free and pay titles from the B&N store for my Nook Simple Touch by registering my Canadian-issued Mastercard. You just need to set the billing address to a valid US address. Their systems don't seem to check the actual billing address on file with the CC company. Or if they do, they just don't care ;-)

feliksas.laukys said:
Good evening All,
So, I recently bought a Nook Simple Touch from a 3rd party retailer so that I could purchase it from Canada. The main selling point for me was that it was rootable.
Well, having used it for a few weeks, I must say, I'm disappointed. It's ridiculous that I can't buy *any* legit books from Barnes and Nobles, *including* free books which are available elsewhere; I understand restrictions on certain items, but Classic, free books, really?
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Not true. The ONLY thing you can't do from canada is buy the nst from the b&n website. You can download all free content without any credit card, and you can buy priced books, even with a canadian card with a canadian billing address.
Second, the perks of having a rooted device are limited at the moment. I find the process still somewhat buggy, and many of the Marketplace apps I've downloaded, most notably the Kindle app, either don't work or crash on launch.
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Expecting applications demanding a COLOR LCD to work 100% on an eink device is inappropriate.
Third, if one has problems with the device, the exchange process is significantly more inconvenient than for a US citizen. In my case, I need to go through the 3rd party re-saler and must pay a 20% restocking fee. I'm already having battery issues, and trying to deal with B&N directly has not been pleasant, either--I've called for days now, get told that they're experiencing an unusual number of calls, and instead of being put onto hold, I get hung up on.
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You bought it under the table and expect normal warranty process? Further, your "battery issue" is due to root. You have processes running in the background preventing it from sleeping, and draining your battery. Go into market and set it to NEVER NOTIFY YOU OF UPDATES. That will take care of MOST of it.
For these reasons--that I can't even download legit books, that the rooting process gives me little benefit, and that tech support seems nearly impossible, I recommend against this item. I am going to return it and get either a Kindle or Kobo.
Has anyone else had any experiences with buying an Nook outside of the US? I'd be curious to hear your opinions.
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As a Canadian with a NST, 4 actually, I can't agree with ANYthing you've stated. You are 100% incorrect on all accounts.

dhkr234 said:
Not true. The ONLY thing you can't do from canada is buy the nst from the b&n website. You can download all free content without any credit card, and you can buy priced books, even with a canadian card with a canadian billing address.
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You need a card punched into the Nook to 'purchase' free books from B&N.

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Opera 8.6, how's it working for you?

I'm wondering what the experience has been for people using Opera 8.6. I installed the free beta version months ago, which is working, and I'm wondering if it is worth it to buy the latest retail version.
Any Opera users care to comment on their experience?
Generally I find this a good browser but there a few problems which I must mention:-
1) One cannot configure it to store its Cache to SD card. There are ways around this but nothing out of the box.
2) For large web pages with graphics and annimations vertical scrolling becomes really painful as the page does not scroll smoothly with the vertical bar. This gets really really annoying at times.
3) There is a slight lag between pressing of a link and the browser responding. You tend to press the link repeatedly thinking the browser has not responded and then it hangs. However this is something you soon get used to so not that much of a problem.
4) Quite often it does not load the page fully and gets stuck towards the last bits of the page. This is more so for pages with annimations. The progress bar gets stuck when the page has almost been downloaded and only a small percent is left. You then have to refresh the page and usually the 2nd attempt gets you through the full page.
4) The worst problem for me which has really limited its use is that once you have used this it stops some other programs to start and you have to soft-reset. Typical examples are Netfront, Planmaker and Textmaker. After using Opera and having killed it these programs will often not start without a soft-reset.
As I said at the start it is still a good browser and so I am not mentioning the good things but these are just the glitches which seriously mar the user experience of an otherwise good product. In fact though I have a registered version I find myself using it less and less and prefering Netfront over it simply of some of the annoying bugs I mention.
Regards
I agree with smrz completely, and have suffered from the issues outlined, but I'd like to add:
- Opera 8.6 can't handle some pages very well (I'm thinking of the Yahoo pages where you need to log in). It just doesn't render them in any sort of useable fashion.
Having said this, I still use it as my main browser, and find that in combination with PIE, then I can do pretty much everything I want on the web.
Cheers,
Steve.
are there any differences between the beta version and the retail version?
1) One cannot configure it to store its Cache to SD card. There are ways around this but nothing out of the box.
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Here a post I wrote on moving cache of Opera on SD card...
http://www.planete-htc.com/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&cat=101&id=5514
Open opera.ini file, go to [User Prefs]. At the end of that paragraph, write that ligne
Cache Directory4=\Storage Card\x with x the folder you choosed for cache on your SD.
For french roms, Storage Card must be replaced by Carte de Stockage
Opera is not perfect, but is largely better than other mobile browers...
Thanks for the input. I'm not sure I will pay for the retail version at this point.
Re: the difference between beta version and latest retail version, I'm sure there are many and would depend on the beta version. Main one that comes to mind is that I understand the retail version has a tabbed browser interface while my old beta version does not.
I wonder if Opera mobile will ever support Java?
opera 8.5/8.6 does not support java & javascript?
what about vbscript?
Where do we copy the opera.dll
I am running a trial version. Have the cracked opera.dll file. Where do I copy this to in order to prevent the 30 days to run up?
;1040241 said:
I am running a trial version. Have the cracked opera.dll file. Where do I copy this to in order to prevent the 30 days to run up?
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Here's an idea: how about *paying* for it? I mean, it's only $24 or about 2% the RRP of an HTC Universal. Don't try to kid yourself that circumventing anti-piracy measures is anything other than stealing. If you use a cracked copy, you are a theif.
I agree I always buy software. I have 50+ apps on my IIs and all are paid for you, shouldn't try and steal money from hard working developers who are trying to make a living.
I am finding Opera 8.60 retail to be AWESOME!
In fact, I ditched the JasJar some months ago and have been using a JAM for some time. I only bought a new JJ cos of Opera on VGA. It's rendering most pages such as my online banking (which PIE cocked up completely), it zooms perfectly, and it's just amazing! If WM5 had come out with a decent broser on day one it would have driven operator ARPU's and internet usage. Now I have google with me wherever I go. I kind of had it on my JAM, but not really with that crappy low res screen.
This is a no brainer app and worth every cent!
Piracy
Nice thinking and have no objection. But if you got something for the first time you simply dont go about splashing money around. It is only fare that I want to make use of it, see & decide. If you check 8.6 is not the latest version it is an old version. By paying I would now be getting v9 (see I checked it and am planning to) but need to see if it is what I need / want.
Stereotyping aint really good. Peace anyway....
PS: Besides doing this kind of stuff is always the best way of learning the logic, structure of how a device works. And that is my main interest in these stuff. Not getting all for free. Thanks for your comments anyway...
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Nice thinking and have no objection. But if you got something for the first time you simply dont go about splashing money around. It is only fare that I want to make use of it, see & decide. If you check 8.6 is not the latest version it is an old version. By paying I would now be getting v9 (see I checked it and am planning to) but need to see if it is what I need / want.
Stereotyping aint really good. Peace anyway....
PS: Besides doing this kind of stuff is always the best way of learning the logic, structure of how a device works. And that is my main interest in these stuff. Not getting all for free. Thanks for your comments anyway...
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yust for info...8.6(with the bug correction version 8.6u1) is the last and the only opera for ppc version ever done. Version 9 is for PC...if I'm wrong excuse me and tell me were you find the ver 9 for ppc...
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Massimo
bbaytu said:
Nice thinking and have no objection. But if you got something for the first time you simply dont go about splashing money around.
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I'm using Opera on the trial. 30 days is plenty of time to make your mind up. If you don't really use it enough to make up your mind in that time, then don't buy it. If you do, buy it. $24 really is next to nothing for a product. That wouldn't a decent sandwich, cake and a cup of tea!
It is only fare that I want to make use of it, see & decide. If you check 8.6 is not the latest version it is an old version. By paying I would now be getting v9 (see I checked it and am planning to) but need to see if it is what I need / want.
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They provide a trial for that purpose. If they didn't, I still wouldn't agree. Afterall, I can't try out a holiday before I buy it and if I don't like the terms, I can simple boycott the product.
Stereotyping aint really good. Peace anyway....
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I'd hardly call it stereotyping. Stereotyping is painting a group with a broad brush and, in doing so, encompassing more than rightfully fit the description. However, calling all pirates theives is not stereotyping as all piracy is theft.
PS: Besides doing this kind of stuff is always the best way of learning the logic, structure of how a device works. And that is my main interest in these stuff. Not getting all for free. Thanks for your comments anyway...
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I know I'm on a very high horse here, but I cannot and will not tolerate piracy. It *does* hurt people (developers, distributers, support staff, everyone in the chain and their families) and they only reason why it's not as widely regarded as wrong is because everyone knows they will more than likely get away with it. Steal Opera is no better than stealing a wallet or an item of jewellery or anything else. It's ALL theft.
I'm using an early beta that does not have the 30 day limit.
Am I stealing?
The reason I posted the question is because I am not averse to paying for a good finished product. It seems craigiecraig4 (if I have the name spelled right) would say that Opera 8.6 is a good finished product.
That is the type of opinion I was soliciting.
I think anyone who has a beta version of software on there device have in a way paid for it because they put there device on the line to test the product.
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opera 8.5/8.6 does not support java & javascript?
what about vbscript?
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It does support JS but doesn't support Java.
ALL: Please DO read my web browser reviews. The vast majority of the questions asked in this thread have already been answered / explained in there.
bonisalive said:
Here a post I wrote on moving cache of Opera on SD card...
http://www.planete-htc.com/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&cat=101&id=5514
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An English tutorial is at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=916&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
Menneisyys said:
It does support JS but doesn't support Java.
ALL: Please DO read my web browser reviews. The vast majority of the questions asked in this thread have already been answered / explained in there.
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Dude - your articles are GREAT! Going thro many of your past posts now...keep it up!

Got my Xoom

Yay for my local Verizon dealer, who made good on his promise and sold me 2 Xooms today.
Initial impressions are very good... but with only 7 apps in the Android Market for tablets, the community clearly has a long way to go.
Here's your fun fact so far: there's an LED near the Verizon logo that blinks when you get a notification.
Now, if you wouldnt mind... could you not play with it at all for the next 12 hours and just have it run a video loop while connected to 3g and wifi to guage the battery?
Come on, think of the service that you'll be providing. We'd totally owe you one.
Are you able to download normal apps not made for tablets?
Or are you limited to only applications for tablets in the Market?
alee said:
Yay for my local Verizon dealer, who made good on his promise and sold me 2 Xooms today.
Initial impressions are very good... but with only 7 apps in the Android Market for tablets, the community clearly has a long way to go.
Here's your fun fact so far: there's an LED near the Verizon logo that blinks when you get a notification.
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Did you confirm what we heard that if you purchase through a VZ store no activation is required?
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Are you able to download normal apps not made for tablets?
Or are you limited to only applications for tablets in the Market?
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For now, you can sideload apps via the browser, but you need to go to Settings > Applications and check off Unknown sources.
For whatever reason, I can see some, but not all the Market apps. Compatibility flag maybe? Went looking for Beejive and it didn't show up. Might need to be updated to use the Honeycomb APIs?
I notice the apple bluetooth keyboard... does that work with it?
I only ask because I have one and sometimes I know apple products can be sort of a b#$^@ when it comes to connecting to off-apple brand items.
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Did you confirm what we heard that if you purchase through a VZ store no activation is required?
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I was getting contracts for both, so I didn't ask.
Note: neither of my devices are currently activated -- Verizon's systems apparently won't activate any Xooms just yet, so mine will be turned on tomorrow morning. For now it's Wi-Fi, and there was no problem getting it to work without the activation.
It hasn't been released yet, maybe Google has some tweaking to do in their systems overnight before apps show up. 7 apps doesn't sound right..
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I notice the apple bluetooth keyboard... does that work with it?
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Just tried it. Pairs and works fine. When you pair, it discovers the keyboard, and asks you to type a 4 digit code + enter on the Apple keyboard. Then all systems go.
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It hasn't been released yet, maybe Google has some tweaking to do in their systems overnight before apps show up. 7 apps doesn't sound right..
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Could be. Note that the app store did update itself upon first launch.
Ya feel like prying the back off of one of them and checking on the true size of the battery? Does it say what the size is on the box by chance?
muyoso said:
Ya feel like prying the back off of one of them and checking on the true size of the battery? Does it say what the size is on the box by chance?
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+1
Thanks
If you go to the new Android Market on PC, you can find a NYTimes Android Application for Tablets. Can you possibly have that downloaded to your Xoom and give it a try?
Here is a link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nytimes.android.tablet&feature=search_result
+4 on the battery requests
Alee!
Open up the Xoom and tell us what mAh battery size is inside that sucker? We need to put something to rest.. claim is that it's 3250mAh.. we're hoping this is a mistake and it's actually much larger.
Anyone know how to get to the battery? I see 2 screws at the bottom, but I can't mess with those right now as I'm syncing over a ton of stuff to the tablet.
alee said:
Anyone know how to get to the battery? I see 2 screws at the bottom, but I can't mess with those right now as I'm syncing over a ton of stuff to the tablet.
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Yeah I saw somewhere, cannot remember where, but you have to remove some screws.
Surprised that Engadget or another site hasn't tore the Xoom apart to see all the bits and pieces and see what everything is already.
Sort of odd. Then again those no real reviews from sites either... just a wirefly guy unboxing it and talking too much about things he seems to know little about.
Question; How much did you spend out of the door total ($960-$970)?
All the major sites have posted their reviews and all concur that battery life is awesome. So who cares about the size as long as you get the life?
Its all about the power consumption and not about the battery size
Sent from my TMO custom Tab
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Question; How much did you spend out of the door total ($960-$970)?
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$800 each + tax. So I didn't get the Verizon price for contract but totally worth it to get it a day early.

[Q] Verizon users - how to delete backup assistant?

So when I got my phone 2 days ago the verizon guy INSISTED on downloading and installing backup assistant when I specifically tried to cancel it because I don't need it (your data backs up to google, but he says "well now you will be double backed up" I don't need a double backup!). To avoid an argument i just figured whatever I'll just delete it when I get home, well low and behold you can't uninstall this app now that its installed!
So is there any way to delete this app without rooting the phone? I don't want to root it, it runs fine for my needs as is, and I have other rooted android devices (tablets) for when I want to play and experiment. Any ideas?
Rogue Leader said:
So when I got my phone 2 days ago the verizon guy INSISTED on downloading and installing backup assistant when I specifically tried to cancel it because I don't need it (your data backs up to google, but he says "well now you will be double backed up" I don't need a double backup!). To avoid an argument i just figured whatever I'll just delete it when I get home, well low and behold you can't uninstall this app now that its installed!
So is there any way to delete this app without rooting the phone? I don't want to root it, it runs fine for my needs as is, and I have other rooted android devices (tablets) for when I want to play and experiment. Any ideas?
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Umm, every Xplay device at my store has BackUp Assistance already on it including mine. Didn't download it. Pretty much every Android device on VZW (except Devour, Droid 1 and Eris) all had this preinstalled and to get rid of it you need a root.
Also, I realize that he might have insisted in turning on the backup assistance feature on your phone but please understand, we get rated by VZW on how many smartphones we sell and our stores get rated on how many phones we turn Backup Assistance on. It is one of our requirements to do for every phone activation since they made it a free service. Verizon got tired of everyone complaining that there was no easy free way to back up your contacts in case the phones were damaged so it is a program that they have as bloatware on every device and if we dont put it on e100% of devices we get questioned if we forgot or the customer said they didn't want it or a plethora of things. The Backup Assistance does not really hurt anything except use up like 5.8mb of memory and check your contacts nightly for a backup. I mean yes you have an Adnroid device, it back's up to google. What would happen if the next time you got a phone you chose you dont like Android anymore? That BlackBerry looks good, or god forbid the iPhone 6g (lol) This at least gives you a quick contact backup to another device other then android.
Moral of my story is he was doing his job so he can keep his job, don't blame him, blame VZW. ^_^
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Umm, every Xplay device at my store has BackUp Assistance already on it including mine. Didn't download it. Pretty much every Android device on VZW (except Devour, Droid 1 and Eris) all had this preinstalled and to get rid of it you need a root.
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Ok, I thought I heard him say that it needed to be downloaded, because when I hit no he went back and did something but I didn't see what.
Moral of my story is he was doing his job so he can keep his job, don't blame him, blame VZW. ^_^
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I understand that having worked in retail myself before, which is why when he insisted it needed to be installed I just let him do what he had to do figuring I have the ability to change it afterwards anyway.
And yes I blame VZW, but more people for needing their devices to be stupid proof, hence the popularity of the iPhone (wouldn't be caught dead owning one).
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Ok, I thought I heard him say that it needed to be downloaded, because when I hit no he went back and did something but I didn't see what.
I understand that having worked in retail myself before, which is why when he insisted it needed to be installed I just let him do what he had to do figuring I have the ability to change it afterwards anyway.
And yes I blame VZW, but more people for needing their devices to be stupid proof, hence the popularity of the iPhone (wouldn't be caught dead owning one).
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I wouldn't neither lol.
Anyway when ever we first power up a new device after we have it activated in the system we are shown the activation screen on the android devices. In our phones case, the Green Android. After we call in *228 Option 1 and the phone programs itself the very next thing that pops up is Google, then Backup Assistant, then the "Other Account" screen. I mean if you really don't want it running Hard Reset the phone. And start over skipping the activation of backup assistant. I have no idea if this would make it still run in the background or not but it would stop it from uploading and downloading your contact information every day.
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I wouldn't neither lol.
Anyway when ever we first power up a new device after we have it activated in the system we are shown the activation screen on the android devices. In our phones case, the Green Android. After we call in *228 Option 1 and the phone programs itself the very next thing that pops up is Google, then Backup Assistant, then the "Other Account" screen. I mean if you really don't want it running Hard Reset the phone. And start over skipping the activation of backup assistant. I have no idea if this would make it still run in the background or not but it would stop it from uploading and downloading your contact information every day.
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I'd imagine it will still run in the background and ask me to set it up which would be annoying too. Not worth hard reseting the phone so I'll just live with it unless I decide to root it some day.
JasonKnight said:
I wouldn't neither lol.
Anyway when ever we first power up a new device after we have it activated in the system we are shown the activation screen on the android devices. In our phones case, the Green Android. After we call in *228 Option 1 and the phone programs itself the very next thing that pops up is Google, then Backup Assistant, then the "Other Account" screen. I mean if you really don't want it running Hard Reset the phone. And start over skipping the activation of backup assistant. I have no idea if this would make it still run in the background or not but it would stop it from uploading and downloading your contact information every day.
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I can confirm that even when you do a full hard reset, that it still runs in the background even if you don't want it and even if it is not in the set-up account list. It is set as a system service, and uses about 2.3-6MB of active memory, and around 15MB total memory (I think this includes linked libraries). Also, it is correct in that it can't be removed unless the phone is rooted. Which VZW was kind enough to lock us out of, and make sure that SonyEricsson wouldn't allow us a method to unlock the bootloader (despite SE's general policy).
Oh yes, I completely blame Big Red on this one. They should not have services running in the background that are not absolutely neccessary to the running of the phone. These extraneous services are part of what slow down phones and fill them with junk.
Also, VZW forcing an agreement with GameLoft for them to only allow R800x (the Verizon CDMA version of Xperia Play) to only be obtained directly through the VZWapps store (at an inflated cost, and with zero support) is also directly attributed to Verizon and their heavy handed tactics. Every game in the Play Launcher under "More Games" all link to the VZWapps store and not android market nor the direct creators web store. On top of that, the links are often non-functioning, and the store is often broken or down.
If you can't tell, I'm _VERY_ unhappy with VZW as a company. The local salespeople and techs? I'm happy with them.
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I can confirm that even when you do a full hard reset, that it still runs in the background even if you don't want it and even if it is not in the set-up account list. It is set as a system service, and uses about 2.3-6MB of active memory, and around 15MB total memory (I think this includes linked libraries). Also, it is correct in that it can't be removed unless the phone is rooted. Which VZW was kind enough to lock us out of, and make sure that SonyEricsson wouldn't allow us a method to unlock the bootloader (despite SE's general policy).
Oh yes, I completely blame Big Red on this one. They should not have services running in the background that are not absolutely neccessary to the running of the phone. These extraneous services are part of what slow down phones and fill them with junk.
Also, VZW forcing an agreement with GameLoft for them to only allow R800x (the Verizon CDMA version of Xperia Play) to only be obtained directly through the VZWapps store (at an inflated cost, and with zero support) is also directly attributed to Verizon and their heavy handed tactics. Every game in the Play Launcher under "More Games" all link to the VZWapps store and not android market nor the direct creators web store. On top of that, the links are often non-functioning, and the store is often broken or down.
If you can't tell, I'm _VERY_ unhappy with VZW as a company. The local salespeople and techs? I'm happy with them.
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As much as I love the phone Verizon completely ruins the experience that Sony Ericsson tried to have the phone give the consumer. I am ashamed at what they locked us out of and hell I sell their products.
Honestly I am wondering where the hell our PS1 Exclusive titles are that are redone for our phones... One would assume that this could have been plugged into the PS3 and PSN to download the PS1 titles and maybe even then Mini's but that isn't even available for this PlayStation Certified phone.
Part of me regrets the purchase but I still get to play NES, SNES, Atari, Genesis, Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, MAME, PS1 (FPse) and alot of other things that are on the market with it, but whats a playstation phone with no PSN and 1 Playstation game... and honestly I hated Crash back when it was new... I wish I could uninstall the POS.
This actually reminds me of a question I had. Should you download these games from the market instead do they
a) still support the control pad
b) still show up in the launcher
And yeah.. where the hell are all the games? Aren't there way more games available in Europe?
PS this by far is not the first time this has happened with them. I bought a Motorola v710 when it came out with VZW and while it advertised all the cool BT things you could do (file transfer, tethering, syncing, etc) verizon locked out everything except support for headsets and speakerphones, to force people to use vcast and other paid for services, but didn't tell anyone. Needless to say after a class action lawsuit that they lost they had to offer to buy back every v710 + accessories etc and give the person a new phone of their choice, or cash, AND let you out of your contract with no penalty. I ended up getting a RAZR which the lovely verizon version omitted the microSD slot.
Rogue Leader said:
This actually reminds me of a question I had. Should you download these games from the market instead do they
a) still support the control pad
b) still show up in the launcher
And yeah.. where the hell are all the games? Aren't there way more games available in Europe?
PS this by far is not the first time this has happened with them. I bought a Motorola v710 when it came out with VZW and while it advertised all the cool BT things you could do (file transfer, tethering, syncing, etc) verizon locked out everything except support for headsets and speakerphones, to force people to use vcast and other paid for services, but didn't tell anyone. Needless to say after a class action lawsuit that they lost they had to offer to buy back every v710 + accessories etc and give the person a new phone of their choice, or cash, AND let you out of your contract with no penalty. I ended up getting a RAZR which the lovely verizon version omitted the microSD slot.
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The original GSM RAZR's did not have a MicroSD slot in them either.
the V3i RAZR had the MicroSD slot. (the one with the 1.3MP Camera)
Anyway I have quite a few games downloaded from the Android Market.
Lemme make a list...
Illusia - Partial Controller Support
Zenonia 1, 2, & 3 - Partial Controller Support
Baseball Superstars 2010 - Controller Works for me
baseball Superstars 2011 - Controller works for me.
GameDevStory - Nope
Gurk 1 & 2 - Nope
Wordsmith - nope
JasonKnight said:
The original GSM RAZR's did not have a MicroSD slot in them either.
the V3i RAZR had the MicroSD slot. (the one with the 1.3MP Camera)
Anyway I have quite a few games downloaded from the Android Market.
Lemme make a list...
Illusia - Partial Controller Support
Zenonia 1, 2, & 3 - Partial Controller Support
Baseball Superstars 2010 - Controller Works for me
baseball Superstars 2011 - Controller works for me.
GameDevStory - Nope
Gurk 1 & 2 - Nope
Wordsmith - nope
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They don't show up in the game launcher though right?
PS Just realized they have this VZNavigator on here too... Yes because I'm going to pay for nav services when google is on the phone for free.
Rogue Leader said:
They don't show up in the game launcher though right?
PS Just realized they have this VZNavigator on here too... Yes because I'm going to pay for nav services when google is on the phone for free.
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only Zenonia 1 and 2 show up in it, the others dont.
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only Zenonia 1 and 2 show up in it, the others dont.
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Cool ok.
I tried going to Gameloft's app store website and it seemed to allow me to download a "R800x" version of any game they had. I didn't buy any but it didn't put up any roadblocks. do you know if those games would go into the launcher? Many are not available from the Launcher's list.
Also, why for example does assassins creed show a "subscription" for $2.99 or "first download" for $6.99, whats the subscription?
Either way if I did buy that game id go straight to gameloft as its 2 bucks cheaper there and its buy one get one free this month!
http://www.gameloft.com/android-hd-games/?ms_sid=4&country=223&bogof=true&adid=162175&ms_sid=4
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Cool ok.
I tried going to Gameloft's app store website and it seemed to allow me to download a "R800x" version of any game they had. I didn't buy any but it didn't put up any roadblocks. do you know if those games would go into the launcher? Many are not available from the Launcher's list.
Also, why for example does assassins creed show a "subscription" for $2.99 or "first download" for $6.99, whats the subscription?
Either way if I did buy that game id go straight to gameloft as its 2 bucks cheaper there and its buy one get one free this month!
http://www.gameloft.com/android-hd-games/?ms_sid=4&country=223&bogof=true&adid=162175&ms_sid=4
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subscription gets you the full game but you pay 2.99 a month that you have the subscription, this is best if you wanna try the game out or know you will beat it in a month, but 99 times out of 100 buying it is better.
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subscription gets you the full game but you pay 2.99 a month that you have the subscription, this is best if you wanna try the game out or know you will beat it in a month, but 99 times out of 100 buying it is better.
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Yeah I agree, I mean for $5 through gameloft as opposed to the V-Cast highway robbery store, its a no brainer
i like my play but then again sometimes i dont. it was this or the droid x2. droid x2 looks sooo much better but then again i play alot of games, now the droid bionic is coming and wish i would of waited for that lol that phone looks like a beast
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Yeah I agree, I mean for $5 through gameloft as opposed to the V-Cast highway robbery store, its a no brainer
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Ohh and I attempted to use Gamelofts store to purchase a game, said my credit card was invalid. umm it isnt, it is what I use for everything. Not to mention their store is a ***** to navigate through. Long story short, cant buy anything on their website for my phone.
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Ohh and I attempted to use Gamelofts store to purchase a game, said my credit card was invalid. umm it isnt, it is what I use for everything. Not to mention their store is a ***** to navigate through. Long story short, cant buy anything on their website for my phone.
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Hmm... I kinda wanna try it myself just to see.... That would be really crazy if they were able to lock out website purchases.
I love how the games are mysteriously missing from the Android Market....
Gameloft's games are not missing "mysteriously". Gameloft dropped them from the Market.
Logseman said:
Gameloft's games are not missing "mysteriously". Gameloft dropped them from the Market.
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Ahh I was under the impression that Verizon blocked the apps on the market as I have seen with other apps on other devices in the past, to force you to purchase for $2 more through the Vcast store. Is this just new games or something? I see Apshalt 6, NOVA 2, and Modern Combat 2 in the Market on the web (for the same price Verizon sells at) for example, but Assassins Creed HD is not there.

Remote Wipe Stolen a500

Hey guys and gals,
Tonight my a500 was stolen. I work in sales and use it to look things on the net for customers (like price comparisons, etc) and use it for the website and lots of other business-type things (as well as lots of personal pics etc).
But, unfortunately when my back was turned, someone swiped it...!!!! argh:angry:
I had the newest release of jellybean on it from the forums here on xda, but had no remote wipe app installed (never even crossed my mind to do it). Therefore, I'm wondering if the is any remote wipe abilities in jellybean or if there was an app by chance that i had installed that would have this feature hidden (like onavo or norton utilities... reading now).
If anyone can help that would be amazing! Changed all my passwords, etc. So, I should be fine there. thanks guys
k
kylereid said:
Hey guys and gals,
Tonight my a500 was stolen. I work in sales and use it to look things on the net for customers (like price comparisons, etc) and use it for the website and lots of other business-type things (as well as lots of personal pics etc).
But, unfortunately when my back was turned, someone swiped it...!!!! argh:angry:
I had the newest release of jellybean on it from the forums here on xda, but had no remote wipe app installed (never even crossed my mind to do it). Therefore, I'm wondering if the is any remote wipe abilities in jellybean or if there was an app by chance that i had installed that would have this feature hidden (like onavo or norton utilities... reading now).
If anyone can help that would be amazing! Changed all my passwords, etc. So, I should be fine there. thanks guys
k
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Sorry mate. Not a lot you can do about it at this time.
Just cherish the thought of what's going to happen when he decides jb is too buggy, and tries to install a different rom. :laugh:
I suppose a new user will be posting all kinds of questions here at xda in the near future!
Still sorry to hear it got pinched. I know the feeling.
MD
thanks man. thought i was buggered lol. I left a facebook update that i hope shows up on the notifications in the tablet and make the culprit feel guilty. maybe it'll show up in the morning at work... fingers crossed. made me look at getting a wipe app for the old phone now, went with seekdroid. seems legit. any other suggestions?
kylereid said:
thanks man. thought i was buggered lol. I left a facebook update that i hope shows up on the notifications in the tablet and make the culprit feel guilty. maybe it'll show up in the morning at work... fingers crossed. made me look at getting a wipe app for the old phone now, went with seekdroid. seems legit. any other suggestions?
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Well, I don't have a lot of faith in those types of apps. They usually only work if an idiot steals it. Over here, pinching phones and tabs is big business, and usually done by pro's. They're quick to dump the device to another agent, who runs a stock full rom on it, clones the IMEI number from a good device , then dumps it to one of the umpteen million fly by night resellers. They (moscow govt) talked about cracking down on multiple PH number/IMEI combinations, then quickly realized over half the devices in Russia would stop working! Including their own!
Best thing to do, never let it out of your sight. Get a new device, like I did my phone, and the pain goes away.
But then again, maybe your culprit is a true idiot, and will post fotos to your facebook account!!!!!
MD
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
Did you try that Plan B yet or is that just over advertised junk?
Moscow Desire said:
Well, I don't have a lot of faith in those types of apps. They usually only work if an idiot steals it. Over here, pinching phones and tabs is big business, and usually done by pro's. They're quick to dump the device to another agent, who runs a stock full rom on it, clones the IMEI number from a good device , then dumps it to one of the umpteen million fly by night resellers. They (moscow govt) talked about cracking down on multiple PH number/IMEI combinations, then quickly realized over half the devices in Russia would stop working! Including their own!
Best thing to do, never let it out of your sight. Get a new device, like I did my phone, and the pain goes away.
But then again, maybe your culprit is a true idiot, and will post fotos to your facebook account!!!!!
MD
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The last person to steal one of my phones was a true idiot. This happened at my school and good thing I'm done with school. I was in class and had my phone charging and I had it out because I trusted most everyone in the room and would known who would have taken it.
So he asked if it was my phone and about a minute later he leaves the room. I noticed it was gone and others around me saw him take it. (Not obvious at all)
So I had the Vipre Mobile Security beta installed so I immediately logged into the web interface to activate GPS tracking and set off the alarm. Except when I logged in the service hadn't communicated when the app/phone in over a month so it was useless.
Over the period of the next 24 hours he had used the phone to take photos, delete everything on my sdcard, spam my YouTube feed with countless videos, and make voice calls to their own friends and family. So I looked on my carrier's account management and found all these numbers. Between the school staff and police it was possible to track the calls back to his identity. I got my phone back the next day...without the case and screen protector, sucks that they kept that.
So the lesson is make sure you have good, working anti theft solutions with cascading failsafes.
The next app I installed after ditching Vipre was Avast. This was a good solution with some flaws. Avast was one of the first Play Store security apps to utilize root access. Because of root in addition to setting as a device administrator it was also installed as a system service and app. This made it persistent and harder to remove.
The issue with avast was since the app was in /system and not /data it would have to be completely reconfigured after flashing each nightly update. Sometimes I'd forget and then it wouldn't work. It claimed to support the CM backup script except it was designed for CM7 and CM9 uses a different type of backup.
The other issue with avast was there was no web interface. You could only send commands through SMS.
Since I got my Nexus I bought Cerberus anti theft its perfect. It has system app support. Instead of a user setup it apparently registers the device ID or SIM or something and loads the user account from the cloud server. So all I do is add the apk to the CM backup list and it auto configures when installed. I can use SMS control or the website. I can monitor and control pretty much the entire phone and it takes a front camera photo on invalid pass code.
I check weekly to ensure its still running and it hasn't failed once.
As a failsafe I also have the first screen splash modded to my contact info in case of loss. Its encrypted so if anything maybe only a boot loader update could remove it.
chismay said:
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
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I think that only works if you accept all the tracking disclaimers to enable location history and not many people have history turned on.
I guess the lesson is you can't let your guard down for even a second. One time I let a friend sync their iPod touch on my computer since they didn't have a PC and they ended up snatching my classic monochrome iPod. I'm still upset to this day since they didn't take my old iPod touch instead. That just proves the first gen iPod touch is so bad people won't even steal it.
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I think that only works if you accept all the tracking disclaimers to enable location history and not many people have history turned on.
I guess the lesson is you can't let your guard down for even a second. One time I let a friend sync their iPod touch on my computer since they didn't have a PC and they ended up snatching my classic monochrome iPod. I'm still upset to this day since they didn't take my old iPod touch instead. That just proves the first gen iPod touch is so bad people won't even steal it.
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oh yea def' just thought for pot-luck ,
it is a pitty when you let someone come into your house as a friendly gesture only to find them stealing from you,... ive had my fair share and also a fair share of miss-understandings thereafter because of a newly aquired paranoia..... but i think its 100% justified.
If you download the lookout app and install it, if you ever lose your tablet, on the lookout website you can see where it is, (if GPS was enabled when lost) you can also do a remote wipe, and a remote siren, make it put off an alarm remotely.
Its a good app to have just in case, but doesn't help if the app was not installed before being lost or stolen.
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lifeofcoding said:
If you download the lookout app and install it, if you ever lose your tablet, on the lookout website you can see where it is, (if GPS was enabled when lost) you can also do a remote wipe, and a remote siren, make it put off an alarm remotely.
Its a good app to have just in case, but doesn't help if the app was not installed before being lost or stolen.
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yeah sound like the prey app too , i can also send a popup message to the tab screen, be near the location displayed on the map and then activate a "S-SCARING" siren lol
also one good thing is prey uses the location services through wifi as well as gps, tells you the address of the current and last wifi hotspots logged into
so if it says currently "wii hotspot mcdonalds fast food , thief street. lol go to the mcdonalds and set off the alarms,...clearly see your tablet...and a jackass who need a beating. :highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive:
chismay said:
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
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hey man, great idea! no luck...
and thanks guys for al of the advice! still no luck with the tab i think the worst part of it is was that i was really getting to love it. like the development here, especially with jb!, is fantastic. and i was a kickstarter supporter for chameleon and now seeing the new updates really puts salt on the wound. lol. in the next month i'll need another tablet, so im debating on finding another 2nd hand one for the price of a nexus 7, or just getting the 7. only thing is though, is the size....
thanks again.
I'm assuming you've looked into "Plan B" on the Android market, right? It automatically installs from the market on your tablet, and broadcasts location immediately on install. Not sure how accurate or helpful it is, but if you haven't tried it yet... you probably should.
The other option is to put out some Wanted To Buy ads...
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I'm assuming you've looked into "Plan B" on the Android market, right? It automatically installs from the market on your tablet, and broadcasts location immediately on install. Not sure how accurate or helpful it is, but if you haven't tried it yet... you probably should.
The other option is to put out some Wanted To Buy ads...
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i already changed the passwords, i wasn't aware of Plan B. great idea though! i tried it anyways lol.
and yeah ive been scouring kijiji and craigslist like a fiend

Very Impressed with the Amazon Fire TV (From a Canadian)

I can't overstate how impressed with this little box I am. I picked one up last month on a trip to the US (I'm from Canada) and thought I would play around with it and see how it would work in Canada. With Unblock US and an Amazon account with prime I have been able to access all my prime amazon content on it. As well as US Netflix, Hulu, ETC.
XBMC is very easily sideloaded onto it as well, with or without being rooted which opens up a whole new world of content and goodies.
And once rooted you can do even more cool stuff. I followed guides to add the google app store, remove unwanted menu options, change the launchers, add game controllers, move apps to external drive, and much more. I just installed Google Play Music and now I have complete access to my google music account on the FireTV which is very cool. I'm sure there are tons of awesome apps that work on the FTV. Another favorite is Droidmote Server so I don't keep having to unplug my external drive to use a mouse or keyboard (which many google apps need)
I sold my 2 Apple TV 2's for a very nice profit and I'm going all Fire TV. The only advantage I think to the Apple TV's is if you have itunes and are invested in the Apple Ecosystem which I was not. The menus and everything are much speedier and my ATV2's were prone to random crashes while in XBMC which drove me crazy.
I'm really looking forward to playing around more with this unit and seeing what all the development community can do with it. I think its already awesome and it has a ton of more potential.
question for you
I am in Canada also and use unblock us. Have you tried using the A&E, Lifetime or History Channel apps? For whatever reason they wont work and I am wondering if somehow they realize that you are not in the US. I have no problem with any other apps. Trying to figure out if its a Canada issue or maybe an issue with the app's of fire tv.
rotor00ter said:
I can't overstate how impressed with this little box I am. I picked one up last month on a trip to the US (I'm from Canada) and thought I would play around with it and see how it would work in Canada. With Unblock US and an Amazon account with prime I have been able to access all my prime amazon content on it. As well as US Netflix, Hulu, ETC.
XBMC is very easily sideloaded onto it as well, with or without being rooted which opens up a whole new world of content and goodies.
And once rooted you can do even more cool stuff. I followed guides to add the google app store, remove unwanted menu options, change the launchers, add game controllers, move apps to external drive, and much more. I just installed Google Play Music and now I have complete access to my google music account on the FireTV which is very cool. I'm sure there are tons of awesome apps that work on the FTV. Another favorite is Droidmote Server so I don't keep having to unplug my external drive to use a mouse or keyboard (which many google apps need)
I sold my 2 Apple TV 2's for a very nice profit and I'm going all Fire TV. The only advantage I think to the Apple TV's is if you have itunes and are invested in the Apple Ecosystem which I was not. The menus and everything are much speedier and my ATV2's were prone to random crashes while in XBMC which drove me crazy.
I'm really looking forward to playing around more with this unit and seeing what all the development community can do with it. I think its already awesome and it has a ton of more potential.
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teryaki said:
I am in Canada also and use unblock us. Have you tried using the A&E, Lifetime or History Channel apps? For whatever reason they wont work and I am wondering if somehow they realize that you are not in the US. I have no problem with any other apps. Trying to figure out if its a Canada issue or maybe an issue with the app's of fire tv.
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don't you still need a US credit card address for Unblock???? if not how did u set it up??
unblock us
You don't need a us credit card address for unblock us, it's a Canadian service from a Canadian company. You need a US credit card for the amazon service.
dillfever said:
don't you still need a US credit card address for Unblock???? if not how did u set it up??
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teryaki said:
You don't need a us credit card address for unblock us, it's a Canadian service from a Canadian company. You need a US credit card for the amazon service.
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ahh got ya.....was thinking of amazon,tanks...dill
was just on unblock us there's no info on the AFT, says there still testing.?
Yes they are still testing I guess, but rest assured it works...I use it everyday.
dillfever said:
was just on unblock us there's no info on the AFT, says there still testing.?
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teryaki said:
I am in Canada also and use unblock us. Have you tried using the A&E, Lifetime or History Channel apps? For whatever reason they wont work and I am wondering if somehow they realize that you are not in the US. I have no problem with any other apps. Trying to figure out if its a Canada issue or maybe an issue with the app's of fire tv.
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Those particular apps aren't working for me either. They just crash back to the home screen. I think its a Canada thing as unblock.us does not officially support Fire TV yet. If you get yours working let me know and I'll do the same.
Ok that sounds great, thx.
rotor00ter said:
Those particular apps aren't working for me either. They just crash back to the home screen. I think its a Canada thing as unblock.us does not officially support Fire TV yet. If you get yours working let me know and I'll do the same.
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