So when I got my phone 2 days ago the verizon guy INSISTED on downloading and installing backup assistant when I specifically tried to cancel it because I don't need it (your data backs up to google, but he says "well now you will be double backed up" I don't need a double backup!). To avoid an argument i just figured whatever I'll just delete it when I get home, well low and behold you can't uninstall this app now that its installed!
So is there any way to delete this app without rooting the phone? I don't want to root it, it runs fine for my needs as is, and I have other rooted android devices (tablets) for when I want to play and experiment. Any ideas?
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So when I got my phone 2 days ago the verizon guy INSISTED on downloading and installing backup assistant when I specifically tried to cancel it because I don't need it (your data backs up to google, but he says "well now you will be double backed up" I don't need a double backup!). To avoid an argument i just figured whatever I'll just delete it when I get home, well low and behold you can't uninstall this app now that its installed!
So is there any way to delete this app without rooting the phone? I don't want to root it, it runs fine for my needs as is, and I have other rooted android devices (tablets) for when I want to play and experiment. Any ideas?
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Umm, every Xplay device at my store has BackUp Assistance already on it including mine. Didn't download it. Pretty much every Android device on VZW (except Devour, Droid 1 and Eris) all had this preinstalled and to get rid of it you need a root.
Also, I realize that he might have insisted in turning on the backup assistance feature on your phone but please understand, we get rated by VZW on how many smartphones we sell and our stores get rated on how many phones we turn Backup Assistance on. It is one of our requirements to do for every phone activation since they made it a free service. Verizon got tired of everyone complaining that there was no easy free way to back up your contacts in case the phones were damaged so it is a program that they have as bloatware on every device and if we dont put it on e100% of devices we get questioned if we forgot or the customer said they didn't want it or a plethora of things. The Backup Assistance does not really hurt anything except use up like 5.8mb of memory and check your contacts nightly for a backup. I mean yes you have an Adnroid device, it back's up to google. What would happen if the next time you got a phone you chose you dont like Android anymore? That BlackBerry looks good, or god forbid the iPhone 6g (lol) This at least gives you a quick contact backup to another device other then android.
Moral of my story is he was doing his job so he can keep his job, don't blame him, blame VZW. ^_^
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Umm, every Xplay device at my store has BackUp Assistance already on it including mine. Didn't download it. Pretty much every Android device on VZW (except Devour, Droid 1 and Eris) all had this preinstalled and to get rid of it you need a root.
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Ok, I thought I heard him say that it needed to be downloaded, because when I hit no he went back and did something but I didn't see what.
Moral of my story is he was doing his job so he can keep his job, don't blame him, blame VZW. ^_^
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I understand that having worked in retail myself before, which is why when he insisted it needed to be installed I just let him do what he had to do figuring I have the ability to change it afterwards anyway.
And yes I blame VZW, but more people for needing their devices to be stupid proof, hence the popularity of the iPhone (wouldn't be caught dead owning one).
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Ok, I thought I heard him say that it needed to be downloaded, because when I hit no he went back and did something but I didn't see what.
I understand that having worked in retail myself before, which is why when he insisted it needed to be installed I just let him do what he had to do figuring I have the ability to change it afterwards anyway.
And yes I blame VZW, but more people for needing their devices to be stupid proof, hence the popularity of the iPhone (wouldn't be caught dead owning one).
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I wouldn't neither lol.
Anyway when ever we first power up a new device after we have it activated in the system we are shown the activation screen on the android devices. In our phones case, the Green Android. After we call in *228 Option 1 and the phone programs itself the very next thing that pops up is Google, then Backup Assistant, then the "Other Account" screen. I mean if you really don't want it running Hard Reset the phone. And start over skipping the activation of backup assistant. I have no idea if this would make it still run in the background or not but it would stop it from uploading and downloading your contact information every day.
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I wouldn't neither lol.
Anyway when ever we first power up a new device after we have it activated in the system we are shown the activation screen on the android devices. In our phones case, the Green Android. After we call in *228 Option 1 and the phone programs itself the very next thing that pops up is Google, then Backup Assistant, then the "Other Account" screen. I mean if you really don't want it running Hard Reset the phone. And start over skipping the activation of backup assistant. I have no idea if this would make it still run in the background or not but it would stop it from uploading and downloading your contact information every day.
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I'd imagine it will still run in the background and ask me to set it up which would be annoying too. Not worth hard reseting the phone so I'll just live with it unless I decide to root it some day.
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I wouldn't neither lol.
Anyway when ever we first power up a new device after we have it activated in the system we are shown the activation screen on the android devices. In our phones case, the Green Android. After we call in *228 Option 1 and the phone programs itself the very next thing that pops up is Google, then Backup Assistant, then the "Other Account" screen. I mean if you really don't want it running Hard Reset the phone. And start over skipping the activation of backup assistant. I have no idea if this would make it still run in the background or not but it would stop it from uploading and downloading your contact information every day.
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I can confirm that even when you do a full hard reset, that it still runs in the background even if you don't want it and even if it is not in the set-up account list. It is set as a system service, and uses about 2.3-6MB of active memory, and around 15MB total memory (I think this includes linked libraries). Also, it is correct in that it can't be removed unless the phone is rooted. Which VZW was kind enough to lock us out of, and make sure that SonyEricsson wouldn't allow us a method to unlock the bootloader (despite SE's general policy).
Oh yes, I completely blame Big Red on this one. They should not have services running in the background that are not absolutely neccessary to the running of the phone. These extraneous services are part of what slow down phones and fill them with junk.
Also, VZW forcing an agreement with GameLoft for them to only allow R800x (the Verizon CDMA version of Xperia Play) to only be obtained directly through the VZWapps store (at an inflated cost, and with zero support) is also directly attributed to Verizon and their heavy handed tactics. Every game in the Play Launcher under "More Games" all link to the VZWapps store and not android market nor the direct creators web store. On top of that, the links are often non-functioning, and the store is often broken or down.
If you can't tell, I'm _VERY_ unhappy with VZW as a company. The local salespeople and techs? I'm happy with them.
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I can confirm that even when you do a full hard reset, that it still runs in the background even if you don't want it and even if it is not in the set-up account list. It is set as a system service, and uses about 2.3-6MB of active memory, and around 15MB total memory (I think this includes linked libraries). Also, it is correct in that it can't be removed unless the phone is rooted. Which VZW was kind enough to lock us out of, and make sure that SonyEricsson wouldn't allow us a method to unlock the bootloader (despite SE's general policy).
Oh yes, I completely blame Big Red on this one. They should not have services running in the background that are not absolutely neccessary to the running of the phone. These extraneous services are part of what slow down phones and fill them with junk.
Also, VZW forcing an agreement with GameLoft for them to only allow R800x (the Verizon CDMA version of Xperia Play) to only be obtained directly through the VZWapps store (at an inflated cost, and with zero support) is also directly attributed to Verizon and their heavy handed tactics. Every game in the Play Launcher under "More Games" all link to the VZWapps store and not android market nor the direct creators web store. On top of that, the links are often non-functioning, and the store is often broken or down.
If you can't tell, I'm _VERY_ unhappy with VZW as a company. The local salespeople and techs? I'm happy with them.
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As much as I love the phone Verizon completely ruins the experience that Sony Ericsson tried to have the phone give the consumer. I am ashamed at what they locked us out of and hell I sell their products.
Honestly I am wondering where the hell our PS1 Exclusive titles are that are redone for our phones... One would assume that this could have been plugged into the PS3 and PSN to download the PS1 titles and maybe even then Mini's but that isn't even available for this PlayStation Certified phone.
Part of me regrets the purchase but I still get to play NES, SNES, Atari, Genesis, Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, MAME, PS1 (FPse) and alot of other things that are on the market with it, but whats a playstation phone with no PSN and 1 Playstation game... and honestly I hated Crash back when it was new... I wish I could uninstall the POS.
This actually reminds me of a question I had. Should you download these games from the market instead do they
a) still support the control pad
b) still show up in the launcher
And yeah.. where the hell are all the games? Aren't there way more games available in Europe?
PS this by far is not the first time this has happened with them. I bought a Motorola v710 when it came out with VZW and while it advertised all the cool BT things you could do (file transfer, tethering, syncing, etc) verizon locked out everything except support for headsets and speakerphones, to force people to use vcast and other paid for services, but didn't tell anyone. Needless to say after a class action lawsuit that they lost they had to offer to buy back every v710 + accessories etc and give the person a new phone of their choice, or cash, AND let you out of your contract with no penalty. I ended up getting a RAZR which the lovely verizon version omitted the microSD slot.
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This actually reminds me of a question I had. Should you download these games from the market instead do they
a) still support the control pad
b) still show up in the launcher
And yeah.. where the hell are all the games? Aren't there way more games available in Europe?
PS this by far is not the first time this has happened with them. I bought a Motorola v710 when it came out with VZW and while it advertised all the cool BT things you could do (file transfer, tethering, syncing, etc) verizon locked out everything except support for headsets and speakerphones, to force people to use vcast and other paid for services, but didn't tell anyone. Needless to say after a class action lawsuit that they lost they had to offer to buy back every v710 + accessories etc and give the person a new phone of their choice, or cash, AND let you out of your contract with no penalty. I ended up getting a RAZR which the lovely verizon version omitted the microSD slot.
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The original GSM RAZR's did not have a MicroSD slot in them either.
the V3i RAZR had the MicroSD slot. (the one with the 1.3MP Camera)
Anyway I have quite a few games downloaded from the Android Market.
Lemme make a list...
Illusia - Partial Controller Support
Zenonia 1, 2, & 3 - Partial Controller Support
Baseball Superstars 2010 - Controller Works for me
baseball Superstars 2011 - Controller works for me.
GameDevStory - Nope
Gurk 1 & 2 - Nope
Wordsmith - nope
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The original GSM RAZR's did not have a MicroSD slot in them either.
the V3i RAZR had the MicroSD slot. (the one with the 1.3MP Camera)
Anyway I have quite a few games downloaded from the Android Market.
Lemme make a list...
Illusia - Partial Controller Support
Zenonia 1, 2, & 3 - Partial Controller Support
Baseball Superstars 2010 - Controller Works for me
baseball Superstars 2011 - Controller works for me.
GameDevStory - Nope
Gurk 1 & 2 - Nope
Wordsmith - nope
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They don't show up in the game launcher though right?
PS Just realized they have this VZNavigator on here too... Yes because I'm going to pay for nav services when google is on the phone for free.
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They don't show up in the game launcher though right?
PS Just realized they have this VZNavigator on here too... Yes because I'm going to pay for nav services when google is on the phone for free.
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only Zenonia 1 and 2 show up in it, the others dont.
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only Zenonia 1 and 2 show up in it, the others dont.
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Cool ok.
I tried going to Gameloft's app store website and it seemed to allow me to download a "R800x" version of any game they had. I didn't buy any but it didn't put up any roadblocks. do you know if those games would go into the launcher? Many are not available from the Launcher's list.
Also, why for example does assassins creed show a "subscription" for $2.99 or "first download" for $6.99, whats the subscription?
Either way if I did buy that game id go straight to gameloft as its 2 bucks cheaper there and its buy one get one free this month!
http://www.gameloft.com/android-hd-games/?ms_sid=4&country=223&bogof=true&adid=162175&ms_sid=4
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Cool ok.
I tried going to Gameloft's app store website and it seemed to allow me to download a "R800x" version of any game they had. I didn't buy any but it didn't put up any roadblocks. do you know if those games would go into the launcher? Many are not available from the Launcher's list.
Also, why for example does assassins creed show a "subscription" for $2.99 or "first download" for $6.99, whats the subscription?
Either way if I did buy that game id go straight to gameloft as its 2 bucks cheaper there and its buy one get one free this month!
http://www.gameloft.com/android-hd-games/?ms_sid=4&country=223&bogof=true&adid=162175&ms_sid=4
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subscription gets you the full game but you pay 2.99 a month that you have the subscription, this is best if you wanna try the game out or know you will beat it in a month, but 99 times out of 100 buying it is better.
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subscription gets you the full game but you pay 2.99 a month that you have the subscription, this is best if you wanna try the game out or know you will beat it in a month, but 99 times out of 100 buying it is better.
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Yeah I agree, I mean for $5 through gameloft as opposed to the V-Cast highway robbery store, its a no brainer
i like my play but then again sometimes i dont. it was this or the droid x2. droid x2 looks sooo much better but then again i play alot of games, now the droid bionic is coming and wish i would of waited for that lol that phone looks like a beast
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Yeah I agree, I mean for $5 through gameloft as opposed to the V-Cast highway robbery store, its a no brainer
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Ohh and I attempted to use Gamelofts store to purchase a game, said my credit card was invalid. umm it isnt, it is what I use for everything. Not to mention their store is a ***** to navigate through. Long story short, cant buy anything on their website for my phone.
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Ohh and I attempted to use Gamelofts store to purchase a game, said my credit card was invalid. umm it isnt, it is what I use for everything. Not to mention their store is a ***** to navigate through. Long story short, cant buy anything on their website for my phone.
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Hmm... I kinda wanna try it myself just to see.... That would be really crazy if they were able to lock out website purchases.
I love how the games are mysteriously missing from the Android Market....
Gameloft's games are not missing "mysteriously". Gameloft dropped them from the Market.
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Gameloft's games are not missing "mysteriously". Gameloft dropped them from the Market.
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Ahh I was under the impression that Verizon blocked the apps on the market as I have seen with other apps on other devices in the past, to force you to purchase for $2 more through the Vcast store. Is this just new games or something? I see Apshalt 6, NOVA 2, and Modern Combat 2 in the Market on the web (for the same price Verizon sells at) for example, but Assassins Creed HD is not there.
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just curious what you guys consider sprint bloatware? and what you consider good sprint software?
The only sprint software I keep on my phone is nav and football. And even football is going bye-bye after Sunday.
I classify all applications that are not detrimental to the operation/function of the phone and can't be removed as "bloatware/crapware".
Sprint NAV
Sprint TV
NFL
Nascar
TouchWiz
Amazon MP3
Games
Allshare
etc...
Don't get me wrong, I DO use some of these applications, but I would like the option of removing them from the system without rooting.
Personally, I feel the phone should come with vanilla Android. Then, phone manufacturer's should give us the option to download and install their applications from the Market.
It's been so long since it's been on my phone I almost forgot about them. I would say NASCAR, Sprint Football, Amazon mp3, and any game that is a demo only. Sprint Navigation(telnav) is actually pretty nice but unneeded since we have Google Navigation. Obviously this just my opinion and these apps might be useful to others.
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call me noob , but i like Touch wiz , at first i didnt , but now its cool it grew on me, and your right allshare is crap , I absolutly hate it. I could never get allshare to work as it should with my pc , it woudlnt play any windows files or any video, they made me put pc share to be able to play some files
Any sprint app minus sprint nav. That one actually comes in handh
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Don't get me wrong, I DO use some of these applications, but I would like the option of removing them from the system without rooting.
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That's my definition. I like Sprint Navigation, and probably wouldn't uninstall Sprint TV. But I would still like the option to uninstall them if I decided I wanted to.
That's the difference between something being defined as a "value added pack-in" and "bloatware". I hope someday the carriers realize this.
well heres my thought on it
they should just clone bruce lee. that would solve all the issues with sprint
Bloatware:
1.Everything Sprint, Except the sprint updater and android extension which i dont know that this does?
2.Touchwiz Widgets
3.The regular android launcher considering launcher pro is simply the best and most customizable.
4. Asphault Demo (Seriously who wants to keep a stupid demo on your phone and waste space.
5.Amazon mp3, i mean its on the market if you want it and the one on the phone is probaly outdated. But this is crapware to me.
6. Media Hub: If you use it fine but again it is probaly outdated and is also on the market. I consider it crapware, waste of money to rent small screen movies or even buy when i can take any movie i have an convert it.
7.My files is bloatware., Astro is way better!!
8.Buddies now, another TW application. i dont like.
9. Email Client ( i only use gmail and have my aol accounts pop email set up on it.
10.Sprint mobile hotspot considering 30 bucks a month is rediculous considering we have a premium data fee already. I have mobile ap in replace of this
11.Qik= Sucky and outdated and is on the market. i never had any luck with video chatting very well, i use tango.
12. Youtube: The Evo Youtube is better!
13: All the live wallpapers: There are more awesome one on the market.
14: The Touchwiz Launcher: However i keep it so i can make my Mobile ap work and themes that use this framework.
Things i like that came with the phone:
Calendar
Calculator
Alarm Clock
Allshare
Memo
Music
Think Free office
Voicemail
Gmail
And any other things that came with the phone and arent listed here or on the things i consider bloatware.
A phone with android OS. Everything else is bloatware. If it is good software they want me to try then there should be a list of recommended software it should never be preinstalled much less preinstalled with no means of removal. I think good Sprint software are the plugins used for accessing their network.
Effectively, anything that can't be removed without rooting is bloatware..I personally don't mind if a carrier pre-installs bloatware..BUT it should have the option to remove it and add it any time..I mean its silly that you gotta reinstall all the "bloatware" just to update android officially via OTA...
I do not think "recommendations" to download from the market is the way to go as most consumers are average consumers...and if carriers did that it would make android sales worse in general..BUT they should give us the ability of removing them and re-installing them whenever we please without need to root...
As for the Asphalt demo...thats pure crap right there...ALL the Galaxy S come with free FULL version of Asphalt 5 available via Samsung Kies...and Sprint shafts us with a Demo preinstalled with no way to remove >.>
so in order to remove it , it must be rooted right? and from my understanding , cyanogenmod is the purest form of android ? sorry but sometimes hard to understand and see the differences between all the roms
You know the phones with the sprint id have the option to install clean which has no sprint bloatware. Kind of a step in the right direction.
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Yea I saw that on my wifes lg optimus s. although kind of odd, is sprint id in a way themeing it?
boominz28 said:
so in order to remove it , it must be rooted right? and from my understanding , cyanogenmod is the purest form of android ? sorry but sometimes hard to understand and see the differences between all the roms
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Frankenstein is very clean with nothing installed. You can pick and choose which apps to install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884075
All of it sucks to me except calculator, memo, calendar and gmail. TW grew on me too, but now I use Zeam and I can never go back to TW now. Allshare, buddies now, all the sprint stuff, music player...it stinks. Not that everything is bloatware. Some people find some of it useful. Just not to me.
For those that still want the Sprint NFL app, you send a text message to 7777 and put NFL in the body of the text message and Sprint will send you a download link.
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hi everyone.has anyone had any problems with support from gameloft.cos i have.and i have sent them many emails and no reply.its a simple request i just want to re download a game i allready paid for.i downloaded about 8 games and when i go to my account on gameloft it shows that i havnt downloaded any games at all.i have emailed them and emailed them and still no reply.i guess when you buy a game from gameloft and your phone crashes you have to pay for it again.to me that sounds like a skam.
I bought a couple games from them over the weekend. They responded within 24 hours of me emailing them with an issue (granted, not the same issue as yours). Also, I waited to speak with a live person and they were actually pretty helpful. This could just be a fluke, but I'm happy!
oddbert:
First: you might have checked your account via your wifi connection and not your wap connection or vice/versa your download history might be still there
Second: please make a topic more clear it might help more people in the future.
Third: Gameloft did a system support that actually is great but it might need some time to get a reply. Ask via the support on their site next time.
they are having a $2.99 sale. I'm getting all of them LOL
Edit: That is f'ed up. as soon as i logged in the prices are now $5
I absolutely HATE the gameloft purchasing system. It's terrible. If they want to sell their own games, they should make their own appstore for them and make it easier on all of us. Their wap based purchasing system is terrible. Even their account management system is very bad. I've had nothing but bad experiences with it.
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I absolutely HATE the gameloft purchasing system. It's terrible. If they want to sell their own games, they should make their own appstore for them and make it easier on all of us. Their wap based purchasing system is terrible. Even their account management system is very bad. I've had nothing but bad experiences with it.
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I love Gamelofts purchasing system. Far superior than Android marketplace.
Gameloft allow me to add purchase prices to my phone bill. I can't purchase anything from marketplace since I don't own a credit or debit card
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I love Gamelofts purchasing system. Far superior than Android marketplace.
Gameloft allow me to add purchase prices to my phone bill. I can't purchase anything from marketplace since I don't own a credit or debit card
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sorry but the gameloft purchase system is crap, i use paypal and am not a member, so i get no support, i cannot redownload apps and gameloft never reply to my emails i dont know why we cant have the gameloft apps in the market like the US
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sorry but the gameloft purchase system is crap, i use paypal and am not a member, so i get no support, i cannot redownload apps and gameloft never reply to my emails i dont know why we cant have the gameloft apps in the market like the US
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1. Select game
2. Select pay via phone bill
3. Type in telephone number
4. Receive unique download code via sms
5. Type in unique download code
6. Download game
System works perfect for me. Like most peoples problems on these forums, I seem to not get affected. Maybe I'm just lucky
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sorry but the gameloft purchase system is crap, i use paypal and am not a member, so i get no support, i cannot redownload apps and gameloft never reply to my emails i dont know why we cant have the gameloft apps in the market like the US
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Used PayPal as well here and never get a reply from them when contacting support due to game issues. 3 weeks and no reply. Gameloft SUCK!
It sucks that I bought Sacred Odyssey and can't play it. Still no fix for 2.3.3.
A lot of their games are rather superficial in content as well.
They look great when still, but their animations are suspect. As is their storytelling. Bugs are always prevelant in Gameloft games. Gameplay isn't always intuitive or even fun. Their DRM is a kick in the teeth as well...though it is improving. Any company that makes it harder for legitimate users is at fault in my eyes.
The only game that I think is really, really up there with the best is Asphalt 6, but that is only because I love Burnout, and it is pretty hard to mess up a racing game.
I suppose for the price of them we can't complain, but it would be nice to see some genuine developers coming to the Play, though I doubt that will ever happen.
If the PSX emulator improves dramatically or the Sony PSX gets opened up like it was on the PSP, then all these worries will dissapear.
In the meantime, will have to put up with the thousands of top quality titles on all the other emulators!
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Used PayPal as well here and never get a reply from them when contacting support due to game issues. 3 weeks and no reply. Gameloft SUCK!
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I called them. They answer the phone lol.
I had to wait a week for a download link to another game, but apart from the response time I am pleased with the purchasing and gameplay. Spider man and rainbow six are my favorite games so far.
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In the meantime, will have to put up with the thousands of top quality titles on all the other emulators!
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I only bought the phone to play some emulators and watch some movies for when i was bored at work.
I find myself playing Gameloft games more than any other activitiy.
Currently LOVING Dungeon Hunter 2. Best game so far on the Play imo. It's awesome.
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I called them. They answer the phone lol.
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No phone number for UK in Contact section of their site. Support section is just the email contact form.
to be honest i bet it'd cost more than the game I brought to contact them on the phone!
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No phone number for UK in Contact section of their site. Support section is just the email contact form.
to be honest i bet it'd cost more than the game I brought to contact them on the phone!
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for me it was a 1 800 number which is toll free.
the first time you go to customer care it only gives you an email.
Click your country, select a continent, then select your country name and go to customer care.
Let me know if that works for you.
Edit:
After doing so my country says Canada and not International.
Just get a postal address for UK.
I get call us @ our toll free number: 08082348679 for the UK
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I get call us @ our toll free number: 08082348679 for the UK
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I just get this
London
Gameloft UK Ltd
3rd Floor, 111 Buckingham Palace Road
London | SW1W 0SR
Thanks for that
Did you follow my steps?
You have to do it from the phone.
First launch the Playstation app.
go to more games.
Select a Gameloft game. It brings you to the Gameloft mobile page.
Select "More Games" from that page.
Scroll all the way down to "Your Country: international".
Select it and select "Europe"
Select "United Kingdom" (it brings you back to the list of games from Gameloft"
scroll down and select "Customer Care"
You should be on a page with a few paragraphs.
So I've been ready to upgrade since October last year (ftr, when the xperia play's first projected release date was before they went crazy pushing it back)
I'm tired to the wait for the play to come to AT&T, and there's no way in hell I'm ever going back to Verizon. Are there any severe network issues I'll encounter if I just grab an unlocked GSM one off eBay? ...or any higher end speed opportunities I'd be missing out on by not waiting to get it direct from my carrier?
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Nope. The R800a is virtually identical to the R800at that will inevitably come out on AT&T at some point. They use the same frequency bands. The only difference is that the R800at will be AT&T branded and bootloader locked, while the R800a (depending on your source) will be bootloader unlockable and unbranded. I have an R800a on AT&T and no problem using 3G.
The only problem is finding the unbranded/unlocked version. As far as I know the only R800a's out there that match this description came from a developer conference or summit of some kind. There might be a few left on eBay. Your alternative is picking up a Canadian R800a, which is SIM locked to Rogers and bootloader locked. You can SIM unlock it for a fee, and should be able to configure the APN manually for AT&T use.
Whatever you do, don't get the R800i, that is, if you care about 3G. You'll only get EDGE on AT&T
I bought the R800a from another XDA member. Its data speeds are a lot faster than my Inspire 4G was. Plus you don't have to fool with the AT&T bloat and all of the usual stuff.
The warranty will be a lot better if you waited for the at&t. Buying a lemon will ruin your life haha
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I am using one right now and you wont regret it. The data speeds are actually decent on the network and the call quality is great. Indoor signal strength could be a little stronger but haven't had a dropped call yet in two weeks. I just can't update to 2.3.3 yet.
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I am using one right now and you wont regret it. The data speeds are actually decent on the network and the call quality is great. Indoor signal strength could be a little stronger but haven't had a dropped call yet in two weeks. I just can't update to 2.3.3 yet.
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Reception overall has been terrible for me, and I've had several instances where I drop calls and then reception won't come back for another 2-3 minutes. Could be a network error in my area, but overall, I'm NOT pleased with the reception on my unlocked/unbranded R800a.
Note that you will not be able to update to 2.3.3 (not yet, and no one at SE wants to say when), and you will be locked out of many things in the Playstation Pocket App ("not supported in your region").
No idea how the warranty will work, but SE has been very kind to me over the years in regards to repairs from international/unofficial phones.
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Note that you will not be able to update to 2.3.3 (not yet, and no one at SE wants to say when), and you will be locked out of many things in the Playstation Pocket App ("not supported in your region").
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Yes you can You can get it right now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14547231#post14547231
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Yes you can You can get it right now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14547231#post14547231
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It's unofficial of course, and will that method work on an R800a? Won't the radio firmware be different since it's not the R800i? I'm a noob, so be gentle.
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It's unofficial of course, and will that method work on an R800a? Won't the radio firmware be different since it's not the R800i? I'm a noob, so be gentle.
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All you have do is get the apn setting for the phone company you use and it should work. I have a R800a and works perfectly fine
I found an excellent deal on one and snagged it as soon as I got the cash.
So I won't have to worry about it saying that something isn't supported in my region?
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I found an excellent deal on one and snagged it as soon as I got the cash.
So I won't have to worry about it saying that something isn't supported in my region?
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The Playstation Pocket and Xperia Play app are region set as soon as you connect to a carrier. So on AT&T, you won't see anything in Playstation Pocket at the moment aside from Crash Bandicoot (and search returns back the message "not supported in your region"), but FPSe works better right now anyway. Xperia Play app doesn't show the same titles as in other regions, but you can buy that stuff from other places – Gameloft's site for their games for instance.
emann56 is right, R800a of any kind can now be rooted on 2.3.3. It is unofficial, but it does work. If you want root on your device I'd go through the process 1st before even setting anything up... but that's just me. Reports are that not wiping before flashing causes problems.
So will I run into any complications if I, say, wanted to get the latest Gameloft games? Eternal Legacy, Modern Combat 2, Shadow Guardian, NOVA 2 and Sacred Odyssey are pretty much the major reasons I want this.
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So will I run into any complications if I, say, wanted to get the latest Gameloft games? Eternal Legacy, Modern Combat 2, Shadow Guardian, NOVA 2 and Sacred Odyssey are pretty much the major reasons I want this.
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I haven't. That's from the Gameloft website and has nothing to do with the Playstation Pocket app, if I'm not mistaken.
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I haven't. That's from the Gameloft website and has nothing to do with the Playstation Pocket app, if I'm not mistaken.
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Okay, okay... how would I go about officially getting Gameloft games for my Xperia PLAY exactly?
Even though my play isn't here, I went ahead and set it as my phone on the Gameloft website, and whenever I try to set up an order for a game (such as Eternal Legacy), I get stuck at the carrier screen where AT&T is not listed.
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Okay, okay... how would I go about officially getting Gameloft games for my Xperia PLAY exactly?
Even though my play isn't here, I went ahead and set it as my phone on the Gameloft website, and whenever I try to set up an order for a game (such as Eternal Legacy), I get stuck at the carrier screen where AT&T is not listed.
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AT&T blocks non-Market application installs on their branded phones which is why you can't get it to work on your current phone. The R800a is unbranded so you can choose 'Unknown sources' in settings -> applications when you get it to allow direct downloads and installs of Gameloft games (and any other APKs for that matter).
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AT&T blocks non-Market application installs on their branded phones which is why you can't get it to work on your current phone. The R800a is unbranded so you can choose 'Unknown sources' in settings -> applications when you get it to allow direct downloads and installs of Gameloft games (and any other APKs for that matter).
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No I know that. I actually have my current phone rooted, cyanogenmodded up and such so non-market apps are a synch.
What I mean is that, since most gameloft games arent on the market, I'm trying to legitimately purchase some gameloft games from gameloft's website and at&t wasn't listed as an option.
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I am using a 800a on AT&T now. Once you go onto the gameloft website it will detect you have a Xperia Play and once you purchase it will download the apk and then just install. I even purchased the UK versions while they were on sale a few weeks back and it all works the same. No worries Gameloft games download and work perfect. No AT&T involved. The phone is unlocked.
Thank you all so much!
I have it now, and it's wonderful! I was expecting to have to do all kinds of insane rooting and ROM flashing to get it to a level of competent performance, but unlocked out-of-the-box it's actually working really damn well.
If I root it though, can I wipe out some of the useless stuff? Like the Chinese Keyboard, Get Games, On Demand, Retail Demo, Ringbacks, Setup Guide, TrackID, Widgets On/Off,etc?
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Thank you all so much!
I have it now, and it's wonderful! I was expecting to have to do all kinds of insane rooting and ROM flashing to get it to a level of competent performance, but unlocked out-of-the-box it's actually working really damn well.
If I root it though, can I wipe out some of the useless stuff? Like the Chinese Keyboard, Get Games, On Demand, Retail Demo, Ringbacks, Setup Guide, TrackID, Widgets On/Off,etc?
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Sure can. I did exactly that.
adb shove iPad2post.apk to /forum/thread
Wow... okay.
So I gave my 2.3.2 Xperia Play a GingerBreak and got all them superuser goodies. Went into root explorer and cleaned out all that pre-installed Rogers stuff (that I couldn't even use if I wanted to).
...but my device was having some of the slowest booting ever so I decided to give 2.3.3 a shot... and now my root is gone :'(
I think this game is by far the best FPS for the xperia plays gamepad. I hated the controls in this game at first but grew to love it.
I set the contols to: move, Shoot, aim and use the directional pad to move and gentle taps of the rights stick to aim and it works flawlessly and very accurate.
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I think this game is by far the best FPS for the xperia plays gamepad. I hated the controls in this game at first but grew to love it.
I set the contols to: move, Shoot, aim and use the directional pad to move and gentle taps of the rights stick to aim and it works flawlessly and very accurate.
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I'm gonna go ahead and dissagre with you. I can't play that for **** whit its controls haha I think BF 2 is far more better Better controls, better graphics and so on But that's just what i think. And Rainbow six has a killer multiplayer
I dont know i think batttlefield controls are hard because you have to sort of flick or else you'll overshoot every time whereas modern combat 2 you tap on the right pad to aim. Soo much nicer to play with and alot more accurate. What setup do you use in battlefield and i'll give it a shot
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when buying from gameloft, are the installers individually signed to your device, email, phone number, or whatever to prevent piracy? you see, i lost my installer for Modern Combat 2 Black Pegasus, accidentally deleted it when cleaning my SD card so I'm asking gameloft to give me another copy and I've been asking them for ages and still no freakin solution. they just replied once asking for my details and the receipt and that was 3 weeks ago!!!
so if it's not signed and all copies are the same (among the same phone models), maybe you can share to me your APKs for the Xperia Play via PM.. I swear I bought the game! Gameloft just has a crappy customer support. :[
Gameloft games are tied to your account. You just go to the site on your phone and enter your email and phone #. It gives you a section called My Downloads.
Asking for paid games is against the rules here. Even in PM's
Well i didn't know it was to tied to the account... and the My Downloads page thing using their website isn't working (saying I haven't downloaded any when in fact I have downloaded loads of games from them) that's why I posted in their crappy forum in the first place. I'm not dumb to not know that. In fact, everything in their website that is tied to an account doesn't work.
And I'm well informed of that no-warez rule here that's why I was asking FIRST in my previous post if it is tied to the account because if it's not there's no license thing to it. Since you said it is tied to accounts, then now I know.
I called thier 1-800#(or whatever) and they sent me texts with a direct link. They will answer the phone.
Try that.
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I called thier 1-800#(or whatever) and they sent me texts with a direct link. They will answer the phone.
Try that.
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I buy gameloft games using paypal, i get no support, they dont reply to my emails, I'm not a memeber so i have no login to retreve downloaded games, but i already knew this before i bought any games, so i just manually back up the apk's i download
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Well i didn't know it was to tied to the account... and the My Downloads page thing using their website isn't working (saying I haven't downloaded any when in fact I have downloaded loads of games from them) that's why I posted in their crappy forum in the first place. I'm not dumb to not know that. In fact, everything in their website that is tied to an account doesn't work.
And I'm well informed of that no-warez rule here that's why I was asking FIRST in my previous post if it is tied to the account because if it's not there's no license thing to it. Since you said it is tied to accounts, then now I know.
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each device has a unique ID, and so does each gameloft .apk, at first run, each .apk is paired with the unique id of the device running it, after that, the game will only work on the device it was first run on
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each device has a unique ID, and so does each gameloft .apk, at first run, each .apk is paired with the unique id of the device running it, after that, the game will only work on the device it was first run on
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If I may ask a followup to this, do you know if say a while from now the Xplay 2 comes out and we want to upgrade, will Gameloft allow you to re-download an app you paid for to a new device? Or once its bought and paired you're done. I realize the physical file is paired, but I wonder if it broadcasts this data back to their server as well.
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If I may ask a followup to this, do you know if say a while from now the Xplay 2 comes out and we want to upgrade, will Gameloft allow you to re-download an app you paid for to a new device? Or once its bought and paired you're done. I realize the physical file is paired, but I wonder if it broadcasts this data back to their server as well.
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Yeah thats what it does, thats why you need an internet connection the first time you run a game, the game check the apk's id against the paired ones in the database, and if it comes back as already paired, the game quits or gives you the piracy warning
If I was to say get a new phone I would call and have them issue the games again.
But I believe it is tied to your account. I have flashed my phone and when I went back I had to enter my phone number and email address to download them again.
Hell the controls on the updated version (1.0.0) sucks ****..
controls on v1.0.0 for Xperia Play is so ****ed up, any solution?
I dont want it,hard to target,iprefer rainbow six
This game was out of my phone for months now, until yesterday I saw the game's changed icon on the Get Games app so I decided to try the game again hoping the controls were better. And hell yes, they're a lot better. The game is playable now, except from one bug I noticed that kept me from advancing through the very first mission.
Everytime the cinematic shows up where a burning barrel flies toward the player in slow-mo, the action button appears but doesn't seem to be functional. When I touch it, it disappears and my player just stands there and lets the flying barrel blast him into space dust.
Anyone care to try and report back if they experience the same? This is still a good FPS imo especially now that MC3's aim controls are kinda screwed up too with the new update.
If you're on v3.3.9 or earlier, I can agree that MC2 controls are okay.
If you're on any version newer than that (when they reset the version count to 1.0.0) then you're crazy
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This game was out of my phone for months now, until yesterday I saw the game's changed icon on the Get Games app so I decided to try the game again hoping the controls were better. And hell yes, they're a lot better. The game is playable now, except from one bug I noticed that kept me from advancing through the very first mission.
Everytime the cinematic shows up where a burning barrel flies toward the player in slow-mo, the action button appears but doesn't seem to be functional. When I touch it, it disappears and my player just stands there and lets the flying barrel blast him into space dust.
Anyone care to try and report back if they experience the same? This is still a good FPS imo especially now that MC3's aim controls are kinda screwed up too with the new update.
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Its been a while but IIRC one of the game pads buttons functions for the action button, it may have been X or Square or the right trigger, I forget. I remember having a problem with that part when i first played the game.
Hey bros I have a problem, I played mc2 via online and I am level 72 user but when I finish some game ir says that I am 58 level, and when I start a game it says I am 63 level, can somebody tell me what is wrong with my game.
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Hey bros I have a problem, I played mc2 via online and I am level 72 user but when I finish some game ir says that I am 58 level, and when I start a game it says I am 63 level, can somebody tell me what is wrong with my game.
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Gameloft is whats wrong with it. Their server that tracks your games doesn't realize 3/4 of the "badges" i earn, and screws that stuff up too.
The pixel seems like I good phone but I'm a little apprehensive about the new assistant app. I'm sure it will arrive on all phones eventually. I really don't want google to always know where I am, how long i was there, where I'm eating, if I'm moving around, what I'm buying, watching on tv, and searching for. Full access to my texts, emails, and friends. Best case scenario is they use/sell all my life's info to a marketing company. They should call the app Snowden assistant. My life is boring, but they don't need to know that. Google is becoming too invasive just to change your money into consumer products. And all Nouget kernels are locked, so without a leak, you become a Google Ad Slave without any self protection. I don't like it.
if you think that's bad it get worse i call tmobile yesterday wifes phone. acting up
they new everything that was on and how many pictures were on phone and the list goes on .they same said 1st issue you have developers on which is bad second that wifi was on and needed to be off for more diagnostic. so any way don't be too worried of google as tmobile also knows what's on your phone
This is why I personally feel root should be option on all devices. Are we to trust all the hands in our private cookie jars? I personally feel more secure with my control of my device than with large companies that are constant targets of hackers. I'm glad we have more control over what apps can access in android 6 and and 7, but still no real control what the carriers and their friends can access about our lives and what they do that info. It will be interesting to see if people end up caring enough about their privacy or maybe I'm just being too sensitive about it.
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if you think that's bad it get worse i call tmobile yesterday wifes phone. acting up
they new everything that was on and how many pictures were on phone and the list goes on .they same said 1st issue you have developers on which is bad second that wifi was on and needed to be off for more diagnostic. so any way don't be too worried of google as tmobile also knows what's on your phone
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This is why I disable the My T-Mobile app it is how they gather all this information. If you root the app will even try to request root permissions which is insane.
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This is why I disable the My T-Mobile app it is how they gather all this information. If you root the app will even try to request root permissions which is insane.
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Indeed. I have the unlocked S7 Edge .. no carrier or Samsung bloat installed. This Big Bro crap is just that .. crap. They also load up a diag process as part of the MyTmobile app. You don't opt out of their network testing and disable that process .. it will eat your network connection and system resources. It hit my Note 7 and made it unusable for 40 minutes. I noticed the data arrows going mad and figured this was the problem. It was. I disabled all the TMO software and this separate process and everything was good .. then recall. Not a good month all the way around.
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The pixel seems like I good phone but I'm a little apprehensive about the new assistant app. I'm sure it will arrive on all phones eventually. I really don't want google to always know where I am, how long i was there, where I'm eating, if I'm moving around, what I'm buying, watching on tv, and searching for. Full access to my texts, emails, and friends. Best case scenario is they use/sell all my life's info to a marketing company. They should call the app Snowden assistant. My life is boring, but they don't need to know that. Google is becoming too invasive just to change your money into consumer products. And all Nouget kernels are locked, so without a leak, you become a Google Ad Slave without any self protection. I don't like it.
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Don't worry, Google Assistant is exclusive to Pixel phones. Google probably doesn't need Assistant to know everything about you anyhow.
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This is why I disable the My T-Mobile app it is how they gather all this information. If you root the app will even try to request root permissions which is insane.
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Don't worry, Google Assistant is exclusive to Pixel phones. Google probably doesn't need Assistant to know everything about you anyhow.
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And once the Pixel folks have worked out the kinks by beta testing it .. it'll get pushed out to everyone.
Anyone who thinks the Pixel will sell enough to make it work Google doing it as an exclusive feature is just nuts. Also, the folks who created Siri just got bought by Samsung so most likely by summer '17 we'll all be saying "Hey, Viv!" and all that silliness.
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if you think that's bad it get worse i call tmobile yesterday wifes phone. acting up
they new everything that was on and how many pictures were on phone and the list goes on .they same said 1st issue you have developers on which is bad second that wifi was on and needed to be off for more diagnostic. so any way don't be too worried of google as tmobile also knows what's on your phone
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Well, when you first get the phone, at the beginning the t-mobile app ask if you give them permission to collect data to "easily diagnosed" issues on your phone ...you have the option of denial or acceptance on that....or you also can disable the t-mobile app on app manager
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Well, when you first get the phone, at the beginning the t-mobile app ask if you give them permission to collect data to "easily diagnosed" issues on your phone ...you have the option of denial or acceptance on that....or you also can disable the t-mobile app on app manager
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I kinda wondered what that does. You still have to opt out of maps, chrome, google app and Google account to fully unhook from google. There are many sub menu options in Google account especially.
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I kinda wondered what that does. You still have to opt out of maps, chrome, google app and Google account to fully unhook from google. There are many sub menu options in Google account especially.
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Well at least Google gives their customers the options to turn off all of that... you just need patience to go over and READ descriptions of every single option...Google puts everything there for ppl to choose...it's just ppl are too lazy lol
What's irritating me, and I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but ever since Google stated only the Pixel would have this feature, Google Now has been crippled on Samsung phones. Used to get news, all sorts of info, now when I go to Google Now, I only get the sports teams I follow and location based stuff. I think Google is pulling a stunt to push people to the Pixel. Not cool.
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