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I thought it was common sense, but my buddy with a G1 was like "I didn't know you could do that!?"
OK... so... Go to MarketPlace, Menu key--My Downloads.... if it says installed, you're all good. If it says Install and is a program you HAVE installed? Click it. Will overwrite the old version automatically.
That is one way.... but a new app on the market it makes it one step easier. Install aTrackDog... I used the way you described before this came out... it makes your life soo much easier.
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That is one way.... but a new app on the market it makes it one step easier. Install aTrackDog... I used the way you described before this came out... it makes your life soo much easier.
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Yeah, have heard it doesn't update that fast?
There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
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There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
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Oh wow.. thanks! That's even worse!
Some apps (Twitdroid is a good example) alerts you if there's a new update; and most apps have contact details for the developer, so maybe drop them an email and ask for some auto update code to be added into your favourite apps? Bummer though, you still have to go into the market to update them.
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There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
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Good point but then again... I personally want to know about others beta's, I think aTrackDog should do something thou... make it so all apps are defaulted to not update.
Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
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Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
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True, I suppose it is a matter of personal preference. Since I only have a half dozen apps installed on my G1, it's rather trivial to just check the download list. I balance that against having yet another app installed, not to mention having my app installation habits data-mined by aTrackdog.
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Good point but then again... I personally want to know about others beta's, I think aTrackDog should do something thou... make it so all apps are defaulted to not update.
Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
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I am not a developer but can see a potential for an exploit on this maybe? Sending out info isn't ever really a good idea. Even if it's set to only send out this and that data, I have seen exploits take advantage of less.
Both valid points, but then again look at the stuff I can't uninstall LOL that can send out just as much info. Everything is a risk, and honestly maybe application mining my G1 is a good thing, might lead to more big name developers wasting money to make quality apps for cheap/free. Never know might make MS want to make an office suite... or better yet... openoffice doing it.
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Both valid points, but then again look at the stuff I can't uninstall LOL that can send out just as much info. Everything is a risk, and honestly maybe application mining my G1 is a good thing, might lead to more big name developers wasting money to make quality apps for cheap/free. Never know might make MS want to make an office suite... or better yet... openoffice doing it.
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Yeah I wouldn't really hold my breath on OpenOffice for Android. Aside from the fact that most desktop apps have to be completely retooled to function in a mobile context, i'm sure Sun isn't too happy about Google brewing up Dalvik based on Java (which quite directly competes with J2ME). Dataviz is already working on an Android version of DocsToGo.
Of course if Google were to put more of their engineers on Android/mobile development, maybe we could see Google Docs for Android. Let's hope those Christmas Bonus Dreams lead to more apps Googlers make in their 20%.
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Yeah I wouldn't really hold my breath on OpenOffice for Android. Aside from the fact that most desktop apps have to be completely retooled to function in a mobile context, i'm sure Sun isn't too happy about Google brewing up Dalvik based on Java (which quite directly competes with J2ME). Dataviz is already working on an Android version of DocsToGo.
Of course if Google were to put more of their engineers on Android/mobile development, maybe we could see Google Docs for Android. Let's hope those Christmas Bonus Dreams lead to more apps Googlers make in their 20%.
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Isn't openoffice made publically? (not the source but the actual development is by the general public) wouldn't that mean if enough got an android they could do it? LOL
And I bust up over the G1 for all Google employees. But then again that article made it sound like every employee normally gets 20,000 for Christmas *cough*bull*cough* I bet only the high ups got anywhere close to that and probably the lowers got 100 dollars and maybe some free software or something.
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Isn't openoffice made publically? (not the source but the actual development is by the general public) wouldn't that mean if enough got an android they could do it? LOL
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Actually it is an open source project. However project leaders have very broad discretion to guide the direction a project takes. A good example would be the Android Open Source Project.
And I bust up over the G1 for all Google employees. But then again that article made it sound like every employee normally gets 20,000 for Christmas *cough*bull*cough* I bet only the high ups got anywhere close to that and probably the lowers got 100 dollars and maybe some free software or something.
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Yeah the average Googler received a $1000 holiday bonus last year.
wow 1000 dollar bonus... that is really good... but I understand why that is cut in half this year especially with the way the economy is.
Well first, the new Market isn't on our Nexus S yet (officially), that's fine, it's just a UI update pretty much.
Now more seriously and more annoying, Google pushed out 2.3.1, that's great! BUT:
Whether you're rooted or not, there are missing apps on the Market because of 2.3.1
Some of the apps I use that I can no longer download from the Market are:
aFile, Fandango Movies, NYTimes for Android, PayPal, FiOS Mobile Remote
These are big apps, no reason they shouldn't be available.
I guess the issue is Google needs to input/enter/update their Market to "support" the new build of 2.3.1. ARE YOU F'ING SERIOUS? You just pushed the damn thing and don't remember to update your Market with the new build??
GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER GOOGLE! This is frustrating!
EDIT: ALL Copy Protected Apps do NOT show up in the Market on Android 2.3.1
Please go here and STAR the issue: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13514
EDIT: 1/5/2011-IT'S FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+1 i can confirm this
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Well first, the new Market isn't on our Nexus S yet (officially), that's fine, it's just a UI update pretty much.
Now more seriously and more annoying, Google pushed out 2.3.1, that's great! BUT:
Whether you're rooted or not, there are missing apps on the Market because of 2.3.1
Some of the apps I use that I can no longer download from the Market are:
aFile, Fandango Movies, NYTimes for Android, PayPal, FiOS Mobile Remote
These are big apps, no reason they shouldn't be available.
I guess the issue is Google needs to input/enter/update their Market to "support" the new build of 2.3.1. ARE YOU F'ING SERIOUS? You just pushed the damn thing and don't remember to update your Market with the new build??
GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER GOOGLE! This is frustrating!
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Have you tried editing your build.prop file to change the version fingerprint? I know this has been used in the past to restore "missing" apps to the market.
CALM DOWN
relax there, hot shot. you bought a pure android phone, early. You realize what that means is there will be glitches, patches, and rebuilds along the way. its happened before. the nexus one started off crappy with great potential and look at it now..its still top dog. so please be a professional with your purchase and know how to be a geek about it.
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Have you tried editing your build.prop file to change the version fingerprint? I know this has been used in the past to restore "missing" apps to the market.
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I think the point is it shouldnt need to be done that way
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relax there, hot shot. you bought a pure android phone, early. You realize what that means is there will be glitches, patches, and rebuilds along the way. its happened before. the nexus one started off crappy with great potential and look at it now..its still top dog. so please be a professional with your purchase and know how to be a geek about it.
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LOL I know, I've had a Nexus One. But still, really, this is a really stupid "mistake" by them, how can you overlook something like this? Shouldn't they have some sort of checklist they need to do before pushing an update to hundreds/thousands of phones?
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Oh, I agree. Just trying to be helpful while we wait for Google to fix it lol. I've had to download the specific APKs and install them via AndExplorer for my missing apps.
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relax there, hot shot. you bought a pure android phone, early. You realize what that means is there will be glitches, patches, and rebuilds along the way. its happened before. the nexus one started off crappy with great potential and look at it now..its still top dog. so please be a professional with your purchase and know how to be a geek about it.
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Well, I disagree with your assessment in terms of the Market.
It's ridiculous that Google's flagship device with it's flagship version of the OS, sold to the masses through a big-box store like Best Buy should have something as basic as the build number not being recognized and excluding you from apps that should be available to you.
Such a small thing to take care of on their server end, yet overlooked. Just another one of those little things that a certain other mobile OS operator doesn't overlook that makes the rabid fanbois of it froth at the mouth and pant how much better their OS is.
Fed Up but glad others are in the same boat
I am glad that i came across your posts. I was about to throw the stupid phone out the window. I had to exchange my Nexus S today at Best Buy (still running 2.3). When i came out with my new phone, it prompted me to update to 2.3.1. I did the update and after I was done setting up my phone, I noticed that there are apps THAT I PAID FOR that are missing from the Market.
I am sorry, but whether this is a new phone, developer phone, I paid top dollar and I would expect that something as simple as ensuring that the apps that i PAID for our available seems pretty straightforward.
Until they straighten their stuff out, I am pulling my SIM and going back to MT4G.
Everyone calm down, they will show up in the coming days. The day that the Nexus S came out I couldn't find some apps, like NYT. But it showed up the next day or two.
Not too sure why people are complaining here. You bought a google development phone so you get updates long before other phones get them. Along with that, come issue, bugs, ...time waiting for 'others' to catch up.
By 'others' I mean, the people, companies, ect who release their apps. Surely google doesn't micromanage what apps work for what versions of Android. Or which ones show up on the market depending on your Android build, phone, or cell phone provider. My guess would be that is all in the app developers hands.
Either wait, or go about getting them on your phone another way. After all, you bought a google development phone, a pre-requisite for owning one should be wanting to tinker around with it. As said, you could probably get them to show up if you edit your prop-build. This happens at every new android build release....
confirmed...on 2.3.1 i lose slingplayer, thats a deal breaker for me. back to 2.3 for now
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confirmed...on 2.3.1 i lose slingplayer, thats a deal breaker for me. back to 2.3 for now
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You didn't lose it, just get the .apk and install it manually.
Titanium Backup is really handy to have. You'll always have backups to all your apps for occasions like this.
I come here to get info on what's going on in the nexus world and all I find is stupid people *****ing about things they know nothing about.
Just because you paid some money does not mean you can act like a ignorant fool and *****.
Sent from my Nexus S
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I come here to get info on what's going on in the nexus world and all I find is stupid people *****ing about things they know nothing about.
Just because you paid some money does not mean you can act like a ignorant fool and *****.
Sent from my Nexus S
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you sir, need to sit in the corner on time out, just chill, your now the one over reacting
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You didn't lose it, just get the .apk and install it manually.
Titanium Backup is really handy to have. You'll always have backups to all your apps for occasions like this.
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won't install manually... i refuse to use titanium (but that would probably work)
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I come here to get info on what's going on in the nexus world and all I find is stupid people *****ing about things they know nothing about.
Just because you paid some money does not mean you can act like a ignorant fool and *****.
Sent from my Nexus S
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this thread is actually worthwhile. I agree that NS forum is flooded with useless questions that are asked over and over...but not here. go post your rant somewhere else
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I come here to get info on what's going on in the nexus world and all I find is stupid people *****ing about things they know nothing about.
Just because you paid some money does not mean you can act like a ignorant fool and *****.
Sent from my Nexus S
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Well you know what? Go ahead and update to 2.3.1 and you will have issues downloading apps from the Market, that was previously there. That's the point of this thread, and it's a valid one.
Yes you can go ahead and edit your build.prop, revert your rom, etc..etc.. but the FACT of the matter is, 2.3.1 DOES have Market issues.
I do have a right to ***** about this issue, because it's a simple issue for Google to fix and too stupid for them to overlook.
And for the other people saying "you bought a developer phone, you should expect issues and problems".. actually no, I don't expect that. It's sold to the general public through Best Buy at a retail location. I expect it to work properly. If suddenly tomorrow there's a 2.3.1 update and you can't make any phone calls, I can bet you all will be *****ing about it. And this Market issue is exactly the same.
I changed the fingerprint in the build.prop to show as it is the older 2.3.
I don't understand why Google is releasing an update before it allows it fully in the Market....
Attached is the build.prop i used.
It is from GRH78 only have the fingerprint of GRH55.
The ONLY line i changed in this build.prop is:
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ro.build.fingerprint=google/soju/crespo:2.3/GRH55/79397:user/release-keys
The GRH78 fingerprint is:
Code:
ro.build.fingerprint=google/soju/crespo:2.3.1/GRH78/85442:user/release-keys
You cash push the attached build.prop into /system (make sure you keep the correct permissions), reboot the device and the market should be fine.
Once Google update the market you can change it back.
Also if you change your build.prop down to 2.3 you'll get notifications on a 2.3.1 firmware update <facepalm>
Just change the fingerprint in your build.prop, download your apps, and change it back. Either that or wait for the app developers to update their apps, there's nothing wrong with the market.
Cnet just put up a review of the Motorola Atrix, one of the most anticipated smart-phones. AT&T has blocked the ability to download 3rd party apps . "You can't install third-party apps" and goes on to say "No change of heart on third-party applications, as that feature is disabled on the Atrix."
Google's(andy rubin) response is to say let me market decide. I truly agree with this statement but when the carriers are in power (two year contracts) it doesn't let the market work. General consumers dont know know the difference between android phones. Consumer assume since they are getting an android phone, all android phones are the same. This blocking of 3rd party apps creates a bad user experience and users will blame android and not the carriers.
( http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/motorola-atrix-4g-at/4505-6452_7-34468396.html?tag=rvwBody )
Moved to Atrix General
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when the carriers are in power (two year contracts) it doesn't let the market work.
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ITA.
Looking on the slighter brighter side, CNET also said this (emphasis added):
Of course, you've also got your obligatory AT&T services--AT&T Navigator, AT&T FamilyMap, and AT&T U-Verse Live TV--on there, but for once, you can actually uninstall any of these apps if you wish.
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It's not enough, but it's a start.
Side loading apps is such a trivial issue on any device, including devices on AT&T. Root not even required. So for the tiny percentage that want to do this (like rooters) the option is there.
No Third party software? No "FREE" bootloader? No reasonable laptop dock price? It really destroyed the purpose of open-sourced software.....I guess AT&T kills the fun of having an Android phone.....I went from "must have one" to "might have one"...sigh.....
My last 3 phones were not purchased from AT&T because of similar issues. AT&T modifies the phone to disable installation of anything not coming from their store.
I've been considering switching to a different provider because I find it very expensive to buy unlocked phones just to get them in their enabled state. I know I would lose the flexibility of using the phone around the world, but I don't travel that much.
Is Verizon doing this same thing on their phones? If not I may consider switching to them. How about Sprint?
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My last 3 phones were not purchased from AT&T because of similar issues. AT&T modifies the phone to disable installation of anything not coming from their store.
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AT&T restricts third-party apps, which means you can download only from the Android Market - which is not AT&T's store, btw.
Is Verizon doing this same thing on their phones? If not I may consider switching to them. How about Sprint?
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As far as I know, AT&T is the only one of the 4 major carriers that blocks 3rd-party apps. As previously mentioned, getting around that restriction is extremely simple and does not require rooting the phone. The Sideload Wonder Machine, for one, is very easy to use.
has no one in here heard of the side-load wondermachine come on seriously when theres a will theres a way thats my way around att crap O rama
shadowscreation said:
has no one in here heard of the side-load wondermachine come on seriously when theres a will theres a way thats my way around att crap O rama
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The point is we shouldn't have to find ways around it, and buying these devices only says that it's OK to at&t.
eallan said:
The point is we shouldn't have to find ways around it, and buying these devices only says that it's OK to at&t.
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i know what your saying.but considering this is one of atts top o the line phones minus the bs tethering plan for laptop dock(totally ruined that for me by the way). im just hoping that the bootloader isnt crapped up im gonna wait a little bit on buying this till i know theres a way to custom rom the crap out of this phone so ya thats what im waiting on before i decide i want this phone or not if not owell there will be better ones later on this year im sure so guess we will see how this all works out
note to everyone i like grammatical errors and run-on sentences thats what makes life fun
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AT&T has blocked the ability to download 3rd party apps
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Relax... thats what xda is for.
peachpuff said:
Relax... thats what xda is for.
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No kidding. Do you really need to get your panties in a wad about sideloading? That's like complaining that it doesn't come rooted from the factory.
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Relax... thats what xda is for.
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Yes i get that but im talking about common users. Common users will not use XDA or root there phone. Im also not talking just about just this phone. When carriers do stuff like this, it effects how people view android and its ease of use.
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Yes i get that but im talking about common users. Common users will not use XDA or root there phone. Im also not talking just about just this phone. When carriers do stuff like this, it effects how people view android and its ease of use.
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Common users aren't going to be side loading to begin with. If its not in the market they aren't going to care. If they care they can google it and find XDA or the plethora of other sites that detail the simple few step process.
i agree it shouldn't be an issue, it is and its an easy fix so I don't worry about it. Efuse is a bigger issue to development that this. If it does have efuse I won't buy it out of principal and I'll get an inspire.
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Common users aren't going to be side loading to begin with. If its not in the market they aren't going to care. If they care they can google it and find XDA or the plethora of other sites that detail the simple few step process.
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Agreed. Anyone who wants to sideload can figure it out. Its probably the easiest hack you could possibly do on your Android phone.
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I know I found out about the side-load wonder machine long before I found XDA. But it just wasn't enough for my Captivate lol. Always wanted more.
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I know I found out about the side-load wonder machine long before I found XDA. But it just wasn't enough for my Captivate lol. Always wanted more.
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And the Cappy always needs more! Here's to hoping the Atrix doesn't.
At least in the performance realm, it doesn't seem too need much help from hacks. Although I'm looking forward to seeing what can be accomplished...
This phone is a powerful machine to begin with. I will be happy once I can root just to delete any bloatware that I can't delete out the box. Sideloading will be nice too..
I just don't like the Motorola interface, launcher pro will be my first install..
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I have decided pass on the Atrix due to pricing tech concerns. I am looking forward to the samsung i9100.
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Good evening All,
So, I recently bought a Nook Simple Touch from a 3rd party retailer so that I could purchase it from Canada. The main selling point for me was that it was rootable.
Well, having used it for a few weeks, I must say, I'm disappointed. It's ridiculous that I can't buy *any* legit books from Barnes and Nobles, *including* free books which are available elsewhere; I understand restrictions on certain items, but Classic, free books, really?
Second, the perks of having a rooted device are limited at the moment. I find the process still somewhat buggy, and many of the Marketplace apps I've downloaded, most notably the Kindle app, either don't work or crash on launch.
Third, if one has problems with the device, the exchange process is significantly more inconvenient than for a US citizen. In my case, I need to go through the 3rd party re-saler and must pay a 20% restocking fee. I'm already having battery issues, and trying to deal with B&N directly has not been pleasant, either--I've called for days now, get told that they're experiencing an unusual number of calls, and instead of being put onto hold, I get hung up on.
For these reasons--that I can't even download legit books, that the rooting process gives me little benefit, and that tech support seems nearly impossible, I recommend against this item. I am going to return it and get either a Kindle or Kobo.
Has anyone else had any experiences with buying an Nook outside of the US? I'd be curious to hear your opinions.
Cheers,
-Feliks
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[...] ridiculous that I can't buy *any* legit books from Barnes and Nobles, *including* free books which are available elsewhere; I understand restrictions on certain items, but Classic, free books, really?
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Why do you feel restricted to B&N to get classics and free books? One of the reasons to root is escape the B&N walled garden. You can freely download content off of other web sites (e.g. Project Gutenberg), either directly to your device, possibly in a 3rd party reader app, or to a computer for sideloading. Fire up Calibre on your desktop and set up subscriptions to push daily news to your NOOK. Buy from (and support) DRM-free publishers that do care about those north of the border. You are FREE, man!
Second, the perks of having a rooted device are limited at the moment. I find the process still somewhat buggy, and many of the Marketplace apps I've downloaded, most notably the Kindle app, either don't work or crash on launch.
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The Kindle app is working well for me. Of course, you have to have reasonable expectations for this device. It is running Android 2.1 Eclair, so a lot of apps simply won't run. Others won't display properly, or are dependent on multitouch. Obviously, it's not a gaming platform, but for text-centric apps, you may be able to find suitable replacements. What specific types of apps are you after?
Third, if one has problems with the device, the exchange process is significantly more inconvenient than for a US citizen. In my case, I need to go through the 3rd party re-saler and must pay a 20% restocking fee.
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Well, you knew that going in, right? That's always the risk of doing business like that.
I'm already having battery issues, and trying to deal with B&N directly has not been pleasant, either--I've called for days now, get told that they're experiencing an unusual number of calls, and instead of being put onto hold, I get hung up on.
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I certainly hope you've asked for help here at XDA. B&N support is notorious for being staffed by poorly trained spider monkeys (no slight to primates intended). Again, you are FREE of B&N.
If you'd care to elaborate, many here might be able to help you pinpoint your battery issues. I've spent a lot of time tuning battery usage and will gladly help if I can. You should expect to see reduced battery life if you use any of the following:
Live wallpapers
Active widgets
Apps that poll in the background
Battery will still be good compared to many devices, but not as good as a stock NST. With a bit of adjustment, I see about 2% drop over a 4-6 hour period when idle with wifi off, 2% per hour when idle with wifi on, and 4-8% when in actively using networked apps.
Reading on the B&N forums, I'm understanding that you can physically buy from Canada, but you must have a credit card with a US address. Of course, having family on either side of the border helps here. We've got family in the TO area. I believe getting someone to buy you a gift card will work as well.
That said, if you just want a reader and another device supports you better in your locale, by all means, go for it!
Why do you feel restricted to B&N to get classics and free books? One of the reasons to root is escape the B&N walled garden. You can freely download content off of other web sites (e.g. Project Gutenberg), either directly to your device, possibly in a 3rd party reader app, or to a computer for sideloading. Fire up Calibre on your desktop and set up subscriptions to push daily news to your NOOK. Buy from (and support) DRM-free publishers that do care about those north of the border. You are FREE, man!
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Can't argue with that--I love Calibre. However, being away from my computer in an airport, I was willing to buy, and could not--and while Kindle would load, I could not buy, from B&N, I obviously could not buy, and the browser along with Opera would either crash or not load at all. In those cases, I would like the ability to buy, or buy/download from somewhere else. I don't want to be with my laptop all the time.
The Kindle app is working well for me. Of course, you have to have reasonable expectations for this device. It is running Android 2.1 Eclair, so a lot of apps simply won't run. Others won't display properly, or are dependent on multitouch. Obviously, it's not a gaming platform, but for text-centric apps, you may be able to find suitable replacements. What specific types of apps are you after?
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I just reformatted and re-rooted--have to wait for Marketplace to start working and I'll try again. I hope it does work, that would make me think twice about returning.
Well, you knew that going in, right? That's always the risk of doing business like that.
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Can't argue with this one ;p
I certainly hope you've asked for help here at XDA. B&N support is notorious for being staffed by poorly trained spider monkeys (no slight to primates intended). Again, you are FREE of B&N.
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Just recently posted about my issue - the battery works well, as far as I can tell, but the battery status does not refresh. Unfortunately, I rooted before I backed up. Having realized this, I reset using the script found here (bypassing the 8 reboots), and then did a wipe and de-authorize, and then created "as vanilla as I can get" backup. However, while I remember that the battery status worked fine when I first got the device, I'm uncertain if it was screwed up right after rooting, or if I did something later on to make it so. All I know now is that, despite restoring, wiping, and restoring from image, my battery status remains incorrect.
Any suggestions?
Cheers!
-Feliks
Ooh, didn't realize you were the "battery gauge" guy. Are you sure they didn't ship you a refurb, or was it just a "rebuying" service? I'll have to start smuggling NOOKs up next time I drive to TO.
Some of the 3rd part reader apps will allow you to directly download free epubs from within the app. I believe Aldiko will. Sorry, but I don't have any handy to check for sure.
Or you could just go overboard like I did and load an SD card up with 500+ odd titles to browse through.
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Can't argue with that--I love Calibre. However, being away from my computer in an airport, I was willing to buy, and could not--and while Kindle would load, I could not buy, from B&N, I obviously could not buy, and the browser along with Opera would either crash or not load at all. In those cases, I would like the ability to buy, or buy/download from somewhere else. I don't want to be with my laptop all the time.
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There's two versions of Opera. There's Opera Mobile, which is the better of the two, but doesn't work for everyone. Then there's Opera Mini, which has the web pages compressed by Opera's servers, which makes it slow, but it will probably work of Mobile doesn't. If you're using Mini but it doesn't work, try Mobile. I don't know why, but the Nook seems to play favorites.
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So, I recently bought a Nook Simple Touch from a 3rd party retailer so that I could purchase it from Canada. The main selling point for me was that it was rootable.
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That's what did it for me as well. I actually bought mine instore in the US, but I brought it home to Canada to use.
Well, having used it for a few weeks, I must say, I'm disappointed. It's ridiculous that I can't buy *any* legit books from Barnes and Nobles, *including* free books which are available elsewhere; I understand restrictions on certain items, but Classic, free books, really?
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It seems like you need to manage your expectations. Did you do any research on here or other sites about the capabilities of the NST outside of the US? I knew going in that buying books on the device would be difficult, so I planned ahead and made sure I had other options (Calibre, as others have mentioned). B&N doesn't do business in my country, and I have to live with their decision, as stupid as they are for making it and leaving our funny-looking money on the table.
Second, the perks of having a rooted device are limited at the moment. I find the process still somewhat buggy, and many of the Marketplace apps I've downloaded, most notably the Kindle app, either don't work or crash on launch.
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Again, with the managing of expectations. It's an e-reader, not a tablet. It has significant hardware differences from either a phone or a tablet, and those differences will affect what apps will run and how useful they will be. It also does not have all the software components that Android apps expect, which also affects how apps will run. Having said all of this, there's still a ton of useful, working apps for NST. My intent, when I purchased the NST, was to have an e-reader with an E-ink screen, that could also check email. As it is, NST fulfills that requirement perfectly, beyond my wildest dreams. In addition to that functionality, I discovered several other things it's good at (the best dang SSH client I ever used, a better SimpleNote client than the original, a surprisingly good InstaPaper client, etc.). For me, the perks of rooting have been absolutely massive.
Third, if one has problems with the device, the exchange process is significantly more inconvenient than for a US citizen. In my case, I need to go through the 3rd party re-saler and must pay a 20% restocking fee. I'm already having battery issues, and trying to deal with B&N directly has not been pleasant, either--I've called for days now, get told that they're experiencing an unusual number of calls, and instead of being put onto hold, I get hung up on.
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This part confuses me. B&N have explicitly chosen not to do business here. What makes you think they would make an exception just for you? Your expectations seem very high.
For these reasons--that I can't even download legit books, that the rooting process gives me little benefit, and that tech support seems nearly impossible, I recommend against this item. I am going to return it and get either a Kindle or Kobo.
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These devices will likely be a better fit for you...they don't have apps at all, so all of them won't work, rather than just some, and you'll likely have an easier time getting service (although, being unable to root them, you'll likely not have any battery troubles, since battery drain increase after rooting NST is a well known concern).
Not to put too fine a point on it, but it seems that more pre-purchase research and planning (you didn't have time to put a few books on your Nook before you left for the airport?) and some more reasonable expectations would serve you better in the future.
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There's two versions of Opera. There's Opera Mobile, which is the better of the two, but doesn't work for everyone. Then there's Opera Mini, which has the web pages compressed by Opera's servers, which makes it slow, but it will probably work of Mobile doesn't. If you're using Mini but it doesn't work, try Mobile. I don't know why, but the Nook seems to play favorites.
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This also seems to have something to do with whatever was installed upon root. From what I have read on the forums, some rooting methods install Opera Mobile upon root so the user does not have to go install it manually. It then fails to work.
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[...] as stupid as they are for making it and leaving our funny-looking money on the table.
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Oh wait, that's MONEY?
Now all the drink machine vendors are hoping people will use Canadian quarters, what with the exchange rate.
When did they start adding ferrous material to your coins? I was surprised when some newer coins jumped up at my magnet.
[...] My intent, when I purchased the NST, was to have an e-reader with an E-ink screen, that could also check email. As it is, NST fulfills that requirement perfectly, beyond my wildest dreams.
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I'm after a mail client that can deal with MS Exchange. MailDroid is working pretty well, but I'm curious what else works well.
[...] you'll likely not have any battery troubles, since battery drain increase after rooting NST is a well known concern).
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I'm being careful with loading up software that drains battery, and I'm quite pleased with battery life on mine, even after rooting. With wifi off, I lose 2% every 4-6 hours on standby. With wifi on, it's 2% per hour. With wifi on and in use, 4-6% per hour.
I never expected to meet B&N's "2 months" hype target. At this rate, 2-4 weeks between charges is more likely, though it seems to be getting better the more I use it. I'm actually very pleased with my rooted NST's battery life, though I can't really say whether I'm seeing "good" or "bad" life. It certainly out-lasts every gizmo I've owned before now!
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I never expected to meet B&N's "2 months" hype target.!
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If you look closely, you'll notice an asterisk stating that you'll only reach that if you read for 30 minute a day, and my guess is that you also would have to turn it off between readings. xD
Cheers for the quick reply! As long as my battery gets sorted out, I'll keep it!
-F...
Just got off the phone with B&N--exchange or any sort of replacement is impossible in Canada. Anything goes wrong, have to go to the states to get it fixed. Too much of a liability for me--I'll take not being able to buy any legitimate books etc, but to not be able to get *any* service? No way.
Thanks for all the help, All,
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Ohh! The Saga continues!
The only supplier in Canada for the Nook will replace it for me, no trouble, no problems. I can happily continue rooting after all, and he'll take care of any warranty and repairs!
Ok, next project then: mods, admins -- can we start a documentation project, get a proper guide up here? I'd be happy to contribute.
Cheers,
-F
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[...] The only supplier in Canada for the Nook will replace it for me, no trouble, no problems. I can happily continue rooting after all, and he'll take care of any warranty and repairs!
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Ah, good news. Who's the supplier?
This guy:
http://www.shopereaders.com/
I happened to be in Vancouver for a wedding a few weeks ago when I found out about him. Went to his house, picked up a Nook. Super friendly and helpful, and again, as far as I know, only guy in Canada selling the Nook.
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Don`t understand what are most of the complains about. It is officially stated by Barnes&Noble that that the device is supported only in the US.
Have bought my Nook with my credit card, also have no problems with buying nook-books from BN. And I`m from Ukraine which is much closer to "third world" then Canada or elsewhere.
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[...] Have bought my Nook with my credit card, also have no problems with buying nook-books from BN.
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Is that a US credit card?
Visa Classic issued in Ukraine. Have it connected to PayPal account, maybe this is the reason.
feliksas.laukys said:
Good evening All,
Has anyone else had any experiences with buying an Nook outside of the US? I'd be curious to hear your opinions.
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I have been able to order both free and pay titles from the B&N store for my Nook Simple Touch by registering my Canadian-issued Mastercard. You just need to set the billing address to a valid US address. Their systems don't seem to check the actual billing address on file with the CC company. Or if they do, they just don't care ;-)
feliksas.laukys said:
Good evening All,
So, I recently bought a Nook Simple Touch from a 3rd party retailer so that I could purchase it from Canada. The main selling point for me was that it was rootable.
Well, having used it for a few weeks, I must say, I'm disappointed. It's ridiculous that I can't buy *any* legit books from Barnes and Nobles, *including* free books which are available elsewhere; I understand restrictions on certain items, but Classic, free books, really?
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Not true. The ONLY thing you can't do from canada is buy the nst from the b&n website. You can download all free content without any credit card, and you can buy priced books, even with a canadian card with a canadian billing address.
Second, the perks of having a rooted device are limited at the moment. I find the process still somewhat buggy, and many of the Marketplace apps I've downloaded, most notably the Kindle app, either don't work or crash on launch.
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Expecting applications demanding a COLOR LCD to work 100% on an eink device is inappropriate.
Third, if one has problems with the device, the exchange process is significantly more inconvenient than for a US citizen. In my case, I need to go through the 3rd party re-saler and must pay a 20% restocking fee. I'm already having battery issues, and trying to deal with B&N directly has not been pleasant, either--I've called for days now, get told that they're experiencing an unusual number of calls, and instead of being put onto hold, I get hung up on.
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You bought it under the table and expect normal warranty process? Further, your "battery issue" is due to root. You have processes running in the background preventing it from sleeping, and draining your battery. Go into market and set it to NEVER NOTIFY YOU OF UPDATES. That will take care of MOST of it.
For these reasons--that I can't even download legit books, that the rooting process gives me little benefit, and that tech support seems nearly impossible, I recommend against this item. I am going to return it and get either a Kindle or Kobo.
Has anyone else had any experiences with buying an Nook outside of the US? I'd be curious to hear your opinions.
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As a Canadian with a NST, 4 actually, I can't agree with ANYthing you've stated. You are 100% incorrect on all accounts.
dhkr234 said:
Not true. The ONLY thing you can't do from canada is buy the nst from the b&n website. You can download all free content without any credit card, and you can buy priced books, even with a canadian card with a canadian billing address.
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You need a card punched into the Nook to 'purchase' free books from B&N.
Hey guys and gals,
Tonight my a500 was stolen. I work in sales and use it to look things on the net for customers (like price comparisons, etc) and use it for the website and lots of other business-type things (as well as lots of personal pics etc).
But, unfortunately when my back was turned, someone swiped it...!!!! argh:angry:
I had the newest release of jellybean on it from the forums here on xda, but had no remote wipe app installed (never even crossed my mind to do it). Therefore, I'm wondering if the is any remote wipe abilities in jellybean or if there was an app by chance that i had installed that would have this feature hidden (like onavo or norton utilities... reading now).
If anyone can help that would be amazing! Changed all my passwords, etc. So, I should be fine there. thanks guys
k
kylereid said:
Hey guys and gals,
Tonight my a500 was stolen. I work in sales and use it to look things on the net for customers (like price comparisons, etc) and use it for the website and lots of other business-type things (as well as lots of personal pics etc).
But, unfortunately when my back was turned, someone swiped it...!!!! argh:angry:
I had the newest release of jellybean on it from the forums here on xda, but had no remote wipe app installed (never even crossed my mind to do it). Therefore, I'm wondering if the is any remote wipe abilities in jellybean or if there was an app by chance that i had installed that would have this feature hidden (like onavo or norton utilities... reading now).
If anyone can help that would be amazing! Changed all my passwords, etc. So, I should be fine there. thanks guys
k
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Sorry mate. Not a lot you can do about it at this time.
Just cherish the thought of what's going to happen when he decides jb is too buggy, and tries to install a different rom. :laugh:
I suppose a new user will be posting all kinds of questions here at xda in the near future!
Still sorry to hear it got pinched. I know the feeling.
MD
thanks man. thought i was buggered lol. I left a facebook update that i hope shows up on the notifications in the tablet and make the culprit feel guilty. maybe it'll show up in the morning at work... fingers crossed. made me look at getting a wipe app for the old phone now, went with seekdroid. seems legit. any other suggestions?
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thanks man. thought i was buggered lol. I left a facebook update that i hope shows up on the notifications in the tablet and make the culprit feel guilty. maybe it'll show up in the morning at work... fingers crossed. made me look at getting a wipe app for the old phone now, went with seekdroid. seems legit. any other suggestions?
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Well, I don't have a lot of faith in those types of apps. They usually only work if an idiot steals it. Over here, pinching phones and tabs is big business, and usually done by pro's. They're quick to dump the device to another agent, who runs a stock full rom on it, clones the IMEI number from a good device , then dumps it to one of the umpteen million fly by night resellers. They (moscow govt) talked about cracking down on multiple PH number/IMEI combinations, then quickly realized over half the devices in Russia would stop working! Including their own!
Best thing to do, never let it out of your sight. Get a new device, like I did my phone, and the pain goes away.
But then again, maybe your culprit is a true idiot, and will post fotos to your facebook account!!!!!
MD
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
Did you try that Plan B yet or is that just over advertised junk?
Moscow Desire said:
Well, I don't have a lot of faith in those types of apps. They usually only work if an idiot steals it. Over here, pinching phones and tabs is big business, and usually done by pro's. They're quick to dump the device to another agent, who runs a stock full rom on it, clones the IMEI number from a good device , then dumps it to one of the umpteen million fly by night resellers. They (moscow govt) talked about cracking down on multiple PH number/IMEI combinations, then quickly realized over half the devices in Russia would stop working! Including their own!
Best thing to do, never let it out of your sight. Get a new device, like I did my phone, and the pain goes away.
But then again, maybe your culprit is a true idiot, and will post fotos to your facebook account!!!!!
MD
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The last person to steal one of my phones was a true idiot. This happened at my school and good thing I'm done with school. I was in class and had my phone charging and I had it out because I trusted most everyone in the room and would known who would have taken it.
So he asked if it was my phone and about a minute later he leaves the room. I noticed it was gone and others around me saw him take it. (Not obvious at all)
So I had the Vipre Mobile Security beta installed so I immediately logged into the web interface to activate GPS tracking and set off the alarm. Except when I logged in the service hadn't communicated when the app/phone in over a month so it was useless.
Over the period of the next 24 hours he had used the phone to take photos, delete everything on my sdcard, spam my YouTube feed with countless videos, and make voice calls to their own friends and family. So I looked on my carrier's account management and found all these numbers. Between the school staff and police it was possible to track the calls back to his identity. I got my phone back the next day...without the case and screen protector, sucks that they kept that.
So the lesson is make sure you have good, working anti theft solutions with cascading failsafes.
The next app I installed after ditching Vipre was Avast. This was a good solution with some flaws. Avast was one of the first Play Store security apps to utilize root access. Because of root in addition to setting as a device administrator it was also installed as a system service and app. This made it persistent and harder to remove.
The issue with avast was since the app was in /system and not /data it would have to be completely reconfigured after flashing each nightly update. Sometimes I'd forget and then it wouldn't work. It claimed to support the CM backup script except it was designed for CM7 and CM9 uses a different type of backup.
The other issue with avast was there was no web interface. You could only send commands through SMS.
Since I got my Nexus I bought Cerberus anti theft its perfect. It has system app support. Instead of a user setup it apparently registers the device ID or SIM or something and loads the user account from the cloud server. So all I do is add the apk to the CM backup list and it auto configures when installed. I can use SMS control or the website. I can monitor and control pretty much the entire phone and it takes a front camera photo on invalid pass code.
I check weekly to ensure its still running and it hasn't failed once.
As a failsafe I also have the first screen splash modded to my contact info in case of loss. Its encrypted so if anything maybe only a boot loader update could remove it.
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WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
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I think that only works if you accept all the tracking disclaimers to enable location history and not many people have history turned on.
I guess the lesson is you can't let your guard down for even a second. One time I let a friend sync their iPod touch on my computer since they didn't have a PC and they ended up snatching my classic monochrome iPod. I'm still upset to this day since they didn't take my old iPod touch instead. That just proves the first gen iPod touch is so bad people won't even steal it.
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I think that only works if you accept all the tracking disclaimers to enable location history and not many people have history turned on.
I guess the lesson is you can't let your guard down for even a second. One time I let a friend sync their iPod touch on my computer since they didn't have a PC and they ended up snatching my classic monochrome iPod. I'm still upset to this day since they didn't take my old iPod touch instead. That just proves the first gen iPod touch is so bad people won't even steal it.
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oh yea def' just thought for pot-luck ,
it is a pitty when you let someone come into your house as a friendly gesture only to find them stealing from you,... ive had my fair share and also a fair share of miss-understandings thereafter because of a newly aquired paranoia..... but i think its 100% justified.
If you download the lookout app and install it, if you ever lose your tablet, on the lookout website you can see where it is, (if GPS was enabled when lost) you can also do a remote wipe, and a remote siren, make it put off an alarm remotely.
Its a good app to have just in case, but doesn't help if the app was not installed before being lost or stolen.
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lifeofcoding said:
If you download the lookout app and install it, if you ever lose your tablet, on the lookout website you can see where it is, (if GPS was enabled when lost) you can also do a remote wipe, and a remote siren, make it put off an alarm remotely.
Its a good app to have just in case, but doesn't help if the app was not installed before being lost or stolen.
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yeah sound like the prey app too , i can also send a popup message to the tab screen, be near the location displayed on the map and then activate a "S-SCARING" siren lol
also one good thing is prey uses the location services through wifi as well as gps, tells you the address of the current and last wifi hotspots logged into
so if it says currently "wii hotspot mcdonalds fast food , thief street. lol go to the mcdonalds and set off the alarms,...clearly see your tablet...and a jackass who need a beating. :highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive:
chismay said:
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
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hey man, great idea! no luck...
and thanks guys for al of the advice! still no luck with the tab i think the worst part of it is was that i was really getting to love it. like the development here, especially with jb!, is fantastic. and i was a kickstarter supporter for chameleon and now seeing the new updates really puts salt on the wound. lol. in the next month i'll need another tablet, so im debating on finding another 2nd hand one for the price of a nexus 7, or just getting the 7. only thing is though, is the size....
thanks again.
I'm assuming you've looked into "Plan B" on the Android market, right? It automatically installs from the market on your tablet, and broadcasts location immediately on install. Not sure how accurate or helpful it is, but if you haven't tried it yet... you probably should.
The other option is to put out some Wanted To Buy ads...
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I'm assuming you've looked into "Plan B" on the Android market, right? It automatically installs from the market on your tablet, and broadcasts location immediately on install. Not sure how accurate or helpful it is, but if you haven't tried it yet... you probably should.
The other option is to put out some Wanted To Buy ads...
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i already changed the passwords, i wasn't aware of Plan B. great idea though! i tried it anyways lol.
and yeah ive been scouring kijiji and craigslist like a fiend