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Worth getting an HD2 for Android?

I've been looking for a new device for a while (my magic is pretty outdated), I was pretty set on a Nexus until I walked in to a Vodafone store to kill some time and played with an HD2. I really much prefer the form factor and having a massive screen.
Is there anything stopping any of you from using Android as your daily driver?
Looking at the release notes of most builds it seems that everything's working, correct? Are there any problems with playing media? It's not an issue if I have to boot in to WinMo for watching a movie or something, but I'd rather not do for music and youtube.

the battery drain with hd2 under android is pretty high.
with some builds the power doesnt even last a day..
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The clock in froyostone doesn't work as much. I tried to use the alarm but it never works.

Honestly... I love my HD2, but my answer will be "NO".
If the only thing you want is Android, get a native Android phone.
Wait for this: http://www.htc.com/us/products/evo-sprint
Now if you want the best of both worlds - WinMO AND Android - then the HD2 is the best choice, by very far, no other phone comes close.
This said, I'm using Android for daily use on my HD2 with this build:
Bangster 1.3 based on CyanogenMod 6.0.1
I just changed the settings back to 240 dpi, but it's the best I've tried so far, and everything works without a single crash for now. What's so great in this CyanogenMod based build is notably the build in graphic equalizer for all audio, something normal Android doesn't have. And fun thing, the equalizer/compressor/spacializer works better than the WinMO one.

Just have a little patience.the big event is tomorrow.HTC is presenting its upcoming handsets and HTC desire HD is one of them supposedly.
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For me man it's worth it!
I use now android as my primary OS; i have small screen freezes (from 10 to 20sec) maybe once or twice a day but i can live with that! (winmo used to do worth )
Besides it has higher benchmark results than even Nexus one!
Ok it may not be as reliable as an native android phone but believe me it's really fast and smooth!
The best built i have used (and still using at this moment) is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773790
It's a nexus build too!
By the way! Yes the ONLY and BIGGEST problem for me is the battery drain (it is heavy on every android phone); if you are willing to recharge a lot go for it! (HD2 andro or an andro phone)

I've been using android on my HD2 for about 2 weeks now. Because i sit at a desk all day it's easy for me to keep the phone charged, but I can tell that battery drain would be an issue if I didnt have this luxury. The phone itself is a piece of art, and for me it's totally worth it to run android. The only issues i experience are the occasional screen freeze (the touchscreen stops responding, but buttons work. After about 10 seconds it responds again. Happens maybe 1-2x per day, livable) and I've had to reboot it about every other day to fix bluetooth hiccups and such. Im not a fan of having to reboot phones that much even though it's easy, but hey at least I get android right? Sometimes I just reboot it for no reason just to start the day off fresh.
Theres no other phone like this available other than a jailbroken EVO 4G, and even then you are carrier limited. I love getting 3.5G on my HD2, since I have t-mobile and therefore the phone is compatible with their network. I probably wouldnt want it so much if I could'nt access the cellular broadband network.

hey OP, i would tell you something! why would you buy a nearly one year old phone???? on top of that u know that it would not be supported for the new win 7 and android on it , well... it works but not how it should. i mean with its freezes and battery drain.
The best thing to do if you want an android phone is get an android phone!!!!!
you are tempted for a large screen, then wait for the htc desire hd (same as the evo). It is expected in the coming weeks ( before the end of the yr for sure).

getting a hd2 FOR android??
nope, wait for desire hd.

Life Engineer said:
For me man it's worth it!
I use now android as my primary OS; i have small screen freezes (from 10 to 20sec) maybe once or twice a day but i can live with that! (winmo used to do worth )
Besides it has higher benchmark results than even Nexus one!
Ok it may not be as reliable as an native android phone but believe me it's really fast and smooth!
The best built i have used (and still using at this moment) is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773790
It's a nexus build too!
By the way! Yes the ONLY and BIGGEST problem for me is the battery drain (it is heavy on every android phone); if you are willing to recharge a lot go for it! (HD2 andro or an andro phone)
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I'm thinking giving Android a try... have you tried NRGZ28's Energy Android ROM over the New Nexus One Android 2.2 Build FRG3 you mentioned above?

If you like android, buy a native android phone. If you like windows and want the possibility to sometimes try out android, but the HD2. The android on HD2 is never going the be as smooth as a native phone. Period!

superjjskate said:
The clock in froyostone doesn't work as much. I tried to use the alarm but it never works.
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For the alarm (froyostone), did you have the "media" folder with all the ringtones and alarmtones in your sd card root?

kcaj32 said:
If you like android, buy a native android phone. If you like windows and want the possibility to sometimes try out android, but the HD2. The android on HD2 is never going the be as smooth as a native phone. Period!
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I agree. Buy a native android phone. There are plenty out there.

In the US, if you are on Tmous, my humble belief is that HD2 is the best Android phone. Galaxy S is disappointing, and My touches, not so much. This could change, but right now I've been running Android exclusively. However, spend some time reading your particular android thread (several pages) so you get to understand the glitches and the workarounds. I've been running my setup now continuously for about 1 month, and will continue to update Android as it gets refreshed. The developers are fantastic in that thread, and the hardware is still some of the highest spec'd stuff out there.

Another thing is the price. I bet the DesireHD will be £400+. HD2 is around £200,might get the hd2 just because its so much cheaper

dbh369 said:
In the US, if you are on Tmous, my humble belief is that HD2 is the best Android phone. Galaxy S is disappointing, and My touches, not so much. This could change, but right now I've been running Android exclusively. However, spend some time reading your particular android thread (several pages) so you get to understand the glitches and the workarounds. I've been running my setup now continuously for about 1 month, and will continue to update Android as it gets refreshed. The developers are fantastic in that thread, and the hardware is still some of the highest spec'd stuff out there.
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HD2 is far from the "best" Android phone available on TmoUS.
I have a Nexus one and an HD2...and my wife has the Vibrant. They all have their ups and downs...but I think once you throw LauncherPro and root/lag fix the Vibrant it completely smokes the HD2 in both fluid performance and visual display.
I still tinker with my Nexus...my G1 and my MT3G are retired permanently to the closet and I use my HD2 as my daily device running FroyoStone v1 and have not touched Winmo since the first stable desire build that darkstone made in early/mid July...I was one of the ones who bought my HD2 on launch day KNOWING that Android would come sooner than later, but if I had it to do again...I would have probably waited for the Vibrant to have a solid Android device.
As far as battery life...I can get a consistent 18 hour day out of my phone with 25-30% battery left with moderate usage...My HD2 gets much better battery performance than both my Nexus and my wifes Vibrant which have AMOLED and SAMOLED screens.
Now to answer your question...should you buy an HD2 for the sole purpose of running android as apposed to buying an Android phone?...If you like to tinker with gadgets and don’t get frustrated when things may not go right the first time or two...then by all means, get the HD2 and enjoy. If you want something that is going to give solid performance out of the box without any hassles...then go with the Vibrant and enjoy. I dont think you will be disappointed either way.

Or wait for the HTC vision aka g1 blaze
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Just get a real android phone, less bugs and freezes!!!!!!!! Desire, or nexus...ect....

scbrother said:
Just get a real android phone, less bugs and freezes!!!!!!!! Desire, or nexus...ect....
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people....did you read the caption of this thread?....it says "worth getting hd2 for android?" and not "can everybody tell me to buy a desire?" or "worth waiting till something get's out"
be helpful if you have the answer to the OP's question,but if you don't,don't spam the board with useless comments....
@agentaaron.....i think you are completely right

AdrianK said:
I've been looking for a new device for a while (my magic is pretty outdated), I was pretty set on a Nexus until I walked in to a Vodafone store to kill some time and played with an HD2. I really much prefer the form factor and having a massive screen.
Is there anything stopping any of you from using Android as your daily driver?
Looking at the release notes of most builds it seems that everything's working, correct? Are there any problems with playing media? It's not an issue if I have to boot in to WinMo for watching a movie or something, but I'd rather not do for music and youtube.
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I have HD2 and Im running Android full time last week or so on this build. MCCM 1.5 build is based on FRG33 ROM (for nexus one) and I have outscored Nexus One 2.2 without overclocking CPU by at least 150-200 points on Quadrant. If overclocked I am hitting 1650-1700 easily where Nexus (non-clocked is) about 1250-1300 Quadrant scores.
I think it is worth of shot unless you simply want Android that updates itself instead of having Windows Mobile which you may not use.
FYI I prefer to have WinMo on the side as I have GarminXT - which I prefer over any navi over data on the Android OS.
I guess it is up to you and what really you want ... There is Galaxy with 4.0" screen with an Android OS which still works pretty good... Your choice...

[Q] Calling Devs: Why not more Desire HD / Evo builds base?

We ve all noticed that builds made from HD and EVO are of higher resolution than the ones from Desire / Nexus One.
Once you try them (evo/desireHD) you think that you ve got a higher resolution.
All are 480x800, which means the res its the same for the screen, but i think not for the build.
LCD Density is a workaround, but truely ? it sucks when the keyboard becomes tiny and everything else as well.
Is there any way to have CM6 based on DesireHD or EVO or even more builds from EVO instead of Desire as base?
I know that desire's is the most compatible but it sucks if you compare it with HD.
Even in WinMo6.5 graphics looks a bit better.
We have bought a 4.3" display phone because we like having big screens. Not because we are blind

There already a couple of dhd and evo builds, why is that not enough for you? I'm glad we have this variety here, not everyone likes sense.
And no CM is never going to have a sense release. It's not based on desire by the way, CM is its own base.
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Desire versus Desire HD builds

What are the benefit/downside for Desire versus Desire HD builds?
I read somewhere that Desire may boot up faster whereas Desire HD may look better on HD2? Any comments are welcome.
I have SD/RAM darkstone right now, which uses Desire base. What's a good comparison RAM build for Desire HD?

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What are the benefit/downside for Desire versus Desire HD builds?
I read somewhere that Desire may boot up faster whereas Desire HD may look better on HD2? Any comments are welcome.
I have SD/RAM darkstone right now, which uses Desire base. What's a good comparison RAM build for Desire HD?
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All you are going to get here is opinion. I would honestly suggest backing up your data, and trying both out. The only true way to make a decision is to try each one.
For my opinion:
I use Desire base, not HD. I believe it is more suited to our phones specification, it is less buggy, and does everything I need. Even 'stock' HD's have issues that HTC are trying to solve, so the devs here have no chance to fix some things, until HTC do. Also, I have a 512 HD2, so the space issue is a big player for me. If you have 512MB leo, you're probably better off with a desire build, if you're on TMoUS, sure, go ahead and try a build you like the look of.
HTH

Desire HD has some nice eye candy and some new HTC widgets..that's just it (also there HTC sense online services, but i don't use them)
Personally I use the desire HD/Z hybrid (CMYLXGO's 15Jan one) becoz I like the eye candy and it works fine for me without any hiccups. Initial DesireHD builds were laggy and buggy...but developer's have ironed out the bugs and phone feels as smooth as Desire build...you have to disable live wallpaper though...it has big performance penalty

Thanks. I may try it out since I have a tmo version. I assume the rom you recommended is non ram? I haven't tried an android sense yet either so it may be somewhat worthwhile.
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[Q] i want to buy a hd2

HI ALL,
I had a htc magic and I have suffered with low configuration, so I thought to buy a HD2,the problem is that the hd2 was released since November 2009, so it is still powerful (with sense 3.0, SPB Shell 3D, regina 3D launcher, ...) ?
is the htc desire HD more powerful than the HD2 ? but the desire can not run the WM & Android
sorry for my english

i think you should choose HD2 if you will try WM & Android

hamzawi said:
HI ALL,
I had a htc magic and I have suffered with low configuration, so I thought to buy a HD2,the problem is that the hd2 was released since November 2009, so it is still powerful (with sense 3.0, SPB Shell 3D, regina 3D launcher, ...) ?
is the htc desire HD more powerful than the HD2 ? but the desire can not run the WM & Android
sorry for my english
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The DHD isn't really much more powerful than the HD2. It has very slightly better hardware, but it's negligible.
The HD2 has some issues with Sense 3, I have not found a ROM that doesn't lag at times, so I stick with CM7. If I had a Sensation though I'd probably put an AOSP launcher or CM7 when it was out...
Between a DHD and HD2 I'd get the HD2 any day of the week, the only real upgrade would be a Sensation or GS2.

i saw 2 videos,the first was a hd2 running htc sense 3.0 et the second was the HDH with the same os,the hd2 lag and the HDH doesn't.
and what about using live wallpapers and HD games ? will the hd2 lag or not ?

why does the hd2 lag with the sense 3.0 ? is it lack of RAM or what ???

hamzawi said:
i saw 2 videos,the first was a hd2 running htc sense 3.0 et the second was the HDH with the same os,the hd2 lag and the HDH doesn't.
and what about using live wallpapers and HD games ? will the hd2 lag or not ?
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hamzawi said:
why does the hd2 lag with the sense 3.0 ? is it lack of RAM or what ???
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that's true, but CM7 runs about the same on both.
I've noticed that native Android devices tend to run Sense 3 better, maybe a driver conversion thing, but the Evo I had with a sense 3 ROM ran it really well with no lag, and every sense 3 ROM I've used on the HD2 lags.
If you want lag free Sense 3 get a Sensation, I would bypass the DHD altogether.
The HD2 runs games and apps just fine on CM7 or AOSP based lighter ROMs.

HD2 speed in comparison to other androids

hi guys, i was just curious how fast the hd2 is compared to the likes of nexus s sgs and desire hd on cm7 and miui. any input would be greatly appreciated. thnx!
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got hd2 nand android, desire HD on custom rom and galaxy S2 on custom rom, samsung by far quicker, but hd is quicker then desire HD by far

OrionCarl said:
got hd2 nand android, desire HD on custom rom and galaxy S2 on custom rom, samsung by far quicker, but hd is quicker then desire HD by far
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wow, didnt expect HD to be faster than DHD! thanks for the input! btw, just out of interest, how do the screens compare between those three devices? im guessing SGS2 would have far better screen

Galaxy S2 is faster, but some programs may start faster on the HD2, and I know that's strange! and it happens randomly. probably related to background processes or something.
HD2 is also not always faster than DHD, it's just the huge amount of tweaking the HD2 ROMs get that they feel faster, but that performance is ROM-dependent.
If you get two tweaked ROMs, one on the HD2 and the other on DHD, and both from the same developer (Core team makes ROMs for both as far as I can remember), I bet the DHD will be faster.
Samsung screens IMHO are the best on the market, but having to deal with a none-sense droid phone with not much of custom ROMs is a pain.

Dr.Move said:
Galaxy S2 is faster, but some programs may start faster on the HD2, and I know that's strange! and it happens randomly. probably related to background processes or something.
HD2 is also not always faster than DHD, it's just the huge amount of tweaking the HD2 ROMs get that they feel faster, but that performance is ROM-dependent.
If you get two tweaked ROMs, one on the HD2 and the other on DHD, and both from the same developer (Core team makes ROMs for both as far as I can remember), I bet the DHD will be faster.
Samsung screens IMHO are the best on the market, but having to deal with a none-sense droid phone with not much of custom ROMs is a pain.
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thnx for the input just outta interest, how do the battery life compare? quite interested in WP7 battery span as well as MIUI on HD2. btw does the hd2 happen to have any graphical problems on MIUI or WP7?
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jay_993 said:
thnx for the input just outta interest, how do the battery life compare? quite interested in WP7 battery span as well as MIUI on HD2. btw does the hd2 happen to have any graphical problems on MIUI or WP7?
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I run NAND Android on my HD2 and have been running Android on mine for close to 9 months. Granted I run a non-sense ROM (Hyperdroid-CM7) as my daily driver. But I tested dozens of NAND Android ROMs for the HD2 and it run pretty much all ROMs very smoothly with the exception of the Sense 3.0 ROMs, It was laggy with those ROMs. The MIUI ROMs run pretty smooth on the HD2 but you do have an occasional lag here and there, but I stress the word occasional.
As for your original question the HD2 can hang with just about any native Android device on the market with the same or close to the same specs. Now keep in mind I am not talking about any of new devices sporting dual core processors with bigger RAM and mor memory.

T-Macgnolia said:
I run NAND Android on my HD2 and have been running Android on mine for close to 9 months. Granted I run a non-sense ROM (Hyperdroid-CM7) as my daily driver. But I tested dozens of NAND Android ROMs for the HD2 and it run pretty much all ROMs very smoothly with the exception of the Sense 3.0 ROMs, It was laggy with those ROMs. The MIUI ROMs run pretty smooth on the HD2 but you do have an occasional lag here and there, but I stress the word occasional.
As for your original question the HD2 can hang with just about any native Android device on the market with the same or close to the same specs. Now keep in mind I am not talking about any of new devices sporting dual core processors with bigger RAM and mor memory.
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hey thanks for the long answer. just out of interest, where does it specifically lag when using miui?
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jay_993 said:
hey thanks for the long answer. just out of interest, where does it specifically lag when using miui?
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The only real lag was when you would first open a app sometimes it would take somtimes the a second or two to open. It would also happen when you would be transitioning from one function to another, you know like when you opened the phone or camera. But it was always just a second or two delay/lag nothing that is intolerable. Or nothing most other native Android devices do from time to time. But the Sense 3.0 ROMs were borderline intolerable, at least for me.