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first full day with android

hey guys i wanted to give people an idea of how this holds up to a full days use as my main os. Im happy to report that the battery very much surprised me.
Started this morning with it fully charged (though it only went to 99% after a full night charge) at 8am. Did my normal thing, texting surfing the internet, no calls only checked a voicemail and here it is 9pm and i have 43% left.
The phone never got any hotter than with winmo when surfing the internet. I didnt have any hangups, black screens, reboots or any issues at all. So it looks like it can only get better with more development.
My setup:
tmous HD2
Freshly installed newest energy rom
2.10 radio
dan1j3l froyo 2.2
july 23rd zimage
4gb class 10 micro sd

I've been running nearly the exact same setup even down to using the Energy ROM (although I'm using the July 21st build, like it better). It's worked beautifully.

Wow me too, Energy 21st build, only thing I don't like is the new lockscreen.
Anyways, even though WinMo is so much more polished, can't stay away from Android...
Been running straight for 3 days ish, advanced task killer helps battery life alot... I think. =)

methree said:
Wow me too, Energy 21st build, only thing I don't like is the new lockscreen.
Anyways, even though WinMo is so much more polished, can't stay away from Android...
Been running straight for 3 days ish, advanced task killer helps battery life alot... I think. =)
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There's a fairly simple registry edit to get rid of that Android style lock screen. I didn't like it either.
WinMo to me is much more visually pleasing, but I run Android when I want APPS. They have tons of games for free that are hundreds of times better than anything you can get for WinMo. I love that we as HD2 owners have the option of running both operating systems. We get to run WinMo or Android on the HD2 but if you have say, an EVO 4G, you think you'll be able to run WinMo for some of IT'S benefits? Hell no. And no matter what some people here may say, WinMo DOES have some benefits that Android does not.

Do you have the echo problem during calls?

Only occasionally but to be honest, I RARELY use my HD2 for it's phone, heh. I'm more of a text person and when I'm at the office or home I just use a lan line, as I only have 750 minutes a month shared with my fiancee since neither of us like to talk on the phone much.

Besides some known issues and instabilities my main problems are as following:
- no bluetooth headset (not working in my car)
- slow internef browser (scrolling is choppy)
- lags and timeout problems
- echo for outgoing calls
- no volume control
Crash

jjones1983 said:
There's a fairly simple registry edit to get rid of that Android style lock screen. I didn't like it either.
WinMo to me is much more visually pleasing, but I run Android when I want APPS. They have tons of games for free that are hundreds of times better than anything you can get for WinMo. I love that we as HD2 owners have the option of running both operating systems. We get to run WinMo or Android on the HD2 but if you have say, an EVO 4G, you think you'll be able to run WinMo for some of IT'S benefits? Hell no. And no matter what some people here may say, WinMo DOES have some benefits that Android does not.
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Personally I disliked WinMo, even with Sense. It felt so "static".
As for benefits WinMo has over Android, why don't you label some?
Even with the unstable builds, I've been purely using android on my HD2 since the SOD was fixed, and plenty before that too while I was at home and could keep it plugged in and the screen on.

i am running dan's first froyo rom with the 7/23 zimagemand i am mostly in love with it. everything works perfectly besides the known issues (which really don't use much anyway). battery life is pretty good. i was at 100% at about 2 pm and by the time i got off work, after listening to music for about an hour and a half, some calls, lots of messages, and installing all of my favorite apps, got home with 15%. im gonna see how long i can go without have to reboot or use winmo.

Little update on battery life, 11:34 pm and still have 35% battery, not too bad really. I had read in an early review of the evo that it couldnt go a full day without needing a charge.

Can the HD2 be as fast as the Desire with Android?

Hey guys,
don't get me wrong, I am not talking about the current stage of android on HD2.
What the guys here established so far is mindblowing, but still we are nowhere near the performance of a pure android phone like the HTC Desire.
Question is, is it possible, with a fully optimized kernel and the OS running in NAND to achieve the performance of a HTC Desire?
Having in mind, that we are basically talking about the very same hardware platform regarding cpu/gpu/ram:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8250
ATI/AMD Z430 GPU
576 MB of RAM.
So what do you guys think?
boba

I went to a sprint store with my HD2 running Darkstone's v5 and it seems to be just as fast as, if not faster than the Evo, so there's no reason to presume it wouldn't be the same for the Desire.

I think we will have to wait until
- we can flash android directly as ROM and not only boot it and have it running on a sdcard
- the full memory available can be used. Currently the amount of ram used by android is around 250 Mbyte as far as I know. So nearly a half of ram is unused at the moment.
I am very sure that we will have great performance mostly like on desire when these points are realized.

If I use a live wallpaper on my HD2, there are some stutters when I open the "all apps"-tab. With a static wall it is in fact as smooth as the desire I used for comparison.
But I guess the overall performance is still on a way lower level than it should be out of a fully utilized NAND

Bare in mind, contrary to what you might think, Windows Mobile is in fact NOT running in any entirety once HaRET shuts it all down.
Phil

when will an android ROM be available that runs from flash
Hi,
I am interested in running android, I am a software developer so I have a clue but I have never put a non-htc rom in my hd2.
What is the timescale for an android rom being available that will replace the windows carp?
i was also wondering why so many people are creating their own versions rather than people grouping together to solve the various driver problems etc.
it seems a vastly over complex and risky process which is why i have not tried it, let alone deciding which flavour to choose.
i basically want to turn my hd2 into a decent phone, the hardware is good, the OS is carp but as yet there does not seem to be a decent way to run android other than buy an android phone.
not wanting a flame war here, i just don't get it.

I'm running Shub's Cyanogen and it already runs faster than my brother's Desire for the majority of tasks.
So yes.

@john00williams
how complex and risky is downloading a rar, extract it onto you SDcard, then running 1 exe file and waiting?! if after 10 mins you dont see android home screen, then you remove your battery to restart the phone and wait for new android build while using your old WM!!
you dont delete anything or remove anything.
how is that complex?? how??
also, fact that android is running from SD card only slows the bootup, while android itself is not visibly slower, cause WM is shut down completely and android is loaded into memory. for optimal usage you should have level 6 SD card anyway

kerman19 said:
Bare in mind, contrary to what you might think, Windows Mobile is in fact NOT running in any entirety once HaRET shuts it all down.
Phil
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THANKYOU, I dont know why so many people are finding that hard to understand
john00williams said:
Hi,
I am interested in running android, I am a software developer so I have a clue but I have never put a non-htc rom in my hd2.
What is the timescale for an android rom being available that will replace the windows carp?
i was also wondering why so many people are creating their own versions rather than people grouping together to solve the various driver problems etc.
it seems a vastly over complex and risky process which is why i have not tried it, let alone deciding which flavour to choose.
i basically want to turn my hd2 into a decent phone, the hardware is good, the OS is carp but as yet there does not seem to be a decent way to run android other than buy an android phone.
not wanting a flame war here, i just don't get it.
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Noone has any idea how long a full nand build will take, but I've read in a few places that a ETA is september...
All the devs are sharing their work as far as i can see.
there are 2 or 3 main builds now, the rest are older work...
Complex?
Get the right radio, rom, and put android on the root of your SD and run it.
Not complex at all, childs play infact.
the HD2 IS A GOOD phone. Just because you dont like winmo doesnt change that.
Maybe you should have researched a little before buying it...
If you wanted android, why the didn't you buy it?
to everyone else booting android on the hd2 is a bonus.
Please search before posting too, everything I just said has been said countless times

john00williams said:
it seems a vastly over complex and risky process which is why i have not tried it, let alone deciding which flavour to choose.
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Risky? It runs off the memory card, there is zero to little risk. Other than the phone heating up a little the phone being damaged is highly unlikely. And with SetCPU running mine doesn't heat up any more than it did under Windows Mobile when running intensive apps or services.
john00williams said:
i basically want to turn my hd2 into a decent phone, the hardware is good, the OS is carp but as yet there does not seem to be a decent way to run android other than buy an android phone.
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You can tell you haven't tried out one of the recent Android builds. If I was asked to assign a percentage of usability to the Cyanogen build I'm using off my class 6 Samsung card it would be 95% and the few things which are still ropey aren't essential, or certainly not for me. I can live without full bluetooth support for example.
My phone now has Android on it, that is how I think of it. I don't think of it as a WM phone that happens to be sort of running Android, a small but important point. I haven't used Windows Mobile now for over two weeks, and there is a reason for that.

@ the moment de devs are working to get full amount of ram. Cotulla said he see no problem to make nand work but there will be no nand until half of semptember for various reasons. I think they want first fix all other problems.

jan-willem3 said:
@ the moment de devs are working to get full amount of ram. Cotulla said he see no problem to make nand work but there will be no nand until half of semptember for various reasons. I think they want first fix all other problems.
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... and that makes sense definitly. It is much easier to fix issues by for example replacing a zimage file than flashing a new rom. Also we have the possibility to boot in wimo when problems occure. In my case I have four different android builds on my sdcard as I can not make a final decision which version to run yet. Some receive frequent updates, some don't.
So we should not see the lack of a nand rom too negative, its a great opportunity to fix most of the issues.

if only scrolling is smoother , all things willl be fine with me

Pagnell said:
My phone now has Android on it, that is how I think of it. I don't think of it as a WM phone that happens to be sort of running Android, a small but important point. I haven't used Windows Mobile now for over two weeks, and there is a reason for that.
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Likewise, I've not run Windows Mobile for about the same amount of time, even when people were getting issues with the early builds, I wasn't.
Windows Mobile for me is gone, even in its current state, it's far more usable than my stock HD2 ever was!
I'm still on Froyo1.0, I've not tried any of the Sense Builds out.
Phil

Ask any one a month ago how they liked the desire build they would have said its buggy and needs to be smoothed out. I have fixed every thing on my desire build (except 3g=working on it) but i have the energy rom now and 2.12 radio and runing the desire v5.7 biuld and let me tell you it is way faster than last month so sept. sounds great for the rest of the bugs to be sorted out so can the desire build run fast on the hd2 just like the born android desire? ill have to say yes
p.s. i cant say ill get rid of winmo all together thats kinda the reason i bought the phone booting into android is just one extra bonus

At the moment there is only a limited amount of RAM available.
And SD cards are really really slow when writing to(even the expensive class 10 ones).
These two factors combined is the biggest performance problem at the moment. Nand and full RAM access is the only solution here I believe.
There are several benchmark programs for Android that you can run on your hd2 to see that in some areas performance is just as good as with the desire already. Thanks to the brilliant minds that work on porting Android.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

runemail said:
At the moment there is only a limited amount of RAM available.
And SD cards are really really slow when writing to(even the expensive class 10 ones).
These two factors combined is the biggest performance problem at the moment. Nand and full RAM access is the only solution here I believe.
There are several benchmark programs for Android that you can run on your hd2 to see that in some areas performance is just as good as with the desire already. Thanks to the brilliant minds that work on porting Android.
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I have the htc incredible for my work phone. I am using a class 6 8gb sdcard, miri's rom, and darkstones hd2froyo. There is almost no difference between the phones. Less then 10% in speed. My incredible is stock however.

Will it be possible to put both android and winmo on nand in the future?

I just recently had the chance to run my HD2 with MattC RC 1.4 side by side with a Desire and an EVO and honestly, there is little to no difference in performance in MY personal build, which for whatever reason has been pretty much flawless since I started using these Android builds. Believe it or not, I have literally never once (knock on wood) had a SOD, other than my bootup having the green screen once or twice and white screen once. I actually tried going back to WinMo the other day and literally just couldn't stomach it, the functionality just doesn't cut it for me even though I still say it is the better "business" platform when compared to Android. Too long winded? Probably.

jjones1983 said:
I just recently had the chance to run my HD2 with MattC RC 1.4 side by side with a Desire and an EVO and honestly, there is little to no difference in performance in MY personal build, which for whatever reason has been pretty much flawless since I started using these Android builds. Believe it or not, I have literally never once (knock on wood) had a SOD, other than my bootup having the green screen once or twice and white screen once. I actually tried going back to WinMo the other day and literally just couldn't stomach it, the functionality just doesn't cut it for me even though I still say it is the better "business" platform when compared to Android. Too long winded? Probably.
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add for that thet we have proper multitouch with no multitouch issues like one (desire , nexusone and incredible )

[Q]HD2 nand daily driver questions

Just as the title states. Ive been holding off on even using my HD2 (still in box) until this very day when you can flash Android right to the nand. As i see we can do this now, but my main concern is, is this stable enough to use as a day to day phone without having any issues? What are the actual limitations versus something like a Nexus S or Nexus One? Im a mobile phone whore by heart (i own a Nexus S right now) but i figured that if i can return my Nexus S and use my HD2 as a daily driver i can save some cash and still have full blown Android. So, is it 100% ready for daily use? Thanks in advance guys.

It was ready for daily use booting android on sd card. I haven't used winmo in over 7 months.

The only problem I have is that you have to manage your hardware a little bit. If you leave GPS and/or Bluetooth on they will drain more battery than they should, even if no app is using them (they drain about 2% battery per hour in standby). Basically you have to make sure they're turned off when you're not using them. As far as I know this happens with all builds. Other than that everything is peachy with my phone.

ive been using for a good 3 days,i have to say its fantastic,minamum lags,running smoothly.fantastic battery life,twice as better than when it was SD,Compared with My girlfriends Desire,battery drain is pretty much the same as hers.Well worth doing,mines only a thew months old,performance is brilliant under Android Nand,will take prob about an hour to set yours up and getting rid of Windows but well worth doing.As its new aswell might take a thew days for the battery to condition itself,just fully charge and then let it go flat when up and running android

Lol sell your unused hd2 and use your nexus s!?
Sent from my HTC bravo using XDA App

Works great for me, I can't use it because of some stupid crap that I rely on windows for, namely being able to specify DNS servers on a 3G connection, and being able to specify which apn/connection a particular email account needs to use in order to sync (for example when I'm on wifi, 1 account can still turn on 3g to sync itself and only itself then disconnect it again in winmo, android can't do that)
Basically my problems are with Android itself, and I really love Android but just can't use it because of the two things above, but Android runs 100% perfect on my HTC HD2 from the NAND

If you want the best of android, i think the nexus s outperforms the hd2 when rooted and modded properly, but yes, the HD2 is good enough for daily use.

I have 2 HD2s, one is running Froyo listed below and I am testing the Gingerbread version of Tytung's nexus one port...
Froyo works awesome (10 out of 10)... Gingerbread some hiccups here and there but overall a 8.5 out of 10.

Wp7 or android?

I am currently using android on my hd2 and i was thinking of trying wp7. My only use is sms calls browsing abd facebook which i could do also do with wp.
Can anybody tell me hows the battery drain in wp .?
Well according to my use?
Also if its stable and fast and everything working?
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latest WP7 is fast but off course bugs will always be there with custom ROM heck even RUU ones have bugs.
you have to charge everyday with WP7 as is for Android, see the link below it might help.
oh BTW you can dual boot if you like.

WP7 is stable and fast and everything works on the HD2.
However, after trying WP7 for a month, I went back to Android (MIUI) for two reasons:
1. Battery drain on WP7 was really bad, wouldn't even get a normal day's use from the battery without having to charge it by mid-afternoon.
2. There just isn't the scope of apps available, and (a personal reason, I know) there were some specific apps I need that I couldn't get for WP7.
The interface is slick and fast, app loading stable, and if some of my niggles were resolved I'd consider going back.
Peace

cheerphaar said:
I am currently using android on my hd2 and i was thinking of trying wp7. My only use is sms calls browsing abd facebook which i could do also do with wp.
Can anybody tell me hows the battery drain in wp .?
Well according to my use?
Also if its stable and fast and everything working?
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The battery can be problematic, but can easily be overcome with some tweaks and a spare battery, its not as much of a pain as you might think, and given that the HD2 had the luxury of being able to swap out batteries unlike some other phones its at least worth considering
if you are only doing as you suggest, FB, SMS, calls, an a bit of browsing. The WP is ideal, in fact id go as far as saying it was made for you out of the box WP beats the others hands down for such usage, it becomes somewhat more grey when you look at expanding on that but that situation will only get better with time.
I think even the most critical critics of WP agree that its people hub social integration (ie phone usage!) is unrivalled out of the box.

Im using it with WP for my main OS and carry a spare battery in my pocket (the cheapest one from ebay with external charger)

i using android but my friend got wp7 for me its better android for him wp7 when i buy my hd2 have wp7 in the same day i flashed for android for me no more win on phone

I would stick with android because it is so versitile. Wp7 is ok but i would say its more for the simple minded i guess i would say. I love android only if it had all the app thats iphone has it would be the best os out there.

chris5s said:
WP7 is stable and fast and everything works on the HD2.
However, after trying WP7 for a month, I went back to Android (MIUI) for two reasons:
1. Battery drain on WP7 was really bad, wouldn't even get a normal day's use from the battery without having to charge it by mid-afternoon.
2. There just isn't the scope of apps available, and (a personal reason, I know) there were some specific apps I need that I couldn't get for WP7.
The interface is slick and fast, app loading stable, and if some of my niggles were resolved I'd consider going back.
Peace
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1oo% agreed on your words

Android
Stick with android so much versatility as stated above and your going to have the same battery drain with either op, Android is definitely the way to go

Stick with Android as WP7 , isnt as stable as Android

WP7 is very smooth and stable
but it does not have enough good apps

Correction, WP is very smooth, stable and out of the box has good functionality, if your wanting a phone with social abilities then its spot on, it does lack expandability though.
Android and WP have there uses, and both are very good at different things, any one that says one or the other is generally bad can and should be ignored
Sent from my HD2 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

I'm starting to be alienated from Android

I've been using Android since 2011 but I'm not happy with it. It always looked like laggy to me but I always didn't care.
Now I'm with HTC One and I'm not happy again. Apps, customization options, etc. are amazing but, even after reading tons of person's "This phone i very smooth, stable" I just can't find this phone smooth or stable nor Android OS. When I install a rom (with fully wipe of course), 1 or 2 day I satisfy with it, it starts to lag, and late responses etc.
I hate IOS either but still, after usign my brothers iphone for a minute, I hate from my phone.
But I don't want to leave Android. When I need to buy a new phone, I always select Android ones because I always believed that the next one will be much more smoother because of new processors etc. but even with the 2013's flagship phone, it hasn't happened yet. (at least for me) :laugh:
What are yours comments??
Note: I didn't open this thread to blame on Android. I just wondered yours comments.

serkanhiziroglu1998 said:
I've been using Android since 2011 but I'm not happy with it. It always looked like laggy to me but I always didn't care.
Now I'm with HTC One and I'm not happy again. Apps, customization options, etc. are amazing but, even after reading tons of person's "This phone i very smooth, stable" I just can't find this phone smooth or stable nor Android OS. When I install a rom (with fully wipe of course), 1 or 2 day I satisfy with it, it starts to lag, and late responses etc.
I hate IOS either but still, after usign my brothers iphone for a minute, I hate from my phone.
But I don't want to leave Android. When I need to buy a new phone, I always select Android ones because I always believed that the next one will be much more smoother because of new processors etc. but even with the 2013's flagship phone, it hasn't happened yet. (at least for me) :laugh:
What are yours comments??
Note: I didn't open this thread to blame on Android. I just wondered yours comments.
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What rom are you using? And what apps? My HTC One is plenty smooth

That's how I was with my old phone. You just need to look up phone statistics and read reviews online. A good phone at a decent price. Don't buy a used or referbished. I agree though. Android isn't the best, but it does get me through my needs.
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What rom are you using? And what apps? My HTC One is plenty smooth
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Firstly thank you for your answer.
I tried tons of roms including ARHD, Insertcoin, GPE Roms, CM. Now I'm with InsertCoin and ElementalX (tried stock kernel too) and after 2 days I got laggy again. I think its not important for me anymore because whenever I ask a question about smoothness I get answers like apps, roms and I try them. I don't install any apps more than 10. Apps I install are generic apps like Twiitter, WhatsApp, TitaniumBackup, Cache cleaner.

Scripts said:
That's how I was with my old phone. You just need to look up phone statistics and read reviews online. A good phone at a decent price. Don't buy a used or referbished. I agree though. Android isn't the best, but it does get me through my needs.
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I got One after watching tons of reviews and its said that its a fast phone. I think I'm obsessed with this smoothness expectation from Android because I used Nexus 4 for 4 months too and I wasn't happy with that too. But still, N4 was much more stable than One for me. :laugh:

I think I know what you're talking about. The phone seems perfectly fast after you install a new rom but then it slows down a lot over time. I have had the same issue with my One and my older S2. But now my phone seems to be really fast all the time with the 4.4.2 GPE. It's a stock ROM but I added some of my own stuff to it. I've been on the same rom for about 2 or 3 weeks now and it seems pretty smooth. Not even the UI stutters anymore. I also used App Ops to fix the battery drain issue with the Kit Kat update and now the phone is perfect. You should try a converting your phone to GPE and see how that is for you. I'm currently very happy with how my phone performs, it ranks high in benchmarks without any overclocking and gets much better battery life as well.

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I think I know what you're talking about. The phone seems perfectly fast after you install a new rom but then it slows down a lot over time. I have had the same issue with my One and my older S2. But now my phone seems to be really fast all the time with the 4.4.2 GPE. It's a stock ROM but I added some of my own stuff to it. I've been on the same rom for about 2 or 3 weeks now and it seems pretty smooth. Not even the UI stutters anymore. I also used App Ops to fix the battery drain issue with the Kit Kat update and now the phone is perfect. You should try a converting your phone to GPE and see how that is for you. I'm currently very happy with how my phone performs, it ranks high in benchmarks without any overclocking and gets much better battery life as well.
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To be honest, your phone is probably laggy because you've rooted it and have flashed the software and firmware multiple times. Run a stock HTC One and it's buttery. Any time I root or jailbreak a phone, I regret it after a while because it seems to screw up the device. I had the 4 and 4S, both were jailbroken and were laggy as hell. My HTC One is pretty unresponsive and laggy, but my girlfriends HTC One is perfect. This phone will definitely be the last phone I ever root/jailbreak.

I have an HTC One
Have always wanted to be on Android, but never really got the "right" feeling for it... tried Samsung Galaxy Nexus when it came, later I tried Samsung Galaxy S3 4G. Thought that one would be a sure thing... seemed it was the android phone every one had.... but was really disappointed... most the poor body, and the sound?
Had an iPhone 5 at this point, got it from work as then hit the market. Had used ios devices before too. They where always smooth and worked.
I always did jailbreak my devices, so you could customize a lot.
But did a 3:rd try for Android, with the HTC ONE.
And this time I aint turning back, sure the build quality in apples products is hard to beat, and I like the screen size a bit more. Even if I have big hands I still feel most phones today are 2hands phones, more or less. Anyhow!
HTC ONE, is running really smooth, I have used a couple of roms, back with Viper at the moment with the ElementarX Kernel.
I never feel that my phone is slow or laggy. Using Nova Launcher.
Would like to run a stable CM 10.2 or 11 thou

I think I experienced this on stock ROM, when my phone was new you could say the smoothness gradually decreased as it filled up with rubbish I guess.
But on ARHD 40.3 I haven't had a problem. Been rocking this ROM since 40.3 was released and see no reason to upgrade or change. Happy where I am with performance and battery life.

While I feel that 4.4/KitKat's new ART runtime does help smooth things out compared to Dalvik, I agree that it's not quite on par with iOS. This is just in scrolling action, though. I feel the One is plenty fast when it comes to processing power and touch response time.

I think it all depends on what you are comparing this phone to. My previous phone came out awhile ago, so of course the HTC One feels very smooth for me.
For me, the smoothest rom is vanilla Android, namely GPE. AOSP roms (like CM) seem to stutter when scrolling, such as in the Settings menu.
If you are comparing Android to iOS, however, there was a post a couple of years ago stating that it is because of how Android renders the interface that makes it laggier than iOS. This is not the post itself, but it breaks it down:
http://www.redmondpie.com/heres-why-androids-ui-will-never-be-as-smooth-as-ios-or-windows-phone-7/

in my opinion,
Facebook or 3rd party integration is the problem; un-link facebook account or at least use your phone without internet connection (3G or wifi i mean) for testing.
i am a one user, with stock 4.3 and happy with it

Thread closed,
As this is not directly related to the HTC One and has become a bit of a phone comparison thread, this is classed as an OT thread and has been clsoed. Please see the link in my signature for OT section in XDA. This would be a better place for threads of this type.