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New "improved" ROM. Anyone try it?

Just saw a tweet from DLife about an improved Froyo 2.2. Anyone try it yet? I'm not sure I want to do a wipe if its not really that much improved.
EDIT: link http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/02/download-new-android-2-2-droid-incredible-build/
EDIT EDIT: My recommendation is that you don't use this build. It lacks the stock wallpapers except for the red swirl. It lacks the stock ringtones, AND I'm not sure it even has Flash 10.1. Some sites don't seem to work now that I installed it and I'm reinstalling the previous 2.2 leak instead of this one.
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Im steering clear from it. I have made a stable ROM based off the first leak, used skyraider2, amd used the leak itself, amd there is nothong wrong with the firsf.
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jdkoreclipse said:
Im steering clear from it. I have made a stable ROM based off the first leak, used skyraider2, amd used the leak itself, amd there is nothong wrong with the firsf.
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So far I agree.... Not worth wiping out everything I've done with the first leak! Unless someone can convince me otherwise.
I do have one question though.... Shouldn't there be some way to update the first leak with a new version in the future without wiping the phone? They should have mostly all the same base right?

eMpTy3000 said:
So far I agree.... Not worth wiping out everything I've done with the first leak! Unless someone can convince me otherwise.
I do have one question though.... Shouldn't there be some way to update the first leak with a new version in the future without wiping the phone? They should have mostly all the same base right?
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Import to the htc basic kitchen and change wipe status
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I'd be more than happy to keep doing "upgrades" if that was the way it worked but these really aren't upgrades; they're new installs. Wiping each time is painful.
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IShootPixels said:
I'd be more than happy to keep doing "upgrades" if that was the way it worked but these really aren't upgrades; they're new installs. Wiping each time is painful.
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Thats why when i make roms, i try to make them flash overs.
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jdkoreclipse said:
Im steering clear from it. I have made a stable ROM based off the first leak, used skyraider2, amd used the leak itself, amd there is nothong wrong with the firsf.
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+100. I've worked out all the bugs that affect my daily usage: 3g hotspot working, no 0's on my Gmail, still pulling 1250-1300+ on Quadrant, market/browser work beautifully. I'll need to see some solid improvements/benchmarks to make it "worth" switching.
Though for posterity's sake, for those concerned about wiping, since it's a 2.2 -> 2.2, I would think a proper titanium restore would work without much issue, app-wise.

Opposite
I am the opposite ... I see no reason to apply a beta radio and a beta pre-release (even one from yesterday) at this point, especially if its going to be a pain in the butt due to radio reflash and app reinstall. Would just as soon wait in hopes that unrEVOked can root the real OTA. Would MUCH rather go thru the pain and effort (and danger) using VZW's release.

Have you gotten Ti backup to work with 2.2? I had issues. It worked to restore my apps from 2.1, but since switching to 2.2 I could do a backup. I remember there being some issue but not what it was. I haven't tried again since.
As for the upgrade, I'm only using the stock Froyo rom and I've found some bugs in it when using Seesmic and Astro amongst others. I think they need to upgrade for 2.2 compatibility before I upgrade the rom.
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Just installed the latest ota. All if well. No problems like the last rom. No lame patches and bugfixes neccessary. Works good. Titanium backuped everything fine. Took me 5 minutes after full wipe to have all my stuff back to normal.

None?
Check your paid market apps and make sure they all show up

Honestly77 said:
Just installed the latest ota. All if well. No problems like the last rom. No lame patches and bugfixes neccessary. Works good. Titanium backuped everything fine. Took me 5 minutes after full wipe to have all my stuff back to normal.
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Did you do a "Backup all user apps + system data" and then "Restore missing apps + all system data" or did you just do apps? I'm new to best practices of Titanium Backup... Thanks!

I just do app+app data. No system crap...it isn't that hard for me to add the 4 icons and clock to the screen and setup some ringer preferences...even with all that it took me 5 minutes. Some people may have insane screens full of widgets and apps...mines pretty simple. Also I already fixed my build.prop Plus I only have 2 paid apps...titanium and phonemypc and I already pulled the apks from my phone to install manually without the market anyway. So I dunno.

Honestly77 said:
I just do app+app data. No system crap...it isn't that hard for me to add the 4 icons and clock to the screen and setup some ringer preferences...even with all that it took me 5 minutes. Some people may have insane screens full of widgets and apps...mines pretty simple. Also I already fixed my build.prop Plus I only have 2 paid apps...titanium and phonemypc and I already pulled the apks from my phone to install manually without the market anyway. So I dunno.
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Well, see?
You had to do a lame fix

Damn. I'd have to go back in and remove all of the bloatware, reinstall all of my apps, and everything else. Not sure I'm up for a minor fix.

Just installed it.. I have to say.. its THE BEST ota leak so far. It's far more stable than the first leak... and it seems like it doesn't drain the battery as much..

Most recent ota leak is a nice improvement over first 2.2 leak. And yeah all you guys saying full wipe is painful.... titanium backup is awesome and can have you back from a full wipe with everything restored and intact within minutes. This 2.2 is faster, fixes most of the problems of the first leak (yes market still needs the fix... so what? Easy easy fix....) and imo is very much worth the upgrade. But seriously only once you know how to extract the most from titanium....
I am more than happy to help anyone with advice on titanium usage or whatever.... pm if you have questions or need help

What's the Market fix?
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bast525 said:
Most recent ota leak is a nice improvement over first 2.2 leak. And yeah all you guys saying full wipe is painful.... titanium backup is awesome and can have you back from a full wipe with everything restored and intact within minutes. This 2.2 is faster, fixes most of the problems of the first leak (yes market still needs the fix... so what? Easy easy fix....) and imo is very much worth the upgrade. But seriously only once you know how to extract the most from titanium....
I am more than happy to help anyone with advice on titanium usage or whatever.... pm if you have questions or need help
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I've got it down to about a half hour doing a Titanium restore. I just use that to restore the apps and the data.
What takes most of the time is getting the screens set up again.

Still seem to have problems with the Market however... intermittent freezing, hangs on "downloading", etc.

Who can build me a custom rom?

Noob here! I hope I didn't post this in the wrong section. I'm wondering who of the pros could build me a custom rom for some htc devices (aria, thunderbolt, and maybe inspire) or if you have one that may be fitting for my needs. I'm sure I could learn how and do it with a kitchen[I made a few for WM devices before]. Or perhaps someone would be willing to walk me through learning how-{I know nothing about programming though}. Right now the Aria is most important as I haven't rooted my Tbolt yet. I find there are lot of roms out there I could try but I need something very stable (I'm giving this Aria to a kid and dont want to have to fix it for him all the time). I don't have the time to follow all this dev stuff and feel like learnig it myself will be a little overwelming...PM me if you feel like
For the Aria...
Im OK with Sense but like to use ADW launcher
Strip out all bloatware including Facebook, Friend Stream, Mobi TV,IM, Mobile Banking, Peep, Where, YPMobile, Weather, Stocks, Utube, Talk, News, All AT&T stuff
Remove Internet App
Remove Gmail & Mail App
Android 2.2 or higher would be cool but not nessiccary
Kill the Market
Ad Google Voice
If you know of a good firewall that can block data except for certain apps (like Voice)
Edit: Swype would be nice too!
Basically He's a kid and I don't want him to have access to all the [email protected] out there That even the cheap stripped AT&T phones have so I chose an Android so i can customize it.

I have a better suggestion, if it's a kid who shall use a smartphone, either change the phone type or go to Wi-Fi Wireless settings in Android and set 3G and Wi-Fi off. A kid isn't smart enought to start the wi-fi and if he does, make sure your wi-fi is password protected (encrypted). Because you can make sure the phone can't access the internet without 2G/3G - Wi-Fi disabled.
Smarter solution then bricking the phone ^^,

If the aria is rooted just uninstall all those apk.
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Yeah but why? If he uninstall Market, how will he get it back? Suppose he could find something like Market.Apk or download it from a update or recovery(?).
Sounds meaningless to go throught that much trouble just to make sure your kid can't access the internet.

Sounds like he needs a butt naked Cm7 or MIUI..........or a flip phone lol

Just install CyanogenMod without the google apps that should cover most of it
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You guys really don't know kids this days, he will get all this stuff back in no time

roalex said:
You guys really don't know kids this days, he will get all this stuff back in no time
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Agreed
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Ya im a kid and the only way my parents can only get my data gone by taking it off the plan o would easily get it back
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I'm not sure if this applies to the aria or not, but on my phone (verizon fascinate), there is a file named pppd_runner in /system/bin/ that, when removed, "breaks" data. Wifi will still work (not sure how to break that though), but he will not be able to receive MMS messages.
You need to be rooted to remove this file, and if you want to restore data on his phone you can simply restore the file. I suggest you backup the file somewhere safe and then remove it.
As for the internet-related apps, you could always remove the .apk files from the phone using titanium backup, root explorer, etc.
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How old is the kid?
Do as you're told and install a CyanogenMod 7 (clean), chance that you brick your phone is there but if you do it perfectly it's nothing to worry about.

Errr Get titanium backup and unistall what you dont want !

[Q] How to backup all data from Atrix?

I am a new android user and my phone is not rooted. I am getting a phone exchange due to voice quality issues. I wanted to know the best way to backup all the setting, applications so when i get a new phone it is excatly like this one.
Thanks in advance.

jph7170 said:
I am a new android user and my phone is not rooted. I am getting a phone exchange due to voice quality issues. I wanted to know the best way to backup all the setting, applications so when i get a new phone it is excatly like this one.
Thanks in advance.
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I use TiBU but since you dont have root maybe this will work for you.

Everyone has trouble when they back up fingerprint settings, just fyi. Personally I root and use titanium backup like the gentleman above. The paid version is the most expensive app I've purchased and worth every penny ^_^ the free version is great as well and since you're probably not the type that needs it over and over, free would do just fine for ya. Hope it helps
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Not that this will help the OP's situation, but Motorola should add full online backup capability to your MotoBlur account. That would make MotoBlur something other than the useless POS it is now.

GoodFoot said:
Not that this will help the OP's situation, but Motorola should add full online backup capability to your MotoBlur account. That would make MotoBlur something other than the useless POS it is now.
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You can use DropBox to store your backups online if you like. Follow that link for extra storage. Here's the Android app for after you sign up: http://goo.gl/EeaT2

a theory I would like some experts to chime in on

I have a theory that Ti Backup or any backing up of apps to save re-installing time when changing to a new ROM is a bad plan. I know you can do it no problem, and that it is a great time saver, but I have a strong feeling that this ultimately results in an unstable phone with mysterious force closes etc.
Even though it's a real pain, I think you are always better off reinstalling your apps from scratch after changing to a new ROM and wiping caches.
what say you?

WTF? said:
I have a theory that Ti Backup or any backing up of apps to save re-installing time when changing to a new ROM is a bad plan. I know you can do it no problem, and that it is a great time saver, but I have a strong feeling that this ultimately results in an unstable phone with mysterious force closes etc.
Even though it's a real pain, I think you are always better off reinstalling your apps from scratch after changing to a new ROM and wiping caches.
what say you?
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I'm no expert, but I agree with you. I have love TiBa, but I haven't ever batch restored all my apps/data at once. I've used it very selectively and never had a problem. I also use it for some of the other options it has... like detaching apps from "my apps" in the Market, for instance. But overall, yes, I think you're right, and it seems like common sense. For me, the point of using TiBa to create complete backups is simply to know that I have them, just in case... this is just my experience, of course...

I use my backup root... Works quite well, but i do not restore any apps which need superuser or something like that. You can handle the force close by fixing permission after restoring apps... But yeah a fresh install seems to be better
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I make backups of apps with Ti but only use it reinstall selected app data if necessary.
Made the noob mistake of restoring system data once but live and learn.
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Reinstalling your apps + data is not the problem. it's reinstalling system data that is the culprit. part of going into a new rom is that the system is set up differently. It is fine if you just restore the apps if they're all functioning normally.
You actually can also filter your batch operations so that you can install specific files and also have it back those files up on a schedule (daily/weekly/monthly/cyclic/etc).
TLDR: reinstalling apps + data is not bad. Reinstalling system data is bad.

mputtr said:
Reinstalling your apps + data is not the problem. it's reinstalling system data that is the culprit. part of going into a new rom is that the system is set up differently. It is fine if you just restore the apps if they're all functioning normally.
You actually can also filter your batch operations so that you can install specific files and also have it back those files up on a schedule (daily/weekly/monthly/cyclic/etc).
TLDR: reinstalling apps + data is not bad. Reinstalling system data is bad.
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Obviously, restoring system data across ROMs is just plain wrong, but even restoring user app/data can be problematic. Just recently I read a post from a user who was regularly restoring user apps/data after ROM updates... the person started experiencing minor glitches with their device, performed a factory reset, re flashed, reinstalled everything from scratch, and the issues resolved themselves... I can't count the times I've read posts like this. Of course, these same users got along just fine for a time before the problems developed, so I agree with you when you said restoring user apps/data is "not bad." But over time, it might not be good either.

WTF? said:
I have a theory that Ti Backup or any backing up of apps to save re-installing time when changing to a new ROM is a bad plan. I know you can do it no problem, and that it is a great time saver, but I have a strong feeling that this ultimately results in an unstable phone with mysterious force closes etc.
Even though it's a real pain, I think you are always better off reinstalling your apps from scratch after changing to a new ROM and wiping caches.
what say you?
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Calling it a theory would imply that you are going to present some evidence supporting it, which you have not. No evidence, its just a hypothesis.

Well obviously by copying data back and forth regularly you increase the potential for corruption etc to occur, whatever the cause. Is that not just a given? But unless you're doing it an unnecessary amount of times I shouldn't think you would run into noticeable trouble.

I always sucessfully batch restore my apps and app data (with Titanium Backup Pro) after a format of system and never have run into any issues.
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Ditamae said:
Obviously, restoring system data across ROMs is just plain wrong, but even restoring user app/data can be problematic. Just recently I read a post from a user who was regularly restoring user apps/data after ROM updates... the person started experiencing minor glitches with their device, performed a factory reset, re flashed, reinstalled everything from scratch, and the issues resolved themselves... I can't count the times I've read posts like this. Of course, these same users got along just fine for a time before the problems developed, so I agree with you when you said restoring user apps/data is "not bad." But over time, it might not be good either.
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I have been doing this since the old winmo days and have not had a single problem with it. There's a reason you do multiple copies which makes life a little easier.
I personally have not had any problems over the past 4 years of using titanium across winmo to android. So I disagree with the OP's theory. Backing up app/data wont make it go bad over time. It's not a consumable so it doesn't matter how many times you back it up or over how many years you do. if you keep your app updated and you back it up, it wont go bad over time.

G1ForFun said:
I always sucessfully batch restore my apps and app data (with Titanium Backup Pro) after a format of system and never have run into any issues.
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Ditto for me, though these days I just upgrade the same ROM to new versions and only wipe the caches.
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mputtr said:
I have been doing this since the old winmo days and have not had a single problem with it. There's a reason you do multiple copies which makes life a little easier.
I personally have not had any problems over the past 4 years of using titanium across winmo to android. So I disagree with the OP's theory. Backing up app/data wont make it go bad over time. It's not a consumable so it doesn't matter how many times you back it up or over how many years you do. if you keep your app updated and you back it up, it wont go bad over time.
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As I said, I've never had an issue using it selectively, but I was hesitant to rely on it too heavily. I need to bear in mind that for every user who reports a problem, there are usually many more that get along just fine. Thanks for the input.

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I always sucessfully batch restore my apps and app data (with Titanium Backup Pro) after a format of system and never have run into any issues.
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Zero problems here..in fact it has fixed problems for me in the past I love TB

the point is that backed up apps and data don't just go bad over time. There's a reason why you make multiple back ups.

At the end of the day, fresh > backup

Unless you have important or critical data, then backup>fresh. I have clients cry because they didn't have a backup at home or on their phone...just saying, grown men and women crying because they never thought about spending some cash for peace of mind. My backups on my phone and home network have come in handy multiple times! Backups to me are indispensible...

I use mybackup pro.
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On the other hand its fun just to back up the apks of stuff you like on your cpu, so you can make a new phone experience when you make a big change--say by using a dif combo of apps/themes.
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G1ForFun said:
I always sucessfully batch restore my apps and app data (with Titanium Backup Pro) after a format of system and never have run into any issues.
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+1
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Yeah i think so too. Because ti backup sometimes restores apps but the apps FCs :/ i dont like ti backup...
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Titanium backup question

So I think I'm moving to the Sensation after some major issues with the Glacier. (I sure got T Mobile's attention. That's for sure. They actually offered me an Amaze as a free replacement. But it's just too big in my hand and pocket.)
Anywho....can I backup my Glacier apps and data with Titanium Backup and reinstall them to a Sensation? Or will it make everything screwball?
It's more the data within the apps that I don't want to lose. Not to mention all the settings for various apps that I don't feel like spending 9 hours pouring through to get it all back to the way I like it.
I can live with redownloading all the apps from the Market if I have to. But I'd like to know if I can use Titanium to at least reinstall all the data.
(If I have to beat certain Angry Birds levels again.....those green pigs are going to die)
It's apps like Jorte Calendar that I've spent hours tweaking the color schemes on that I don't want to lose. And for some reason Jorte doesn't have a 'save settings to file" option like Go SMS does.

Skipjacks said:
So I think I'm moving to the Sensation after some major issues with the Glacier. (I sure got T Mobile's attention. That's for sure. They actually offered me an Amaze as a free replacement. But it's just too big in my hand and pocket.)
Anywho....can I backup my Glacier apps and data with Titanium Backup and reinstall them to a Sensation? Or will it make everything screwball?
It's more the data within the apps that I don't want to lose. Not to mention all the settings for various apps that I don't feel like spending 9 hours pouring through to get it all back to the way I like it.
I can live with redownloading all the apps from the Market if I have to. But I'd like to know if I can use Titanium to at least reinstall all the data.
(If I have to beat certain Angry Birds levels again.....those green pigs are going to die)
It's apps like Jorte Calendar that I've spent hours tweaking the color schemes on that I don't want to lose. And for some reason Jorte doesn't have a 'save settings to file" option like Go SMS does.
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lol the Sensation looks really nice! i really want one...
and to answer your question, yes you can. i've tried moving app data from one phone to another (both androids, two completely different brands) using TitaniumBackup, everything was fine

Well that's a load off my mind!

Tb only works with rooted devices just a heads up.
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coupetastic-droid said:
Tb only works with rooted devices just a heads up.
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Yeah...the Sensation will barely be warmed up before I have it rooted. I assure you.

I've moved app data from the HTC Thunderbolt to the HTC Rezound with no problems. Of course make sure not to include system data just apps and app data.
Im sure a few apps may cause problems but its rare. I would do it in sections and make a nandroid backup maybe a third of the way or halfway so if there's a problem you won't have to start all the way over.
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