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Amazon just announced free unlimited streaming for Prime members. Prime membership costs $79 per year.
I've been a prime member for years for the free shipping from Amazon. I've always thought it was well worth the fee, especially if you buy a lot of stuff online.
Now, Prime membership includes streaming of over 5,000 movies and TV shows, and the best part is it works on my EVO using the browser! Hopefully they'll have an app soon, but the browser works great with flash.
I still don't see why Amazon can do it but Netflix can't!
Who has a better movie selection between Amazon Prime and Netflix?
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I saw this elsewhere, wondered if it worked. Good news, makes me think I need prime back.
Looking through the Amazon movies, I'm thinking Netflix is better right now. I just hope Amazon continues to improve. I think the fact that they're now offering unlimited streaming shows they're ready to compete with Netflix.
I'm a Netflix member, but am pretty frustrated with them for not providing any way to watch their movies on an android device.
Go Amazon!
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Looking through the Amazon movies, I'm thinking Netflix is better right now. I just hope Amazon continues to improve. I think the fact that they're now offering unlimited streaming shows they're ready to compete with Netflix.
I'm a Netflix member, but am pretty frustrated with them for not providing any way to watch their movies on an android device.
Go Amazon!
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Competition is always a good thing. If Amazon would stream newer releases and increase their selections, I would probably give it a shot. I have Netflix and really enjoy, but the only issue I have is with their selection of newer releases available for immediate viewing instead of ordering the DVD. It seems like the only movies available for immediate viewing have to be more than 1-2 years old.
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Awesome news!
Can't wait to try this out. Considering there are about a half a dozen ways to get a free trial of Prime it is worth a try for anyone. I'm not sure if they still do it but students can get a free year trial.
michaelvibe said:
Can't wait to try this out. Considering there are about a half a dozen ways to get a free trial of Prime it is worth a try for anyone. I'm not sure if they still do it but students can get a free year trial.
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Oh never mind I just found out that you have to actually pay for the membership to get the free streaming. Tricky tricky Amazon.
'I still don't see why Amazon can do it but Netflix can't!"
They do, for the wd 7 phone for tmobile and the iPhone,but not for android.
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Does amazon prime do HD video?
JUST2SUAVE said:
'I still don't see why Amazon can do it but Netflix can't!"
They do, for the wd 7 phone for tmobile and the iPhone,but not for android.
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Yeah, that's my point. I'm really frustrated that Netflix can't release an Android app that works on existing phones. They're supposedly going to support new phones that have DRM built in to the CPU, but won't be backwards compatible with existing phones.
Amazon has no problem making it work with Flash, so why can't Netflix do the same? That's my point. I wouldn't be surprised if we get an app soon that makes the interface a bit more user friendly than using web browser, but hey, it works!
Nice! Now I can get more use out of my free Prime account. I wonder if they'll have a PS3 and/or Xbox 360 app too.
Roy Jovero said:
Nice! Now I can get more use out of my free Prime account. I wonder if they'll have a PS3 and/or Xbox 360 app too.
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If you have a free trial account they will make you pay the renewal fee before you can view it.
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rtmeikle said:
Yeah, that's my point. I'm really frustrated that Netflix can't release an Android app that works on existing phones. They're supposedly going to support new phones that have DRM built in to the CPU, but won't be backwards compatible with existing phones.
Amazon has no problem making it work with Flash, so why can't Netflix do the same? That's my point. I wouldn't be surprised if we get an app soon that makes the interface a bit more user friendly than using web browser, but hey, it works!
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pretty sure netflix has said multiple times that it isn't that they don't want to, its that they can't because the companies they have contracts with say they have to meet very specific terms to do so.
Hence, they are saying, that android is "too open" and there for these companies are scared of people ripping off the netflix shows as they are playing and keeping them.
so to keep android as open as it is, they are going to have processors that allow the DRM capabilities to keep these companies happy, so android doesn't have to be as locked down ad WP7 or iOS4
took some screen shots for anyone wondering: (took these on my Gtab but same thing except smaller on the evo)
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free prime accounts wont stream anything, it has to be a prime account that is paid for. Quite disappointing.
Honestly disapointed with the movie selection on netflix anyway. Its great for tv shows, but even finding movies that are a few years old is hard (for streaming). Until they catch up with current movies im not too worried about watching on android.
If Amazon or some other competitor were to release actual new releases than id jump ship in a heartbeat...and Android support would make it a no brainer.
Besides which whos gonna rip a movie from a streaming service using their phone...lighten up movie industry...you make record profits in poor economic times and than have the gravitas to complain about pirating...how bout you stop paying rich people millions to play pretend and drop ticket prices to a level the average person can afford
awesome... works on 3g there seems to be a bit of buffering but that is to be expected. have not tested on 4g or wifi as of yet... doctor who david tennant special plays just fine. and amazon video works on fedora. goodbuy netflix
I'm loving this. Works good on 3g and great on 4g. Would love a dedicated app just for this so I don't have to launch the browser everytime.
Thanks OP for pointing this out! I feel like a dumbass because I am a prime member, and when this happened a couple days ago I thought "oh all that selection is on netflix, PAsS!" Didnt even think to try it on my Evo. Nice.
Read this over on modmyi.com Do you think this is fair?http://modmyi.com/forums/mac-news/754963-sony-granted-access-two-years-geohots-paypal-records.html
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On March 5th, we reported that Federal Magistrate Joseph Spero officially authorized Sony to subpoena Geohot's web provider to secure the official log of IP addresses that visited GeoHot.com between January 2009 and early 2011. In addition to Sony being given access to this information, the PS3 maker is about to delve even deeper into Geohot's personal records. This week Sony was also granted access rights to all of Geohot's PayPal records for 2009, 2010, and even January of 2011.
The reason Sony was given access to Geohot's personal PayPal log is the same reason the company was similarly handed all of the other data it requested. According to Sony, the information will help determine whether the company should sue George "Geohot" Hotz in New Jersey or San Francisco. NJ is Geohot's home state, but San Francisco is where his jailbreak files were allegedly most downloaded (plus, San Francisco is also close to Sony headquarters and a trial close to home would be nice).
If you're scratching your head on this one, you're not alone. After all, Sony is looking into more than 24 months of PayPal records even though the primary hack they're upset about is only a few months old. Nonetheless, even on the heels of Sony's latest over-the-top effort to publicly embarrass Geohot in front of the entire jailbreaking community, few are expressing outrage over Sony's ability to acquire this relatively sensitive information all for the sake of "making an example" out of a lone 21-year-old hacker.
All I know is that the hacks he apparently opened the gates for have ruined games like Modern Warfare 2 for me.. they have killed some games and I don't agree with that at all. I don't support anyone who made hacking the online play of the ps3 possible.
Rooting my phone is much different because I am not ruining the user experience for countless other people, when you hack and cheat ps3 games online.. you are.
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All I know is that the hacks he apparently opened the gates for have ruined games like Modern Warfare 2 for me.. they have killed some games and I don't agree with that at all. I don't support anyone who made hacking the online play of the ps3 possible.
Rooting my phone is much different because I am not ruining the user experience for countless other people, when you hack and cheat ps3 games online.. you are.
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+1 Damn Right.
Rippley05 said:
All I know is that the hacks he apparently opened the gates for have ruined games like Modern Warfare 2 for me.. they have killed some games and I don't agree with that at all. I don't support anyone who made hacking the online play of the ps3 possible.
Rooting my phone is much different because I am not ruining the user experience for countless other people, when you hack and cheat ps3 games online.. you are.
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I dont believe he necessarily opened up hacks in games. He's known for jailbreaking the ps3 so u can burn games and make your console backwards compatible with ps and ps2 games, and also jailbreaking the iphone/ipod. If you buy something, ITS YOURS! Do what you want with the damn thing, void the warranty, explore options. Why get sued for doing what you want to do with your item?
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I dont believe he necessarily opened up hacks in games. He's known for jailbreaking the ps3 so u can burn games and make your console backwards compatible with ps and ps2 games, and also jailbreaking the iphone/ipod. If you buy something, ITS YOURS! Do what you want with the damn thing, void the warranty, explore options. Why get sued for doing what you want to do with your item?
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Sure you should be able to do what you want with your ps3, but only if it doesn't affect others. aka hacks in game which arent possible without a jail broken counsel if i understand it correctly.
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All I know is that the hacks he apparently opened the gates for have ruined games like Modern Warfare 2 for me.. they have killed some games and I don't agree with that at all. I don't support anyone who made hacking the online play of the ps3 possible.
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I didn't know that was possible. How can you hack online play to benefit the gamer?
Edit: Let me rephrase that. Not how do I hack it in the sense of I want to do it, but what benefits or advantages can you get from this? I thought it was just to burn games and for reverse compatibility with older PS games.
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I dont believe he necessarily opened up hacks in games. He's known for jailbreaking the ps3 so u can burn games and make your console backwards compatible with ps and ps2 games, and also jailbreaking the iphone/ipod. If you buy something, ITS YOURS! Do what you want with the damn thing, void the warranty, explore options. Why get sued for doing what you want to do with your item?
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From the link you posted.
"Geohot's hack just allowed a bypass of the system to stop checking for official Sony signed programs which allows you to fully use the system to run your own code and such which really opens the door to homebrew applications."
He may or may not have wrote any hacks or cheats, who knows. He did make it possible for others to do it for the sake of "homebrew" apps.
The problem with your argument of "it's yours do what you want" is this... Your ps3 is yours and you paid for it, my ps3 is mine and I paid for it. When you start doing things to yours that completely ruin my experience when playing.. then it's an issue. If people only hacked the game that didn't involve online play, nobody would say anything. The fact that some powerful hacks/mods that I won't even get into here made it's way to the online play is what the major problem here is.
Besides, you bought your ps3 so you do own the system.. you do NOT own the OS it runs. If you want to develop and code your own version to play on your own network.. then you can do anything you want. Just because you bought a ps3 doesn't mean you own any portion of their OS or the PSN.. so no, you can't do anything you want.
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I didn't know that was possible. How can you hack online play to benefit the gamer?
Edit: Let me rephrase that. Not how do I hack it in the sense of I want to do it, but what benefits or advantages can you get from this? I thought it was just to burn games and for reverse compatibility with older PS games.
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In games like modern warfare 2 there were wall hacks, aimbot hacks, god mode hacks.. I mean you name it, they had it. It was a joke.
Hack YOUR game all you want, but stick to the part of it that isn't online. When you code things to work on the PSN and ruin it for me and thousands of other people... there is a problem with that. I didn't pay for my ps3 and my games just to go online and get cheated by some 12 year old watching tutorials on youtube on how to enable godmode.
Go check out the callofduty.com forums sometime, the ps3 section. Granted it is full of kids who are crying about everything in the game.. but it also full of people who have been banned for jailbreaking their ps3.
Rippley05 said:
From the link you posted.
"Geohot's hack just allowed a bypass of the system to stop checking for official Sony signed programs which allows you to fully use the system to run your own code and such which really opens the door to homebrew applications."
He may or may not have wrote any hacks or cheats, who knows. He did make it possible for others to do it for the sake of "homebrew" apps.
The problem with your argument of "it's yours do what you want" is this... Your ps3 is yours and you paid for it, my ps3 is mine and I paid for it. When you start doing things to yours that completely ruin my experience when playing.. then it's an issue. If people only hacked the game that didn't involve online play, nobody would say anything. The fact that some powerful hacks/mods that I won't even get into here made it's way to the online play is what the major problem here is.
Besides, you bought your ps3 so you do own the system.. you do NOT own the OS it runs. If you want to develop and code your own version to play on your own network.. then you can do anything you want. Just because you bought a ps3 doesn't mean you own any portion of their OS or the PSN.. so no, you can't do anything you want.
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Well played sir!
Get over it, its a game its not the end of the world. There have been cheats for games since day one and there always will be if you don't like it don't play them or complain to Sony for creating a system that can get hacked by a lone 21 year old that in my opinion they should employ to help make the ps3 more unexploitable.
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Kstarz said:
Get over it, its a game its not the end of the world. There have been cheats for games since day one and there always will be if you don't like it don't play them or complain to Sony for creating a system that can get hacked by a lone 21 year old that in my opinion they should employ to help make the ps3 more unexploitable.
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And anyone caught cheating or modding will be banned, just go check out some of the forums and you will see. There will definitely be cheats, only now there are ways to report these cheats and people are being console banned. Keep cheating, eventually you'll get tired of buying a new ps3 everytime you get console banned... that helps me "get over it"
You don't have to agree with me, doesn't really matter if you don't. Sony is taking big steps to cut out hacking.. and you don't have to like that either.. but I guess you'll just have to "get over it".
Kstarz said:
Get over it, its a game its not the end of the world. There have been cheats for games since day one and there always will be if you don't like it don't play them or complain to Sony for creating a system that can get hacked by a lone 21 year old that in my opinion they should employ to help make the ps3 more unexploitable.
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Pretty much true. They should have hired his ass. I heard that Sony tried to interview the creator of Clockwork Mod Recovery also but he denied. Sticking it to the man...
Kstarz said:
Get over it, its a game its not the end of the world. There have been cheats for games since day one and there always will be if you don't like it don't play them or complain to Sony for creating a system that can get hacked by a lone 21 year old that in my opinion they should employ to help make the ps3 more unexploitable.
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Sounds like someone needs to cheat to be competitive.
knowledge561 said:
Pretty much true. They should have hired his ass. I heard that Sony tried to interview the creator of Clockwork Mod Recovery also but he denied. Sticking it to the man...
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At any given time you can go online in Call of Duty:Black Ops and have anywhere from 300,00 to 700,00 people playing. Sometimes more than that.. so well over a million people play this game online.
IF I have to explain how hiring a guy who made it possible to, at the very least, "piss off" the majority of these people would be a bad business move.. then I won't even try.
He wasnt really creating it to be a entry to online cheating. He just wanted a backwards compatible console with 3rd party and homebrew apps. Why not share that with the online community who want to customize their system? Theres been cheating on ps3 way before he jailbroke it. Im pretty sure of that.
Yeah he did open doors for homebrew code; I can remember playing mw2 and people had wall hacks(could see enemy thru walls) ,getting nukes in 4 kill care package killstreaks(nuke is 25 kills without dying lol) ,so much hacking it was just insane. Black ops team does a find job with Modding, you mod/hack you get the banhammer in less than 24 hours. That kid is a freaking genius though.
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halorin said:
Sounds like someone needs to cheat to be competitive.
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Fyi I don't own a PlayStation so yes call me a cheater all day long but lol at you and I also do not care if anybody agrees with me but are Sony turning into apple ? money grabbing at every opportunity even skanking a 21 year old.
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knowledge561 said:
He wasnt really creating it to be a entry to online cheating. He just wanted a backwards compatible console with 3rd party and homebrew apps. Why not share that with the online community who want to customize their system? Theres been cheating on ps3 way before he jailbroke it. Im pretty sure of that.
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Come on, Geo is a smart guy. He's smart enough to know what he was enabling. I'm not saying the guy should be set on fire.. but something needed to be done to stop it.
Anyone who wants to play old ps2 games that bad, go get a friggin ps2, they are dirt cheap these days. The ps3 security was pretty solid before this jailbreak, I won't say it was hack free, but not the overwhelming mess it was the last few months. Go youtube some hacked lobbies on modern warefare2, it was a disaster and I'm not joking.
But still. I mean c'mon. They are suing the crap out of this guy for bs. Okay he found a way to penetrate your walls, fix the damn walls completely and stop pushing crappy weekly updates that do nothing. Since they have money, they trying to set the hacking community straight and scare us.
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knowledge561 said:
But still. I mean c'mon. They are suing the crap out of this guy for bs. Okay he found a way to penetrate your walls, fix the damn walls completely and stop pushing crappy weekly updates that do nothing. Since they have money, they trying to set the hacking community straight and scare us.
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Why shouldn't they set them straight? If every game you've ever bought online was hacked into things that were just "silly", then eventually people would just stop buying them at all.
They need to tighten up their "walls" but if they don't lay the smackdown on people who "penetrate the walls" then fixing them will not be enough. There will always be people trying to hack the ever loving crap out of it unless they start coming down hard on those people.
Geo is still young and I agree that he's a damn genius when it comes to this stuff. If he starts using his talents for something useful, then he will be perfectly fine..
**edit** Another thing here.. we aren't talking about a random hacker here and there. No, not at all. Geo made it pretty simple for people to hack/mod the ps3. Some games, like mw2, were completely overrun with hackers... completely. It was only a matter of time before it made it's way to every online game out there, unless it was taken care of early on.. like they are trying to do.
so the uk release date is finally official
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Samsung has just delivered a most welcome (and concrete) bit of news for British smartphone lovers. Its next do-it-all Android superphone will be available on May 1st in the United Kingdom. The Galaxy S II will emulate its predecessor by being made available "across all major networks and retailers." The press release promises a 1.2GHz dual-core processor, which indicates we're looking at the Exynos 4210 variant of this handset. We'll try to track down availability information for the rest of Europe, but at least Brits can now stop fretting about the delay / non-delay of this marquee phone's launch.
well, it looks like this galaxy s2 gossip section will soon die out, and turn into help and development, i must say it was fun finding breaking news, or some foreign sellers guess of a price or release date, and posting it everywhere like its big news haha, but i really will miss the fun of the hunt for information with you all. now i guess its time to find a cheap seller eh? any suggestions?
here is samsungs full press release statement
SAMSUNG ANNOUNCES UK AVAILABILITY OF THE GALAXY S II
Samsung's most powerful smartphone yet set to hit UK shores on 1st May
11th April 2011, London, UK – Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., today announces that its slimmest and lightest smartphone yet, the Samsung Galaxy S II (Model: GT-I9100), will be available in UK shops on 1st May 2011. The Galaxy S II is the first handset to offer Samsung's Super AMOLED Plus screen technology, the largest, brightest and most colourful screen available in Samsung's portfolio of devices.
Super slim (8.49mm) and lightweight (116g) Samsung's Galaxy S II runs on Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) and is super-fast thanks to its dual-core 1.2GHz processor. The device's exceptionally bright screen makes it perfect for watching movies and TV or playing games and looking at apps, with its ground-breaking 'organic' LED technology, Super AMOLED Plus also saving energy so you can enjoy watching content without affecting the battery life.
The Galaxy S II is built for multi-tasking, its dual-core processor makes switching between applications and loading web pages such as Google, Yahoo and YouTube quick, whilst superior 3D hardware means games and videos can be loaded and played with ease. What's more, there's immediate access to content and services such as catch up TV and movie downloads, thanks to super-fast connectivity and WiFi, with speeds up to 21Mbps which provides increased download speeds, and Bluetooth 3.0+HS which reduces data transfer times significantly.
Simon Stanford, Managing Director, Mobile, Samsung UK and Ireland said: "From the moment it was revealed at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona there has been a huge buzz about the Galaxy S II, so we're pleased to announce that it will be available for UK customers to buy from 1st May. Our slimmest, lightest, fastest smartphone is our first device to offer of Super AMOLED Plus screen technology, alongside the most advanced technical specifications including the latest Android OS and a dual core processor. We're confident it's a great package for anyone wanting a superior smartphone experience."
The Galaxy S II also features an 8 megapixel camera with 1080p HD recording and playback, Samsung's patented AllShare technology so you can share pictures, movies, and music with other devices and Samsung's new Kies Air which lets people manage their smartphone contents from their PC via local WiFi connections.
A new 'Live Panel' feature on the Galaxy S II allows aggregation of live web, social networking and application contents to a single customisable home-screen, whilst it's possible to place all the important parts of your life onto three adjacent home screens which you can switch between simply by pressing and holding on the screen. As with all the Samsung Galaxy family, the Galaxy S II features Samsung Hubs, providing a huge range of entertainment content, advanced mobile games and the ability to manage social networking accounts.
The Samsung Galaxy S II will be available in the UK across all major networks and retailers.
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this has been mentioned in a few posts already in the last 15-20 hours. And there is even a dedicated thread for the UK announcement
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030910
OMG, not another thread...
Mods :- Please merge the threads.
soraxd said:
so the uk release date is finally official
Samsung has just delivered a most welcome (and concrete) bit of news for British smartphone lovers. Its next do-it-all Android superphone will be available on May 1st in the United Kingdom. The Galaxy S II will emulate its predecessor by being made available "across all major networks and retailers." The press release promises a 1.2GHz dual-core processor, which indicates we're looking at the Exynos 4210 variant of this handset. We'll try to track down availability information for the rest of Europe, but at least Brits can now stop fretting about the delay / non-delay of this marquee phone's launch.
well, it looks like this galaxy s2 gossip section will soon die out, and turn into help and development, i must say it was fun finding breaking news, or some foreign sellers guess of a price or release date, and posting it everywhere like its big news haha, but i really will miss the fun of the hunt for information with you all. now i guess its time to find a cheap seller eh? any suggestions?
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Yeah the hunt was fun... The hunt for root and custom roms is next
lol ugh, thought i was the first to it.. well i dont think you need to try and have some mods kill it haha, i mean if no one replies to it itll just go down to the bottom of the list sheese..
but yeh now its the hunt for root! (think we still need to find the best priced dealer xp)
BTW, please credit Engadget for the article you ripped from them.
Samsung Galaxy S II To be available May 1st in The UK - Engadget
ya lol they would be so mad if some guy on a message board delivered the same news engadget did without crediting them. i bet the editor in chief had steam coming out of his ears when he saw the op doing this
buttes said:
ya lol they would be so mad if some guy on a message board delivered the same news engadget did without crediting them. i bet the editor in chief had steam coming out of his ears when he saw the op doing this
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A law is a law, no matter if you find it ridicule or not, it is illegal.
Wait what, what law prevents someone from posting news on a forum without linking to the source? It's not like the OP is making money doing it and I doubt he expected anyone to be a sissy about it.
I don't believe its truly about crediting Engadget, but rather to support his statement and cite the article.
woo, already a second page, and all hate! awesome, haha, xda's the only place you can gather fellow phone lovers to all come together and try and rid each other off till theres no one left, lol think its time to find a new forum..
buttes said:
Wait what, what law prevents someone from posting news on a forum without linking to the source? It's not like the OP is making money doing it and I doubt he expected anyone to be a sissy about it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement
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soraxd said:
woo, already a second page, and all hate! awesome, haha, xda's the only place you can gather fellow phone lovers to all come together and try and rid each other off till theres no one left, lol think its time to find a new forum..
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don't overreact, no one is doing this out of evil feelings I am sure
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement
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Then in that case I don't know how adding the link would even fix anything. He still would have copied the words from the article. Same goes for any other news posted on this website.
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This page is for people disappointed by S/Fonys (formerly Sony Ericsson) decision to pull the Xperia Play from the ICS update list, several months after committing to it.
For those Xperia Play users our there, make sure Sony knows you won't forget this and won't just be walked over.
Join the boycott. #SONYmakeforget
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Join the boycott. #SONYmakeforget
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Umm, it's a little late for that. They got your money for the Xperia Play, and since there are few enough of us Play users, our boycott will not many any bit of a difference to Sony.
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Umm, it's a little late for that. They got your money for the Xperia Play, and since there are few enough of us Play users, our boycott will not many any bit of a difference to Sony.
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Just because they already got our money for the Xperia Play doesn't mean we can't deny them any future custom.
If its a choice out of doing something but failing or doing nothing and being a doormat, I choose the former. Each to their own.
I'll be getting the Hayabusa.
Its threads like these that are making me loose faith in most of the Xplay community.
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Its threads like these that are making me loose faith in most of the Xplay community.
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Its posts like these that help me understand why companies get away with half of the antics they currently get away with. Damn fanboys
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Its posts like these that help me understand why companies get away with half of the antics they currently get away with. Damn fanboys
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What's with this sense of entitlement? You bought a product. You didn't sign a contract. Sony can make any call they want. As much as you don't like it, Sony did it to help xperia users. You'd probably want to boycott Sony if they released ICS and it was worse than gingerbread. Just cut the crap with these stupid threads.
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I bought the xplay on the commitment given by sony that the phone would see the ICS update. Sure, no contract but definitely covered under consumer law here in the UK.
As much as you don't like it, not everyone believes every word Sony says as if its holy scripture. Nor does everyone believe that they put enough effort into fulfilling their commitment to update the device.
To answer your last comment; no.
Boycott???
Please, grow up.
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Join the boycott.
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Erm......no! Grow up. So we don't get one meaningless update. Why is this bothering people so much? If Sony didn't announce that we were getting it, people wouldn't care. There's still gonna be custom ICS roms, so what's the problem?
What's worse are the babies who say they're never buying Sony phones again. Over one update? Ok, by all means give up on the best make of phones over one little update.
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Boycott???
Please, grow up.
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Yes Mr Wolf, boycott.
I am not boycotting Sony, but ppl who do have reason, the Other OS PS3 thing, the X10 eclair/froyo thing, and now this.
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Yes Mr Wolf, boycott.
I am not boycotting Sony, but ppl who do have reason, the Other OS PS3 thing, the X10 eclair/froyo thing, and now this.
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Other OS on PS3 annoyed the hell outta me. Due to not having a laptop at the time my PS3 became my desktop. Then they removed it...Then my PS3 broke
Then I started using OnLive instead well, abusing the 30min Free Trials XD
Still, I'm not boycotting. Sony have a good reason for not updating. However, I do think they should release the code that they have now so that devs can work on it some more for people who want it.
Me, I'm sticking to Gingerbread...Makes my games work
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Boycott???
Please, grow up.
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Always bound to hit a nerve with some fanboys. Come again
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Erm......no! Grow up. So we don't get one meaningless update. Why is this bothering people so much? If Sony didn't announce that we were getting it, people wouldn't care. There's still gonna be custom ICS roms, so what's the problem?
What's worse are the babies who say they're never buying Sony phones again. Over one update? Ok, by all means give up on the best make of phones over one little update.
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If your fine with the news, good for you, im glad. As it happens, some of us aren't, that's ok also... see how that works?
You need to realize that not everyone shares your every opinion or view on some things, deal with it
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Yes Mr Wolf, boycott.
I am not boycotting Sony, but ppl who do have reason, the Other OS PS3 thing, the X10 eclair/froyo thing, and now this.
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This. Though you forgot to mention the YLOD on the original phat PS3s.
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Other OS on PS3 annoyed the hell outta me. Due to not having a laptop at the time my PS3 became my desktop. Then they removed it...Then my PS3 broke
Then I started using OnLive instead well, abusing the 30min Free Trials XD
Still, I'm not boycotting. Sony have a good reason for not updating. However, I do think they should release the code that they have now so that devs can work on it some more for people who want it.
Me, I'm sticking to Gingerbread...Makes my games work
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No ones forcing anyone to join the boycott mate. Your entitled to your own views on the matter and I respect that.
As for Sony releasing their source for it, I'd say there is more chance in Syria stop killing their own people. Not very likely in other words.
I'm in on the boat. Quite frankly - if I had known Xplay to not get any update I would consider buying a phone that would or already has like G.Nexus. I thought since X.play will be on par in terms of software why the heck not when I'm getting the gamepad.
What sony did was -dare I say- fraudulent. They have advertised on false information - on the premise of which people have - TRUSTED - and bought their phone. That is a VERY legit reason to be pissed about.
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Yes Mr Wolf, boycott.
I am not boycotting Sony, but ppl who do have reason, the Other OS PS3 thing, the X10 eclair/froyo thing, and now this.
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First of all, if we are not getting ICS is not directly Sony's fault:
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Let's start from the beginning. The Play, from a pure hardware view, can run ICS. Sony, HTC and other companies are releasing hardware with ICS and lower specs than the Play (Tapioca, Desire C). We've seen that the beta runs mighty fine in the performance department, and it's obvious that the job can be finished if Sony cares to do so.
However, this is a matter of the gaming ecosystem. In short: the only companies Sony cares about are the big names like EA, Gameloft, Rockstar, etc. as they make the big majority of the Play game sales.
However, with regard to development, the Play is not important to those big names: they see it as "the redheaded stepchild Android", because they have to make extra effort to make it work with the game pads, instead of easily deploying the code in it like they do in the whole different platforms they code for (not only mobile phones, but smart TV's, console-related app stores, Steam and so on). Sony bribed those big developers with a lot of cash (remember all those free EA games and temporary exclusives?) so that the Play remained visible.
Fast forward to now. Gingerbread is present in a good 60% of Android Play Store-running hardware. ICS has only like.a 4%. Android is the best selling platform, with, let's say 500 million active devices. If my numbers are not wrong, that gives 300M GB devices 20M ICS ones. Developing with ICS in mind implies higher development costs, because you have to study the new features and use them. And of course, big name developers target wide audiences: by default they'll program with Gingerbread in mind, so they couldn't care less about ICS right now.
Someone mentioned Windows 7 incompatibility with old games: there is actually a Compatibility mode which was mainly designed for the purpose of using older games. Now Steam has taken care of that, which suits MS fine.
With the ICS upgrade, Sony probably contacted their "partners" and asked them to update their software (basically switch from the Sony custom gamepad framework to Google's standard one which Sony probably contributed themselves) for it to work properly in ICS, like they do in Sony gaming platforms. But unlike the PlayStations, it's those big name developers who are in control now, particularly in Android. Therefore, they showed Sony the middle finger.
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TL;DR this is a power struggle between Sony and the big name game developers. The latter have won here, at the expense of the users. Support independent developers but make sure they don't make the "big name" status, because they'll get the need to control everything and screw users like this.
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So I don't know why the hell you should boycott Sony, while they where trully wanting to launch the update (there you have the beta as a proof of it).
Second, the Sony that disabled the "Other OS" option on PS3 (Sony Computer Entertainment) is not the same Sony that decided to not launch ICS (Sony Mobile), so don't mix these two things, because it's like saying "OMG that movie from Sony Pictures is horrible, I'll boycott Sony without buying any of their smartphones!". Lol.
Ah, and as last point, the called "YLOD" (Yellow Light Of Death) of PS3 that somebody said is not the same as the red lights of death of Xbox 360. The YLOD was the most of times just a warning from the console, and not a signal of fatal failure. My PS3 showed the YLOD once and after disconnecting and reconnecting it here it is working fine since 2006 when I bought it.
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Interesting statements from Sony:
Back in the early days of Android upgrades, the company decided not to provide the Android 2.2 upgrade to its Xperia X10 phone -- which launched three months after the 2.2 platform's release -- saying that it believed "the features included in the Android 2.1 phone" were "on par with, and in many cases better than, a vanilla installation of 2.2." Um, right.
Sounds familiar?
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I'm in on the boat. Quite frankly - if I had known Xplay to not get any update I would consider buying a phone that would or already has like G.Nexus. I thought since X.play will be on par in terms of software why the heck not when I'm getting the gamepad.
What sony did was -dare I say- fraudulent. They have advertised on false information - on the premise of which people have - TRUSTED - and bought their phone. That is a VERY legit reason to be pissed about.
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Precisely this. I suspect people wouldn't have been half as mad if they hadn't promised it beforehand. I certainly wouldn't have been because I simply wouldn't have bought it without some sort of commitment to at least one big update. It was the last and most important factor in why I took the plunge and bought the phone.
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First of all, if we are not getting ICS is not directly Sony's fault:
So I don't know why the hell you should boycott Sony, while they where trully wanting to launch the update (there you have the beta as a proof of it).
Second, the Sony that disabled the "Other OS" option on PS3 (Sony Computer Entertainment) is not the same Sony that decided to not launch ICS (Sony Mobile), so don't mix these two things, because it's like saying "OMG that movie from Sony Pictures is horrible, I'll boycott Sony without buying any of their smartphones!". Lol.
Ah, and as last point, the called "YLOD" (Yellow Light Of Death) of PS3 that somebody said is not the same as the red lights of death of Xbox 360. The YLOD was the most of times just a warning from the console, and not a signal of fatal failure. My PS3 showed the YLOD once and after disconnecting and reconnecting it here it is working fine since 2006 when I bought it.
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Your view is based on taking Sony on their word. I have a hard time trusting them on it for various reasons, least of which because it just sounds like a half arsed excuse to me.
As for the beta, the idea of a beta is to find problems and bugs and make efforts towards resolving them with further builds, when did that happen? we sure as hell didn't see or hear about that happening. It seems to me as though the Sony dev dept realised it wouldnt just be a simple bodge job with the Play and bailed out without any real effort at it. Again, this is my view... you're welcome to disagree.
Although I didn't make that point, and I do agree that they are ofcourse different things, the two incidents were handled by the same company and so the reputation carries and is relevent.
Onto the YLOD, good for you... nobody I know with a 1st gen PS3 was so lucky (myself included). Do a quick search on ebay and see how many PS3s are being sold as faulty with the YLOD issue.
I couldn't care less whether these issues are linked to Sony, Microsoft, Apple, Samsung, whoever... loyalty to any company is a mugs game. I'll take issue when any of them when they take decisions that I don't agree with.
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Interesting statements from Sony:
Back in the early days of Android upgrades, the company decided not to provide the Android 2.2 upgrade to its Xperia X10 phone -- which launched three months after the 2.2 platform's release -- saying that it believed "the features included in the Android 2.1 phone" were "on par with, and in many cases better than, a vanilla installation of 2.2." Um, right.
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Very familiar. Its actions like these that don't instil trust and reinforce peoples reluctance to trust them on their word.
I don't want to be taking sides. But there are still people who don't want to gamble with flashing custom ROMS and stick to 'stock-with-a-little-mod' ROMS. And by that I mean stock ROM with bloatware removed, launcher modified, and the like.
Just like me. For now I don't think I could gamble with playing around with my phone. Nonetheless, I think I'm pretty satisfied with the GB I have now. I admit I'm a lil disappointed with Sony pulling the plug on the Xperia PLAY. But hell, I'm contented with my GB. I don't think I can stand a day with my phone showing off epic UI but can't even properly play my games. After all, the PLAY was supposed to show off with games, not some fancy UI. End of story.
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For those of you that haven't heard, Android Gaming is taking on a new face... an actual CONSOLE, that's right folks, your very on console, here are the specs and the back story behind this amazing creation:
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OUYA began as a project concept like many, but has quickly set itself aside from any other project that may have been like it. In the course of 8 hours, OUYA has raised 1 million dollars as a new Kickstarter Project, and this is not even including the other 29 days left for funding (people must really wanna see this come to pass). Here is why its so great (SPEC CHECK):
- Tegra3 quad-core processor
- 1GB RAM
- 8GB of internal flash storage
- HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
- WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
- Bluetooth LE 4.0
- USB 2.0 (one)
- Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad
- Shipped Android 4.1
Pretty impressive right?Due to the unexpected increase in funding, we could very well see an increase in that internal flash storage, maybe even an expandable memory slot, who knows. But all of that Tegra 3 quad core, ice cream sandwich, 8 Gig goodness is not even the best part! This console has been rumored to hit a TV near you one day for a mere $99. That's right, you could Enjoy all your favorites, whether you're a shooter addict and have a taste for some alien slaying in N.O.V.A. 3, or maybe you like to feel the virtual wind in your hair in a nice race in Real Racing 2, and for you people that love to serve your country, shoot a couple of spies in Modern Combat 3, all for less than the price equivalent of 2 new Xbox 360 games. Not to mention, with Android's recent participation in Major League Gaming, this could set the bar on a new plateau. The (virtual gaming) world is your oyster, and these are just the hard core games, the sky is the limit with compatibility due to it running our favorite sweet treat OS version.
Want to check out a video from the developers themselves, check it out HERE
And for all you developers and hackers, this is your call to fame! the console is (and I quote from the people that made it) "hackable". read this quote from Mobile Magazine:
Perhaps the even bigger kicker is that there is an open SDK where they promise to provide digitally-delivered titles for free. I imagine the marketplace will start with a handful of freeware titles and free-to-try games, but it has to open up to paid games eventually.
So any and all (LEGITIMATE!!!! NO PIRACY IS CONDONED, but then again, that's Android's major loophole with the whole Open Source thing) hacking and modding is welcomed, say goodbye to JTAG-ing or jumping through hoops to make your console your own (you paid for it so you should be able to do any LEGITIMATE, cant stress that enough, modifications you want! get the message Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo?).
So, you could spend $400 on a Galaxy Tab, or even $200 for the Nexus 7 for HDMI output, OR you can pay $100 for a console that (due to the vigorous nature of the Android Community) will inevitably get full access to the Google Play Store for you to play your favorite games (and maybe apps, don't quote me on that though) on your 1080p HD screen. BUT I'm just the messenger droid, the real magic is happening behind the scenes and hopefully we can get some awesom updates! Stay on the lookout for this project, and keep on gaming!
Thanks for reading guys,
Wanna read MORE? check out these stories about OUYA
MOBILE MAG ARTICLE
GAMESPOT ARTICLE
KICKSTARTER ARTICLE
DROID GAMERS ARTICLE
Credits Go to ognimnella for typing this out (Im too Lazy and Busy to do it LOL, Keep in Mind, i did ask him )
Are you buying one? Comment below!
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Onlive Available on The Ouya at Launch
The Android console Ouya has signed a deal with cloud gaming service OnLive, meaning hundreds of games from over 80 publishers will be available when the console is eventually released next March.
UK boss of OnLive Bruce Grove said, "When OnLive first heard about OUYA, we were excited to see console gaming becoming more available and open. Like OUYA, we came to gaming with a new vision for making top-quality gaming accessible to more people, and we continue to look for ways to expand on that vision.
"OUYA is rethinking the console business, making waves by using standard technology to make gaming for your living room accessible, affordable and more innovative than ever. In OnLive's case, we pioneered a groundbreaking, cloud-based system that instantly delivers games to any device on demand."
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UPDATE II !!!
Square Enix has announced it will release Final Fantasy III as a launch title for the Ouya console in March 2013.
In a statement translated by Square Portal, the company promised that they will also be providing more content in the future.
Final Fantasy III originally released on the NES back in 1990 and became the first Final Fantasy title to sell over a million copies, but has since had a 2006 remake for the DS. It seems this is the version Ouya owners will be getting as this was ported for Android devices last month, which is the operating system that the upcoming console will use
I love the ethos behind it
seriously, i don't see future for this. now every android-based device can run a lot of games, and more are coming. and stationary consoles like xbox and ps have much more to offer, but it comes with higher price, but it's a trade-off. Good luck though!!
They are up over $3M now, so I'm pretty sure they'll be able to give this a go. At $99, I think they have a shot for a lot of people who don't want to slap $200-300 down for a console (which appear to be moving to a digital download/streaming model anyway).
If they advertise well people buy them as a "first console" for their kids, they should sell enough to get into the market.
I'm interested in seeing how this project plays out.
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They are up over $3M now, so I'm pretty sure they'll be able to give this a go. At $99, I think they have a shot for a lot of people who don't want to slap $200-300 down for a console (which appear to be moving to a digital download/streaming model anyway).
If they advertise well people buy them as a "first console" for their kids, they should sell enough to get into the market.
I'm interested in seeing how this project plays out.
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basically, it's going be a a small computer based off a tablet operating system
looks interesting and if 99$ is the price, I think it will garner a lot of attention/interest... perhaps something that can compete against the apple tv?
Personally i think its going to be a succes, the fact that it is based of Android allows a VAST amount of customizations, Developers might even be able to make custom roms for it, it just opens up a whole bunch of possibilities for android and the gaming community
I think this is a fantastic idea! and I just pre-ordered mine for $99. Stoked to see where this goes!
Although, this does need the ability to have an external HDD, 8GB just ain't gonna cut it for AAA games, or more than 5 games on it at a time.
There is a nice review of this idea in Phandriud, I believe. With a read if you are excited for this.
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Personally i think its going to be a succes, the fact that it is based of Android allows a VAST amount of customizations, Developers might even be able to make custom roms for it, it just opens up a whole bunch of possibilities for android and the gaming community
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With ≈25,000 consoles already sold by the second day and dev communities like XDA, I think this is already on its way to be a success. Once more people understand it's not all about flashy graphics, but more about free-to-play and tinkering with your home console, I think even more people will jump on board. On top of that, at $99 it's got high end tablet specs. Which will cost you 5x times as much. If this hits retail stores lots of parents and grandparents will be looking at this as gifts for the holidays.
I've pledged my console's worth and can't wait to get my hands on it.
I'm very interested in it. Now I just need to come up with $100...
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I'm very interested in it. Now I just need to come up with $100...
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Same here, i want to preorder one but i got no Money but if it does find its way to canada i will definitly buy one
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I'm very interested in it. Now I just need to come up with $100...
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Same here, i want to preorder one but i got no Money but if it does find its way to canada i will definitly buy one
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They don't charge you until August 9th.
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They don't charge you until August 9th.
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Yeah but I want to make sure I will have the $$
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I want one
As someone who has spend several hundred dollars building MAME/Arcade cabinets to get my old school nerd fix in this looks like something I would purchase. Granted I already have some original xbox's that are already loaded with emulators connected to my televisions and 2 Apple TV units in my house I can see this as being a device to combine the two.
I hope this project is successful and if they are available the next time I have an extra 100 bucks to blow I will likely get one.
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As someone who has spend several hundred dollars building MAME/Arcade cabinets to get my old school nerd fix in this looks like something I would purchase. Granted I already have some original xbox's that are already loaded with emulators connected to my televisions and 2 Apple TV units in my house I can see this as being a device to combine the two.
I hope this project is successful and if they are available the next time I have an extra 100 bucks to blow I will likely get one.
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This is why I've decided to go ahead and back the project. Even if it flops, those two things alone will make it worth the paltry $100.
very interesting....they've gotten over $4 million now....also interesting is the different pledge packages they have (up to $10,000)
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very interesting....they've gotten over $4 million now....also interesting is the different pledge packages they have (up to $10,000)
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I'll have two please.
If it all goes ahead as planned, they will be looking at releasing an updated version every 2 years i think. They cant go 10 years surely??
I ran across this the other day on kickstarter and was pumped, my wife was just shaking her head
I am excited to see where this goes especially since they were given the extra cash for development.
The ideas and concepts this is behind are great: an affordable console (not meant to compete with other consoles such as the PS3 or 360), development for it is free, and the creators urge others to root it as they wish! Great platform for indie devs, truly.
Though, I do see a lot problems here. One of them being the hardware for the machine, but it isn't with the hardware itself: it's with the progress of android hardware in general. At the rate we're going now, the Ouya will be too outdated to play games for more powerful hardware in a relatively short amount of time.
Another issue is with, again, not the machine, but with developers. Too many indie developers are notorious for pumping out lazily-made games and branding them as retro or just making no attempt at making quality games for a quick buck. And then you have free-to-play MMOs, but I'm sure you know where I'm going with that. To put it simply, the Ouya will be plagued with quite the amount of shovelware games, which won't bode well for its sale.
I think I had a few other points to make, but I can't remember them now, LOL.
Looking forward to seeing how this fares.
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