does anyone own both or have try both? I was wondering is 7.7 a lot better than 7 plus. I cant decide which one to get, and just a fyi i was talking about the wifi version.
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SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB 7+ vs SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB 7.7
Well Specs you should know... but here is the difference of them:
SPECS SGT 7.7
Body Dimensions 196.7 x 133 x 7.9 mm
Weight 340 g
Display Type Super AMOLED Plus capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 800 x 1280 pixels, 7.7 inches (~196 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Features OS Android OS, v3.2 (Honeycomb)
Chipset Exynos
CPU Dual-core 1.4 GHz Cortex-A9
GPU Mali-400MP
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 5100mAh
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SPECS SGT 7+
Body Dimensions 193.7 x 122.4 x 9.9 mm
Weight 345 g
Display Type PLS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 600 x 1024 pixels, 7.0 inches (~170 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Features OS Android OS, v3.2 (Honeycomb)
Chipset Exynos 4210
CPU Dual-core 1.2 GHz
GPU Mali-400MP
Battery Standard battery, Li-Po 4000mAh
Here is a Video:
Its in German Language but he says maybe 10 times "7.7 got better DISPLAY" and as u can see the density of the displays... 7.7 is unbeatable!
Quality of 7.7 is much higher than 7+ with plastic cover..
If you are not a tech freak like me then you can sure buy the 7+ tab without doubt it will does your job too
5imon L said:
does anyone own both or have try both? I was wondering is 7.7 a lot better than 7 plus. I cant decide which one to get, and just a fyi i was talking about the wifi version.
thanks
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my understanding is,
7.0 uses Qualcomm's chipset, 7.7 use E4210, I think the performance of E4210 is better than Qualcomm's.
I have a 7.7 and I feel the experience is also better than P7510 (tab 10.1).
So I recommend the 7.7
juliussf said:
my understanding is,
7.0 uses Qualcomm's chipset, 7.7 use E4210, I think the performance of E4210 is better than Qualcomm's.
I have a 7.7 and I feel the experience is also better than P7510 (tab 10.1).
So I recommend the 7.7
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7+ is using same 7.7 cpu e4210 ,samsung just make it slower for 7+ for cheaper level,so that make 7.7 more " high class "
I think it is easier to just compare screen as other specs are almost identical.
If you want AMOLED+ go 7.7
If not go 7.0+
I just played around with the 7+ at Fry's.
There's really no comparison. The 7.7's screen puts the 7+ to shame.
I have both and the 7.7 is in a totally different league. The screen difference is enough for me to never use the 7plus. Many apps work much better on the 7.7 like Photoshop or BBC news app, the build is much better on the 7.7, better battery, lighter. Easy decision in my opinion..
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just pulled the trigger yesterday, seems like i made the right choice
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-aE6SZkdHw
Just check out the difference in color rendering and luminosity between the two.
And the quality gain gets even wider with viewing angles according to PLS technology sheets I've been reading.
This seriously makes me condiser the gtab again over the transformer now.
Well Samsung did state that PLS was the evolution of IPS. So... I'm assuming it was supposed to better from the start. I don't know if it truly is. I will be waiting for Anandtech's review to find out.
I bet Samsung is dying to put Amoled on on these new tabs, but I doubt it. I would only buy it if it was Super Amoled Plus (Pentile Matrix...), But I doubt it. Seems like it would be a little expensive. I do imagine however, that Sammy's made some sort of cheaper display that looks just as nice.
Well Samsung have shown a 7" SuperAMOLED screen intended for tablets
My guess is that the next Galaxy Tab "7" will have SuperAMOLED (hopefully plus) and it will probably have the Exynos SoC
engadget.com/2010/11/10/samsung-7-inch-super-amoled-panel-showcased-on-next-gen-galaxy/
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Well Samsung have shown a 7" SuperAMOLED screen intended for tablets
My guess is that the next Galaxy Tab "7" will have SuperAMOLED (hopefully plus) and it will probably have the Exynos SoC
engadget.com/2010/11/10/samsung-7-inch-super-amoled-panel-showcased-on-next-gen-galaxy/
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Interesting, but I doubt the 10.1 will be SUPER AMOLED because it's only $500.
It won't. They already said it will be PLS.
Interesting... There was a notion ink adam a few inches away
Hey there,
These are the leaked specs of galaxy Q..the next smart phone in the galaxy series!
If you think this is posted into the wrong place..please be free to more it?
Few of the leaked specifications of Samsung Galaxy Q are:
Dimensions: 4.8 x 2.72 x 0.37
Weight: 3.8 ounces
Display: 3 inch super AMOLED display with 720 x 480 resolution
Camera: 8 MP with LED flash
1.3 MP front facing
Processor: 1GHz Hummingbird
QWERTY keyboard with Touchpad
Android 2.2
16 GB storage
2.5G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) 850 / 900 / 2100 Mhz
3G (HSDPA 7.2 Mbps, HSUPA 5.76 Mbps) 900 /1900 / 2100 Mhz
1500 mAh battery with up to 7.5 hours of run time
As far as features are concerned, I guess they are good. Features like Android 2.2, 1GHz Hummingbrid processor, 16 GB storage and few more are same as Samsung Galaxy S but Samusng Galaxy Q has improved in Camera quality but degraded in display ( 3 inch ). Yet nothing more is revealed. Let’s wait for more features, images, price and launch date.
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METRIC:
Dimensions: 12.2cm x 6.91cm x 0.94cm
Weight: 107.7g
Galaxy S I9000 Reference values:
Dimensions: 122.4 mm (4.82 in) x 64.2 mm (2.53 in) x 9.9–14 mm (0.39–0.55 in)
Weight: 119 g / 4.2 ounces
3" super amoled 720x480 is going to pretty sharp. Looks thin too where many 3" phones tend to be thick (like the galaxy 'family' models, they are 12mm where this is closer to 9 like the gs2).
I wonder if this is why we're seeing crazy deals on the samsung galaxy 'family' series (gio, ace, mini, fit, the gio was $70 here mtm at zellers). They are powered by 600-800 MHz qualcomm, have 320x240 tft screens and only 2GB internal memory. This 'galaxy q' with 720x480 samoled, 1 ghz hummingbird and 16GB (basically an sgs hit with a shrink ray) is a huge upgrade in this form factor no wonder they want to clear out old stock.
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3" super amoled 720x480 is going to pretty sharp. Looks thin too where many 3" phones tend to be thick (like the galaxy 'family' models, they are 12mm where this is closer to 9 like the gs2).
I wonder if this is why we're seeing crazy deals on the samsung galaxy 'family' series (gio, ace, mini, fit, the gio was $70 here mtm at zellers). They are powered by 600-800 MHz qualcomm, have 320x240 tft screens and only 2GB internal memory. This 'galaxy q' with 720x480 samoled, 1 ghz hummingbird and 16GB (basically an sgs hit with a shrink ray) is a huge upgrade in this form factor no wonder they want to clear out old stock.
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Nah screw that, I'm sick of tinier font resolution on my phone. Almost already about to throw my Atrix and it's whack *ss Qhd out the window!
Android needs a way to make icons/text bigger on ICS at the earliest before we all get stuck with phones that we have to read our text messages that look like this.
And no making the density larger on build.prop is too ghetto to be a realistic fix...
Hey guys
I'm thinking to buy the 7" Tab Plus or the 7.7" one(when they will appear ) and I was wondering if any of you have any experience with PLS LCD and Super Amoled Plus displays.
Which one is better,in terms of quality,power usage,etc
I googled for that but it didn't help much,and i'd prefer to hear from someone who saw in real life both displays
As we know both are made bu samsungand both are the best in market (even better than the ipad IPS Screen ) but Pls screen has more natural colours like what we see with our eye in real world . Amoled colours are so vivid like animation movies ,etc but it is very good in power saving and better in black color . Finally it depends on your taste and how you prefere to see colors and you should see both side by side to decide but personally I hated my friends galaxy s2 after I compared it to my galaxy tab 10.1
advice : (buy galaxy tab 7.7 higher resolution , better processor ,thinner and easier to handle )
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thanks for your answer
seems it will be a tough choice,and i will have to wait till both will be on stores so i can compare myself although the 7.7 price is kinda much..around 700 euros
I like the natural colours so i guess i will go with 7 plus
Anyway,in the meantime if someone else has other opinions pls share
I would say Super AMOLED Plus hands down. It's true that the AMOLED displays portray images more vivid and with very deep contrast, but I wouldn't say that the colors are unnatural, in fact I find it to be a major advantage of the 7.7, it will make movies that much better. The Super AMOLED Plus displays also don't have a backlight so they are much thinner and use less power. This is technology much more advanced than the panels in today's TVs. The Super PLS displays Samsung makes (what the 7.0 Plus has) are also very good, some say better than the IPS displays in tablets, but it's still an LCD, not quite as good as the Super AMOLED Plus in my opinion.
Also do not forget that the 7.7 display is higher resolution at 1280 x 800, the 7.0 Plus is 1024 x 600, and in my opinion it will make a big difference especially in Honeycomb. But don't let any of us persuade you in your decision, if you can, go look at them side by side in person and decide for yourself. We don't know what the 7.7 will cost yet, but I imagine the 7.0 Plus will be cheaper so if that is an important factor for you then it wouldn't be unwise to consider it.
As far as other specs go, the 7.7 is a bit thinner and lighter and has a bigger battery, a slightly faster processor, and a 64GB option.
Ok,thank you both for answer
Well yeah the price is an important factor..the 7 plus will cost 300 euros and the 7.7 will cost almost 700 euros so I will stick with the 7 plus for now
Here is a video which shows both side by side if someone else is interested to see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHOxPJBgieg
My first conclusion is that the super amoled looks brighter and colours are different than the ips pls one,but they ask too much..i will get it in a year or so when it will be half of price
UPDATE: I had to take the videos down for the moment at Samsung's request. There is information that they are about to change some design features and specs, but I don't know when and what exactly. I'm sorry for the situation, but I assure you I'll post them back as soon as I get word of it! Thank you for your interest and patience
I've had the chance to play around with the Note 10.1, that's the tablet with the S Pen. The reason they've delayed the release is that they've changed it dramatically since the preview at the MWC. It now has a 1.4GHz quadcore processor (I think it's the Exynos on the SIII), a 5 MP camera (instead of the 3.15) and the back got a hyperglazed finish just as the SIII. I've had the pebble blue one and I'm not sure if there is a marble white one.
The S Pen is much bigger than the Note 5.3 (looks EXACTLY the same), but smaller than the model shown at the MWC and it now fits inside a vertical hole in the lower left side. An amazing software feature is the Photoshop Touch app which is brilliant (as you may see in my video).
Here are my videos:
Short hands on presentation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eueOIjW5cIo
S Pen and Photoshop Touch review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0b0SRT_D74
It's an astonishing device, clearly stepping way higher in the high end line and it works like a charm. If you have questions feel free to ask, but unfortunately I no longer have it to do extra demos.
Which is the resolution? Still stuck at that 1280x800??
Yes, but I had no problem with it. At 150 ppi it's quite ok in my opinion.
If the resolution will be the same it will not compete with the ipad and will not sell well and i will not buy it either.
Thanks for the videos! This is a first day purchase for me. Any news on the release date?
Even 1920x1080 are too low for a 10.1. To compete with ipad visual quality they can barely put this resolution into a 8.9, but for a 10.1... no way it's too low.
Omg, Samsung is fond of low ppi especially if fullRGB, yes it's cheaper to build but OMG!
Unfortunately I have no such info, but given the fact that *I* (not some hotshot official) had access to one, it can't be far.
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Even 1920x1080 are too low for a 10.1. To compete with ipad visual quality they can barely put this resolution into a 8.9, but for a 10.1... no way it's too low.
Omg, Samsung is fond of low ppi especially if fullRGB, yes it's cheaper to build but OMG!
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BS.
1920x1080 is normal-sized monitor HD resolution, to say it's too low for a 10.1" screen is beyond ridiculous.
iPhone's "Retina" resolution is completely worthless on a useless 3.5", iPad's "Retina" display is overkill. The higher the resolution the better... up to a point.
Beyond that you are just paying a weight and power consumption (and also brightness in the case of the Ipad) penalty without getting your worth (the higher the resolutions the less your eye is able to see the difference).
Full HD resolution on a 10.1" would be ideal.
P.S. "Samsung is fond of low ppi"??
The Galaxy Tab 10.1's PPI is over 10% higher than the iPad2's.
Great. Thanks for the videos. I really look forward to a launch. Hopefully very soon. I aim for this to be my note-taken tool at work. I hope it will live up to that and be usefull. (Not hand click when using the pen etc.).
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BS.
1920x1080 is normal-sized monitor HD resolution, to say it's too low for a 10.1" screen is beyond ridiculous.
iPhone's "Retina" resolution is completely worthless on a useless 3.5", iPad's "Retina" display is overkill. The higher the resolution the better... up to a point.
Beyond that you are just paying a weight and power consumption (and also brightness in the case of the Ipad) penalty without getting your worth (the higher the resolutions the less your eye is able to see the difference).
Full HD resolution on a 10.1" would be ideal.
P.S. "Samsung is fond of low ppi"??
The Galaxy Tab 10.1's PPI is over 10% higher than the iPad2's.
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Normal sized monitor is not meant to be used as close as a tablet.
The closer a device is used the higher the ppi should be. For a smartphone pixels start beeing unnoticeable from 320-330ppi. Actually the best job is made by lg with 1280x720 on a 4.3" and 342ppi, higher than apple.
The tablet is meant to be used less close than a phone, so the ppi can be lower, around 250... the value adopted by apple in ipad3.
So for an optimal view the ppi has to be higher. 1280x800 on a 10.1 does mean a too low ppi (maybe not for a monitor, but surely for a tablet).
And yes, I confirm that samsung is fond of low ppi devices. You tell me the higest ppi of a fullRGB display of a Samsung device. FullRGB only, because the pentile matrix trash doesn't worth any talk, you know that at ppi being equal the visual quality of a pentile is much lower due to less subpixels, so i.e. the actual ppi of a 300ppi samoled hd is around 250, but this is something already well known.
Do you have any information about battery life?
i'm thinking about buying a tablet .. and i was comparing between this one and the galaxy tab 2 10.1 .. i'm going to buy it for college use .. to be honest .. i haven't had any tablet before .. it's my first .. and i want recommendations .. which one should i buy .. galaxy note 10.1 or tab 10.1 or go for an ipad 3 ?
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i'm thinking about buying a tablet .. and i was comparing between this one and the galaxy tab 2 10.1 .. i'm going to buy it for college use .. to be honest .. i haven't had any tablet before .. it's my first .. and i want recommendations .. which one should i buy .. galaxy note 10.1 or tab 10.1 or go for an ipad 3 ?
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The tab 2 10.1 is painfully slow. It's disappointing because it could have been a much better option if they had just put in a better processor (I know the tablet is supposed to be entry level, but the year-old exynos from the s2 would have been better). I'm not a huge gamer, but I do want a tablet that runs without much lag out of the box. I also want to play HD video files without frame skipping and the tab 2 10.1 isn't very good for this either.
As far as the other 2, it depends on you. The new ipad is nice. It's fast and has a fantastic display. My brother in law has one and absolutely loves it.
Personally, I usually gravitate towards android (and samsung). The note 10.1 doesn't have the PPI of the ipad, but it can fully display 720p hd video which is good enough for me. The screen is also a little bigger (than the ipad). Memory expansion is nice through microsd and the US version should have the IR blaster to use as a universal remote. The potential of using the s-pen for note taking and drawing is also a big plus for me. The quad core processor should also be able to handle just about whatever you throw at it (at least for a couple of years).
I wish the resolution was higher. I hate the display on my Tab 10.1, there's a distinct lack of clarity.
Probably gonna exchange my tab10.1 for the Note10.1
Hope it will launch soon, any rumours on that subject?
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That ppi is still ridiculous. Either they increase it till around 250, or sammy will get only low end customers.
But since they still use that crappy ppi on high end smartphones, I guess they are not able to increase the ppi in a tablet.
How close do you hold a tablet? How far do you sit from a monitor? For me it's only a few inches difference in usage? i sit approx arms length away from my monitors and hold my tablet only a few inches closer than that (arms slightly bent)
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The tab 2 10.1 is painfully slow. It's disappointing because it could have been a much better option if they had just put in a better processor (I know the tablet is supposed to be entry level, but the year-old exynos from the s2 would have been better). I'm not a huge gamer, but I do want a tablet that runs without much lag out of the box. I also want to play HD video files without frame skipping and the tab 2 10.1 isn't very good for this either.
As far as the other 2, it depends on you. The new ipad is nice. It's fast and has a fantastic display. My brother in law has one and absolutely loves it.
Personally, I usually gravitate towards android (and samsung). The note 10.1 doesn't have the PPI of the ipad, but it can fully display 720p hd video which is good enough for me. The screen is also a little bigger (than the ipad). Memory expansion is nice through microsd and the US version should have the IR blaster to use as a universal remote. The potential of using the s-pen for note taking and drawing is also a big plus for me. The quad core processor should also be able to handle just about whatever you throw at it (at least for a couple of years).
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well then the tab 2 10.1 is out of the race .. now the iPad 3 And The Note 10.1 .. so your recommendation is to have the note 10.1 right?
That's what I'm going with, but i don't think there's really a wrong choice
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I'm amused by all the comments linking the tablet to the low end of the market simply due to the low ppi. Clearly, everyone has different requirements out of a device. By putting a stylus on a 10" tablet, Samsung attained my personal "Shut up and take my money!" threshold. **** PPI, do you know how incredibly, mind blowingly useful a stylus is? As soon as I can figure out where to buy this thing, I'm buying it. I've been begging for a full sized tablet with a stylus ever since the original Note came out. This is my actual dream come true.
I currently Have the GS4, but have been looking at videos of the Note 3 and have found a new love. I have never toyed around with or entertained the idea of a Note device before. Should I make the jump to the Note 3?
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I currently Have the GS4, but have been looking at videos of the Note 3 and have found a new love. I have never toyed around with or entertained the idea of a Note device before. Should I make the jump to the Note 3?
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It's going to be faster with the additional S-Pen features.
If you can handle the size go for it - that's the only debatable thing if money is not an issue.
make the jump. i sold my s4 weeks ago for note 3. i think the note 2 is just as fast as s4. Note 3 will be so much better then s4. Size could be your only issue
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make the jump. i sold my s4 weeks ago for note 3. i think the note 2 is just as fast as s4. Note 3 will be so much better then s4. Size could be your only issue
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Note 2 is def not as fast as gs4....that said the n3 will be that much faster then the s4.im keeping my n2 and s4 as well as getting n3...should be interesting comparing them all hands on
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You know the differences are all easy to see. Just buy what fits your budget, and realize the Note 3 is better in every way, except if it's too big for your needs. I don't know of many people who even care about the size, in fact believe it's a benefit because of the larger screen.
Previously covered by many websites, it has the following improvements over the Galaxy S4:
Instead of 16-bit 48kHz sound, it has 24-bit 192kHz HD hardware. Thus superior sound playback and recording.
Instead of just 1080p video recording (1920x1080), it has 4K HD video recording (3,840 x 2,160)
Instead of just 1.9GHz quad core and Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 chipset, it has Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chipset w/ 2.3GHz quad-core
Instead of Adreno 320 graphics chipset, it has Adreno 330 for faster graphics and other features improvements.
There is the addition of the S Pen and ability to detect pen pressure on the screen, which the S4 lacks.
Instead of the 5" screen 1920x1080 screen, it has a 5.7" 1920x1080 screen. There is loss of pixels per inch, in trade off for larger screen.
Instead of plastic body, it has metal bezel and faux leather backing "premium" style.
Instead of Android 4.2 stock, it has Android 4.3.
Instead of USB2 interface, is has USB3 for faster data transfer with PC and faster charging ability.
It should have other improvements, like faster internal storage, and perhaps a change in the Super AMOLED display, which might compensate for the loss of pixels per inch. The S4 has diamond pentile pixel layout, some people hope the Note 3 has something else which results in clearer display or more subpixels (but nobody knows yet, as these specifications have not yet been released)
Pretty much you are getting a much better device for your money with the Note 3. It has no downsides, unless you don't want the larger screen/device size.