Heard bad things about the Tegra 2 devices... - Eee Pad Transformer General

My friend recently got a Galaxy Tab 8.9 which is also Tegra 2 powered like the Transformer. I witnessed a lot of slowdown and frequent crashes which require rebooting of the device. He was contemplating on having it exchanged for another unit but he blames the Tegra 2 inside.
Now I have not read a lot about the Tegra 2 SoC but can his claim be true? Or maybe that was just the fault of the stock ROM and kernel? Was stock HC on the Transformer that bad? I saw the many ROMs for this device and that was one factor in me wanting to get it in the next 2 months (hoping to find a good deal on ebay)...
I was thinking that a tweaked out Transformer could be better than the average Tegra 2 device (since it has a lot of expandable memory + keyboard dock + USB slots). Because if a tweaked Transformer still could not deal with the "problems" of Tegra 2, I might just get another dual-core tablet that isnt on Tegra (Galaxy Tab 7.0+ or 7.7) or I might wait until the Transformer Prime gets its stuff together...

raylgo said:
My friend recently got a Galaxy Tab 8.9 which is also Tegra 2 powered like the Transformer. I witnessed a lot of slowdown and frequent crashes which require rebooting of the device. He was contemplating on having it exchanged for another unit but he blames the Tegra 2 inside.
Now I have not read a lot about the Tegra 2 SoC but can his claim be true? Or maybe that was just the fault of the stock ROM and kernel? Was stock HC on the Transformer that bad? I saw the many ROMs for this device and that was one factor in me wanting to get it in the next 2 months (hoping to find a good deal on ebay)...
I was thinking that a tweaked out Transformer could be better than the average Tegra 2 device (since it has a lot of expandable memory + keyboard dock + USB slots). Because if a tweaked Transformer still could not deal with the "problems" of Tegra 2, I might just get another dual-core tablet that isnt on Tegra (Galaxy Tab 7.0+ or 7.7) or I might wait until the Transformer Prime gets its stuff together...
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for the TF101 aka transformer first gen, i do get reboots but that's on a rare occassion, if its often it could be due to heat issues, bad chip, etc...but so far the Tf101 is pretty rock solid if you ask me

I NEVER had a reboot issue with my tablet..i dont know wat been going on for it to be happening to people.. also im on a custom Rom by the way.. I never use stock builds..
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I NEVER had a reboot issue with my tablet..i dont know wat been going on for it to help to people.. also im on a custom Rom by the way.. I never use stock builds..
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i'm on stock HC 3.2 with no issues other than very rare reboots..like 1 in 50 or so...extremely rare.

I get reboots but i blame HC
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No Major Problems
I've had my TF for months now and I generally run Revolver
With that I've had no problems with reboots except in the case of overclocking and intensive gaming
Other than in those instances using N64oid playing Starfox, I have not had major reboot issues and would highly suggest keeping an eye for deals on this device

On stock. Absolutely no rebooted or crashes.

Tell him to stop pressing the power menu, or to get the tf101.

The only time I get softboots or sleep of death is if I oc too high. Other then that, this tablet is rock solid.
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the ONLY time I got a reboot was when I was O/C'd to the max and trying to play a specific game that doesnt seem to be tailored to our device in the first place. lol other than that, my tf is buttah. but to be fair the tf is a better device than the gtab. Im not sure if the samsuck made a better device from the original 7' to the newer 8.9 ones though....somehow i doubt it. Then again I am a little biased

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the ONLY time I got a reboot was when I was O/C'd to the max and trying to play a specific game that doesnt seem to be tailored to our device in the first place. lol other than that, my tf is buttah. but to be fair the tf is a better device than the gtab. Im not sure if the samsuck made a better device from the original 7' to the newer 8.9 ones though....somehow i doubt it. Then again I am a little biased
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I agree with this assessment. Samsung has always managed to muck up Android in some fashion. At least they can make processors...

I witnessed a lot of slowdown and frequent crashes which require rebooting of the device. He was contemplating on having it exchanged for another unit but he blames the Tegra 2 inside.
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It's really naive for him to blame this on Tegra 2 with no real compelling proof. Might as well blame it because it runs off of battery power too.
I'm running on stock and I've never had a crash or slowdown. Never.

Also running stock on 3.2 the ONLY reboot ive ever had was with a certain app, which is most likely the case with your friend also

I've had my transformer from day one. I've used Prime and Revolver and only had reboots when overclocked to the max.
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On stock, the only reboots that I've had have been because I didn't reboot for a week or two or so.
As far as the Tegra 2 being the devices problem, I highly doubt it. It just seems like bad software on Samsung's part, or maybe a rogue app.
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Sounds much more like a rogue app, than anything. Quiet a few people seem to like Samsung's touchwiz interface, but then again, my sister had an OG Galaxy S phone that was a total turd.
To blame a processor sounds more like a fanboy of some sorts. There's a thousand things inside these tabs that could cause slow downs and crashes hardware wise.

Mine hasn't done anything weird since I've rooted. I'm also very lucky to run @1.6 Ghz flawlessly

I've had slowdowns,a few crashes and reboots but only if I fill up the device with boatloads of apps
I generally blame Honeycomb being bad.
Tegra 2's real fault lies with its video decoding on HD videos

Well I don't think I have ever had a reboot in my 4 months ownership of the transformer so far.
I do get little sluggish slow response sometimes but I think that has to do with honeycomb rather than tegra 2. Honeycomb is a fantastic OS but it does suffer from occasional slowdowns sometimes. Something ICS will iron out I'm sure.
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I never had any problems before I rooted it and started overclocking to stupid levels. I haven't had any problems since I stopped overclocking it past 1600 though. (Problems as in rebooting, my Netflix seems to be ****ty though, when I have time, I'm gonna change everything and perhaps flash Revolver instead, although to be honest, I'd rather get ICS or CM9 when it comes..)

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I just bought a transformer and I was wondering......

Well I just bought an Asus transformer at best buy but my question was if it was really worth it or should I waited for the prime?
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Look at this way.
Original Asus Transformer - Entry Level with more features then most other tablets
Asus Transformer Prime - High Spec Level - More powerful, plays 1080p, slimmer, better looking.
Then decide what you want to do with it and if the advantages of the Prime are worth the extra cost.
I own the original Transformer and it does everything I need it for so I'm happy to wait a few months after the release of the Prime before I consider changing.
But if money is no object and you can wait another month then I recommend you wait for the Prime.
Money is definately a factor and as for the features on the prime the only thing I was very amazed by was the speed with its quad core Tegra 3 thingy
If I had the money before buying the transformer I would definatley wait but I only had 400 dollars and I really needed a tablet or laptop because I recently sold my netbook which was freaking slow (that's why I sold it)
So in conclusion I might wait a few months maybe 5 months to upgrade and right now I'm looking for a cheap docking station because freaking best buy still has them at 150 dollars
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Malandro2011 said:
Look at this way.
Original Asus Transformer - Entry Level with more features then most other tablets
Asus Transformer Prime - High Spec Level - More powerful, plays 1080p, slimmer, better looking.
Then decide what you want to do with it and if the advantages of the Prime are worth the extra cost.
I own the original Transformer and it does everything I need it for so I'm happy to wait a few months after the release of the Prime before I consider changing.
But if money is no object and you can wait another month then I recommend you wait for the Prime.
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It's not really an extra cost !! the Prime costs 32GB for $500 and 64GB for $600 !! Same as the old one except that there's no 16GB !!
I would've chosen the Prime... I bought my Transformer 5 Months ago and I feel like It's already outdated !! the new one is so much better !!
The thing is... I haven't had one bit of lag on my Transformer. And its not even OCd, its stock. Its perfectly fast.
And its going to be getting ICS, and the update after that too probably!
Also, you can already find reports of the speed of Tegra 3 being massively disapointing, not as fast as a quadcore should be. Whereas the transformer is faster than it should be in my opinion. Also, apart from being slimmer and lighter, the keyboard has the same layout, not inproved in my book, annoying!
I will be waiting for the next one anyway!
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habylab said:
The thing is... I haven't had one bit of lag on my Transformer. And its not even OCd, its stock. Its perfectly fast.
And its going to be getting ICS, and the update after that too probably!
Also, you can already find reports of the speed of Tegra 3 being massively disapointing, not as fast as a quadcore should be.
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If I recall, same thing happened with Tegra 2. "Software not optimized" and so on.
Regardless of that, I agree with post #2, it depends on your "level" desired.
It's like buying a Nexus S or a Galaxy NX, or maybe from SGSII and Galaxy NX
If you have more than enough with the TF101 16GB then you chose correctly (I'm on the same situation)
I hate to bring this up but perfect analogy is iPhone 4 vs 4S in my opinion.
My wife got me the transformer 101 for xmas. I based my decision on the fact that most reviewers found that the tegra 3 was somewhat disappointing with most saying it was not always even noticeable as far as speed was concerned. the only lag i notice on it is due to honeycomb and not the tablet's hardware. The custom roms seemed to have improved that to an extent. I have an almost fully working version of ICS on my g2 and judging based on that version I would say that ICS will really improve the lag issues and general experience of it. Of course ICS on the prime will probably really improve it as well but Im happy with my transformer it does everything pretty well and i am rarely frustrated with it.
osho741 said:
My wife got me the transformer 101 for xmas. I based my decision on the fact that most reviewers found that the tegra 3 was somewhat disappointing with most saying it was not always even noticeable as far as speed was concerned. the only lag i notice on it is due to honeycomb and not the tablet's hardware. The custom roms seemed to have improved that to an extent. I have an almost fully working version of ICS on my g2 and judging based on that version I would say that ICS will really improve the lag issues and general experience of it. Of course ICS on the prime will probably really improve it as well but Im happy with my transformer it does everything pretty well and i am rarely frustrated with it.
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The right choice!
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The Transformer 1 does everything that I need it to do, including providing the best screen on any tablet/laptop right now (aside from the expensive IPS Thinkpad Tablet).
I got mine with keyboard for $350 CDN. The Prime with keyboard, even if available, will be more than double that amount. I'd rather spend the extra $350 on necessities.
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most reviewers found that the tegra 3 was somewhat disappointing with most saying it was not always even noticeable as far as speed was concerned.
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I bet that it will be quite awhile before Android takes full advantage of quad-cores. By then, we will have much faster tablets anyway. For those who have the money, the Prime is a great upgrade, but for most of us, we don't need 4 cores or the extra GPU power. I don't play intense games on my tablet. I find controlling the touch interface too much of a hassle.
yeah this was a quote from the review on the verge from Joanna Stern on the tegra 3 and its use on the transformer
GENERAL OS, EVERYDAY PERFORMANCE
Going into this review my biggest question was does Android and the general software experience benefit at all from the extra cores and power? I soon learned that the answer to that isn’t that cut and dry. While Nvidia says the general UI and OS should feel faster, I have only found that to be the case some of the time. While you can see in the video that swipes across homescreens are swifter, the waiting that frequently occurs when opening menus or toggling between apps on Honeycomb tablets isn’t completely gone. I also didn’t notice much of a difference when it came to multitasking — it didn’t have a problem running multiple apps, but I didn’t notice a speed increase between the Prime and the original Transformer under heavy loads.
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Also battery life was shorter
So a big update on the battery life. On our standard test with brightness set at 65 percent and power saving mode switched on, the tablet lasted six hours and five minutes — exactly an hour longer than when it was set to normal mode. Still, that's an hour shorter than the original Transformer
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As you can see i think it is generally an OS related problem right now than anything else. All that being said I couldn't justify the 200 dollars more for it.
The Prime is more elegant and definitely more powerful. But it is not a huge step and the Transformer 1 will get all Ice cream sandwich benefits also (probably including some speed/ smoothness improvements).
I find it a bit disappointing that there is no 16GB Prime for a lower Price but I will stick to my TF101 anyway (of course I'd switch to the Prime if someone gave it to me for free), but I'll rather wait for the next generation with higher resolutions and maybe more RAM (or Android Jellybean...)
Thanks for sharing. Missed that part, honestly.
For anyone else interested, quoted from: Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime review By Joanna Stern on December 1, 2011 01:00 am
Thanks guys you made my day I was starting to feel bad but all those feelings are gone now:-D
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If you want a rooted tablet, then the PRIME is not for you..bootloader is locked, apparently. So, despite hardware limitations, I am glad to have chosen the TF101 over the prime.
Hey everyone, I heard that the transformer prime is supposed to have way more battery life, like 3hrs more, than the tf101. Is this true? Because that would be the only reason whether or not I would buy it??? Someone tell me the truth.
I just got a TF101 as well and learning today that the Prime's booloader is locked made me really happy I didn't fork out the extra cash.
My TF101 was so easy to root I couldn't believe it - the only device I've rooted before is my HTC Desire Z which was a lot more hazzle.
Very happy with my Transformer
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Hey everyone, I heard that the transformer prime is supposed to have way more battery life, like 3hrs more, than the tf101. Is this true? Because that would be the only reason whether or not I would buy it??? Someone tell me the truth.
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I would also want to know if this "feature" is true. It has been sad that it is because a 5th low voltage core (600MHz I think) does your background stuff, like when you have it on idle.
I also have this decision to make. 1st prime is still not available in stores in my country, but I wonder if the prime is worth the extra cash. I'm thinking like this for now prime is more cool, more powerfull, better battery, more expensive and have some troubles with wireless antenas (someone please talk about these problems, how bad is it?). For cool, it lasts few time I think, after a while, you will want to play with it rather than admiring his looks. Powerfull, dont think I'll need the extra juice, battery - Strong pro point, poor wireless reception - Strong con point
Im guessing for 500$ (or €) I can get the TF101 16 GB with dock, or the prime 32GB without the dock. But havent decided yet, but more likely going to the tf101.
also check the prime TF700T, it was thought to fix the wireless antennas problem among other improvements (e.g. higher res screen), but will be more expensive, starting at 599$

[Q]Should i Buy a Glaxy Tab 2?

Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
I have an gtab 2 10.1 and i have to say that its amazing. Its smooth, has a nice display, good music boxes for a tablet and the battery life is awesome. ( 28 h with intensive use of wifi games and some youtube vids.)
The only thing thats bad about this tablet is the camera, but i think... ITS A TABLET! NOT A CANON EOS!
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PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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Be cautious when considering the Asus. I bought a new Transformer Prime 64GB, mainly because it seemed to be rated high and was cutting edge. It never worked right. Twice I had to send it to Texas for "repair", the first time when it was only a few days old. Asus has them locked and the unlocking app doesn't work for many, so there's no way to load CWM or a custom ROM. While just under the return window I sent mine back to Amazon for a refund and ordered the 10.1 Tab 2. It may not be cutting edge, but Samsung stuff is solid and there's a lot of support. You might also want to spend some time reading the threads here on XDA about the Asus before you decide. I wish I did. Just my two cents!
I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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this.
as much as I like my tab 2, for most folk the 16gb nexus 7 is the better purchase.
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I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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Agreed. I've gone through a couple phases with my Tab 2 7" thus far. I was initially a bit disappointed in it as the screen and performance weren't quite as crisp as my Galaxy S2 phone. But after more day-to-day use and comparing it with the hacked Nook Color I'd been using previously it's really started to grow on me and I quite like it now, especially given the price. But if I had to buy new right now I'd probably opt for a 16GB Nexus 7. The extra space provided by an external storage card on my Tab is largely useless as far as most apps are concerned.
PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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I got the Tab2 because it shipped with ICS, has a back camera and expandable storage. No regrets. I am not in the US so I wouldn't have been able to access all the Google services. Tab2 was a bit less ($10) than the Nexus for me.
You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.
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You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.
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Ha good one. Like I would spend my money on an apple product. Also the nexus tablet is like Two weeks? Two days old. I doubt someone compared it to this but thanks for the negativity downer Dan!
I am very happy with my Tab 2, but in the end I think the i-pad is the better choice: many more tablet apps available.
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Like scottx said buy an IPad so you can support sue happy Apple. They need more money so they can block or delay us in getting new non-apple products.
Seriously, I would do a lot of research and find local stores that have various ones on display and take some time to play with them. This is a big purchase for some of us. I kind of rushed into it and am not sure I made the best decision even though I am happy with my Tab 2. I had a Toshiba Excite 10 and it was great also with the exception that there is still not a lot of developers making apps that are compatible or support the Tegra 3 processor. And the fact that there was a glitch in the camera (which is better than the Tab 2) that caused some issues.
Good luck in you search and decision.
Whatever you do.. get something over 8GB ,,,,,,
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Sure
I'd owned iPad 2 about a year but traded it for Galaxy Tab 2 (5100) so I have experience for both devices.
iPad is absolutely unusable without JailBreak. And you can not guarantee some smart guy will make a jailbreak for new iOs version.
But it is smooth and handy and sweet and yummy. And all girls are yours (if you own Ferrari as well).
SGT2 is scarcely usable with stock Samsung rom. It's sluggish and it lives its own life and doesn't care what exactly you want to get by poking your finger into the screen. Sometimes it may make an exception and mercifully respond to your wishes. May be such an impression comes after iPad since raw android users don't experience anything like that.
Yesterday with help of comrade Endoroid I managed to flash CyanogenMod 9 to my SGT2. And you know what - it is smooth almost like iPad now but you haven't to perform all those Voodoo dance to just put a file on it. So now I have all the mighty might of android swiss knife and smoothness of near of such of Ipad.
As a summary - I would recommend you this device if you can handle flashing a custom rom and don't bother about warranty.
Make your choice (c) John Kramer.
Got my GTab 2 since yesterday. It ran only 1 minute stock (to copy CM9 and gapps on flash) . Now I'm running CM 9 RC2 - CM10 4.1 is in progress by codeworkx. It's so smooth :fingers-crossed: ! Love it! Only thing is, that dock features like audio/hdmi over dock connector aren't supported yet.
I've read in many threads that the build quality of the Nexus 7 is not very good. Asus tried to build it so that it would be easy to tear down and replace parts, and in order to do that, they did not use any glue to hold in the screen. This may been nice for the repair department, but it sucks for the average user constantly getting a loose screen (eventually causing damage to the screen).
Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??
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Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781237
The problem is that there is no glue.
Check out this video on the teardown.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/1
Hmm.. and one more thing. It looks like the screen has yet another problem with "ghosting" images.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-ghosting-issues-affect-some-displays-99349/
Oh and also it seems that Tegra 3 chips have a severe "flickering" problem with the display.
Gee.. that is like 3 separate problems directly related to the screen
There is a hardware problem that affects the flickering in the display. When the brightness level is turned down, the IPS panel is affected when the broadcom WiFi chip receives data. So, if you want to use the internet and turn down the brightness, you will get (from what other people say) severe flickering on the screen. Sounds annoying.
I got myself the galaxy tab 2 and overall well i will say for stock rom it does ok if you are doing light work (surfing,and music) although you do see the screen or tapping of screen lag when you are running more things. However overall rather stable for android os 4.0.3. i think there is an update to 4.0.4 but i guess i will stick with 4.0.3 a while longer before moving on to custom roms.
PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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NO! Don't buy Galaxy Tab 2, I suggest you to buy an Asus Transformer Pad than Gtab 2 because some reasons:
1. It's cheaper
2. It's using NVIDIA Tegra 2 GPU (Transformer) which run graphics very smoothly than Gtab 2 which only powered by PowerVR
3. Asus Transformer's dock is very usable, your tab can transformed into a netbook
4. The dock could extend the battery of the tab up to 6-10 hours as I know
5. The widget and live wallpaper is pretty cool and awesome B)
6. Asus built in apps is very usable too
And the last...
7. It's have good specs for gaming
But I just suggest you and you've still consider which is the best for you
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You should install this rom,if you like stock roms. Very nice indeed. Remove the bloatware,install some sort of app that stop apps from starting on their own, and you will see a nice improvement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765313

Anyone Upgrading? To A510,A700,Nexus 7

anyone going to switch to the newer acer devices? or the nexus 7? because tegra 3 is out and it seems very good, also might get the nexus although it would be missing external sd slot but that can be fixed if you root it, and the newer acer's seem to get hot but are getting fixed with software updates, what do you guys think? is it worth to upgrade to tegra 3? or wait for tegra 4 in 2013?
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anyone going to switch to the newer acer devices? or the nexus 7? because tegra 3 is out and it seems very good, also might get the nexus although it would be missing external sd slot but that can be fixed if you root it, and the newer acer's seem to get hot but are getting fixed with software updates, what do you guys think? is it worth to upgrade to tegra 3? or wait for tegra 4 in 2013?
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Already bought a 701. Still keeping the 501 though.
The hot processor is due to it being a high performance tablet. There's no way yet around this, but hopefully some newer updates will lower the temp down a little.
It all depends on 2 things.
a. Do you want it?
b. Do you have the cash?
If you answer yes to both, or yes to one, but unsure of the other, then go out and get it.
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Moscow Desire said:
Already bought a 701. Still keeping the 501 though.
The hot processor is due to it being a high performance tablet. There's no way yet around this, but hopefully some newer updates will lower the temp down a little.
It all depends on 2 things.
a. Do you want it?
b. Do you have the cash?
If you answer yes to both, or yes to one, but unsure of the other, then go out and get it.
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How is the 701 i was gonna pick one up but heard the interface was kinda clunky or laggy?
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How is the 701 i was gonna pick one up but heard the interface was kinda clunky or laggy?
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Well, the interface is ok. ICS. I really didn't get a good chance to play around, as it.... ahem.... bricked. (no comment, but you know me, testing a tweaked kernel. Seems the recovery author screwed the pooch on the recovery. Not only wasn;t tested because he doesn't own a 70x, but was based on the 510 recovery, which the author of course later found it, it bricks the tab when you restore Lesson learned. Well, should get it back hopefully in a week. About time I bricked a tab
I wrote an initial review in my rom thread.
Basically, the only complaint I had, was 2. Hot processor (supposedly an update has either been released, or promised by acer), and the screen sensitivity is in my opinion, not as sensitive as the 50x. Sometimes had to press a little harder. But I think both can be fixed with an update. It's a first release after all.
Overall, a good upgrade I think. But if you can get the 51x at a better price, and can sacrifice the HD display, you might be better off. But that display...... Daaaaaaamnnnnn.
EDIT. On a sidenote, the TF Prime also has Tegra3, and it also runs warmer than normal under load. And they don't have an HD Display. But if you OC the TF Prime, to 1.6 and give it a load, it runs hot. Mine, out of the box, was 1.4. Strange. But it never rebooted after 30-40 min of Shadowgun. But was pretty hot. 90c maybe. I would probably advise 30-40 min of solid HD game playing, then let it cool. It cools down really quick when you let it rest for a couple minutes.
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You know, being a techie with means, in a way I am very much tempted by Tegra 3s and all the new hardware, but I stop and ask myself, why? I don't play games on my 500, and I run reflexxx, so it does everything I want it too, and smoothly.
I think for me, personally, it's less of a question of whether I have the money or the desire, and more of do I have an actual need? I mean, Chrome, Perfect Viewer, and Moon+ don't exactly need much horse power. Perhaps if I sat down with a Tegra 3 workhorse I'd think differently, but short of putting on a T3 game and saying "oooh" for five minutes, I can't see any real benefit beyond a slightly better battery life.
I have to
The on off switch on my A500 totally broke off the board so I am out of luck there. My wife's still works for her though. I'll probably go for the Nexus but I'm not happy with no SD card slot
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The on off switch on my A500 totally broke off the board so I am out of luck there. My wife's still works for her though. I'll probably go for the Nexus but I'm not happy with no SD card slot
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Same thing happened to me but i soilder mine back on! WOOT WOOT
yeah the nexus doesnt have a slot but i found out that it supports otg so i can buy a 64gb flash drive for like $35 and i can have lots of movies and files right there with my nexus
Nexus 7 on its way
I have pre ordered nexus 7. Its been getting great reviews with of course the storage negative. But for me its ok 16 gb . im not big on movies . Will pass keep my a500 for using on the couch . Went to NEXUS 7 inch because of size will fit in my purse.. I still love my a500 thou.
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I have pre ordered nexus 7. Its been getting great reviews with of course the storage negative. But for me its ok 16 gb . im not big on movies . Will pass keep my a500 for using on the couch . Went to NEXUS 7 inch because of size will fit in my purse.. I still love my a500 thou.
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Would you recommend the nexus 7? And where did you order yours? I heard they are out of stock in a lot of places.
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I think that I'll hold out until the holidays before I even think about a new tablet. By then it should be well known which ones have good dev support, lots of ROMs, etc.
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I have pre ordered nexus 7. Its been getting great reviews with of course the storage negative. But for me its ok 16 gb . im not big on movies . Will pass keep my a500 for using on the couch . Went to NEXUS 7 inch because of size will fit in my purse.. I still love my a500 thou.
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Welcome back Erica. Good to see you. It's been a while.
I also saw that there might a kindle fire 2 in a ten inch version on Aug. 6th and the galaxy note 10.1 inch so I might wait till then and see If they start making nexus 7 in 32gb but I doubt it
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I bought my a500 last December when Target had them on a fire sale. I'll probably do something similar this coming holiday season. Truth be told, I'm incredibly satisfied with my Iconia, but I'm always interested in the next best thing, and Tegra 3 has the right mix of performance and price for my income.
I won't get a Nexus 7, however. No SDcard, no HDMI, and no USB host are all deal breakers for me. The Iconia has spoiled me in this regard.
I'm thinking about getting myself a Nexus 7 to go alongside my a500. You can never have too much tech.
I have had a a500 since about July 2011. I really like it and with ICS it got even better. I replaced my rooted Nook Color with it but for reading I find the a500 to be too heavy so I picked up a Nexus 7 last week. LOVE it! Super light and great for reading on and I haven't touched my a500 since. I do really like JB and the smoothness of Tegra 3 compared to the a500. I think I will still prefer the 10 in tablet for web browsing but for $199 the N7 just can't be beat. Can't believe I was recommending the Kindle fire to friends just a month ago.
Used a nexus 7 for a few days, passed it along to my parents. No hdmi, no card slot, that's a dealbreaker. I'm waiting to see an A700 in person, but the Nexus 7 will be a tough act to follow. I'm hoping Google will follow up with a Nexus 10 that fills in the gaps of the Nexus 7.
hopped on teh nexus 7, I have been wanting a smaller tablet, plus my step dad now has the a500 which helps while he is waiting for kemo, for some reason it takes like hours just to get into treament
No more tegra for me. Im waiting for an cheapass tab with an high quality screen and a nice resolution cause thats really the only thing I need and in my eyes mather these days. Since all cpus are strong enough for most of the tasks. For example; my Desire Z with an 800 mhz cpu can play all the latest games like gta, maxpayne, dead trigger just fine. It even runs xbmc with navi-x totally smooth. I can even say it handles the most important tasks like browsing and playing video much beter than my dual core crappy tablet, especiely video decoding. And since xda officially gave Nvidia the middlefinger I do the same.
EDIT: The desire even runs dead trigger with tegra 3 graphics tottaly smooth...
After the A501 I will never buy another Acer product and I recommend anybody that asks my opinion on the matter to stay away also..
I just picked up a Nexus 7 last week. Got tired of being behind for AOSP ROMs. Didn't realize about the lack of USB hosting or I might not have bought it. Having a slight screen issue so it might go back to Staples.
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Exchange My Nexus 7 for EEE Pad Transformer TF101- Is it worth?

Hey Guys,
I need some help here. So basically i have the all new Google Nexus 7 tablet which has just launched. So I am getting an offer to exchange my Nexus 7 for an ASUS EEE Pad Transformer TF101. I was considering switching but was not able to make the descsion, so i need help from you guys on whether switching/exchanging a Nexus 7 for a TF101 Transformer Is worth it? The Transformer has a Dual Core Tegra 2 while as the Nexus 7 has a Quad core Tegra 3. Other than that the Transformer seems better. It has a larger screen with slightly lower PPI, it has a 5 MP camer + front facing one too. It has 16GB internal + expandable storage(not sure if expandable). Build quality and battery life seems equal on both. So i want to know if the Tegra 2 is well performing on the TF101 and whether it can handle the latest games/apps and whether the TF101 lags?
Thanks all!
Do you get the keyboard or just the tablet?
The Asus Transformer is also worth taking a look coz its is bundled with features....
But finally it depends upon you that what are your needs as If you want to use it for hardcore gaming then obv. Transformer is the one to go with but if you want a pure Google experience and are GOOGLE FAN then you should stay with the Nexus 7 as it has the latest and coolest features....but in the end u r the 1 who has to make the decission as per ur needs... Happy googling
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Do you get the keyboard or just the tablet?
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just the tablet!!!
does the Tegra 2 lag and stutter with latest apps/games...thts what i actually need to know?
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just the tablet!!!
does the Tegra 2 lag and stutter with latest apps/games...thts what i actually need to know?
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Even running at stock speed, my TF runs all the games I've played smoothly. ....But there are some newer games optimized for Tegra 3. BTW, I have both the TF and Nexus 7, and they're both awesome in their own way.
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If it is new or a refurb and not coming from a private/owner seller, I say go for it. You can always buy another Nexus 7 when the price drops. If it is the owner, then maybe you could work out a temporary/trade/try it. If pre-owned does it have any problems. Maybe nothing is wrong and they are just feeling the urge ( you know, that desire for the latest toy). I have noticed that the price for the TF101 has gone up since I bought mine 7 months ago. I will probably buy the N7, due to the urge. But I had better wait for cooler weather. Just paid an electric bill that was over $300
after using a 7', the 10.01" will seem huge in comparison. I have the keyboard dock, it's cool, with the extra battery, USB & SD slot. But I rarely use it, the soft key pad is great.
Actually you should keep the Nexus coz it is new and latest tech by the Android Owner/Developer, so it is a must have tab fr Android geeks as Google has worked hard for putting all those features in such a low rate....and the second reason is that Transformer has become a bit old and isnt the latest technology although it is a good competetor but it is like an old Grand Father with less usability.
....also you will in Starting love the keyboard along but after some time you will see no use of the keyboard....also the keyboard dock after some time becom lose and while carrying both connected it slips(nt personal experience of dock)....well indeed make a good choice which suits you the best....
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Even though the n7 is a Google device I will probably never buy any tablet smaller than the 10 inch. Same reason I will never buy a phone bigger than 5 inch. Just my two cents.
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It depends on your usage model. I have both the TF and N7, and ever since I got the N7 my TF has mostly stayed turned off. However, I don't plan to get rid of the TF either. I mainly use my tablets for browsing and watching downloaded videos. Browsing on the N7 is smooth and buttery, while on the TF it is reasonably quick but the occasional stutter happens more often and is therefore more irritating. The UI on the TF isn't as smooth, but in my experience apps work flawlessly. Videos, on the other hand, look better on the TF. It's not just the screen size, but the contrast seems better as well. The N7 is also easier to hold/handle due to it's small size.
Let me put it this way, if you primarily browse the web or stream most of your content (or love having the latest and greatest OS), stick with the N7. If you need lots of local storage (or are stuck with slow DSL), want to output content to a TV (I use mine to play emulator games with my PS3 controller), or want the optional convenience of the keyboard and the epic battery life that gives you, trade for the TF.
I would go ahead and probably swap a nexus 7 for an OG transformer.
Simple reason being...SD card support. They both got great screens but transformer is bigger at 10.1 inch. The difference between quad and dual core doesn't really bother me at this point in time. Both got 1 gig of ram also.
You can't really go wrong. I love my transformer still after almost a year. I've no intention of replacing it anytime soon.
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I would go ahead and probably swap a nexus 7 for an OG transformer.
Simple reason being...SD card support. They both got great screens but transformer is bigger at 10.1 inch. The difference between quad and dual core doesn't really bother me at this point in time. Both got 1 gig of ram also.
You can't really go wrong. I love my transformer still after almost a year. I've no intention of replacing it anytime soon.
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I wouldn't. Unless it comes with the dock.
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I've got both and personally i would stick with the nexus. i really want to love the TF101, the keyboard hybrid is such a great idea but it's been a really frustrating experience - very often laggy as hell (press the recent apps key and wait 5 secs for it to respond!), too many bugs for a device that is now over a year old (crashed launcher, screen locking up, i still occasionally have the device randomly rebooting). the speakers and microphone are also awful, really poor quality.
The nexus really is the best android tablet on the market at the moment in terms of performance. but if screen size/storage space is important then maybe it's worth swapping - but i would consider another android tablet.
well the OG transformer has HDMi out while the nexus 7 doesnt
I'm willing to transfer my tf101 with dock!
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I'm willing to transfer my tf101 with dock!
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I can take that for sealed N7. PM me.
man, i'll gladly go with a Nexus 7 over my Transformer+dock.
i would rather want the smaller form factor. taking around the Transformer+dock just seems too much like a laptop to me, and without the laptop power.

Nexus 10 or TF300

I really like the nexus 10 and I know this forum may be a little bias, but I am debating selling my tf300 with dock for a nexus 10.... thoughts/opinions welcome!
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Depends on what you really need. I had the infinity and the nexus 10 is miles ahead of it in my opinion.
300 pros:
-Keyboard dock with extended battery
-Expandable storage
-Insanely fast charging times
Cons:
-Slow I/o
-Rear speaker
-Tegra 3 (if you want to count this..)
Nexus 10 pros:
-Screen
-Battery (not comparing it to the Asus+dock)
-Front speakers
-Insanely fast
Cons:
-Slow battery charging (6 hours on full)
-Some games run slow due to the amount of pixels to push plus not yet optimized for the N10.
-No expandable storage
In the end it boils down to what you need, but I love my N10 and am not sugar coating it in any way. I tried the tf300 first, returned that for a 700. Decided I'd compare it to a note 10.1 and returned both and got the N10.
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Great info..thanks...
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Any other thoughts? My biggest issue with thw tf300 has been the web browsing, but thats not really anything new.
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Any other thoughts? My biggest issue with thw tf300 has been the web browsing, but thats not really anything new.
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Define issue with web browsing? Do you mean laginess or sluggidhness? If so the n10 has none. It loads web sites very fast and has no touch or input lag via on screen keyboard.
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Any other thoughts? My biggest issue with thw tf300 has been the web browsing, but thats not really anything new.
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I'll let you know. I currently use the TF300 (stock), but am annoyed with the sluggishness concerning web browsing, e-mail, etc. My Nexus 10 is coming tomorrow. Hopefully it will be better.
Although I must say that I was reading about the Boat Browser somewhere on these XDA forums, and I had never heard of this browser before. I installed it a couple of days ago and it definitely improves the browsing experience on the TF300. Give it a try.
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Define issue with web browsing? Do you mean laginess or sluggidhness? If so the n10 has none. It loads web sites very fast and has no touch or input lag via on screen keyboard.
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Yes the laginess or slugginess... it has gotten better since the past few updates, but not what it should be....I am hoping i can get $400 for my 32GB tf300 with keyboard dock and a 16GB micro sd card and bluetooth mouse
I really beleive the nexus 10 is the better device...
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I'll let you know. I currently use the TF300 (stock), but am annoyed with the sluggishness concerning web browsing, e-mail, etc. My Nexus 10 is coming tomorrow. Hopefully it will be better.
Although I must say that I was reading about the Boat Browser somewhere on these XDA forums, and I had never heard of this browser before. I installed it a couple of days ago and it definitely improves the browsing experience on the TF300. Give it a try.
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I am very curious to hear your thoughts.... I have used Boat Browser, in fact i think i have tried them all.. ill have to see if i can find some youtube videos of web browsing....
cdrshm
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Take this for what its worth....I am a geek and have had 5 different tablets over the past few years. The loved my tf101 w dock...I absolutely loved my transformer . I skipped the prime, my tf101 was still rockin....my transformer died and I saved up the money for the infinity tf700 with dock. I absolutely hated it. It was like there was always something slowing it down and it made me think I just had a bad unit. Did some research and found out that after the prime Asus had a bit of an io issue with the memory , the infinity inherited the issue.
Got my nexus on Thursday and I love it like I loved my transformer compared to a gtab ....the difference between the nexus and the infinity are like daylight and dark. I also have to say its really badass having aosp in a perfect state...no cm or akop issues....love cm love akop but you all know what I mean. My point is...I love this tab compared to the infinity...screen is beautiful , proc is next gen, and jb4.2 is smooth as butter on this device...so many little things cleaned up, this may be the best android version yet.
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I really like the nexus 10 and I know this forum may be a little bias, but I am debating selling my tf300 with dock for a nexus 10.... thoughts/opinions welcome!
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If storage is your main concern, stick with the TF300, or better yet upgrade to the TF700. If it isn't, upgrade to Nexus 10. I came from a TF700 and the difference is staggering. Screen is much nicer, sound is much louder (and stereo placement!!!).
I've also owned the original Transformer, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (still one of best tablet designs hands down), the Prime and only the GT10.1 comes close to the Nexus 10 in terms of build quality (I wonder why ).
I'd recommend the TF300 over the TF700 for a few reasons, and neither over the N10.
Why the TF300 over the 700? It's less expensive, it's far more comfortable to use for long periods thanks to the not-sexy but also not-stupid plastic construction, more resistant to wear and abuse as a result, and it's not trying to whip a Tegra 3 into running 1080p resolution it is not suited for.
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If storage is your main concern, stick with the TF300, or better yet upgrade to the TF700. If it isn't, upgrade to Nexus 10. I came from a TF700 and the difference is staggering. Screen is much nicer, sound is much louder (and stereo placement!!!).
I've also owned the original Transformer, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (still one of best tablet designs hands down), the Prime and only the GT10.1 comes close to the Nexus 10 in terms of build quality (I wonder why ).
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I am not concerned about storage at all, just performance and beauty.... I have tried to put my tf300 in the marketplace but don't have rights, anyone know who I need to talk too?
Thanks
Cdrshm
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I'd recommend the TF300 over the TF700 for a few reasons, and neither over the N10.
Why the TF300 over the 700? It's less expensive, it's far more comfortable to use for long periods thanks to the not-sexy but also not-stupid plastic construction, more resistant to wear and abuse as a result, and it's not trying to whip a Tegra 3 into running 1080p resolution it is not suited for.
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For me its either keep the tf300 or sell for the nexus 10
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Anyone have an idea of what to sell my 32gb tf300 with dock and 16gb micro sd? Mint condition!!
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Anyone have an idea of what to sell my 32gb tf300 with dock and 16gb micro sd? Mint condition!!
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I'm selling my TF300 today on eBay. I put a couple of other TF300s on my watch list just to see what they were going for. It looks like the tablet is going for the low to mid $200's. I don't know about the keyboard as I don't have one so didn't put it on the watch list. Also, if you decide to sell yours before Monday, eBay is doing a deal where if you sell an item through the eBay mobile app, you can sell it for free.
I played with the Nexus 10 for about an hour or so this morning. My initial impressions are that it is very zippy compared to the TF300. I remember first getting the TF300 and turning it on. All my apps starting downloading in the background automatically and while they were downloading and installing, the TF300 got really slow and laggy. With the Nexus 10, it was doing all that downloading and installing in the background and it was still silky smooth.
Overall, it's a much better device. The screen is obviously sharper. It is very quick to switch screens, cycle through apps, etc. If there's any lag, I couldn't perceive it. Browsing with the Boat and Chrome browsers is definitely zippier. When you scroll down a page, especially one with pictures, you can tell it just scrolls much more smoothly. I never saw that annoying "waiting for the browser to respond" which I normally saw at least once or twice per hour on the TF300. Anyway, that's all I've really done with it. I only use it for browsing and e-mail (I don't game on tablets), and for those purposes it is definitely a nicer, smoother machine than the TF300- which should be expected for its price and the advance in technology over the older device.
Stay away from Asus and the Transformer line. I'm telling you. They don't know how to write software, and they don't support their devices. I gladly sold my TF201 for the N10 and it was the best decision I've made. You've been warned.
I had the TF700 and was very disappointed. The i/o power just wasn't there. Most noticeable on web browsing - major lag. I sold it and so far I am quite happy with the Nexus 10 performance.
I had a TF700T / Infinity for close to 2 months -- just returned it this morning to Best Buy (reward zone silver -- 60 days to decide). I went back and forth on this a lot before returning it. My Infinity and dock didn't have any of the build issues that some have described -- no creaking, no screen lift, etc. The overall build seemed excellent, and overall the Infinity looks and feels like an incredible premium device. I also really liked the expandable storage and the extra battery power in the dock, and it really has a great display. When it worked, it was sweet -- but I ran into frequent lags, browser freeze-ups, slow app updates and file transfers, etc. I knew it was possible to unlock, root and flash a custom ROM to get better performance -- but I really didn't want to HAVE to do that just to make the device usable, especially since the combination of tablet and dock cost me about $650.
Reading through the TF700 sub forums, it seemed that about half the users had good experience using NvFlash and custom ROMs, but a significant number of folks reported frozen devices, boot loops, etc -- more than I'm used to seeing in most XDA sub forums. It seems to me that the device really wasn't intended to be easily flashable -- and easily recoverable in the event of issues. If I'm going to be flashing custom ROMs to my tablet, I'd rather it be a device sold with this in mind. Having used a Nexus phone (Galaxy Nexus) for the past year, I can attest to the fact that it's virtually impossible to brick this beyond the ability to wipe and start over. I appreciate this about Nexus devices.
I wish the Nexus 10 had expandable memory, and it would be nice if a pogo pin based charger option would be sold soon. Despite this, everything I read convinced me to return my Infinity today and order a Nexus 10.
Well it seems pretty unanimous for the nexus 10, as expected!!! I took the first steps and sold my tf300, now just trying to sell the keyboard dock. I am stoked about getting the nexus 10. Cant wait for it to be back in stock... thanks again for all the great info and personal experience!
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Despite this, everything I read convinced me to return my Infinity today and order a Nexus 10.
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Where did you order yours from?
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