EL30 MTD is here - Epic 4G General

I'm now running EL30 on MTD with my custom ROM!

HODriver said:
I'm now running EL30 on MTD with my custom ROM!
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and U R gonna share that ..... when ? LOL

I just mixed together the first test now. Right now it's a HUGE rom Taking up 281MB of System Space, and I'm having problems with Titanium Backup not seeing the system as rooted, even if Super User is giving it permission. I'm still a very new rookie at cooking a ROM.
I do want to thank earthbound, his Seppuku MTD TW Kernel is awesome!
Now I need to make this quick microwave batch of EL30 Gingerbread taste like oven fresh.

Well if you do manage to get a stock MTD version of EL30 working I'm sure many people here would love to get in on it.

We are all anxious to see it. Good luck nailing it all down.
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OK, so I'm deleting some of the programs I don't like out of the stock programs to take out some fat. I'm also going to try taking Titanium Backup out of the system apps to see if that helps with it's root issue. Android terminal emulator is switching ok to the proper SU # prompt when I command SU in the terminal.

Update for those curious
I was able to get the size of the ROM down to about 235MB System, far better then it was.
As for the root issue, I realized that it's not the fault of Titanium Backup, but all my root programs could not recognize successful rooting (Set CPU, ES File Explorer, etc) and my version of SU kept reporting an outdated version (2.xx versus the 3.07 I have on my EI22 ROM), which is strange because I used the same Super User apk file from my EI22 ROM.
Sadly, I don't know enough about the intricacies of the root settings between Kernel, and ROM Versions to be able to solve the issues. I suspect there was something to do with my use of Earthbound's EI22 Kernel with the EL30 ROM Files, but I can't find the problem.
By what I saw from late night testing, there were two problems:
The root issues
GPS Lock Issues (Couldn't try changing the permissions because I didn't have root permissions.
I apologize for my failures at fixing the problems for a good release.

Come back when it is using the el30 kernel. The old convert process still works...
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Do you know of any good sites where I can learn actual kernel development on windows?
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[ROM] Captivate-Deodexed-JH7 v 0.2-Stock

The fruits of my deodexing project are now available for everyone to taste. What this ROM has is JH7 fully deodexed and zipaligned, and then tweaked. I have decided to remove the focus off the optimization, as others have made far more advances, and my choices may not be agreeable to someone else. I am not responsible for anything that happens to your phone, but I have tested this on my phone, and other than the issues noted below, I have not run across anything deal breaking. This is just a different way to optimize the files, so risk of any hardware damage is minimal. You'll only run into software that won't work.
How to install:
1. Download the zip file, and place it on the sd card.
2. Fire up ROM manager, and apply from SD card, also recommend doing a nandroid back up at the same time
3. ???
4. Profit
What yout get:
1. Stock JH7 deodexed, and zipaligned
2. AT&T and Samsung bloatware removed
2. Superuser and Busybox preinstalled
3. build.prop preedited to allow you to see all market apps
4. The kernel is untouched during the update, but the user data, and cache are wiped. You will need a Titanium Backup to restore.
Known Issues:
1. This is a stock style ROM, and you have to apply any optimizations or fixes manually, or using something like SRE. The JH7 files are all there (except the odex's of course), so the latest SRE should be compatible in theory, but I have always done all tweaks on the phone myself in the past so I am not 100% sure. I'll let some of you be the guinea pigs and report back.
2. Deodexing, and zipaligning is not some magic bullet for performance increase. I personally see no significant difference between the stock performance and this installation. But this is more flexible down the line to get us nearer to Vanilla Eclair due to having been deodexed.
How to Remove:
Use ROM manager, and restore previous backup.
The ROM can be downloaded Here:
Captivate-Deodexed-JH7_v_0.2-Stock
I hope for this to become a test bed of new ideas I can try out to make things better on our phone. So if you want to test it and guide me, I'd appreciate your input. If someone wants to take this and build upon it further, feel free to do so. I'll look into fixing the two apps force closing, with focus being on the camera, followed by the keyboard. Squashed.
Wow lets see what's to come off this + sre + new kernel + voodoo lag fix + froyo!
BRING ON THE THEMES!
WOw! How long did this take you???
TheTodFather said:
WOw! How long did this take you???
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Not all that long. The deodexing itself is very automated. Making the ROM took a couple of more days to work out the updating script. I still need to work on the best way to integrate superuser and busybox.
i'll give it a shot!
Dear sirs and/or madams,
What's "deodexed and zipaligned"?
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Dear sirs and/or madams,
What's "deodexed and zipaligned"?
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I've wandered this as well
I would try it but I am too happy with how I've got it. The next time I flash it, it's gonna be to stock so I can get the 2.2 OTA. The work tho, I will say thank you for that.
Quick question..Why is sideloading disabled???
Flashing in just a sec, will update.
Sideloading is controlled by the settings.db file in dbdata. When you flash this ROM, that file gets wiped out and is rebuilt on first boot. I think the original is in the ramdisk packed with the kernel. So on first boot the old crippled file is recreated for you to hack into again.
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Camera FC all the time, besides that ROM is pretty fast and zippy good job OP.
Will this rom do anything that might break something like SRE? If not, I'll flash it for sure. Got to do a round of it anyway to get the latest goodies
Here's what I've found so far:
-Camera force close
-Log tab in Superuser causes it to force close
-Superuser does work though, aside for the Log tab
-Wifi doesn't work for me
-Mobile Video bloatware isn't uninstalled, just need to be removed from script file and apps folder
Other than that, it's quite zippy and quick. Nice job! I'll take a look at the scripts and files a little later to see if I can fix some of the problems. Keyboard FC should also be an easy fix.
rajendra82, can I suggest that you release the rom as completely vanilla with the deodex and zipalign in place? In theory, everything should work as expected from a vanilla rom and not have things like the Camera app FC.
Users can then apply SRE and you would not have to reinvent the wheel regarding including Superuser, etc. apps.
From what you said about deodex and zipaligning in the other thread, a completely vanilla rom with these optimizations would already be beneficial.
Will installing this ROM negatively affect my phone in any way besides voiding the warranty?
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rajendra82, can I suggest that you release the rom as completely vanilla with the deodex and zipalign in place? In theory, everything should work as expected from a vanilla rom and not have things like the Camera app FC.
Users can then apply SRE and you would not have to reinvent the wheel regarding including Superuser, etc. apps.
From what you said about deodex and zipaligning in the other thread, a completely vanilla rom with these optimizations would already be beneficial.
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It will be very easy for me to release the vanilla version, I had actually built that first. Samsung Keyboard still force closed on me when I had flashed that. I didn't know about the force close on camera at the time, but I am sure that it would have behaved the same way. The reason for force closure of these two apps is some bug in deodexing. The apps I removed are the same that SRE does, and I manually removed from my phone before deodexing. That is not the reason for force closes. But if everyone would rather have a stock deodexed ROM that they optimize themselves, I can release it a short time. I will also have to look at tweaking the deodexing process some to get rid of the force closes on the keyboard and camera apps.
+1 on a vanilla Rom..That would be great
rajendra82 said:
It will be very easy for me to release the vnilla version, I had actually built that first. Samsung Keyboard still force closed on me when I had flashed that. I didn't know about the force close on camera at the time, but I am sure that it would have behaved the same way. The reason for force clodure of these two apps is some bug in deodexing. The apps I removed are the same that SRE does, and I manually removed from my phone before deodexing. That is not the reason for force closes. But if everyone would rathe have a stock deodexed ROM that they opimize, I can release it a short time. I will also have to look at tweaking the deodexing process to get rid of the force closes.
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vanilla would be great my friend...much appreciated
OP updated with stock deodexed ROM linked.
Now I need your help. I know the Camera app that is force closing is Camera.apk, but what app is the Samsung keyboard? On the same lines, when an app force closes, is there a log file generated somewhere to explain what happened.
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Here's what I've found so far:
-Camera force close
-Log tab in Superuser causes it to force close
-Superuser does work though, aside for the Log tab
-Wifi doesn't work for me
-Mobile Video bloatware isn't uninstalled, just need to be removed from script file and apps folder
Other than that, it's quite zippy and quick. Nice job! I'll take a look at the scripts and files a little later to see if I can fix some of the problems. Keyboard FC should also be an easy fix.
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Camera issue acknowledged. Looking to fix that. The superuser app version I used had that issue anyway on stock ROM before deodexing, later versions seem to have solved it. I have now decided to keep this a stock ROM project to weed out extraneous issues such as these. WiFi worked fine for me at home and work, so I am not sure what's going on at your end.
E_man5112 said:
Will this rom do anything that might break something like SRE? If not, I'll flash it for sure. Got to do a round of it anyway to get the latest goodies
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Other than the kernel, everything that SRE does will be wiped out, as the whole system, data, and cache partitions will revert back to stock. You can always re flash SRE though.

JK6: No OCLF due to \system\lib full

Hi - I've upgraded to stock Froyo (re-rooted afterward, no worries) and couldn't re-run OCLF. It told me that it couldn't install 'EXT2 Tools' as \system\lib is full. So I downloaded root explorer as I thought I had to re-mount the directory. I opened that, went to the right folder and changed the little button to 'rw'..... no difference.
What am I missing??
Thanks.
Any thoughts would be much appreciated - I also mounted as r/w with SGS Tools with no impact. I don't know if that's the issue stopping me from using One Click Lag Fix, but maybe.
I have no problems running OCLF and I'm running stock froyo rom. Try again!
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Uninstall EXT.2 tools,
Uninstall OCLF,
Stay ROOTED!
download MacnutR14
DO NOT OPEN ZIP use astro or andexplorer copy from downloads folder go back to sd & paste there. Now backup all your apps, contacts,data whateva.. Using titanium,
Go into recovery mode how every u do go to install zip from sd, pick zip from sd, Go down to Macnut14, Go down to yes
Your now flashing the hottest rom you've every seen
When its done reboot system now
It will restart in less than five minutes leave it alone untill goes through the scanning sd & all that. The titanium get all your apps and stuff back.
Now flash the SUPER IO KERNEL the exact same way move zip file, to sd. when flashing don't pick update pick zip from sd & do the same as before
Reboot system now
Ok now download RyanZA's one click lagfix from market install EXT.2 TOOLS
install v.2 lagfix restart your done
Your now hitting 1800's Quadrant score not bad with the hottest smoothest fastest phone. All from the phone no pc needed
It took me days of reading threads to gather this info you just received in minutes JUST THANK THE MAKERS OF THESE GREAT ROMS & MODS
vibrant rooted
macnutR14
super io kernel
RyanZA's lagfix
QS 1889
2.2 froyo
Mine said it could not installl the lagfix because data/ was full. I just went there and delted the OCLF and EXT2 folders.... went back to the app and it worked then.
Awesome, thanks guys. Looks like I have a little project for the w/e but I'm confident with these tips I will sort it.
Thank f%%% for this forum.
Oh, the best tip was ' try again'. Super. I guess they are everywhere.
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Need help with a rooted 2.2 DK28 Epic 4g

i rooted it by flashing it with a rooted 2.2 package that had the gps fix, clockwork and some other stuff. - im not a techie...
one thing is there were some instructions on copying and pasting dbus.conf which i didnt know how to do so - what is that?
1. How do I get roms for dk28? someone said there are no good ROms for 2.2.
2. If there are no roms, how do i delete bloatware?
3. How do i maximize battery life and (possibly) speed (by managing apps?)?
You need to flash just a stock dk28 rom if your not sure how to work that particular one. It involves using a program called adb on your pc and using a command adb push from a command prompt.
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Some Questions Before I Root

I've considered rooting and installing a custom ROM dozens of times ever since I got my Droid X back in August and I've finally decided I'm just going to do it, but i just want to double check a few things before I root my phone and install Fission:
1. I know that rooting voids your warranty, but if I have problems with my phone and I end up needing repairs, can I just unroot my phone back to stock and still have my phone be covered under the warranty?
2. Will my phone be secure rooted with a custom ROM? I don't want people having access to my personal info contact data, and my passwords.
3. If I Overclock to say 1.2 or 1.3 Ghz with ULV, will I have stability problems with demanding 3D games or other demanding apps?
4. After I root and install my Custom Rom, will I need to reactivate my phone or need to re-add my phone contacts/apps?
5. Will Z4Root work on system version 2.3.340?
I have unrooted and exchanged under warranty with no problems. Your phone will be just as secure. 1.2-1.3 are very stable on my phone. If you do have to reactivate it's as easy as dialing *228 and following the prompts. If your contacts are "google" contacts they'll return to your phonebook. Your apps from the market shall return without a problem. And yes, z4root will work with your system version.
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I am having difficulty rooting my droid x. I am an android noob, but am a pretty savvy user. I used z4 (permanant) and it says it has been rooted when i launch the app. However i see no appreciable difference in access. My terminal still shows a $ prompt and i cannot uninstall verizons crapware. I used rage against the cage prior to z4 with similar results, but i was able to at least get temporary su access and install the bootstrap recovery and perform a system level backup. It reverted to user access after rebooting. Please help.
Superuser confirmation
alright, if you want super user privileges in terminal type "su", then once you hit enter, you get "#" instead of "$" To test if you have root access, first check app drawer for "Superuser" if its there, open an app that requires it, (wifi teather, root explorer, rom manager to name a few) you should get a pop up similar to this
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...=1&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0&biw=888&bih=638
that would be a diffinitive confirmation that you have superuser permissions.
The way I remove verizons crap once rooted, is to use root explorer, go to system/app and find the .apk files you want to remove. There are lists around the forums what is safe to remove. I highly recommend simply renaming the files. For example, the 3g hotspot app is called mynet.apk, so I would just rename it to mynet.bak, or mynet.apk.bak, really anything that lets you know what it is, but removes the .apk extension.
Ok, I have confirmed su access, but am unable to rename any of the offending .apk's. I am simply told that the operation was unsuccessful. I have tried a couple of different file managers, as well as trying from a terminal, still no luck. I like 2.2.1 alright, but if i can't control what apps are running on my phone with root access, I may want another ROM. Any suggestions are appreciated, aswell as any links to a rom installer that is pc-less.
I usually rename apk's from Root Explorer, just prefer the graphical interface, so I can't really help you on the terminal process.
Rom manager is "pc-less" although most roms are posted in forums first it is often the easiest route, also lets you make backups and restore. There are a few posts around on how to install a rom you might want to read first. Also, you should find the thread for the rom before you flash it, in favor of size and speed, some developers go down to bare minimum and may remove something you need/want.
I have not used it, but I hear Titanium Backup allows you to "Freeze" apps, so that is a possible route also.
2.2.1 is not exclusive to people running official vzw builds, many of the roms on the forum (and rom manager) are running 2.2.1, so you will not be taking a step back to an earlier release.
SharkBaitDave said:
I usually rename apk's from Root Explorer, just prefer the graphical interface, so I can't really help you on the terminal process.
Rom manager is "pc-less" although most roms are posted in forums first it is often the easiest route, also lets you make backups and restore. There are a few posts around on how to install a rom you might want to read first. Also, you should find the thread for the rom before you flash it, in favor of size and speed, some developers go down to bare minimum and may remove something you need/want.
I have not used it, but I hear Titanium Backup allows you to "Freeze" apps, so that is a possible route also.
2.2.1 is not exclusive to people running official vzw builds, many of the roms on the forum (and rom manager) are running 2.2.1, so you will not be taking a step back to an earlier release.
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If you are trying to rename apps in the /system/app portion of the OS, you will need to mount /system as RW first.
from terminal: mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
After it has been mounted read-write, you should be able to rename...
to remount as read-only: mount -o ro,remount /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
zwade01 said:
I have unrooted and exchanged under warranty with no problems. Your phone will be just as secure. 1.2-1.3 are very stable on my phone. If you do have to reactivate it's as easy as dialing *228 and following the prompts. If your contacts are "google" contacts they'll return to your phonebook. Your apps from the market shall return without a problem. And yes, z4root will work with your system version.
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Thank you for your response. Just out of curiosity, did you (or anyone else for that matter) have to reactivate your phone after rooting and installing a custom ROM? I'd rather not have to re-activate my phone every time I want to update a ROM or change to a different ROM.
Thank all of you for the great info. Here's what I've learned after a day of rooting and romming: titanium freezes apps only in the paid version, z4 was the most user friendly app for rooting noobs, milestone overclock works well if you have the patience to lock up your phone several times finding the right settings, and I'm digging apeX 1.3.1. Thx to everyone for your help, i will definately be checking here frequently. One last question: where might i find a side by side comparo of roms with things like features and memory footprint, etc.? Or am I asking for too much. Im not scared of the search button, but i will defer to the more experienced of you. Thanks again.
galaga4991 said:
Thank you for your response. Just out of curiosity, did you (or anyone else for that matter) have to reactivate your phone after rooting and installing a custom ROM? I'd rather not have to re-activate my phone every time I want to update a ROM or change to a different ROM.
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I used rom manager to load apeX 1.3.1 and did not need to #228. I did not clear the user data or cache, but I do not know if that affected my results or not. Your mileage may vary.
stpvapor said:
Thank all of you for the great info. Here's what I've learned after a day of rooting and romming: titanium freezes apps only in the paid version, z4 was the most user friendly app for rooting noobs, milestone overclock works well if you have the patience to lock up your phone several times finding the right settings, and I'm digging apeX 1.3.1. Thx to everyone for your help, i will definately be checking here frequently. One last question: where might i find a side by side comparo of roms with things like features and memory footprint, etc.? Or am I asking for too much. Im not scared of the search button, but i will defer to the more experienced of you. Thanks again.
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I don't know that anyone has really done a side by side per say. Since you say you are apeX, then if you are looking for more ROM's that contain blur features, then I would recommend looking into ZapX Bazinga, or Fusion (from the same creator as Fission, but just with blur). I have not worked with any of the Blur ROM's so far...
If you are looking for ROM's that do not have blur, then the big ones are Liberty, Fission 2.5.7, GummyJar 2.5, and Rubix Focused 1.9.5. Liberty is the big one right now, because it just came out and combines the great talents of Kejar31 and Jrummy. Most others I believe are using Fission. All are great choices, as the dev's do some AMAZING work.
Each has their owns unique feel...so I woudl recommend just digging through each thread for their respective ROM's as they usually include what components are built into each ROM on the original post of each thread.
Hope this helps somewhat =)
another ROM to try is DarkSlide. It comes in both flavors, Blurred & Blurless. It's fast, stable & well supported. You only have to re-activate if you wind up bricking your phone & have to flash an SBF. My advice it to spend the $$ on DroidXBootstrapper (available in the market) to make a nandroid backup prior to flashing your new ROM. This way you have a base to go back to in the event you run into problems, or want to try multiple ROMS. One other suggestion is to rename each backup into something that will let you know what the backup actually is, like StockROMBU or the like.

ROM tool box better than ROM manager?

So i was browsing market apps yesterday and ran across ROM toolbox (formerly Liberty toolbox).
After downloading it I was amazed at how much more functionality and options it brings to the table when compared to ROM manager.
Basic Comparison:
ROM MANAGER
Flash CWM
Reboot into Recovery
Install Rom from SD Card
Download Roms and Check for Updates
Install from QR Code
Manage and Restore backups
Nandroid backup
Fix permissions
Partition Sd Card
Pro Price: $5.99
ROM TOOLBOX
Download Roms and Check for Update
Install Rom from SD Card
Manage and Create Nandroid backups
Wipe Cache Data Dalvik and battery stats
Change battery Icon and System Fonts
data and system app manager (unisntall , freeze, clear cache etc
app backup and restore
Batch apk install
Set min/ max CPU frequency
Scaling governor ( performance/powersave)
Sysctl config
Minimum free memory taskiller will keep
Zip align system and data apps
Fix permissions
Run custom scripts
Mount /system as writable
Block ads via hosts file (who doesn't like this)!
Enable disable boot animation
File manager, Change LCD density, Change VM heap size
Change wifi scan interval
More stuff that I skipped
Pro Price: $5.00
In a nut shell, its like ROM manager combined with ad free, titanium backup, set CPU, and root explorer for only $5.00
I know people around here think that ROM manager is the best thing since sliced bread but was curious to see you guys opinions on ROM toolbox.
Anyone have the pro version??
Your right...it rocks!!! It can even enable powersave on setcpu!!!
Agreed, will definitely purchase the pro version.
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So you're comparing apples to oranges, I don't see the point.
ROM Manager is an application designed to flash zips, install ROMs and make full nandroid backups from inside Android using CWM recovery.
ROM Toolbox looks like a set of tools that might be useful if you're rooted or using a custom ROM.
turl1 said:
So you're comparing apples to oranges, I don't see the point.
ROM Manager is an application designed to flash zips, install ROMs and make full nandroid backups from inside Android using CWM recovery.
ROM Toolbox looks like a set of tools that might be useful if you're rooted or using a custom ROM.
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Actually no, ROM toolbox makes nandroid backups and flashes ROMs too, only with a lot more options and functionality. So its apples to apples my friend.. Or oranges to oranges
Looking in https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jrummy.liberty.toolbox it's supposed to be able to flash ROMs too hmm
Just downloaded it, nice...
Has anyone tried Root Toolbox. There is a free and a pro version.
Looks like a great app.
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Both are very useful because of total different Apps. But you could compare Absolute System Tool and Root Toolbox
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Phones : Motorola Backflip Cyanogenmod 7.1 & Motorola Atrix Cherry Blur
Thanks for reminding me about this. I had found it before we had the unlocked boot loader and most of the options weren't applicable yet. I am definitely going to go grab this right up.
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I am glad you guys have found this useful. I will update the OP later with a side by side comparison for the non-believers..
If anyone bought the pro version I would like to know the differences between it and the the free because I am certainly contemplating buying it myself.
I downloaded it to try it out, but it turns out I'm missing busybox.
I'm rooted on stock 2.3.4, unlocked bl.
I thought the Atrix came with its own busybox installation, or am I wrong? I seem to recall something posted by designgears that it had it in its stock rom.
If not, would installing busybox from the market be safe?
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I downloaded it to try it out, but it turns out I'm missing busybox.
I'm rooted on stock 2.3.4, unlocked bl.
I thought the Atrix came with its own busybox installation, or am I wrong? I seem to recall something posted by designgears that it had it in its stock rom.
If not, would installing busybox from the market be safe?
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I dont think stock ROM comes with busybox.
But you should be fine downloading "busybox installer" from the market. Mine is installed to /system/bin and everything works great.
The creator of ROM toolbox also has a busybox installer app. Get the one by jrummy
Either or:
https://market.android.com/details?id=stericson.busybox&feature=search_result
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jrummy.busybox.installer&feature=search_result
Both Busybox are alright to use.
Wow, toolbox is great. Im thinking about getting pro with my next paycheck. Any feedback from anyone with it would be greatly appreciated.
Mobile Glowy Atrix.
ya I have the pro.... haven't done to much with it yet cause I Do Not have my Boot Loader Unlocked so I've been cautious on what I try.. I know that Rom manager is mainly for an unlocked boot, I have backed up my apps and changed my system fonts, don't no if I can back up my rom or not..... here's a pic of my font
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ya I have the pro.... haven't done to much with it yet cause I Do Not have my Boot Loader Unlocked so I've been cautious on what I try.. I know that Rom manager is mainly for an unlocked boot, I have backed up my apps and changed my system fonts, don't no if I can back up my rom or not..... here's a pic of my font
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Are there any features included in the pro version that are not in the free version?? Just curious, but it looks like I'm going to purchase it either way.
Also, what are you waiting for???? get to unlocking that bootloader !
Its a great application and the dev is fantastic. The bad thing can't download ATRIX roms yet because it isn't supported fully.
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Rom toolbox is great but what is the one thing you need for flashing roms... Let's see uh RECOVERY, which rom toolbox doesn't give you so it really is comparing apples to oranges
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It's more like comparing the features that utilizes "Recovery" because you don't need Rom Manager to get recovery either. Actually, the fine people here at XDA had a working recovery before Rom Manager's CWM was working on the Atrix.
The beautiful part about this is we all can make our own choices.
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Rom toolbox is great but what is the one thing you need for flashing roms... Let's see uh RECOVERY, which rom toolbox doesn't give you so it really is comparing apples to oranges
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