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Some Conclusions

Dear all
It is my lunch break!! So I have some free time to post some conclusions I reach them after reading many threads in many forms regarding the HD2 t-mobile.
Whenever you looked, there were people says, DON’T do that it will break your device it will burn the motherboard, you will lose it forever it will died, etc..
For a moment, I am scared and changed my mind to get this device!!(I had an universal HD2 for about 3 months and sold it to get the t-mobile because of the RAM and ROM).
It is so simple, my understanding is as follows:
The MAIN/MAJOR problem is the radio, DON’T TRY TO INSTALL ANY RADIO contain the number 51, and/or STOCK HTC ROM for any language because usually the radio is included on that.
You can do the HSPL simply and you can flash it with any custom rom designed for HD2 (noting that there is some rom designed for t-mobile supports the additional/hidden RAM size ) and the rest will treat your device as a normal HD2 512 RAM. READ CAREFULLY IF THE ROM INCLUDED A RADIO.
For Android, you can install whatever you want, because they are depending on SD card and don’t use any windows/rom files.
There are my simple thoughts in this respect, if I am wrong in any part please correct me, because this what I am planning to do with my device, once its arrived (within a few days).
SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH, I HOPE IT WOULD BE BETTER in the next time

Yes, you are correct. For the most part any ROM will work on the T-Mobile HD2 EXCEPT for official HTC or other carrier ROMs besides T-Mobile USA ones. And yes, flashing a radio with XX.XX.51.XX WILL brick your device and it will be unuseable. Just read the stickies and play it safe. If you don't feel comfortable with a step, DO NOT DO IT until you have either read enough to feel confident or asked someone. Hope that helps!

[Q] How well does WP7 work?

Hey,
My iPhone has died so I am looking to buy cheap phone whilst I wait for decent WP7 phone to come out this year.
I was wondering how well does Windows 7 work on HD2? Any lag? Do major features like GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi, etc work properly? Finally, any of you guys use Windows Phone 7 as your day to day OS?
I couldn't find these answers so I apologise if these have been asked recently.
Thanks.

Basically, everything works. Camera lighting is off, sound is a too loud (at 2/30 sounds like its at 25/30). Very snappy, looks good on the HD2.

Pretty tempted myself especially since I just read about dual booting WP7 and Android (Froyo presumably). It's the only phone to allow that, right?
Price is still pretty high though, $480 at Amazon and eBay is a bit of a maze on finding a nice one.

I use it full time for a few week now (DFT rom) and I am real happy. Everything works well, and looks great.
Got all the features working (activation, live, marketplace, GPS, Navigon, Custum ringtones, etc.). Things already said that need to be fixed are: battery leak, 3G data leak, volume, camera (no focus, green with flash).
But above all: I will NEVER go back to wm6.5 (if I don't need to). I LOVE IT ! Respect to DFT.

My HD2 works with WP7 like its a native WP7-Phone.
You can fix the battery issue by installing 2.12 Radio ROM (3G slower)
And you can fix 3G Connection by installing 2.15 Radio ROM (Battery weaker)
Just as you need more, you can choose.
Volume is maybe a little bit high, but i like it. Now at least i can hear my phone when it rings ^^. You can use the Autofocus by changing in video mode, autofocus is sharpening picture, change back to photo mode and take the picture. You can get the green colour away by downloading HTC Photo Optimizer from the Market (free) and choose the option which looks best.
WP7 is great <3

WP7 on HD2 has been a successful "try before you buy" for me. Even if it gets wanked after the next update I will probably go with a "real" HD7. The potential for this OS is awesome. I think MS (and the devs) have only scratched the surface.

I just went to compare an HD7 with my Leo70 - and even sales people were stunned. It feels the same, it looks the same, speed is same... well, no wonder, hardware-wise, they are on par, aren´t they?
Since there is no other device comparable to the multi-OS capable HD2, I will keep that device at least for another season... means, I will be using it at least until the successors of HD7/Omnia 7 will be launched AND successful on the market. I won´t buy the first series though, as I did with HD2, to avoid the mass field test phase of HTC and Microsoft...

loving it too.... and actually thinking of getting the real hd7
only thing that i dont really love.. is the integration of social networks and contacts in the same place...oh oops and the non ability to use the myphone service...sucks

You can turn off social contacts in your phonebook by turning it off in Settings, Applications (swipe left) > Contacts ^^
And the HD2 and HD7 are actually the same, only little diiferences, but nothing that matters really... And when I'm getting enough of WP7 I can change back to another OS whenever I want (but I think i will stick with WP7 ^^)

I am loving WP 7. I will alos upgrade if they disable it after the next upgrade. It works wonderfully on the HD2. Here's praying Microsoft will relent to the pressure and give us an official upgrade to our beloved HD2. (I know I'm dreaming)

lhernana2j said:
I will alos upgrade if they disable it after the next upgrade.
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Don't encourage them. Some of us don't have the money to throw at phones every year

That does it, WP7+Android 2.2, I am now on a quest to find a used HD2! If anyone has tips ;-)

webvan said:
That does it, WP7+Android 2.2, I am now on a quest to find a used HD2! If anyone has tips ;-)
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There are so many people that think the HD2 is 2 years old and they have to buy a new one. So many people who don't even know what they can get out of their HD2. That's your chance. Look in eBay or other sites where people can sell their used phones. I also bought a used HD2 1 month before for 180€ and that price is more than fair

Yes that's a good price, hope I'll find one for that price too! Will check eBay...

Try the Marketplace you can always find someone selling a htc hd2 there, i'd make sure you get a tmobile htc hd2, not the Euro verision as it runs low on memory.

Good idea, are there any 3G bandwidth issues with the HD2 though, T-Mobile means 1700 and 2100 I think, AT&T is 850 or 1900 and Europe is 1900 or 2100.

They are giving them away frr for new users.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Default.aspx?uid=Shop_1_1

Thanks, can't go for a two-year contract, but $360 may not be too bad for refurbished device...except I can't seem to find it without a plan, hum...
It does have UMTS 2100Mhz, so that's good for Europe, also UMTS : AWS, not sure what that is.

I went back to wm 6.5
Wp7 is great but it ****ed up alot...
couldn't watch more than any video, be it netflix or youtube for more than 5 minutes...
phone froze if i used games for more than 7 minutes...
the back got really hot
whats really annoying is during boot up it would restarts like 5 times after gogogo screen....but it never reached the dft logo...when it reached the dft logo, it meant it would boot, but it still kept crashing

WP7 on HD2 is amazing, a real THANX to DFT Team,they always do good work.
i use WP7 for daily usage and it works well, Just need to improve some things that will come with next update (i hope). Im glade of this new os.

Buying HD2 from craigslist. What should I look for?

As noted in the title.
I plan on buying a HD2 for the sole purpose of Android only. Besides cosmetic issues, what should I look for? Are there any software updates or flashing that has resulted in a point of no return (ie preventing one from flashing Android)? Let me know!

Get a T-Mobile US HD2, they have more ROM memory than the Europeans. Way better for running Android on.
-HD2 Android-

huggs said:
Get a T-Mobile US HD2, they have more ROM memory than the Europeans. Way better for running Android on.
-HD2 Android-
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thanks for the tip. since i live in the US, this shouldn't be a problem at all

If you're only going to use it for android, why buy an hd2 then? It certainly isn't better than any 1ghz android device out there, and some of the bugs (if you expereince any), may stifle you.
You might as well buy an android phone instead since it runs better with prolly less problems, excluding the samsung galaxy s series. (N.B. an android phone will prolly only run better after you've rooted it, tweaked, and maybe flashed a custom rom)
Anyways, other than getting a tmous hd2, that's about it I guess. Everything is reversible, from going back to android, to winmo, to WP7. You just have to read, and be able to know your device.

its likely cheaper to purchase a hd2 rather than a smartphone with android pre-loaded, since many people have had frustrations with windows mobile as the stock OS (that was me when I first got the phone) and are willing to get rid of it for fairly cheap.
1-2 months after the phone came out, craigslist was full of ads of people trying to sell their hd2. at first, i regretted not selling mine the day it came out (could've gotten $400+ for it), but now that I have gingerbread on it, it performs a lot better, except for the GPS, which is completely non-functional, but I'm hoping that will get fixed soon. if GPS is an important function on your phone, I'd suggest sticking to winmo for the time being.

andrewz182 said:
its likely cheaper to purchase a hd2 rather than a smartphone with android pre-loaded, since many people have had frustrations with windows mobile as the stock OS (that was me when I first got the phone) and are willing to get rid of it for fairly cheap.
1-2 months after the phone came out, craigslist was full of ads of people trying to sell their hd2. at first, i regretted not selling mine the day it came out (could've gotten $400+ for it), but now that I have gingerbread on it, it performs a lot better, except for the GPS, which is completely non-functional, but I'm hoping that will get fixed soon. if GPS is an important function on your phone, I'd suggest sticking to winmo for the time being.
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That's just you, man. 90% of us have gps working fine.
I say if you can get a deal on it go for it (in my area, 150 is what I consider a deal). If the cost difference between this and, say, a mytouch 4g is less than a hundred or sitting at a hundred, just go for the mytouch. I broke my first hd2 a couple months ago, and I was about to pull the trigger on a mytouch, when someone popped up with a hd2 for 180. I negotiated him down to 140 and that was that.
Just my opinion though. They're both outstanding phones
Edit: sorry, that was off topic. Any software the hd2 comes with (stock, modded, whatever) can be flashed over very easily. I have had experience with some hd2s not working correctly. They get slow, laggy, start force closing, etc when running android, but this isn't something you can "look out for". Just have to find out I guess.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Kailkti said:
If you're only going to use it for android, why buy an hd2 then? It certainly isn't better than any 1ghz android device out there, and some of the bugs (if you expereince any), may stifle you.
You might as well buy an android phone instead since it runs better with prolly less problems, excluding the samsung galaxy s series. (N.B. an android phone will prolly only run better after you've rooted it, tweaked, and maybe flashed a custom rom)
Anyways, other than getting a tmous hd2, that's about it I guess. Everything is reversible, from going back to android, to winmo, to WP7. You just have to read, and be able to know your device.
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Hi there. Yes, you bring up a very good question. The reason why is because I am a T-mobile user with a very old, grandfathered $3 unlimited data plan. However, this data plan only works for certain phones, HD2 being one of them. The Nexus One works with the data plan as well, but I sold it after getting tired of its multi-touch issues.

Kailkti said:
Anyways, other than getting a tmous hd2, that's about it I guess. Everything is reversible, from going back to android, to winmo, to WP7. You just have to read, and be able to know your device.
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Thank you. So there are no radio flashes that will send you over to dead man's land?

If you have HSPL installed on your device, no flashing will kill your device.

nexus14 said:
Thank you. So there are no radio flashes that will send you over to dead man's land?
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If you just know how to read and follow instructions, there in way you can't get things working.
I got my hd2 from craigslist for 200 but was only used less than a week. Got everything including receipt. Same for my daughter but was an older buy so I got it for 150.
Sent from my HD2 Droid HD using XDA App

Oh btw, the HD2's multi touch isn't perfect either. Whether or not the HD2 has support. hardware wise, for more than two fingers is irrelevant right now, as android on the HD2, WP7, and winmo, only enables us to use two fingers.
With WP7, multi touch is horrible. With android two fingers max, but the fingers mustn't be, i think, vertically or was it horizontally aligned with one another, one of them, I can't remember which. Pinching and zooming works fine, even with that problem, however in gaming, you'll notice it, and it may irk you.
With winmo i'm not sure, as I haven't actually played around with winmo much other than flash custom roms for the sake of flashing cuz I'm addicted to it.

jose makalolot said:
If you just know how to read and follow instructions, there in way you can't get things working.
I got my hd2 from craigslist for 200 but was only used less than a week. Got everything including receipt. Same for my daughter but was an older buy so I got it for 150.
Sent from my HD2 Droid HD using XDA App
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Okay, good to know.
Prices are similar where I live, 200-250. I am sure I can get down to 150 since there's 15+ new posts/day

Kailkti said:
Oh btw, the HD2's multi touch isn't perfect either. Whether or not the HD2 has support. hardware wise, for more than two fingers is irrelevant right now, as android on the HD2, WP7, and winmo, only enables us to use two fingers.
With WP7, multi touch is horrible. With android two fingers max, but the fingers mustn't be, i think, vertically or was it horizontally aligned with one another, one of them, I can't remember which. Pinching and zooming works fine, even with that problem, however in gaming, you'll notice it, and it may irk you.
With winmo i'm not sure, as I haven't actually played around with winmo much other than flash custom roms for the sake of flashing cuz I'm addicted to it.
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Thanks for the info. I have already researched on this topic and if you go back to my old posts, you'll see that HD2 multi-touch with Android is better than the Nexus One multi-touch. Gaming is not an issue since I don't plan on gaming on my device.

nexus14 said:
As noted in the title.
I plan on buying a HD2 for the sole purpose of Android only. Besides cosmetic issues, what should I look for? Are there any software updates or flashing that has resulted in a point of no return (ie preventing one from flashing Android)? Let me know!
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This was only briefly touched on, but the importance of a Tmobile unit is critical for more reasons than just the amount of available RAM. The hardware which defines the radio frequency (specifically, data) differs. For example, I'm running an Australian (Telstra) T9193 on AT&T because the 3G band is the same, so I get HSDPA speeds on a device that was never intended to be used on this network. Though a Tmobile unit would work for voice on my network, I'd be SOL for data.
So, since you've said in a prior post you're a Tmobile customer, be certain the model you're getting is a Tmobile unit, which I believe is a T8585, if I'm not mistaken. Even though you COULD flash Android to a unit with less RAM (as I'm doing with mine), you'd risk not having it work for data if you get the wrong model.
Can't speak to how many times one can flash, but I'm up to dozens of times with various WM and Android ROMs and radio combinations with no ill effects. Well, none I'm aware of, anyway.

BillTheCat said:
This was only briefly touched on, but the importance of a Tmobile unit is critical for more reasons than just the amount of available RAM. The hardware which defines the radio frequency (specifically, data) differs. For example, I'm running an Australian (Telstra) T9193 on AT&T because the 3G band is the same, so I get HSDPA speeds on a device that was never intended to be used on this network. Though a Tmobile unit would work for voice on my network, I'd be SOL for data.
So, since you've said in a prior post you're a Tmobile customer, be certain the model you're getting is a Tmobile unit, which I believe is a T8585, if I'm not mistaken. Even though you COULD flash Android to a unit with less RAM (as I'm doing with mine), you'd risk not having it work for data if you get the wrong model.
Can't speak to how many times one can flash, but I'm up to dozens of times with various WM and Android ROMs and radio combinations with no ill effects. Well, none I'm aware of, anyway.
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Thanks. Is there a way to "fake" the model #? I doubt the people I meet are going to be this shady since most of the people I talked to still have it on Windows Mobile 6.5

[Q] Difference between HD2 t-mobile version and HD2 european version

I will be buying a HD2 soon and was wondering what the difference (if any) in performance between the 2?
And say if I wanted to dual boot android and wp7 if there would be any performance issues?
The difference with the frequency bands is not an issue for me.

tmous is easier to make a mistake and brick, and the regular hd2 has more range of available roms. other than that you shouldn't see any difference.

samsamuel said:
tmous is easier to make a mistake and brick, and the regular hd2 has more range of available roms. other than that you shouldn't see any difference.
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I thought that's the other way around. the TMOUS version has more roms and not so easy to brick.
to the OP, the band they used is different. the size is bigger on the TMOUS version. the rom size is twice as big as the international version.

coldest~~~ said:
I thought that's the other way around. the TMOUS version has more roms and not so easy to brick.
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regular hd2 can take any rom any radio, but the tmous hd2 hangs with non tmous roms, and dies permanently with non tmous radios.
There are very very few (half a dozen, maybe) roms that say specifically FOR tmous, and they are android roms that make use of the extra rom space rather than an sd card ext partition. these roms would still work on regular hd2, and most of them have two flavours, regular and tmous, with the difference being the use of sd card EXT.
On the flip side, there are loads of roms that say specifically NOT for tmous (winmo roms that don't have a tmous base)
And thats not counting the stock roms, there are dozens of stock roms, all the languages and networks and regions and such like, tmous cant touch any of them, except the three or four tmous specific ones, instant death if it tries.
summary, regular hd2 can use every radio and 99.5% of all roms, tmous can use 50% of radios, risks instant death if it touches the wrong radio, and can only use around 60% of the roms.
victory to the regular hd2 in my eyes hehe, not worth the hassle just for an extra 512 meg rom.

samsamuel said:
regular hd2 can take any rom any radio, but the tmous hd2 hangs with non tmous roms, and dies permanently with non tmous radios.
There are very very few (half a dozen, maybe) roms that say specifically FOR tmous, and they are android roms that make use of the extra rom space rather than an sd card ext partition. these roms would still work on regular hd2, and most of them have two flavours, regular and tmous, with the difference being the use of sd card EXT.
On the flip side, there are loads of roms that say specifically NOT for tmous (winmo roms that don't have a tmous base)
And thats not counting the stock roms, there are dozens of stock roms, all the languages and networks and regions and such like, tmous cant touch any of them, except the three or four tmous specific ones, instant death if it tries.
summary, regular hd2 can use every radio and 99.5% of all roms, tmous can use 50% of radios, risks instant death if it touches the wrong radio, and can only use around 60% of the roms.
victory to the regular hd2 in my eyes hehe, not worth the hassle just for an extra 512 meg rom.
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Hey Samsamuel I found your post very informative. I am not trying to say I do not believe you cause I very much do. But I was wondering if this is information you have learned through just your personal research and use of the HD2 or if you could post a link or links to some of this information. Cause I would really like to learn more about it being I have a TMOUS HD2. Any futher info on this would be highly appreciated.

Its all just from reading and being a natural tinkerer, and a keen interest in helping problem solve, plus reading everything, whether it seems like an interesting topic or not. come every day for a month, and read all the new threads, and you'll see there are about 10 main problems, and each time you answer it it gets a little more ingrained hehe,.
If i were to post any link it wouldnt be any particular thread it would be
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
start your search with hd2 and you wont go far wrong.
The info is all here, most of it several dozen times over,, its just a bit like looking for a needle in a needle-stack.

[Q] Super fast android

Hi All
Where to find super-fast and fault-free android rom
For months, I follow
I can not have left the android applications
Windows Mobile applications, disgrace
Now follow the things that makes me sick
Are Sense, though not
Instead of judging me
Like the guy recommending ?
Do not write empty words, criticism, unnecessary things
I have a business life
and the need to android
My bad english sory (Google translate)
My HTC HD2 EU version Low Ram Low Rom
Sell ​​my HTC ? and I take buy T-Mobile HD2 ??
For all unhappy brodhers...

Hi
The faster sd ROM I ever seen is the one from Dandiest v4.31.44.12 (quadrant score up to 2900)

I'm very happy with MccM MixTheme V1.1 HTC Sense.Iphone.ICS.Stable Miui base[GB 2.3.7]... Very fast, stable, almost perfect

Fastest I saw is AmericanAndroid,
But I didn't try the 2 others above.

At the last question, do not buy a T-Mobile HD2. Instead buy a larger SDHC (MicroSD) card, for increased storage and the T-Mo HD2 doesn't offer a significant RAM improvement. Finally, there is a larger risk of bricking a T-Mobile HD2, as you may accidentally flash an incompatible radio.

Hi Nigeldg
Are you sure
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Why ?

Team 16GB Class 6 cards using But the boot is very slow and uneven
A friend of mine got the T-Mobile
T-Mobile Quick Boot
and My EU HTC HD2 Removed to Micro Sd cards, system halted stack owerflov
Sdex partition offf I'm tired

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Hi Nigeldg
Are you sure
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Apologies, but I don't quite understand what you mean. this is a quick summary of the differences between the two HD2 models, it shows that there are very few differences between them.
cayhanaydin said:
Team 16GB Class 6 cards using But the boot is very slow and uneven
A friend of mine got the T-Mobile
T-Mobile Quick Boot
and My EU HTC HD2 Removed to Micro Sd cards, system halted stack owerflov
Sdex partition offf I'm tired
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I don't think this is related to the model version of your HD2. Perhaps the ROM is different or he has a better SD card (class 2 can sometimes be faster than class 6). Hope this helps

Try tytung's gingerbread rom on nand. It should be fast and stable. It's reliable and it works which is probably what you want for business.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060

Nigeldg said:
Apologies, but I don't quite understand what you mean. this is a quick summary of the differences between the two HD2 models, it shows that there are very few differences between them.
I don't think this is related to the model version of your HD2. Perhaps the ROM is different or he has a better SD card (class 2 can sometimes be faster than class 6). Hope this helps
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The US Model is much better for NAND due to the larger size. On my NRG ROM, it only works NAND on the US model; others have to use the SD card. And on my TMOUS, I have only about 150Mb RAM left after booting, so I personally like the extra 125mb that this model uses.

My (EU) HD2 installed to [4 Dec 11] [MULTILANG] Energy™ -.¸¸.·´¯ Sense 3.5 SensationXL! [Tweaks!] [RCMix ker]
and stable and quick but boot not quick and low ram
T-Mobile is broken, downgrade I've heard
yeah you think ???
I do not have much money
T-Mobile, with little money, the difference can be purchased at

You set your sys partions correctly and format sdcard and full wipe?
sent from my HTC NexusHD2 provided by Tytung

Many people says T-Mobile is brick
Why is that ?
Really ?
EU HD2 ? or T-Mobile HD2
This day I change my phone ?
My phone is EU HD2 and T-Mobile HD2 100$ difference
Sory my bad english

Don't change there is no need, only extra is memory nothing else. (Or so I believe) I have great belief that redux2 rom is the best and smoothest rom for the EU hd2 version 1.2 is my personal favourite only needing 60/5 partition lay out leaving plenty room for apps so no need for an ext partition on the SD.
Jr
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium

The anz realy depends on ur need. If u r an office man, and not going to spend much time in tweeking and moding ur phone, i recomend u a sense based rom which is already tweeked and boosted. For now u should use android 2.3.xx rom, as they are heavely supported and updated.miui latest build is also nice. Stable and eyecandy like ios.
If u do much more than the above, u should go for cyanogen based 2.3.xx roms. Be ware cm roms are highly open for devs and includes much more things. They may / maynot be stable( depends on build versions).
Any way, applying a super charger script to any rom boost its perfomance several times..
send from my hd2 @ miui 1.12.2

I´m using Runnymede Sense 3.5 build from NRGZ28 and im happy with this rom.
it´s "sense" and very fast in my opinion.

While I've used most of the above, the most STABLE I've witnessed is still NexusHD of Nov 06. Its in-built tethering is solid (unlike the MIUIs which almost always require 3rd party apps), 3g data is most stable especially in areas with rather spotty service (in comparison with the present most recent MIUIs = Jaguaralani, MCCM, etc). Its battery consumption is zero when not in use and in flight mode; when limited to 2g it is consistently very low in consumption on standby (< 5percent in 8-9 hours). Records and views 720p vids but, just like the MIUIs, can't record for longer than about 14min.

U the best rom I have found it
[Sense 3.5] Energy™ -.¸¸.·´¯ SensationXL/Runnymede
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733649
01.13.2012 is bad
I recommend 01.04.2012 lite very good but no weather animation
because weather animation is wrong run.
Sory my bad english.

If you want a fast rom, try aosp/cm7. I would recommend nexushd2 and hyperdroid. Stable, fast and a good battery life

kylew1212 said:
Try tytung's gingerbread rom on nand. It should be fast and stable. It's reliable and it works which is probably what you want for business.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
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Yep, I agree. This is the fastest SD rom I have tried on my phone. Everything is working and you should have no problems with it whatsoever.