Quick background... my original aim was to purchase a HD2 with the following:
1) an English UI that can also read/display Asian SMS, Internet, Music Player, File explorer etc (primiary Chinese only, but great to have Jap if possible)
2) Having the 3G 850Mhz Bandwidth
I am not a big fan of tweaking, especially hearing all the problems caused by CE-Star and other methods. Recently I'm pretty much convinced the HK Model of HD2 satisfy my requirement (1), but not (2). But seems to have both, I have to tweak.
I just found the following link and was wondering whether someone has tried it:
http://pocketnow.com/how-to/how-to-get-asian-characters-to-appear-on-non-asian-windows-phones
It gives more than just Chinese, from pocketnow which I think it's not a bad site, but other than bugs and problems, I am not sure if it applies only to the translation programs or actually everything, including SMS, Internet, Music Player, File Explorer etc... It would be great if someone tried could provide feedback, thanks heaps
squall09 said:
Quick background... my original aim was to purchase a HD2 with the following:
1) an English UI that can also read/display Asian SMS, Internet, Music Player, File explorer etc (primiary Chinese only, but great to have Jap if possible)
2) Having the 3G 850Mhz Bandwidth
I am not a big fan of tweaking, especially hearing all the problems caused by CE-Star and other methods. Recently I'm pretty much convinced the HK Model of HD2 satisfy my requirement (1), but not (2). But seems to have both, I have to tweak.
I just found the following link and was wondering whether someone has tried it:
http://pocketnow.com/how-to/how-to-get-asian-characters-to-appear-on-non-asian-windows-phones
It gives more than just Chinese, from pocketnow which I think it's not a bad site, but other than bugs and problems, I am not sure if it applies only to the translation programs or actually everything, including SMS, Internet, Music Player, File Explorer etc... It would be great if someone tried could provide feedback, thanks heaps
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Well, I promise this will be the last post I make in answering your questions, as you did not seem to appreciate my last answers to your posts in this thread.
But, the way you worded this post I think others may find a bit confusing.
For your first point, it seems to be clear, but I am sorry to say that I personally find it offensive that you refer the people and/or the langauge of Japan as Jap. Is that not considered to be a pejorative term in your country of residence? Sorry, I lived more than half of my life in Taiwan, now closing in on 60 faster than I wanted, and had many IT Japanese friends on the beautiful isle.
I assume now that since your country of residence employs the 3G 850Mhz band (perhaps bandwidth is not the word you wanted here) you are not in Taiwan, but the US or Australia.
I think most people on this forum would not consider flashing a stock HTC ROM or installing a program such as CE-Star as tweaking, so that may confuse some. Sorry again, I tend to be too literal, as I write and edit for IT companies through various PR companies (and that does include, among others, Microsoft, Adobe, HP, Sony, Trend Micro, ...). Now, at least you know where I was coming from in my answers.
If you want to know what the program you linked to can do, why not ask the company that produced or is selling it? Without researching the program, it is just my guess that your desires overshadow the actual capabilities of the program in terms of altering the core capabilities of the OS.
As you require a phone utilizing 3G 850Mhz, and want Chinese support in reading and writing, your simplest course of action is acquiring the HTC HD2 in your country of residence, and then flashing to the Asian English HTC ROM. I should warn you here again that flashing a phone in your region to another region's ROM, even though from HTC, will void your warranty. One other question for you now, as I see from another post that support for traditional Chinese seems limited in the Asian English ROM, are you looking for support for traditional or simplified Chinese?
From your posts, and choice of words, I guess you are fairly young, unfamiliar with and fear such things as flashing a ROM, installing a program, or tweaking Windows Mobile phones. But, you have to jump in somewhere and sometime, and this is the best place to do it if you want an HTC PDA phone that meets your needs. A healthy fear of such things can prevent you from bricking a phone when flashing or tweaking a phone as you are more apt to pay attention to crucial steps in the procedure!
I am indeed sorry if my answers to your other posts put you off. That is my fault, as I thought we were using a common terminology.
Good luck with your quest to find the perfect HTC HD2 phone.
I am not sure why you got the impression I did not appreciate your assistance. Maybe I should've said you were the one convinced me? I am sorry if I made you feel that way, but in fact, i found you were the most helpful in that thread, so thanks lots That thread talked much about 3rd party software (not my preference) or the English (Asia) ROM. My intention of this thread is simply asking if ppl have tried that.
Second apology about using "Jap" for Japanese. I had no intention of offensiveness, it's kind of norm here and lazy to type. I love Japan and have Japanese friends too, they don't find it offensive at all. Further, it's a norm where ever I've been people use Honky for HK, Sing for Singaporean, UK for Scottish, Aust/Aussie for Australian etc etc. Without going into political/cultural difference debate, I sincerely apologies if the use of "Jap" made you feel uncomfortable, my bad and laziness.
Not really understanding your sentence here:
"If you want to know what the program you linked to can do, why not ask the company that produced or is selling it? Without researching the program, it is just my guess that your desires overshadow the actual capabilities of the program in terms of altering the core capabilities of the OS."
As far as I've read from people's experience, other than flashing the entire ROM, installing CE-Star or tweak the register (or whatever terminology that is more technically correct) seems to not 100% solve the issue and also creates problem, instability. To me, it's understandable since installing software on PCs hinders its performance, so of course same with Mobile... hence my preference of not 'tweak' or install 3rd party softwares. This brings the point that although I agree the need to jump in and risk, but it's not really the fear that stops me doing so. In my opinion I can always hard reset if problem occur, but I really do not want to do that with phone at regular interval like formating a PC.
I totally agree that if I want both of my features to be satisfied, is to buy local (Australia) and flash the entire ROM to the English (Asia) ROM. Now this option was only made to my awareness when I confirmed the HK version of HD2 is capable of reading Chinese (btw, it's Traditional Chinese I want, so this should be fine). I understand this can be done now, but with non-official-HTC ROM. (correct me if I am wrong).
The other problem is of course price. The phone is not officially out here, but it's expected to be at least 50% more expensive. The old HD model is selling here almost twice the current HD2 model in HK. So even though I now seem have the option of flash local model with Asia ROM, I have to factor in the steep price difference vs. ability of using 850Mhz (as oppose to 2100Mhz).
I do not think you've put me off or anything, I totally found your posts great with total appreciation. And I sincerely apologise if my wording is offensive to you, it was not the intention at all. Thanks once again for your assistance
Now you're offended people from another 3 areas
Honky for HK, Sing for Singaporean, UK for Scottish, Aust/Aussie for Australian
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Apologise or suffer.
I apologise... I am sorry... don't punish me
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I apologise... I am sorry... don't punish me
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Don't bother apologising - you're being teased
Haven't tried the link you mentioned but to get Asian fonts to display on English (or whatever) windows mobile you just need the right fonts, and to set the default font to be that. Personally I've been using Asukal's brilliant Japanese Support cab to display Japanese characters on my phone, since I listen to loads of Jpop and me wife's Japanese
Anyways here's a quick and dirty useful google link to get you started. Glanced at it, mentions something about CJK so that should have you covered: http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=217045
EDIT: Note that this doesn't mean you can definitely write in Chinese. Plus Sense still won't recognise the Asian characters for some weird reason (at least the music player anyways)
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EDIT: Note that this doesn't mean you can definitely write in Chinese. Plus Sense still won't recognise the Asian characters for some weird reason (at least the music player anyways)
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You mention music player won't recgnise Asian charac's, does that include if you flash with Asian ROM? I would be pretty surprised if the Chinese ROM can't read chinese, then the music player for Taiwanese model is practically useless isn't it??
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You mention music player won't recgnise Asian charac's, does that include if you flash with Asian ROM? I would be pretty surprised if the Chinese ROM can't read chinese, then the music player for Taiwanese model is practically useless isn't it??
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You see, I'm not using an Asian English ROM Maybe that one allows you to display CJK properly, maybe not. The resources I posted earlier basically allow you to at least see CJK characters, something not possible before without something like cestar (or whatever that prog was called.. can't remember now)
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I am not sure why you got the impression I did not appreciate your assistance. Maybe I should've said you were the one convinced me? I am sorry if I made you feel that way, but in fact, i found you were the most helpful in that thread, so thanks lots That thread talked much about 3rd party software (not my preference) or the English (Asia) ROM. My intention of this thread is simply asking if ppl have tried that.
Second apology about using "Jap" for Japanese. I had no intention of offensiveness, it's kind of norm here and lazy to type. I love Japan and have Japanese friends too, they don't find it offensive at all. Further, it's a norm where ever I've been people use Honky for HK, Sing for Singaporean, UK for Scottish, Aust/Aussie for Australian etc etc. Without going into political/cultural difference debate, I sincerely apologies if the use of "Jap" made you feel uncomfortable, my bad and laziness.
Not really understanding your sentence here:
"If you want to know what the program you linked to can do, why not ask the company that produced or is selling it? Without researching the program, it is just my guess that your desires overshadow the actual capabilities of the program in terms of altering the core capabilities of the OS."
As far as I've read from people's experience, other than flashing the entire ROM, installing CE-Star or tweak the register (or whatever terminology that is more technically correct) seems to not 100% solve the issue and also creates problem, instability. To me, it's understandable since installing software on PCs hinders its performance, so of course same with Mobile... hence my preference of not 'tweak' or install 3rd party softwares. This brings the point that although I agree the need to jump in and risk, but it's not really the fear that stops me doing so. In my opinion I can always hard reset if problem occur, but I really do not want to do that with phone at regular interval like formating a PC.
I totally agree that if I want both of my features to be satisfied, is to buy local (Australia) and flash the entire ROM to the English (Asia) ROM. Now this option was only made to my awareness when I confirmed the HK version of HD2 is capable of reading Chinese (btw, it's Traditional Chinese I want, so this should be fine). I understand this can be done now, but with non-official-HTC ROM. (correct me if I am wrong).
The other problem is of course price. The phone is not officially out here, but it's expected to be at least 50% more expensive. The old HD model is selling here almost twice the current HD2 model in HK. So even though I now seem have the option of flash local model with Asia ROM, I have to factor in the steep price difference vs. ability of using 850Mhz (as oppose to 2100Mhz).
I do not think you've put me off or anything, I totally found your posts great with total appreciation. And I sincerely apologise if my wording is offensive to you, it was not the intention at all. Thanks once again for your assistance
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Apologies accepted, and I am gratified that you found some of my answers helpful. And, sorry if I jumped on your case too severely.
Actually, so far, no HardSPL has been developed for the HTC HD2, so the ROM that the guys in the other thread were flashing their Taiwan bought Chinese version HD2s to is the official HTC ROM version that comes with the English version of the phone that is being sold in Hong Kong.
What HardSPL does is allow one to flash to an unsigned ROM, or, in other words, a cooked ROM. So, if you flash with the ROM mentioned in that post, you can be assured it is a stock ROM from HTC.
Unfortunately, if someone does something foolish while flashing a phone, such as using the wrong ROM for the phone, it is entirely possible to turn your phone into an expensive brick that no amount of hard resets will cure, so caution is always advised. It has been done too many times in the past by too many people.
What I meant about the program you linked to is it most likely will not be able to give you all the functionality you want in the phone. I did follow the link for you, and what it actually is is a cab file for sunglobe's cab that installs traditional Chinese fonts on a WinMo phone. I have sunglobe's fonts on my older HTC phone, and can view Chinese with no problem.
As stated in other posts in this thread, if these fonts work well with the HTC HD2s new capacitive screen remains to be seen, and finding a software keyboard that could use those fonts and be compatible with the new screen technology may really be problematic. You might end up with being able to read most of what you want in Chinese on the phone, but not being able to type.
The 3G band problem surely is your hardest hurdle to jump over, as with recent HTC phones it has not been possible to do anything to enable more bands. That is a real bummer that makes these phones truly not worldwide. If you did not care about 3G data speeds, you could get the phone from Hong Kong,with no need to flash, but you would be limited to GSM speeds with data.
I held the HTC HD2 in my own eager hands last Saturday when I went to my carrier to pay my bill. If I had not recently spent a fair amount of money upgrading my computer............. The hardware is really stunning.
great to know apologies accepted, I really did not intend to be offensive or lack or appreciation.
Firstly, if I use incorrect terminology, I apologise as I am no expert in all this, so do excuse me if I do not follow exactly your knowledge when it comes to Flash, tweak etc.
So maybe to clarify...
1) HardSPL sounds to me equivalence of formatting your PC HDD and do a clean install of Windows;
2) Contrast, flashing a ROM is similar, but without formatting the HDD, bit like reinstall Window but no format. Am I on right track here?
3) HardSPL is official from HTC or phone provider; ROM can be official or non-official
4) Both HardSPL and ROM are like *.exe files and can be installed via PC once you d/l the file to PC
Hopefully my understanding is right. Assume yes, then I think the best way is for me to buy Australia's model (still waiting on price/release date) and flash the English (Asia) HardSPL or ROM.
My concern is, does the HardSPL or ROM have to match the locality of your phone? i.e. if I buy Australia, I have to use Australian ROM?
thanks.
squall09 said:
great to know apologies accepted, I really did not intend to be offensive or lack or appreciation.
Firstly, if I use incorrect terminology, I apologise as I am no expert in all this, so do excuse me if I do not follow exactly your knowledge when it comes to Flash, tweak etc.
So maybe to clarify...
1) HardSPL sounds to me equivalence of formatting your PC HDD and do a clean install of Windows;
2) Contrast, flashing a ROM is similar, but without formatting the HDD, bit like reinstall Window but no format. Am I on right track here?
3) HardSPL is official from HTC or phone provider; ROM can be official or non-official
4) Both HardSPL and ROM are like *.exe files and can be installed via PC once you d/l the file to PC
Hopefully my understanding is right. Assume yes, then I think the best way is for me to buy Australia's model (still waiting on price/release date) and flash the English (Asia) HardSPL or ROM.
My concern is, does the HardSPL or ROM have to match the locality of your phone? i.e. if I buy Australia, I have to use Australian ROM?
thanks.
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You are getting closer! Don't worry about not understanding all the terminology in the beginning. It is really hard to get it all down unless you actually have the hardware at hand to experiment with.
Whenever you flash a ROM it is just like a clean install of an OS on a computer. Think of it as installing Windows 7 on a computer with Windows XP. All your settings and programs are gone, but you have a shiny new operating system.
Sometimes it is a problem flashing to a new ROM issued by HTC because of the CID, or country identification. Without some wizardry, you would not be able to install the official HTC English Asian ROM on a phone you buy in Australia. This problem has been solved, so if you do buy the phone in Australia now you can be assured that you can flash to the official HTC ROM you need with Chinese support.
What HardSPL does is allow you to flash a ROM that is not issued by HTC, and, if I am not incorrect, also easily allows you to overcome the CID problem all in one step.
So, as you can guess, HardSPL is not from HTC and it is not something that HTC or carriers are particularly fond of, to say the least.
Don't worry about not understanding all of this at once. It is great that you know now what you want, and are asking the right questions.
Despite the cost, to get the right 3G bands, and the Chinese support, I think you are on the right track now with buying the phone in Australia and flashing to the official HTC English ROM.
What part of Australia are you in? One of my former students is a constable in Melbourne.
So it sounds like to me Flashing a ROM is the same as HardSPL.... except one checks the origin of your phone (bit like how some MS apps checks your hardware).
Now excuse my ignorance, but bit confused by your 3rd paragraph:
"Sometimes it is a problem flashing to a new ROM issued by HTC because of the CID, or country identification. Without some wizardry, you would not be able to install the official HTC English Asian ROM on a phone you buy in Australia. This problem has been solved, so if you do buy the phone in Australia now you can be assured that you can flash to the official HTC ROM you need with Chinese support."
I am confused because first you indicated potential of CID issue, and hence the need of 'hack'. But you then said this problem has been solved. So isn't then ROM and HardSPL are identical? Really sorry about my lack of knowledge, but just can't distinguish between the two yet... other than the fact HardSPL is unofficial, and ROM can be either official or non-official
Well, at this stage I still have to wait till Australia get the release of the phone. As far as I've seen in the past, the telecom in Australia will 'customise' the phone a bit, so I am really hoping I can still flash the English (Asia) ROM from HTCpedia. I've been told to backup as soon as I get the phone so I can restore to 'telecom factory setting' if need arise.
thanks once again
squall09 said:
So it sounds like to me Flashing a ROM is the same as HardSPL.... except one checks the origin of your phone (bit like how some MS apps checks your hardware).
Now excuse my ignorance, but bit confused by your 3rd paragraph:
"Sometimes it is a problem flashing to a new ROM issued by HTC because of the CID, or country identification. Without some wizardry, you would not be able to install the official HTC English Asian ROM on a phone you buy in Australia. This problem has been solved, so if you do buy the phone in Australia now you can be assured that you can flash to the official HTC ROM you need with Chinese support."
I am confused because first you indicated potential of CID issue, and hence the need of 'hack'. But you then said this problem has been solved. So isn't then ROM and HardSPL are identical? Really sorry about my lack of knowledge, but just can't distinguish between the two yet... other than the fact HardSPL is unofficial, and ROM can be either official or non-official
Well, at this stage I still have to wait till Australia get the release of the phone. As far as I've seen in the past, the telecom in Australia will 'customise' the phone a bit, so I am really hoping I can still flash the English (Asia) ROM from HTCpedia. I've been told to backup as soon as I get the phone so I can restore to 'telecom factory setting' if need arise.
thanks once again
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Almost there. I guess my explanations are not explaining very well. You can, when you have time, check the excellent tutorials on XDA Developers.
A ROM can be an official ROM from HTC or a cooked ROM that is not from HTC or carriers. If you want to flash a cooked ROM you have to use HardSPL.
If you want to flash an official HTC ROM you can do it easily as long as the CID matches your phone. If the CID does not match, as would be your case with you if you flash the English Asian ROM from HTC to your phone, you need something like the Gold Card method to circumvent the CID check. In this case, you still do not need HardSPL, as you are flashing with a signed genuine HTC ROM.
You are absolutely right that you should have a backup of the ROM that came with your phone so that in case you are in need of hardware repairs you can return it under warranty. Even flashing to an official HTC ROM from another region or not the branded ROM from your carrier would void your warranty, so a backup ROM is really crucial.
well, guess these terminologies (SPL, flash ROM, cooked etc) are all fairly new to me, it is difficult, but it's good from my end someone is willing to tolerate ignorant ppl like me.
So by the sound of it, flashing a ROM (official or non-official) seems to be not as straight forward as like reinstalling a PC or press the *.exe file. It sounds like to do what I wish to achieve, there is some degree of risk (especially for someone unfamiliar with it) as well as numerous steps involved... of course, unless there is an unofficial HardSPL that is around... (in which my guess those from HTCpedia are not, am I correct?)
I've heard some softwares like SPB Backup, PIM Backup, or Lookout. But not sure if any of these can backup the ROM from vendor.
squall09 said:
well, guess these terminologies (SPL, flash ROM, cooked etc) are all fairly new to me, it is difficult, but it's good from my end someone is willing to tolerate ignorant ppl like me.
So by the sound of it, flashing a ROM (official or non-official) seems to be not as straight forward as like reinstalling a PC or press the *.exe file. It sounds like to do what I wish to achieve, there is some degree of risk (especially for someone unfamiliar with it) as well as numerous steps involved... of course, unless there is an unofficial HardSPL that is around... (in which my guess those from HTCpedia are not, am I correct?)
I've heard some softwares like SPB Backup, PIM Backup, or Lookout. But not sure if any of these can backup the ROM from vendor.
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Ya, there is always some risk in flashing a ROM, just like installing a new OS on a computer, or updating to a newer OS.
So far there is no HardSPL for the Leo, but that need not worry you, as all you want to do flash to is an official HTC ROM from another region. Your only worry is circumventing the CID.
The programs you mentioned backup personal settings and possibly programs (depending on the program), but they do not backup ROMS. To backup a ROM you have to do what is called dumping a ROM. This is an area I am not very familiar with, and I do not know if anyone has successfully been able to backup a ROM from an HTC HD2 yet. This phone uses Qualcomm's new 1GHz Snapdragon™ processor. It has new technology that has to be analyzed, and that I believe is why such things as developing HardSPL for the HD2 is more challenging.
Perhaps a more tech savvy person here on the forum can tell you if and how you can dump (and how to restore) an HD2 ROM, or if I get some time I will do some research for you.
As I think I said before, all of us were new at this at some point. Many of the members have been very helpful to me in the past and I am more than happy to help a new guy (or gal) get his/her feet wet. It is the way a forum like this should work, yes?
Thanks for your help and offer of research, but I think it's too much to ask, I feel bad. Let's just hope some thread will come up soon...
Regarding to the CID issue, is there anyway of knowing in advance? Is that a local distributor setting or HTC setting?
Can I ask which is easier to do - HardSPL or Flash a ROM? Though no HardSPL now, but surely sometime in the future will have one right?
It's so hard to decide whether to buy the Australia version and take the risk to Flash or HardSPL, something I will likely need to do each time there is future updates. It is expected the local Telecom boost the price like mad for the 850Mhz band, don't want it to be a brick if I ruin it each time I risk updating!!! Part of me feels like to just go for the HK version. Assuming updating ROM is easier, this will make my future life easier with each upgrades from HTC, am I correct?
Thanks heaps... it's good to have someone understand my desire of wanting English interface but also Chinese capability. The usual forum I go to is local, so not many responses regarding to this matter...
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Thanks for your help and offer of research, but I think it's too much to ask, I feel bad. Let's just hope some thread will come up soon...
Regarding to the CID issue, is there anyway of knowing in advance? Is that a local distributor setting or HTC setting?
Can I ask which is easier to do - HardSPL or Flash a ROM? Though no HardSPL now, but surely sometime in the future will have one right?
It's so hard to decide whether to buy the Australia version and take the risk to Flash or HardSPL, something I will likely need to do each time there is future updates. It is expected the local Telecom boost the price like mad for the 850Mhz band, don't want it to be a brick if I ruin it each time I risk updating!!! Part of me feels like to just go for the HK version. Assuming updating ROM is easier, this will make my future life easier with each upgrades from HTC, am I correct?
Thanks heaps... it's good to have someone understand my desire of wanting English interface but also Chinese capability. The usual forum I go to is local, so not many responses regarding to this matter...
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For CID, for sure an HTC phone bought in Australia will have an Australian CID. It is encoded in the factory, I believe. Probably the reason for CID is that HTC is only allowed to sell a language version of Windows Mobile in a certain region or country. It is all about licensing. I did that research for one of the other guys on the previous thread. For example, HTC cannot according to licensing terms sell an English HTC HD2 in Taiwan.
With that said, do not be daunted by all of this. Once the HardSPL is out and you use it once on the phone, you will be able to flash to any ROM you want, without using HardSPL again. The only reason to worry about CID now is that HardSPL is not yet out for the LEO.
If you have ever flashed an update to the BIOS of your computer, then you surely will be able to flash a ROM to your phone. What I suggest is that you download the Asian English ROM and expand it into a folder. Included is a Word file that explains in detail the flashing process. Even though you do not have the phone yet, you could even start the Rom Update Utility just to see what it looks like.
Don't worry, I do understand why you need the Chinese support. I would guess that since, as I recall, you bought a Motorola phone in Taiwan before, chances are either you were born here, or your parents are from here, and you still have family here. That would mean you are really part of two cultures. I need the same configuration as you, because English is my native language, but I need the Chinese to read things like SMS.
Unless you like trying cooked ROMS like me, it is not likely that you will flash ROMS on your phone very often. HTC and most carriers are not too fond of issuing new ROMS for a phone, unless there is a major bug that needs fixing. These companies would much prefer that we buy new phones.
Ya, try downloading the ROM and checking it out a bit after expanding it into a folder. Then, you can wait and see what your carrier will charge, and decide how much full 3G band coverage is worth to you. Let me know any more questions you have after you download the ROM.
I think I am getting a bit more now... so HardSPL essentially will over write the whole phone into a "region free" phone kind of... which allows me to use any ROM.
Question then on HardSPL... I take it's not a simple matter of double click a file and it will run itself via a PC right?
I will download the HTCPedia's ROM when I can (internet usage almost up, the file is pretty big) and see what's in there. Though one question, why is the file *.exe? What does it execute? Will I need the phone plugged in already?
Yes, I was born from Taiwan, hence listen to much of the Chinese/Japanese songs, and it would be sad if the music player displays symbols when I play songs...
thanks for sharing your knowledge
Once you see the word file that comes with the ROM you will understand much better. If you do not want to use up your bandwidth downloading the ROM you can PM me, give me your email address, and I will forward the Word file that comes with the ROM to you. It can all be as simple as connecting your phone to the computer, making a connection with ActiveSync, or Windows Mobile Device Center, and clicking on a file, and then a few more clicks. Finally, in the process, one sits back, says a short prayer, and waits.
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
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"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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In the meantime, check out the XDA-Wiki and read the glossary. That explains all these terms better than I can.
I saw the HTC HD2 again today at the Taipei Computer Association's Infomonth Exhibition in the Taipei World Trade Center. What I saw was a working model, and it sure was sweet. The Chinese version was fast and smooth. I got to see several of my former TCA colleagues today too, so not a bad day.
Chinese support for WWE rom
Hi.
My lady is Chinese.
I gave her my old Polaris when I bought my HD and then I gave her my old HD when I bought a HD2.
She doesn't want a Chinese rom as she can read and write English but she wants to be able to send/receive texts and emails in simplified Ch to friends & relatives.
I found the exact right rom for her Polaris, and have now loaded software support for Ch on a WWE rom on the HD.
Look for a guy called Debboy who does roms in Thai & Ch.
Also, look for HWPen_Olympic_Version.CAB and Samau_CP61.cab.
HWPen supports Ch simplified & Trad & Jp.
It is dependent on hand writing which may not work well on the capacitive screen.
Hope this helps.
Also useful is cdict_ppc_setup.exe , a Ch to En dictionary.
I will be buying a HD2 soon and was wondering what the difference (if any) in performance between the 2?
And say if I wanted to dual boot android and wp7 if there would be any performance issues?
The difference with the frequency bands is not an issue for me.
tmous is easier to make a mistake and brick, and the regular hd2 has more range of available roms. other than that you shouldn't see any difference.
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tmous is easier to make a mistake and brick, and the regular hd2 has more range of available roms. other than that you shouldn't see any difference.
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I thought that's the other way around. the TMOUS version has more roms and not so easy to brick.
to the OP, the band they used is different. the size is bigger on the TMOUS version. the rom size is twice as big as the international version.
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I thought that's the other way around. the TMOUS version has more roms and not so easy to brick.
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regular hd2 can take any rom any radio, but the tmous hd2 hangs with non tmous roms, and dies permanently with non tmous radios.
There are very very few (half a dozen, maybe) roms that say specifically FOR tmous, and they are android roms that make use of the extra rom space rather than an sd card ext partition. these roms would still work on regular hd2, and most of them have two flavours, regular and tmous, with the difference being the use of sd card EXT.
On the flip side, there are loads of roms that say specifically NOT for tmous (winmo roms that don't have a tmous base)
And thats not counting the stock roms, there are dozens of stock roms, all the languages and networks and regions and such like, tmous cant touch any of them, except the three or four tmous specific ones, instant death if it tries.
summary, regular hd2 can use every radio and 99.5% of all roms, tmous can use 50% of radios, risks instant death if it touches the wrong radio, and can only use around 60% of the roms.
victory to the regular hd2 in my eyes hehe, not worth the hassle just for an extra 512 meg rom.
samsamuel said:
regular hd2 can take any rom any radio, but the tmous hd2 hangs with non tmous roms, and dies permanently with non tmous radios.
There are very very few (half a dozen, maybe) roms that say specifically FOR tmous, and they are android roms that make use of the extra rom space rather than an sd card ext partition. these roms would still work on regular hd2, and most of them have two flavours, regular and tmous, with the difference being the use of sd card EXT.
On the flip side, there are loads of roms that say specifically NOT for tmous (winmo roms that don't have a tmous base)
And thats not counting the stock roms, there are dozens of stock roms, all the languages and networks and regions and such like, tmous cant touch any of them, except the three or four tmous specific ones, instant death if it tries.
summary, regular hd2 can use every radio and 99.5% of all roms, tmous can use 50% of radios, risks instant death if it touches the wrong radio, and can only use around 60% of the roms.
victory to the regular hd2 in my eyes hehe, not worth the hassle just for an extra 512 meg rom.
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Hey Samsamuel I found your post very informative. I am not trying to say I do not believe you cause I very much do. But I was wondering if this is information you have learned through just your personal research and use of the HD2 or if you could post a link or links to some of this information. Cause I would really like to learn more about it being I have a TMOUS HD2. Any futher info on this would be highly appreciated.
Its all just from reading and being a natural tinkerer, and a keen interest in helping problem solve, plus reading everything, whether it seems like an interesting topic or not. come every day for a month, and read all the new threads, and you'll see there are about 10 main problems, and each time you answer it it gets a little more ingrained hehe,.
If i were to post any link it wouldnt be any particular thread it would be
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
start your search with hd2 and you wont go far wrong.
The info is all here, most of it several dozen times over,, its just a bit like looking for a needle in a needle-stack.
Hello HD2 forum
I am planning on purchasing a HD2 second hand, to ultimately dual boot windows phone 7 and ICS.
I am buying it from a local trade in store for good prices and warranty, ideally i would like to power it on in store before the purchase to check its clean and ready for me to follow the tutorials available.
Other than identifying that the phone is still running windows mobile, is there any other way for me to check that the phone has not previously been messed with? Something in the settings? Maybe i should check for a secondary mode with certain key combination on boot?
Thanks a lot!
You kinda need to define what you mean by "clean"...I assume you mean stock (and never been modded, but these are 2 different things totally unrelated to each other, more to that in a minute).
IMO the best thing you could do would be to read up on the flashing process. This will tell you what to look for, if you're looking for a stock never-been-modded phone.
But back to your question...the first major sign I'd look for would be HSPL. I'm not going to go into detail about how to find out if it's installed. You'll have to do your own homework. Read every 'how to' and 'newb' (or noob) guide on xda. XDA is an awesome site and the dev's here write awesome documentation. Do them the favor of reading it. I mean, I don't know what you're an expert on but it might get on your nerves if I ask you simple questions about that topic cause I'm too lazy to do the research myself. The research is easy, the reference material is all contained here in various forums, depending on what you want to do. I show my appreciation for that by taking advantage of it, and don't forget to thank the dev's if something is especially helpful...they like that.
As far as checking to ensure that it's still running WinMo...that's gonna be about as effective and informative (about the phone being virgin-stock) as whether or not it's raining that day or not. What's that got to do with anything? Exactly. Nothing. My HD2 is running (at the moment) a WinMo 6.5 build. But it's been flashed more than a hundred times. My daily software is an SD Android build. Before I flashed my HD2 for the first time, I probably spent about 30 hours just reading about the process and trying to understand the process of what I was going to be doing (while reading, I usually had video tutorials playing on my 2nd monitor...I'd give up the reading when it got interesting). So that's it, really...read read read. It's not fail safe. I can't tell you how many times I waited on pins and needles to find out if I had ****-canned my new €400 phone. If you have a heart condition, you just shouldn't ride this ride. ;-)
I just got a SGS2, cause I prefer Android to WinMo. WinMo's a full time job, as is flashing. Something was always not performing the way I wanted it to (efficiency or performance etc), which was why I started flashing, but it gets to be like a drug. Nothing's ever good enough, cause you wind up wanting the best. I'd flash a ROM and install all my **** (manually, one cad file at a time) and then flash a different one and have to reinstall everything again. It was even worse if I had set up my homescreens, and folders the way I wanted them...to that end, I'd highly recommend that you also research mass-installer programs. I can't think of the name of it right now, but you pack all of your cad's in one folder and this program installs all of them (which means like 65% typically, cause invariably about 1/3 will fail for one reason or another).
Even still, looking for HSPL (which is required to flash anything on the HD2) is not very indicative as to whether or not it's been previously modded. When I got my phone it was virgin/stock, of that I'm sure. I bought it from a person, and the person was not capable of performing such tasks (he wasn't so technically inclined). But in your case, you're going to have no idea. It is not only possible but also very easy to return the phone to stock by removing HSPL leaving virtually no trace of it having ever been modded (I say virtually, cause I don't THINK that it can be traced when HSPL has been removed, but I'm not a dev and not a guru). So even the absence of HSPL doesn't even really tell you that it's never been modded, it only says that if it was- then the modder was smart enough to cover his tracks.
Basically, I don't think there's an answer to your question. There are clues that say YES THIS PHONE HAS BEEN MODDED. But there's no definitive sign to look for that say THIS PHONE HAS NEVER BEEN MODDED, and you dunno if someone's gonna lie to you. But I am inviting you to prove me wrong, read the documentation and get back to me.
Good luck flashing, don't **** it up though. You'll be pissed if you brick your ****, which is easy to do. Hell, it's probably a thousand times safer to buy a phone with HSPL installed, then you can flash all you want with no risk. The main risk, is ****ing something up in the HSPL installation process, but there are ways to minimize the risk...which all amount to: read, read, read.
And if you decide you'd be interested in previously modded HD2 (with HSPL already installed), let me know, make me an offer. Mine's just a wifi media device at the moment and I'll probably be marketing it in the near future regardless. It currently has HSPL, and I haven't decided to remove it before sale or not. I saw one on Amazon last week that was at a premium price, cause the seller had Android running on it. It's a great phone if you like WinMo, but I find Android to be much less 'high maintenance' and I used to be a huge WinMo fan (I'm a 10 year WinMo user, if you can believe that!).
Regardless, this is getting long. Those are my 2pence. Be easy.
[EDIT] Hell, if you were closer I'd let you borrow mine for a few weeks to see if you like the phone. I'm a nice guy like that.
There is no way of knowning to be honest, unless you go into bootloader and you see the firmare on it has been tinkered, ( i.e. Hspl, radio, rom ) and depending if it is a eu or tmous version. good luck tho!