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New Desire Z User. Can't use connectify wifi??

So i just got the phone today. In my home I don't have a router, but my laptop is connected, so i usually use my laptop to open wireless via connectify for other wireless devices in the house.
my old sony ericsson mobile phone uses the wifi fine, so does my NDS and gf's iphone4. however my desirez does not even see the wifi network at all.
i did some googling and it seems android phones do not recognize adhoc networks?? is there some simple steps anyone can help me with now?
i have yet to root my phone, and i really dont want to buy a whole new router just for it. thanks.

For connecting your android to ad-hoc network you need to
root and patch ,but there are other ways too ,you can setup
a virtual router if you are using linux there are lots of tutorials around
that you can follow .if you are using windows 7 you can use connectify me.
you mentioned you are using connectiry did you mean
"connectify me" for windows 7 ?? because if you are using that
your phone should see the network and connect to it with no
problem, because connectify me is NOT an ad-hoc network
it act as a virtual router and thats the hole point to it.

i am using connectify on windows 7, and all my other devices see the connection except my desire Z. Connectify says the mode is Ad-Hoc, WEP.
So, I was wondering if that's why my new phone can't see it?
it's funny because a month ago my brother bought HTC Mozart (win7phone) and he couldnt use my connectify and i thought win7 sucks. well i guess it's HTC that sucks.. since my old sonyericsson and iphone can both catch the signal...
would be really great if there is easy way for me to use it..
right now i basically have to use the USB to let the phone use the internet, since i have no phone plans yet.

thunder9111 said:
i am using connectify on windows 7, and all my other devices see the connection except my desire Z. Connectify says the mode is Ad-Hoc, WEP.
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Ok this is the problem .you are running connectify in ad-hoc mode and
android doesnt support that .you need to switch the mode to access point instead of ad-hoc and then it will work without any problem.
setup connectify again and choose access point instead of ad-hoc.

oh crap i just checked, seems like my laptop doesnt have a win7 compatible device that allows me to share through access point..
sigh.. all i can do is ad-hoc sharing. are there any other ways?

thunder9111 said:
oh crap i just checked, seems like my laptop doesnt have a win7 compatible device that allows me to share through access point..
sigh.. all i can do is ad-hoc sharing. are there any other ways?
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Buy a cheap router?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.

root your phone and patch it is the easiest method. You'll get other benefits from rooting, and it's quite easy now. there are walkthroughs in the development subforum.

If connectify is sharing your network as adhoc mode, is because your wifi card is not fully supported.
You can get a compatible one for few bucks.
Altenatively google a bit for ad hock enabled mods, but I havent tried that mods on DZ.

so i take my laptop to an electronic shop asking for a win7 compatible wifi card?
how much do they usually cost?
i guess this would be easier than rooting my phone n going through the modifications or buying a new router.

thunder9111 said:
so i take my laptop to an electronic shop asking for a win7 compatible wifi card?
how much do they usually cost?
i guess this would be easier than rooting my phone n going through the modifications or buying a new router.
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Just look on the connectify site for the compatible chipset list, then you can look @ebay or other online resellers to buy one.
Usually they cost less than 20/25$ but is frequent to find one for something like 5$, maybe used.

fix
replace wpa_supplicant file with this one in /system/bin/
http://www.mediafire.com/?tkxg6c0s386cnlc
make sure u have a root access. also don't forget to make a backup of your original file.

[Q] No DUN no ADHOC rant.....Honeycomb 3.1?

So all of our phones with Wifi hotspot features create an ADHOC connection which Honeycomb does not support. Same goes with Bluetooth, no DUN. Google what the hell? Ya ya,carriers this and carriers that but what about people paying for hotspot features on the phone. I have customers that I need to setup to pair with the TF but it seems nothing will work without rooting and that can be phone specific. So the TF is great as long as you are close to a WIFI connection is supports?
If I'm missing something someone please fill me in.
~DC

think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine

Welcome to Android.
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combat goofwing said:
think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine
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Are you rooted?
Are you simply pairing or using another app on your phone?
Can you run through your connection steps?
Thanks,
~DC

Synman said:
Welcome to Android.
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But why would they do this knowing what the phones support?
~DC

I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.

dfin13 said:
I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.
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The hotspot feature on your ROM is supporting a true wifi connection and not peer to peer adhoc. I can't always root customers phones.
~DC

I may be misunderstanding how it works, but this isn't a wireless tether baked into the ROM, it's the built-in Sprint hotspot feature that I'm using, just unlocked so I don't have to pay extra. If someone was paying for the hotspot feature on Sprint, they wouldn't need root, but maybe this is only the case with Sprint's implementation.

i was able to do both wifi and bluetooth tethering. took me a while to figure out, (since i've never done it before, less due to the difficulty of doing it)
assuming the phone supports Bluetooth tethering, it should always work.

I have a DroidX and I can tether using the built in stock Hotspot feature or with Bluetooth. However, I can't tether using an ad hoc connection because I get an error stating that the device doesn't support ad hoc connections...
So, it is definitely device specific and it will be something the carriers remove as many report being able to do so with root (my device is rooted and I can't connect via ad hoc - although, I haven't d/l or tried out the pdaNet app).
I will also add that the bluetooth tethering has worked MUCH better than the wifi - easier/faster to connect, runs pretty fast, and my phone doesn't overheat as much....

Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?

I went into a store to try a tf and there was no internet so I turned on my WiFi hotspot on my sgsII and it worked perfectly fine, not sure if that's the same as you're asking but that works.

jerrykur said:
Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?
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Are you rooted?
~DC

Any HTC thunderbolt users reading this that have tried hotspot?
~DC

a lot of clarification
Hi all,
I need your help, understanding ... well everything about wifi/TF/WM6.5/adhoc and whatever the other connection is?
I don't think of myself as a noob, but to be honest I'm lost with the wifi on the TF. So here it goes: I have TF and HD2. Under WM6.5 I can't get the TF to see the shared internet through the "wifi router" application on the phone. But then I run a custom Desire HD ROM and this one (can't remember the application) shares and gives access to the TF?!?!
First off, which is which? Which is adhoc and which is infrastructure? And what is the difference (sorry i did look on the internet, but that got me confused even more because I could not see any difference). Are you saying that a standard (not rooted Android) will have the same problem? I was thinking of switching to an android phone so that I can get the easy sharing option, but if I have to root a brand new phone????
Any help will be appreciated,
rio

Easy way to tether off a rooted phone.
Install one of the older versions of wireless tether that supports bluetooth.
Turn on the bluetooth DUN on wireless tether.
Hit ok when it asks to turn on Bluetooth and make discoverable.
On the transformer go to settings-wireless-bluetooth
Scan for your device and pair.
Once paired you should see a little wrench next to your device, click on it
Under Profiles, it should show tethering with a checkbox. Click this and in a few seconds Wireless tether should buzz its connected and off you go.
I've been able to tether my transformer like this since out of the box.
Edit - BTW I've tried this with PDAnet and other non rooted tehtering programs, and I couldn't get it to work with those options. Just FYI

the difference between ad-hoc and infrastructure is the way devices communicate.
infrastructure is kinda like the way we send messages via the post office. we send it to a central place, then it figures out how to deliver the message. this is how true routers operate
ad-hoc is peer-to-peer. imagine passing notes back in elementary school.
( Do you like me [yes] [no] )
some phones comes with a tethering app without having to root, but this typically requires you to pay extra fee to your carrier ($30 for sprint)
if you don't want to pay that, then you have to root your phone to either get a rom that already supports infrastructure mode, or download an app that does. [ ie Wifi Tether ]

people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.

finalhit said:
people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.
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You are right. I put Honeycomb 3.1 in the title but forgot to mention in the OP if anyone heard that 3.1 would have support for DUN or Ad Hoc.
Sorry for any confusion I might have caused
~DC

Edit: I posted misinformation.

Tethering to Android Tablet

Has anyone here tethered their Sammy to an Android tablet? My google searches have come up snake-eyes.
Specifically I am looking at picking up the ASUS Transformer and it is WiFi only.
Thanks

Wonderin the same thing since im also on the hunt for a tf101 if the usb tether with the keyboard would work
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None of you own a tablet??

The only way to tether those Android tablets is using Wi-Fi HotSpot feature. WP7 currently doesn't support wi-fi hotspot feature.
There is another tethering feature that can be hacked to support on a Focus but that's pretty much limited to dial-up modem type connections and I'm pretty sure Android tablet does not support such DUN type tethering through USB.

foxbat121 said:
The only way to tether those Android tablets is using Wi-Fi HotSpot feature. WP7 currently doesn't support wi-fi hotspot feature.
There is another tethering feature that can be hacked to support on a Focus but that's pretty much limited to dial-up modem type connections and I'm pretty sure Android tablet does not support such DUN type tethering through USB.
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I was afraid of that I do use the hack to tether to my laptop using a dial up connection and it works great. Hoping maybe I could use bluetooth to tether with the tablet.
I appreciate the info.
Cheers!

Well... my persistence paid off
Simply refusing to cave to Rogers and spend more on my current plan, or buy another data stick, I tried a few different products and eventually solved my own problem.
Purchased the Aluratek 3G Portable Wireless USB Cellular Router, directly connected my Samsung Focus and popped in the APN settings provided by Aluratek support and BOOM... 3G Hotspot heaven.
The router is very compact and has a rechargeable battery. Packs very nicely in my Targus Netbook bag with the other accessories. Very cool!
Consumer: 1 Greedy Corporations: 0

Aluratek
Looks good. Where did you pick up the Aluratek in Toronto?

ontreg said:
Looks good. Where did you pick up the Aluratek in Toronto?
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Not Toronto, but it works.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...reless_cellular_router-_-75-994-026-_-Product

My wife and I are among the early adaptor for WP7. We've waiting for a way to tether since day 1. It's been 7 months, I think we need to move on. We are thinking, instead of getting 2 more phones, maybe we can hack our Focus into Android phones. Is there a project going on?

I just bought the lenovo s10-3t netbook with a touchsceen (windows 7). Ive seen on youtube and done some reading about it being hacked to run android... It'd be awesome if I could just tether the focus to it like I do in windows 7 although as there arent drivers for our phone for windows I dont see how thats possible correct?

[Q] can't connect to phone's hotspot

I just got the Acer Iconia A500 8gb. I know nothing about rooting or flashing or new rom or w/e. It's stock OS (android 3.2)
The tablet can't connect to my phone's wifi hotspot
iPhone 3G
MyWi tethering app
T-Mobile
Please help
If you need more details, let me know

Are you trying to connect to the hotspot on your iPhone 3g? If you are, that means you don't have wifi hotspot, but personal hotspot, which connects through bluetooth. I am pretty sure you cannot do this on stock ROM, you need to root it in order to enable this functionality. I was able to connect to a personal hotspot on an iPhone 3Gs with Thor's ROM.
Furthermore if you are trying to connect to a phone with wifi hotspot, that will not work either as stock tablets cannot connect to ad-hoc networks. There is a specific file that is in the android system that disables this ability.

Not sure if that is totally correct. My G2 which is rooted can be run as a wifi hotspot, and when my tablet was on stock 3.2 unrooted, it connected to it without issue... Unless I've completely misunderstood your post.

ad-hoc support
i think the phones hot spot is ad-hoc if this is true .. you will have to downgrade. root and replace the ad-hoc file .
the iconia does not support ad-hoc networks out of the box.
this is all over this forum.. probably the very most asked Question.. Do a simple search and you will find more information.
goodluck

fermunky said:
Not sure if that is totally correct. My G2 which is rooted can be run as a wifi hotspot, and when my tablet was on stock 3.2 unrooted, it connected to it without issue... Unless I've completely misunderstood your post.
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That's odd, maybe your G2 runs the wifi hotspot in infrastructure mode. I was under the impression that all hotspot features on phones were ad-hoc though, but I most certainly could be wrong.
erica_renee said:
i think the phones hot spot is ad-hoc if this is true .. you will have to downgrade. root and replace the ad-hoc file .
the iconia does not support ad-hoc networks out of the box.
this is all over this forum.. probably the very most asked Question.. Do a simple search and you will find more information.
goodluck
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That's what I read all over the place too.
In terms of connecting to the iPhone though, the iPhone4 was the first iPhone to introduce wifi hotpot. The previous gen have personal hotspot which connected through bluetooth. I know that an unrooted Iconia cannot connect to a 3Gs's personal hotspot. I've tried it and when I switched to Thor's ROM, I was able to connect to it.

[Q] Pairing with TF101 tablet

I have looked but can't find a solution. I have the transformer 101 tablet and can't get it to connect to my tmobile mytouch 4g. I'm posting in this forum because I can get the tablet to connect to my computer so I figure it has something to do with the phone. I'm trying to get a bluetooth connection so I can tether. I don't use much data but I'd like to know I could do it with the tablet and make a connection if wifi not around. I have rooted and installed stock Android 2.3.4. I don't know much about Bluetooth or WIFi but from my readings I'm think it might have something to do with PAN BT profile. If this is the case, is this a software thing? Is their a ROM that has the PAN BT profile? I like some of the Sense Apps so I'd like to stay with a stable Sense ROM. I'd like to be able to stream Navigator when I need it or brows the internet while waiting in the parking lot for my husband. Yes I can do it on the phone but my eyes are bad and a larger screen is so nice. I don't come anywhere near a GB of data each month...just want to be able to connect when sitting in my car and give myself a bigger screen.

I must be missing something here. Why not install wifi tether or one of the myriad sense 3.5 ROMS in the dev section that ALL have a working wifi hotspot?

Well my thinking may be wrong on how Bluetooth and wifi work but I was thinking there isn't always a wifi connection, but there would always be a signal with bluetooth connecting the tablet to the phones 3G and 4G. I was hoping that, if tablet paired to phone when traveling, I could use the bigger screen on the tablet and navigation would run like on the phone. I'd like to use the tablet as much as possible and I'm thinking that in the country there wouldn't be any wifi hotspots. Sorry if I've got this all wrong. Most of the time I would use wifi and I've only used that at home or work....never hotspots.
As far as ROM's go, I was thinking of the Virtuous Affinity or Unity ROM's but didn't know if they were going to give me the bluetooth connection I was looking for. I can't remember but thought I read that you couldn't do some things in 3.5 that you could do with ealier versions. Do you know why the tablet can't connect with the MyTouch? Is it the PAN BT profile. I know the tablet doesn't do adhoc. Sorry but I did try to read up on it. I was just thinking of the message I see. They are paired but they wont connect. I click on the bluetooth device but it doesn't connect

I've tried to understand what your asking but I'm still confused. Are you trying to make a wifi hotspot off your phone, then connect your transformer to the hotspot, to use the internet?
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
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d2dthetide said:
Well my thinking may be wrong on how Bluetooth and wifi work but I was thinking there isn't always a wifi connection, but there would always be a signal with bluetooth connecting the tablet to the phones 3G and 4G. I was hoping that, if tablet paired to phone when traveling, I could use the bigger screen on the tablet and navigation would run like on the phone. I'd like to use the tablet as much as possible and I'm thinking that in the country there wouldn't be any wifi hotspots. Sorry if I've got this all wrong. Most of the time I would use wifi and I've only used that at home or work....never hotspots.
As far as ROM's go, I was thinking of the Virtuous Affinity or Unity ROM's but didn't know if they were going to give me the bluetooth connection I was looking for. I can't remember but thought I read that you couldn't do some things in 3.5 that you could do with ealier versions. Do you know why the tablet can't connect with the MyTouch? Is it the PAN BT profile. I know the tablet doesn't do adhoc (point one). Sorry but I did try to read up on it. I was just thinking of the message I see. They are paired but they wont connect. I click on the bluetooth device but it doesn't connect
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There a couple things wrong with this post 1) the tablet does support and use AD-HOC tethering. I know that for a fact because I've had people connect to my home network via my tablet just to show off. Pretty embarrassing making them use my Android Tablet to connect their iPad to my home network. 2) If you are just wanting to use your tablet as a navigation unit, use the Google maps while you are connected to WiFi to find directions to where you want to go, then press the navigate button. It'll work w/o a data signal. I've done it several times. 3) you don't need blue-tooth to bridge the Tablet to the phone. This doesn't work like Blackberries and the playbook. You can use the Wi-Fi Tether .apk from Google's source code to do just that. [http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list] 4) There has to be a blue tooth stack installed on the Phone, and on the Tablet that will allow them to share blue tooth connections for Internet. I have TF101 and have yet to find such a BT stack.