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Tethering

I have a G2 with Tmobile and use a lot of data on it. A tab would be much better and I'd like to pick up the wifi version of the Xoom. Now seeing as Verizon has tiered pricing for their mobile broadband/tablet data plans I'd be much better off tethering my G2 to the Xoom, but which methods would work? I tried using Barnacle as an experiment but with a bit of reading found out that devices that aren't ad-hoc wouldn't connect (my PSP and CR-48 notebook wouldn't work, and reading the wiki the PS3 doesn't either) which leaves USB tethering. I know you have to install additional software with PDAnet tethering, so would USB tethering be possible android to android?

The Wireless Tether app works fine between my rooted Droid X and my CR-48, so I imagine it would work with a Xoom as well.

It should work with Wireless Tether. I'm hoping for that, if not, bluetooth tethering should work. And if that doesn't work, I'll have to use Connectify on my laptop to create a wifi hotspot of my tethered data connection from my little Eris! Hopefully, that won't be the case though, it'd be burden when not at home.

Yea.. simply just download the Wifi-Tether app. It works with everything, if you're rooted of course.
Or just use 2.2's built in tethering ability. Works just as good ~.~

Thanks, for some reason I forgot about the built in tether/hotspot, I think because when I bought my G2 the rep tried to sell me tethering for $15 a month or something. The wifi tether and barnacle tether apps don't work but the built in one does.

[Q] Question on tethering

I finally left WM after many years and went to the dark side. I have a Droid X and friends have said just the tethering capability makes rooting my phone worth it. I'm on Verizon and it has a an app called 3G Mobile Hotspot which I use to connect my laptop to, or my kids iPod touches while I'm in the car. Are there any speed advantages or other reasons why USB tethering is better? I understand USB will not drain the battery, but other than that, any advantages? It is my understanding that I can also do wi-fi tethering, what is the difference between that and a wi-fi hotspot?
Thanks in advance for your help!

Yes, USB tethering uses less battery since you are not running the wifi radio in the phone
As for speed, I don't think there is a difference, usb and wifi speeds are much faster than 3g speeds.
Wifi tethering and hotspot are essentially the same, just different names.
Most of the wifi tethering apps on the market use ad-hoc mode, some wifi devices wont connect in this mode, I think the ipad, ipod and psp do not connect in this mode.
The 3g hotspot app that comes with the phone is nice since it uses wifi infrastructure mode, which is more compatible with wifi devices. Too bad it's an additional $20/month (unless you know the workaround!)
I hear that "Wifi Tether" on the market has support for this mode, but I have never been able to get it to work.

WiFi Tether for Root Users is an excellent application. It uses infrastructure instead of ad-hoc, so a wider range if devices can connect to it. And not having to pay an extra $20 a month is a nice advantage. Rooting is so worth it ^_^
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infazzdar said:
WiFi Tether for Root Users is an excellent application. It uses infrastructure instead of ad-hoc, so a wider range if devices can connect to it. And not having to pay an extra $20 a month is a nice advantage. Rooting is so worth it ^_^
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Nice, I will have to try it again sometime

Thanks!
Makes perfect sense and answers the question on why I could get my kids iPod touches to connect to the hotspot on my HTC Touch Pro 2, but not my Droid X. Thanks for your help!

[Q] No DUN no ADHOC rant.....Honeycomb 3.1?

So all of our phones with Wifi hotspot features create an ADHOC connection which Honeycomb does not support. Same goes with Bluetooth, no DUN. Google what the hell? Ya ya,carriers this and carriers that but what about people paying for hotspot features on the phone. I have customers that I need to setup to pair with the TF but it seems nothing will work without rooting and that can be phone specific. So the TF is great as long as you are close to a WIFI connection is supports?
If I'm missing something someone please fill me in.
~DC

think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine

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combat goofwing said:
think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine
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Are you rooted?
Are you simply pairing or using another app on your phone?
Can you run through your connection steps?
Thanks,
~DC

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But why would they do this knowing what the phones support?
~DC

I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.

dfin13 said:
I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.
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The hotspot feature on your ROM is supporting a true wifi connection and not peer to peer adhoc. I can't always root customers phones.
~DC

I may be misunderstanding how it works, but this isn't a wireless tether baked into the ROM, it's the built-in Sprint hotspot feature that I'm using, just unlocked so I don't have to pay extra. If someone was paying for the hotspot feature on Sprint, they wouldn't need root, but maybe this is only the case with Sprint's implementation.

i was able to do both wifi and bluetooth tethering. took me a while to figure out, (since i've never done it before, less due to the difficulty of doing it)
assuming the phone supports Bluetooth tethering, it should always work.

I have a DroidX and I can tether using the built in stock Hotspot feature or with Bluetooth. However, I can't tether using an ad hoc connection because I get an error stating that the device doesn't support ad hoc connections...
So, it is definitely device specific and it will be something the carriers remove as many report being able to do so with root (my device is rooted and I can't connect via ad hoc - although, I haven't d/l or tried out the pdaNet app).
I will also add that the bluetooth tethering has worked MUCH better than the wifi - easier/faster to connect, runs pretty fast, and my phone doesn't overheat as much....

Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?

I went into a store to try a tf and there was no internet so I turned on my WiFi hotspot on my sgsII and it worked perfectly fine, not sure if that's the same as you're asking but that works.

jerrykur said:
Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?
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Are you rooted?
~DC

Any HTC thunderbolt users reading this that have tried hotspot?
~DC

a lot of clarification
Hi all,
I need your help, understanding ... well everything about wifi/TF/WM6.5/adhoc and whatever the other connection is?
I don't think of myself as a noob, but to be honest I'm lost with the wifi on the TF. So here it goes: I have TF and HD2. Under WM6.5 I can't get the TF to see the shared internet through the "wifi router" application on the phone. But then I run a custom Desire HD ROM and this one (can't remember the application) shares and gives access to the TF?!?!
First off, which is which? Which is adhoc and which is infrastructure? And what is the difference (sorry i did look on the internet, but that got me confused even more because I could not see any difference). Are you saying that a standard (not rooted Android) will have the same problem? I was thinking of switching to an android phone so that I can get the easy sharing option, but if I have to root a brand new phone????
Any help will be appreciated,
rio

Easy way to tether off a rooted phone.
Install one of the older versions of wireless tether that supports bluetooth.
Turn on the bluetooth DUN on wireless tether.
Hit ok when it asks to turn on Bluetooth and make discoverable.
On the transformer go to settings-wireless-bluetooth
Scan for your device and pair.
Once paired you should see a little wrench next to your device, click on it
Under Profiles, it should show tethering with a checkbox. Click this and in a few seconds Wireless tether should buzz its connected and off you go.
I've been able to tether my transformer like this since out of the box.
Edit - BTW I've tried this with PDAnet and other non rooted tehtering programs, and I couldn't get it to work with those options. Just FYI

the difference between ad-hoc and infrastructure is the way devices communicate.
infrastructure is kinda like the way we send messages via the post office. we send it to a central place, then it figures out how to deliver the message. this is how true routers operate
ad-hoc is peer-to-peer. imagine passing notes back in elementary school.
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some phones comes with a tethering app without having to root, but this typically requires you to pay extra fee to your carrier ($30 for sprint)
if you don't want to pay that, then you have to root your phone to either get a rom that already supports infrastructure mode, or download an app that does. [ ie Wifi Tether ]

people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.

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people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.
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You are right. I put Honeycomb 3.1 in the title but forgot to mention in the OP if anyone heard that 3.1 would have support for DUN or Ad Hoc.
Sorry for any confusion I might have caused
~DC

Edit: I posted misinformation.

[Q] Use phone 3g on tablet?

Is there a way to plug our phones into tablets and use the 3g service from our phones to our tablets.... Sorta like a modem for on the go.. Instead of using wifi tethering? Not sure if it's been done or not thought it would be a good idea tho

Do a quick search, it has been discussed extensively in other threads. You can use PdaNet Tablet if your phone support bluetooh.

No. Simple answer.
The 500 does not have this capability, Because it doesn;t have the radio to accommodate it.
Physical limitation

so my best bet for Internet on the go is tethering from my phone?

If you want to connect your tablet to a phone you will need to root your tablet.
The tablet doesn't support Ad-hoc connectivity out of the box. Many wi-fi hotspot features on phones use Ad-hoc to connect.
I also remember a while back I was trying to see if I could connect my stock Tablet to the personal hotspot of somebody's iPhone 3gs (connects via bluetooth) but it didn't work. I remember rooting the tablet and installing Thor's ROM and found out that now I could connect to the personal hotspot. Not sure what was in Thor's ROM to make this work though.
And as another poster said, you can try pdanet if you have an android phone. I tried it before I had an Android phone and it wouldn't work (even though the phone still had pdanet on it), and have not tried it since because my phone has wifi-hotspot.

subnoize soulja said:
Is there a way to plug our phones into tablets and use the 3g service from our phones to our tablets.... Sorta like a modem for on the go.. Instead of using wifi tethering? Not sure if it's been done or not thought it would be a good idea tho
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Depends on your phone really. Android is easy enough rooted + wifi tether for root. Non-smartphone takes a little work, but isn't that bad. Check tut on getting usb to 'dumbphone' modem working. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1452800

...or you can use 3G modem and take these steps to use it with your tablet http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633086

Tethering with your Phone

Hi!
Like most of you, i´m planning to buy this lovely tablet.
So now i´m wondering what will be the best way to get it connected to the internet via an android smartphone.
I was thinking of some sort of on-demand bluetooth data sharing.
Is there already a battery saving app to do something like that?
If i would have to enable the hotspot every time i want to look something up on the tablet when i´m in class that would be almost a dealbreaker too me.

supermult said:
Hi!
Like most of you, i´m planning to buy this lovely tablet.
So now i´m wondering what will be the best way to get it connected to the internet via an android smartphone.
I was thinking of some sort of on-demand bluetooth data sharing.
Is there already a battery saving app to do something like that?
If i would have to enable the hotspot every time i want to look something up on the tablet when i´m in class that would be almost a dealbreaker too me.
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i think bluetooth tethering should work out of the box depending on your phone battery life is still very ok (i use it laptop-galaxy nexus)

supermult said:
Hi!
Like most of you, i´m planning to buy this lovely tablet.
So now i´m wondering what will be the best way to get it connected to the internet via an android smartphone.
I was thinking of some sort of on-demand bluetooth data sharing.
Is there already a battery saving app to do something like that?
If i would have to enable the hotspot every time i want to look something up on the tablet when i´m in class that would be almost a dealbreaker too me.
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Bluetooth isn't a very fast connection compared to WiFi... and it's also very range-limited. So if you can get it to work, I don't think you'll be happy with the speed.
What's wrong with using your phone as a Wifi Hotspot? That's that I do.

I think you'll find better performance using your phone as a hotspot rather than pairing up via bluetooth. Not sure what phone you have but my Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Nexus both work great as hot spots and get decent battery life continuously on. If you run AOKP you can set a toggle in the drop down menu for wireless hotspot making it simple to turn it on and off whenever you need it.

The Nexus 7 has built-in Wi-Fi. You are solely responsible for obtaining internet connectivity through an internet service provider as the Nexus 7 does not support mobile connectivity.
In order to use the Nexus 7, you understand that you will need your own 802.11a/b/g/n access point Wi-Fi router.
does this mean we cant use wireless tether on our nexus?

graffitiwriter said:
The Nexus 7 has built-in Wi-Fi. You are solely responsible for obtaining internet connectivity through an internet service provider as the Nexus 7 does not support mobile connectivity.
In order to use the Nexus 7, you understand that you will need your own 802.11a/b/g/n access point Wi-Fi router.
does this mean we cant use wireless tether on our nexus?
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No...it means it has no radio to connect to 3g/4g
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