I finally left WM after many years and went to the dark side. I have a Droid X and friends have said just the tethering capability makes rooting my phone worth it. I'm on Verizon and it has a an app called 3G Mobile Hotspot which I use to connect my laptop to, or my kids iPod touches while I'm in the car. Are there any speed advantages or other reasons why USB tethering is better? I understand USB will not drain the battery, but other than that, any advantages? It is my understanding that I can also do wi-fi tethering, what is the difference between that and a wi-fi hotspot?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Yes, USB tethering uses less battery since you are not running the wifi radio in the phone
As for speed, I don't think there is a difference, usb and wifi speeds are much faster than 3g speeds.
Wifi tethering and hotspot are essentially the same, just different names.
Most of the wifi tethering apps on the market use ad-hoc mode, some wifi devices wont connect in this mode, I think the ipad, ipod and psp do not connect in this mode.
The 3g hotspot app that comes with the phone is nice since it uses wifi infrastructure mode, which is more compatible with wifi devices. Too bad it's an additional $20/month (unless you know the workaround!)
I hear that "Wifi Tether" on the market has support for this mode, but I have never been able to get it to work.
WiFi Tether for Root Users is an excellent application. It uses infrastructure instead of ad-hoc, so a wider range if devices can connect to it. And not having to pay an extra $20 a month is a nice advantage. Rooting is so worth it ^_^
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infazzdar said:
WiFi Tether for Root Users is an excellent application. It uses infrastructure instead of ad-hoc, so a wider range if devices can connect to it. And not having to pay an extra $20 a month is a nice advantage. Rooting is so worth it ^_^
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Nice, I will have to try it again sometime
Thanks!
Makes perfect sense and answers the question on why I could get my kids iPod touches to connect to the hotspot on my HTC Touch Pro 2, but not my Droid X. Thanks for your help!
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WPA2 + infrastructure = strong security and access for your Android devices and other devices that didn't support ad-hoc mode (Wii, etc).
Writeup written by Andrew himself - the guy who developed most of the code for this to work on the EVO.
Props Andrew!
Free Android WiFi Tether For Root Users App Now Supports WPA2 And Full Hotspot (Infrastructure) Capabilities On EVO 4G
sweeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Freaking Awesome!!!!
THANK YOU!
The factory included Sprint Hotspot program works very well. I can understand maybe wanting this program in the future when the Hotspot gets shut down (though we don't know how it will happen), but right now, everyone should still be able to use it.
Minjin said:
The factory included Sprint Hotspot program works very well. I can understand maybe wanting this program in the future when the Hotspot gets shut down (though we don't know how it will happen), but right now, everyone should still be able to use it.
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4G only though, wifi tether works on 4G, 3G, and 1x already.
Huzzah for Andrew!
Gotcha. I was wondering about that. I was just playing around with the hotspot and noticed that turning it on turns off 3g (and lower). I don't recall if it was that way before the OTA update but it may have been.
I have this apk on my EVO and love it!
Well worth the rooting process for this app alone.
It's already been noted that 2.0.5-pre1 doesn't like dollar signs in the WPA key, but it doesn't like spaces, either.
Just FYI.
dude i love it that much more now my freind can use her zune and i can use my ps3 and my psp
Does anyone know if this might be coming to the Eris? I would love to be able to use infrastructure mode on my HTC Eris with this fantastic app.
Whatever happened with the Infrastructure mode feature. I lost track at some point, and I can't tell now if it was abandoned or if it's working. Did infrastructure mode wind up as part of the package or is there some other mods that have to be done?
Thanks
I have an EVO (obviously) and have tried multiple version of the wifi tether app (spent the last hour searching and reading threads and the code.google site). I can't get any of them to broadcast in infrastructure mode, only AD-HOC. My corporate laptop has security restrictions in place to block Ad-HOC mode, so a regular infrasture connection is my only option.
Thanks in advance.
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I have an EVO (obviously) and have tried multiple version of the wifi tether app (spent the last hour searching and reading threads and the code.google site). I can't get any of them to broadcast in infrastructure mode, only AD-HOC. My corporate laptop has security restrictions in place to block Ad-HOC mode, so a regular infrasture connection is my only option.
Thanks in advance.
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From what I have read since WiFi Tether version 2.0.5-pre1 it has supported infrastructure mode but only for the Evo. I think it has to do with the WIfi hotspot drivers installed.
but you can always use pdanet
Very odd then. I have an EVO, and have tried four different versions (market version, pre2, pre7, ect...) of the Wifi Tether app.
Still only in AD-HOC mode.
I have a G2 with Tmobile and use a lot of data on it. A tab would be much better and I'd like to pick up the wifi version of the Xoom. Now seeing as Verizon has tiered pricing for their mobile broadband/tablet data plans I'd be much better off tethering my G2 to the Xoom, but which methods would work? I tried using Barnacle as an experiment but with a bit of reading found out that devices that aren't ad-hoc wouldn't connect (my PSP and CR-48 notebook wouldn't work, and reading the wiki the PS3 doesn't either) which leaves USB tethering. I know you have to install additional software with PDAnet tethering, so would USB tethering be possible android to android?
The Wireless Tether app works fine between my rooted Droid X and my CR-48, so I imagine it would work with a Xoom as well.
It should work with Wireless Tether. I'm hoping for that, if not, bluetooth tethering should work. And if that doesn't work, I'll have to use Connectify on my laptop to create a wifi hotspot of my tethered data connection from my little Eris! Hopefully, that won't be the case though, it'd be burden when not at home.
Yea.. simply just download the Wifi-Tether app. It works with everything, if you're rooted of course.
Or just use 2.2's built in tethering ability. Works just as good ~.~
Thanks, for some reason I forgot about the built in tether/hotspot, I think because when I bought my G2 the rep tried to sell me tethering for $15 a month or something. The wifi tether and barnacle tether apps don't work but the built in one does.
So all of our phones with Wifi hotspot features create an ADHOC connection which Honeycomb does not support. Same goes with Bluetooth, no DUN. Google what the hell? Ya ya,carriers this and carriers that but what about people paying for hotspot features on the phone. I have customers that I need to setup to pair with the TF but it seems nothing will work without rooting and that can be phone specific. So the TF is great as long as you are close to a WIFI connection is supports?
If I'm missing something someone please fill me in.
~DC
think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine
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think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine
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Are you rooted?
Are you simply pairing or using another app on your phone?
Can you run through your connection steps?
Thanks,
~DC
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But why would they do this knowing what the phones support?
~DC
I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.
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I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.
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The hotspot feature on your ROM is supporting a true wifi connection and not peer to peer adhoc. I can't always root customers phones.
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I may be misunderstanding how it works, but this isn't a wireless tether baked into the ROM, it's the built-in Sprint hotspot feature that I'm using, just unlocked so I don't have to pay extra. If someone was paying for the hotspot feature on Sprint, they wouldn't need root, but maybe this is only the case with Sprint's implementation.
i was able to do both wifi and bluetooth tethering. took me a while to figure out, (since i've never done it before, less due to the difficulty of doing it)
assuming the phone supports Bluetooth tethering, it should always work.
I have a DroidX and I can tether using the built in stock Hotspot feature or with Bluetooth. However, I can't tether using an ad hoc connection because I get an error stating that the device doesn't support ad hoc connections...
So, it is definitely device specific and it will be something the carriers remove as many report being able to do so with root (my device is rooted and I can't connect via ad hoc - although, I haven't d/l or tried out the pdaNet app).
I will also add that the bluetooth tethering has worked MUCH better than the wifi - easier/faster to connect, runs pretty fast, and my phone doesn't overheat as much....
Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?
I went into a store to try a tf and there was no internet so I turned on my WiFi hotspot on my sgsII and it worked perfectly fine, not sure if that's the same as you're asking but that works.
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Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?
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Are you rooted?
~DC
Any HTC thunderbolt users reading this that have tried hotspot?
~DC
a lot of clarification
Hi all,
I need your help, understanding ... well everything about wifi/TF/WM6.5/adhoc and whatever the other connection is?
I don't think of myself as a noob, but to be honest I'm lost with the wifi on the TF. So here it goes: I have TF and HD2. Under WM6.5 I can't get the TF to see the shared internet through the "wifi router" application on the phone. But then I run a custom Desire HD ROM and this one (can't remember the application) shares and gives access to the TF?!?!
First off, which is which? Which is adhoc and which is infrastructure? And what is the difference (sorry i did look on the internet, but that got me confused even more because I could not see any difference). Are you saying that a standard (not rooted Android) will have the same problem? I was thinking of switching to an android phone so that I can get the easy sharing option, but if I have to root a brand new phone????
Any help will be appreciated,
rio
Easy way to tether off a rooted phone.
Install one of the older versions of wireless tether that supports bluetooth.
Turn on the bluetooth DUN on wireless tether.
Hit ok when it asks to turn on Bluetooth and make discoverable.
On the transformer go to settings-wireless-bluetooth
Scan for your device and pair.
Once paired you should see a little wrench next to your device, click on it
Under Profiles, it should show tethering with a checkbox. Click this and in a few seconds Wireless tether should buzz its connected and off you go.
I've been able to tether my transformer like this since out of the box.
Edit - BTW I've tried this with PDAnet and other non rooted tehtering programs, and I couldn't get it to work with those options. Just FYI
the difference between ad-hoc and infrastructure is the way devices communicate.
infrastructure is kinda like the way we send messages via the post office. we send it to a central place, then it figures out how to deliver the message. this is how true routers operate
ad-hoc is peer-to-peer. imagine passing notes back in elementary school.
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some phones comes with a tethering app without having to root, but this typically requires you to pay extra fee to your carrier ($30 for sprint)
if you don't want to pay that, then you have to root your phone to either get a rom that already supports infrastructure mode, or download an app that does. [ ie Wifi Tether ]
people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.
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people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.
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You are right. I put Honeycomb 3.1 in the title but forgot to mention in the OP if anyone heard that 3.1 would have support for DUN or Ad Hoc.
Sorry for any confusion I might have caused
~DC
Edit: I posted misinformation.
Has anyone here tethered their Sammy to an Android tablet? My google searches have come up snake-eyes.
Specifically I am looking at picking up the ASUS Transformer and it is WiFi only.
Thanks
Wonderin the same thing since im also on the hunt for a tf101 if the usb tether with the keyboard would work
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None of you own a tablet??
The only way to tether those Android tablets is using Wi-Fi HotSpot feature. WP7 currently doesn't support wi-fi hotspot feature.
There is another tethering feature that can be hacked to support on a Focus but that's pretty much limited to dial-up modem type connections and I'm pretty sure Android tablet does not support such DUN type tethering through USB.
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The only way to tether those Android tablets is using Wi-Fi HotSpot feature. WP7 currently doesn't support wi-fi hotspot feature.
There is another tethering feature that can be hacked to support on a Focus but that's pretty much limited to dial-up modem type connections and I'm pretty sure Android tablet does not support such DUN type tethering through USB.
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I was afraid of that I do use the hack to tether to my laptop using a dial up connection and it works great. Hoping maybe I could use bluetooth to tether with the tablet.
I appreciate the info.
Cheers!
Well... my persistence paid off
Simply refusing to cave to Rogers and spend more on my current plan, or buy another data stick, I tried a few different products and eventually solved my own problem.
Purchased the Aluratek 3G Portable Wireless USB Cellular Router, directly connected my Samsung Focus and popped in the APN settings provided by Aluratek support and BOOM... 3G Hotspot heaven.
The router is very compact and has a rechargeable battery. Packs very nicely in my Targus Netbook bag with the other accessories. Very cool!
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Aluratek
Looks good. Where did you pick up the Aluratek in Toronto?
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Looks good. Where did you pick up the Aluratek in Toronto?
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Not Toronto, but it works.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...reless_cellular_router-_-75-994-026-_-Product
My wife and I are among the early adaptor for WP7. We've waiting for a way to tether since day 1. It's been 7 months, I think we need to move on. We are thinking, instead of getting 2 more phones, maybe we can hack our Focus into Android phones. Is there a project going on?
I just bought the lenovo s10-3t netbook with a touchsceen (windows 7). Ive seen on youtube and done some reading about it being hacked to run android... It'd be awesome if I could just tether the focus to it like I do in windows 7 although as there arent drivers for our phone for windows I dont see how thats possible correct?
http://androidforums.com/evo-3d-all...t-android-tether-doesnt-work.html#post3029214
Using the above app and having root on the phone, you can wifi tether asus transformer that is not rooted. There are a few errors, but all and all it does work.
It depends on the phone's hotspot. When I first got my TF and non root, I tether to my N1 jsut fine. The TF just see my N1's hot spot as another wifi AP.
curious.. why would you want to tether your ASUS TF101?
the TF101 only has WIFI unless yuo habve the TF101G with the simcard slot.
the only time i could see you tethering your TF101 is if you had a mobile data service plan on it and you coudl share that with other devices and laptops.
if you just have the standard TF101 with wifi only and you tether it that seems like waste sharing the Wifi connection that other devices could easily just connect to anyways with out connecting through the TF101.
now since i have a samsung vibrant from Tmobile i do enable tethering on my phone and thne i connect my TF101 to my Samsung vibrant so that i can use it on the road but i jst dont see why anyone would want to enable tethering on a wifi only device.
i do notice that in wireless setup it has the option to enable hotspot but that makes no sense. why would i want to enable people to connect to my wifi only device that i am already getting wifi from somewhere else?
seems like an option that was meant to be on the TF101G but they left it enabled on the standard TF101
If I recall correctly, tethering is built in to Froyo and later as long as your carrier hasn't disabled it in their build for your phone. Or are you talking about something different?
I have a Nexus 1 also, tethering is not a problem with it because it simply acts as a regular wifi hotspot, the problem is if you have a phone that will only send out an adhoc wifi spot (like a symbian phone for example). The non-rooted transformer and other Android devices can not pick up an adhoc connection, unlike laptops and iOS devices which have no problem with them.
Add me to the don't understand list. I tether all sorts of device including unrooted transformer, iPad2, etc. to my rooted Evo.
my nexus tethers without root
This is an issue? My TF works perfectly with my Vision/DesireZ/G2 no problem.
What I'd REALLY like to see is a working USB tether. It seems dumb that I have to setup a Wifi hotspot then plug my phone into my TF in order to charge (since using the hotspot gobbles battery)