I just got the Acer Iconia A500 8gb. I know nothing about rooting or flashing or new rom or w/e. It's stock OS (android 3.2)
The tablet can't connect to my phone's wifi hotspot
iPhone 3G
MyWi tethering app
T-Mobile
Please help
If you need more details, let me know
Are you trying to connect to the hotspot on your iPhone 3g? If you are, that means you don't have wifi hotspot, but personal hotspot, which connects through bluetooth. I am pretty sure you cannot do this on stock ROM, you need to root it in order to enable this functionality. I was able to connect to a personal hotspot on an iPhone 3Gs with Thor's ROM.
Furthermore if you are trying to connect to a phone with wifi hotspot, that will not work either as stock tablets cannot connect to ad-hoc networks. There is a specific file that is in the android system that disables this ability.
Not sure if that is totally correct. My G2 which is rooted can be run as a wifi hotspot, and when my tablet was on stock 3.2 unrooted, it connected to it without issue... Unless I've completely misunderstood your post.
ad-hoc support
i think the phones hot spot is ad-hoc if this is true .. you will have to downgrade. root and replace the ad-hoc file .
the iconia does not support ad-hoc networks out of the box.
this is all over this forum.. probably the very most asked Question.. Do a simple search and you will find more information.
goodluck
fermunky said:
Not sure if that is totally correct. My G2 which is rooted can be run as a wifi hotspot, and when my tablet was on stock 3.2 unrooted, it connected to it without issue... Unless I've completely misunderstood your post.
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That's odd, maybe your G2 runs the wifi hotspot in infrastructure mode. I was under the impression that all hotspot features on phones were ad-hoc though, but I most certainly could be wrong.
erica_renee said:
i think the phones hot spot is ad-hoc if this is true .. you will have to downgrade. root and replace the ad-hoc file .
the iconia does not support ad-hoc networks out of the box.
this is all over this forum.. probably the very most asked Question.. Do a simple search and you will find more information.
goodluck
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That's what I read all over the place too.
In terms of connecting to the iPhone though, the iPhone4 was the first iPhone to introduce wifi hotpot. The previous gen have personal hotspot which connected through bluetooth. I know that an unrooted Iconia cannot connect to a 3Gs's personal hotspot. I've tried it and when I switched to Thor's ROM, I was able to connect to it.
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Hi, im in need of some assistance. I have a new android device, the Archos 5IT. my phone is the Tilt 2. i have been unable to get my tilt 2 tethered to it thru wifi. reason being that the xda wifi router app uses adhoc mode. the archos will only see Infrastructure connections. Someone on the archos forum said the HD2 has built in a wifi tethering app that is infrastructure mode. Can someone plz direct me to that app or another wifi tethering app that uses Infrastructure mode only? also, free apps...lol thnkx in advance i figure if i download that app, ill be good, and wont have to take this device back. plus its giving me probs trying to connect thru bt also. lol FIGURES
If you can't find a free one, I recommend WMWifiRouter (v2 and above). It lets you connect multiple devices via Wifi (infrastructure style) and Bluetooth, as well as work as a USB modem and a USB Wifi dongle.
If you have Omarket installed, just download "Mobile Wi-Fi Router." It works GREAT!
Sorry about reviving an old thread. I've been searching and trying to find this exact solution, but neither of the ones listed here are doing "Infrastructure" mode. I'm currently testing WMWifiRouter (v2.0 - build 1502, downloaded directly from their site today) and when I set up the wifi connection, it only gives an option for Ad-Hoc (or none - which is for connecting to another access-point).
Am I missing something with WMWifiRouter, or is there any other app at all that will do Infrastructure mode? I don't mind having to buy something, I just need it working.
Thanks!
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Sorry about reviving an old thread. I've been searching and trying to find this exact solution, but neither of the ones listed here are doing "Infrastructure" mode. I'm currently testing WMWifiRouter (v2.0 - build 1502, downloaded directly from their site today) and when I set up the wifi connection, it only gives an option for Ad-Hoc (or none - which is for connecting to another access-point).
Am I missing something with WMWifiRouter, or is there any other app at all that will do Infrastructure mode? I don't mind having to buy something, I just need it working.
Thanks!
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Sorry if I am not clear with your issues above.
But, Winmo 6.5 in HD2, has a native wifi tethering application.
There is an option menu (in Comm Manager) to turn on the Wifi Router.
This will make your HD2 as an Access Point. It can accept 5 devices.
Cheers..
Yes but only in adhoc mode, not in infrastructure mode, which appears to be needed for connecting some devices like psp and my new HTC flyer!
Same problem with GT 10.1 and HTC HD2
I have the wifi router program but it's not working with my galaxy tab 10.1, how can i tell if its adhoc or infrastructure signal?
total noob said:
I have the wifi router program but it's not working with my galaxy tab 10.1, how can i tell if its adhoc or infrastructure signal?
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Hi, I am researching this as well, and here is what I have found so far.
1. Android does not currently support/connect to ad-hoc WiFi, only Infrastructure mode.
2. If your Android tablet device can not see the WiFi from your phone hotspot but a PC Can, then it is probably ad-hoc, as my WinMo HTC HD2 is.
3. I have an Asus Transformer tablet with Android 3.1 and this can not see my WiFi from the WiFi hotspot settings, but my PC can see it and connect to the HD2.
4. If there is an Android ROM for your phone, (XDA Forums) that will run from the SD card, you can boot into that and use the WiFi hotspot (Tethering) from the Android ROM. This seems to work fine on my setup.
Hope this helps
really would rather not root if at all possible
since i live in fear of ending up with a very expensive brick (by messing up rooting my xoom) - has anyone come up with a way to make the winmo htc hd2 send out an infrastructure wifi signal?
eibhis said:
since i live in fear of ending up with a very expensive brick (by messing up rooting my xoom) - has anyone come up with a way to make the winmo htc hd2 send out an infrastructure wifi signal?
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Simple answer is no. Winmo 6.5 will not do infrastructure wifi hotspot, no matter whether native Winmo app or a 3rd party app (i.e., WMWifirouter). You're going to have to do what I'm doing with my HD2. Go thru the learning process of installing an Android build on your SD card, and then boot into Android. You've very little risk of bricking the HD2 if you read carefully and follow the guides. [However, these guides are definitely written by geeks, not editors who write and re-write to be explicitly clear.] Supposedly, the Android Wifi router is infrastructure, but I've not yet gotten to that point in my own process. The first one I tried to install (AmeriCanAndroid) didn't complete booting up successfully, so I tried another Android build (MIUI), but in it I'm not finding a wifi tethering app. And, in it, the Market app is crashing. So, I'm now on the search for a 3rd Android build. The payoff is big (wifi tethering to my Viewpad 7 tablet), so I persevere. Good luck to you on your journey.
so with my minimal knowledge of phone stuffs ive kinda learned that when i run the wireless tether for root app on my phone it uses ad hoc to supply other computers with internet... basically im asking, will my evo be able to supply my xoom with internet?
Not at the moment, no support for Ad-Hoc networks in HC, not sure if there ever will be - very annoying.
I'm not sure but I believe there is a new version of Wireless Tether that will allow such a connection. When I first tried the Kindle connecting to my DX, it wouldn't connect. With the new version, it does.
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My Xoom connects to my DX with no problems.
Go download Wireless Tether from the website. The experimental one is called Wifi Tether now. Works like a charm for infrastructure mode so that the Xoom can tether with your phone. Also Bluetooth seems to work fine as well.
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Is the Wireless tether for the phone or the Xoom (or both)? I need an option for the iPhone in case the steps posted here won't work!
is this an app that enables ad-hoc detection on the Xoom,
or
does it just provide a full wifi hotspot tethering feature for Android devices?
I also use an iPhone which supplies an ad-hoc hotspot connection that I need my Xoom to recognize and connect to.
So does that mean you got it to work that way? Is the app available through the Market?
No its not available in the market. Google wireless tether and look for wifi tether. The new app sends the signal via infrastructure mode. I think it applies to certain phone like Droid X and EVO.
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The Wireless Tether app is ran on the host phone wanting to be turned into a wifi hotspot. There are certain phones that run in Ad-Hoc mode in default (aka Droid 1) and the only option to tether the Xoom to them is via bluetooth. As others have said, the new version "WiFi Tether" is apparently enabling infrastructure mode rather than Ad-hoc mode, something that the Xoom can actually connect to.
There is no app that you install on the Xoom. When the WiFi Tether is ran on the host device, the Xoom just connects to it as a WiFi router and works just fine (or bluetooth if thats what you're doing).
So OP, if you can't get the new version of WiFi tether to work for you and your Xoom, try the Bluetooth tethering option, it's been shown in detail in a thread here how to do it, and it should work just fine.
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Is the Wireless tether for the phone or the Xoom (or both)? I need an option for the iPhone in case the steps posted here won't work!
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The app is for android, and for the host device not the Xoom, so you'll need to Bluetooth tether your iPhone.
wpa_supplicant
I understand exactly what the OP is talking about, as i'm trying to do the same thing. What makes matters worse, is that ad-hoc connections ARE possible in android. Meaning android can connect to ad-hoc networks, but it requires swapping out the wpa_suppplicant file in system/bin with a modified one that doesn't filter out ad-hoc networks.
i've even tested this on my EVO, and it connects to other android phones incapable of broadcasting in infrastructure mode, it even connects to my ubuntu netbook broadcasting in ad-hoc...
(if you want to see what i'm talking, just search the forums for wpa_supplicant, something will turn up )
I've tried doing the same "fix" with my xoom, but it doesn't take. Using ADB or root explorer, i've replaced the orignal (making sure to save a copy just in case) and fixed permissions to 775, but it doesn't take. The wifi antenna will turn on, but it doesn't find anything once being replaced, not even saved networks or access points. I can get wifi back by restoring my backup, but i'm at a loss as to why it doesn't work on the xoom (3.0) but does with my evo (2.3).
as a side note, i'm using the right replacement for the wpa version returned by entering
"wpa_supplicant -v" in a terminal emulator or adb. It returns version v0.6.10 and there is a working, modified, v0.6.10 that should make things work, but doesn't....
anyway, if anyone has any input, i would love to hear it!
I am in the same boat. Regardless of whatever permission settings I have tried (mentioned in the dev forums that I can't yet post in), I still get a dead wifi with the new supplicant file.
Ah, I feel better now. It must have been the supplicant file, as I found this other one and it worked without permission modifications first time out.
You will have to google "xoom supplicant" and use the file found on the first response (android.net)-I can't post the link- the downside to attitude having, overlord type forums is inability for new users to provide any help, or at least with any convenience.
i try connecting my xoom to my computer, and it wouldn't work. i have the "Intel My Wifi Technology" but each time i set up a connection, the xoom finds it, but will take like a minute trying to connect and all i see on the xoom is "Obtaining IP address". it shows on my computer that a new device is connected. maybe this only works computer to computer. cuz i have had success with another laptop connecting to my computer with no problem.
I am using the Launchpad kernel and the WPASupplicant file and am connected to my phone's ad-Hoc network now. I used the beta Wi-Fi Tether and it worked great, but crashed my Samsung Galaxy S at least twice a day. So I installed the WPA file without setting any special permissions, just used Root Explorer to copy it an it worked fine.
Is there a way to connect on a ad-hoc hostet by a laptop (win7) yet?
That would be interesting, cause if it work this way, it will work for every phone or something else!
Hey Guys,
i am having a little problem. i am using the Intel My Wifi Technology. and i don't know if i am doiing something wrong or this is just not possible. but i try connecting my xoom to my laptop, and it is not working or connecting. i get a message on the xoom that say's Obtaining IP address", but nothing happen on the xoom. is this not yet possible on the xoom. i don't know if this is consider ad-hoc network or not, cuz i am new to all this.
but here is the link to intel website for the program i am using as a wifi hotspot.
http://www.intel.com/products/wireless/mywifi.htm
and here is a video of what the program does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuAQjR76A68
anyone with knowlwdge on this please help me understand what i am doing wrong or not doing. or even if this is a possibility.
If you're not opposed to rooting your Xoom, here's another option. I just unlocked and rooted my WiFi-only Xoom yesterday, and inserted the supplicant file in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033314
It works like a charm! I'm running a WinMo Touch Pro 2 with WMWiFiRouter, and the Xoom now sees and properly connects to Ad Hoc networks. And, it still works with all other networks.
I don't know which way you prefer to attack the problem (from the Xoom or the phone), but I've been thrilled ever since I got all this done yesterday. Everything else on the Xoom is great, and now I've got the working SD card as well.
supremecream06 said:
Hey Guys,
i am having a little problem. i am using the Intel My Wifi Technology. and i don't know if i am doiing something wrong or this is just not possible. but i try connecting my xoom to my laptop, and it is not working or connecting. i get a message on the xoom that say's Obtaining IP address", but nothing happen on the xoom. is this not yet possible on the xoom. i don't know if this is consider ad-hoc network or not, cuz i am new to all this.
but here is the link to intel website for the program i am using as a wifi hotspot.
http://www.intel.com/products/wireless/mywifi.htm
and here is a video of what the program does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuAQjR76A68
anyone with knowlwdge on this please help me understand what i am doing wrong or not doing. or even if this is a possibility.
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Is it right that you host a Wifi on your computer and tether internet to you tablet? I think its the usual problem android and ad-hoch, witch not work!
So all of our phones with Wifi hotspot features create an ADHOC connection which Honeycomb does not support. Same goes with Bluetooth, no DUN. Google what the hell? Ya ya,carriers this and carriers that but what about people paying for hotspot features on the phone. I have customers that I need to setup to pair with the TF but it seems nothing will work without rooting and that can be phone specific. So the TF is great as long as you are close to a WIFI connection is supports?
If I'm missing something someone please fill me in.
~DC
think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine
Welcome to Android.
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think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine
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Are you rooted?
Are you simply pairing or using another app on your phone?
Can you run through your connection steps?
Thanks,
~DC
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Welcome to Android.
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But why would they do this knowing what the phones support?
~DC
I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.
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I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.
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The hotspot feature on your ROM is supporting a true wifi connection and not peer to peer adhoc. I can't always root customers phones.
~DC
I may be misunderstanding how it works, but this isn't a wireless tether baked into the ROM, it's the built-in Sprint hotspot feature that I'm using, just unlocked so I don't have to pay extra. If someone was paying for the hotspot feature on Sprint, they wouldn't need root, but maybe this is only the case with Sprint's implementation.
i was able to do both wifi and bluetooth tethering. took me a while to figure out, (since i've never done it before, less due to the difficulty of doing it)
assuming the phone supports Bluetooth tethering, it should always work.
I have a DroidX and I can tether using the built in stock Hotspot feature or with Bluetooth. However, I can't tether using an ad hoc connection because I get an error stating that the device doesn't support ad hoc connections...
So, it is definitely device specific and it will be something the carriers remove as many report being able to do so with root (my device is rooted and I can't connect via ad hoc - although, I haven't d/l or tried out the pdaNet app).
I will also add that the bluetooth tethering has worked MUCH better than the wifi - easier/faster to connect, runs pretty fast, and my phone doesn't overheat as much....
Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?
I went into a store to try a tf and there was no internet so I turned on my WiFi hotspot on my sgsII and it worked perfectly fine, not sure if that's the same as you're asking but that works.
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Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?
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Are you rooted?
~DC
Any HTC thunderbolt users reading this that have tried hotspot?
~DC
a lot of clarification
Hi all,
I need your help, understanding ... well everything about wifi/TF/WM6.5/adhoc and whatever the other connection is?
I don't think of myself as a noob, but to be honest I'm lost with the wifi on the TF. So here it goes: I have TF and HD2. Under WM6.5 I can't get the TF to see the shared internet through the "wifi router" application on the phone. But then I run a custom Desire HD ROM and this one (can't remember the application) shares and gives access to the TF?!?!
First off, which is which? Which is adhoc and which is infrastructure? And what is the difference (sorry i did look on the internet, but that got me confused even more because I could not see any difference). Are you saying that a standard (not rooted Android) will have the same problem? I was thinking of switching to an android phone so that I can get the easy sharing option, but if I have to root a brand new phone????
Any help will be appreciated,
rio
Easy way to tether off a rooted phone.
Install one of the older versions of wireless tether that supports bluetooth.
Turn on the bluetooth DUN on wireless tether.
Hit ok when it asks to turn on Bluetooth and make discoverable.
On the transformer go to settings-wireless-bluetooth
Scan for your device and pair.
Once paired you should see a little wrench next to your device, click on it
Under Profiles, it should show tethering with a checkbox. Click this and in a few seconds Wireless tether should buzz its connected and off you go.
I've been able to tether my transformer like this since out of the box.
Edit - BTW I've tried this with PDAnet and other non rooted tehtering programs, and I couldn't get it to work with those options. Just FYI
the difference between ad-hoc and infrastructure is the way devices communicate.
infrastructure is kinda like the way we send messages via the post office. we send it to a central place, then it figures out how to deliver the message. this is how true routers operate
ad-hoc is peer-to-peer. imagine passing notes back in elementary school.
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some phones comes with a tethering app without having to root, but this typically requires you to pay extra fee to your carrier ($30 for sprint)
if you don't want to pay that, then you have to root your phone to either get a rom that already supports infrastructure mode, or download an app that does. [ ie Wifi Tether ]
people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.
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people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.
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You are right. I put Honeycomb 3.1 in the title but forgot to mention in the OP if anyone heard that 3.1 would have support for DUN or Ad Hoc.
Sorry for any confusion I might have caused
~DC
Edit: I posted misinformation.
I just took the plunge in to sd android on my TMOUSA HTC HD2.
I am using AmeriCanAndroid all stock HD2.
Previously I was able to tether to a vista laptop with wm6.5 fine. I am trying to use the wifi tether on the the android side now.
My goal is to tether to a unrooted Acer A500 Iconia. I am not sure if it is possible. I have read a ton and can't seem to find a clear answer to this problem. Several people talk about rooting the A500 so it can see a ad-hoc wifi tether. Unless I misunderstood I also read that a rooted android phone could be a real wifi hotspot not just an ad-hoc connection. I am not sure if I am mistaken or not. If someone could clear this up it would be great.
I am not sure if I am doing the tethering correctly on android. I setup the tethering with a SSID, encryption and the like. the A500 sees the wifi SSID but can't seem to obtain a IP address.
The odd thing is that when I start the wifi tether the yellow wifi icon starts in the top right corner of the phone. Then another wifi looking icon starts next to it. it says tethering and wifi hot spot. I have tried using it also but the system locks and reboots. if I don't mess with the second tethering and wife hotspot it doesn't reboot, but i still can't connect.
The strange thing is that the main tethering lets me setup SSID and the like but the tethering and wife hotspot will let me setup a different SSID. I am not sure why they aren't connected.
I thought this all had to do with the unrooted A500 but I tried the same windows laptop that I had tethered to with wm6.5 and it can see the wifi on the phone but can't connect.
Thanks for any ideas.
Is there a way to plug our phones into tablets and use the 3g service from our phones to our tablets.... Sorta like a modem for on the go.. Instead of using wifi tethering? Not sure if it's been done or not thought it would be a good idea tho
Do a quick search, it has been discussed extensively in other threads. You can use PdaNet Tablet if your phone support bluetooh.
No. Simple answer.
The 500 does not have this capability, Because it doesn;t have the radio to accommodate it.
Physical limitation
so my best bet for Internet on the go is tethering from my phone?
If you want to connect your tablet to a phone you will need to root your tablet.
The tablet doesn't support Ad-hoc connectivity out of the box. Many wi-fi hotspot features on phones use Ad-hoc to connect.
I also remember a while back I was trying to see if I could connect my stock Tablet to the personal hotspot of somebody's iPhone 3gs (connects via bluetooth) but it didn't work. I remember rooting the tablet and installing Thor's ROM and found out that now I could connect to the personal hotspot. Not sure what was in Thor's ROM to make this work though.
And as another poster said, you can try pdanet if you have an android phone. I tried it before I had an Android phone and it wouldn't work (even though the phone still had pdanet on it), and have not tried it since because my phone has wifi-hotspot.
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Is there a way to plug our phones into tablets and use the 3g service from our phones to our tablets.... Sorta like a modem for on the go.. Instead of using wifi tethering? Not sure if it's been done or not thought it would be a good idea tho
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Depends on your phone really. Android is easy enough rooted + wifi tether for root. Non-smartphone takes a little work, but isn't that bad. Check tut on getting usb to 'dumbphone' modem working. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1452800
...or you can use 3G modem and take these steps to use it with your tablet http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633086