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[DEV's] OMG PLEASE .. For The Love Of God! - WE NEED A BACKUP PROGRAM!

I am Soooo Sick of re-installing Nand Roms ..
Try this .. nope it sucks .. try this .. nope that sucks ..
Flash back and reinstall everything! ( Hits Head On Desk~! )
So I am Asking for your help!
There Needs to be a way to backup the entire nand rom!
( Not Just The Programs - And Data )
So you can try different roms .. and go-back to one that kinda works! lol
( have tried sooo many that I wanna kill myself! - No I am No Kidding! )
I can not tell you how many times I have got a rom working 98% and
then install something .. or change just ONE setting ..
And BOOOOM .. It Doesnt work right ever again!
Dam ClockWork Is Freaking Crazy Hard ..
Or I am Way To Stupid to do it .. And If I am How Many Others?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898913
Partion This .. Do that .. Nope that doesn't work .. try this .. nope~!
( Have you seen All the problems in the forms? )
There has to be an EASY WAY TO BACKUP!
And Yes I Have Tried .. My Backup and Titanium Backup They SUCK!
They Do Not Work Well .. And Do Not Backup All Settings And Files!
( Yes I know They Say They Do .. No They Don't )
+ You Cant use them on different roms .. Screws Things Up .. I Know I Have Tried!
We Need something very simple ..
Just like how DFT Team made it with MAGLDR 1.11
SIMPLE - Easy - Works Every Freaking Time!!
Something that makes (1) Img file that gets copied to the SD Card!
No Partions Ect. Crap .. Then you could just Flash it back
I am Looking for a Complete NAND Memory Backup Program more like ..
Acronis or Ghost That Does an Image of the complete Nand Memory.
Something Universal .. would not matter if you use NAND or ZIP Or > Whatever comes next! to install Android
I figure .. If we can backup using "clockwork" maybe it could not be that hard
to make a program .. that will Image the Nand from Sec. 0 - 99999.
I am trying to express my feelings and MANY others I have seen in other threads.
That we need a SIMPLE.. way to backup the ENTIRE NAND And Do A Restore.
Maybe a VERY Striped Down Ver Of Clockwork Of Some Type ..
And I Would Hit The DONATE Button ..
So Freaking Fast It Would Make Your Head Spin!
And I Am Sure MANY Others Would to!
I Am Hoping A DEV Or Someone WAY Smarter then All Of Us Will Make
A Program That Will Do this .. Thats What This Thread Is About ..
HELP! PLEASE HELP! OMG PLEASE ..
Before I Kill Myself! The Wife And Kids A Depending on you!

I don't see the difficulty of installing CWM, it's descripted nicely:
For new user;
1. download one of the partition files, if you don't know which one you need, use the 250M one or check with rom developer.
2. Extract downloaded zip to a folder of your choice
3. Copy contents of copy_to_sd_root (initrd.gz and zImage) to the root of your sd card
4. boot into magldr and select USB Flasher option while phone is connected to PC
5. Run DAF.exe included in the zip and follow onscreen instructions.
6. After complete, again boot into magldr and select "Boot AD SD" option
7. ClockworkMod recovery should load, you can flash a rom from here.
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Inside CWM, do a Nandroid backup and you're good.
Oh and Titanium backup works very well, you probably just don't know how to use it properly. Also, not all settings can be easily recovered among different ROMs, because, you know, the ROMs are different.

I haven't got time to follow every single [Tutorial] thread in here,
so don't know if there is a solution to back-up everything into 1 file (similar to *.ghost back-up file in Window).
Thus, +1 with the demand of WarLockW above

Read my post?

WarlockW said:
Dam ClockWork Is Freaking Crazy Hard ..
Or I am Way To Stupid to do it .. And If I am How Many Others?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898913
Partion This .. Do that .. Nope that doesn't work .. try this .. nope~!
( Have you seen All the problems in the forms? )
There has to be an EASY WAY TO BACKUP!
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So, what is the main problem with CWM ?

uxu said:
So, what is the main problem with CWM ?
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Um ...
Dam ClockWork Is Freaking Crazy Hard ..
Or I am Way To Stupid to do it .. And If I am How Many Others?
( Have you seen All the problems in the forms? )
Lets say it again ..
( Have you seen All the problems in the forms? )

StephanV said:
I don't see the difficulty of installing CWM, it's descripted nicely:
Also, not all settings can be easily recovered among different ROMs, because, you know, the ROMs are different.
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Right .. you can not .. use the settings .. Not thats the point of this ..
The Point is we need a easy way to backup CURRENT ROM .. and restore it.
Without having to do 1000 things that may or may not work.
1. download one of the partition files, if you don't know which one you need, use the 250M one or check with rom developer.
( Were does that go ? And Why Do you need it ? - What One Do I Need ? - Again Hmmm .. )
2. Extract downloaded zip to a folder of your choice
3. Copy contents of copy_to_sd_root (initrd.gz and zImage) to the root of your sd card
4. boot into magldr and select USB Flasher option while phone is connected to PC
5. Run DAF.exe included in the zip and follow onscreen instructions.
( Were is that installed? - Why Do you need to do it ? - Does it Erase your Current Rom? )
6. After complete, again boot into magldr and select "Boot AD SD" option
7. ClockworkMod recovery should load, you can flash a rom from here.
( Have you Looked at the Menu's ? ) Hmmm .. Ok then ..
Ok .. Or Run a program that has two Options ?
Backup .. Restore ..
Hmmm .. Wonder whats easier ?

WarlockW said:
Um ...
Dam ClockWork Is Freaking Crazy Hard ..
Or I am Way To Stupid to do it .. And If I am How Many Others?
( Have you seen All the problems in the forms? )
Lets say it again ..
( Have you seen All the problems in the forms? )
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Never had any problems backing up with cwm. I can always go back and forth between nand builds.
Sent from my HD2 Glacier using XDA App

jose makalolot said:
Never had any problems backing up with cwm. I can always go back and forth between nand builds.
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Well .. your one of the lucky ones then :/
I have tried .. and it never works for me ...
But Again .. I am dumb .. and may others are too ..
We Need a SIMPLE Way to back up these dam roms ..
That works 99-100% of the time .. and dont have to worry is this rom compatible with this partion ect.
MAGLDR 1.11 works 100% and is easy!
Thats all I am Saying .. SIMPLE Being the key word~!

Imagine a backup inside of MAGLDR. That would be great. I want to try different ROM's but like you, find CWM too confusing. Even if I do back up a ROM using CWM where does it save? And how do I restore it if the ROM I flashed isn't to my liking? Does the whole ROM be in the file or just your data, apps, settings etc?
Sent from my FutureShocks HD2 MIUI using XDA App

use cwm
wtf is confusing there?
put the files on sdcard and choose boot AD sd (in MAGLDR),done
seriously. no need to invent the wheel a second time because it is too difficult to use (it isn't)

Skellyyy said:
Imagine a backup inside of MAGLDR. That would be great. I want to try different ROM's but like you, find CWM too confusing. Even if I do back up a ROM using CWM where does it save? And how do I restore it if the ROM I flashed isn't to my liking? Does the whole ROM be in the file or just your data, apps, settings etc?
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Right! .. See ? I an Not the Only One !
I did talk to Cotulla but he seems to think ..
Ya, I though about such feature. But it looks to work very slow!
Like I care if its SLOW ~!
SLOW Compared to what ?
Reinstalling everything ? LOL

Skellyyy said:
Imagine a backup inside of MAGLDR. That would be great. I want to try different ROM's but like you, find CWM too confusing. Even if I do back up a ROM using CWM where does it save? And how do I restore it if the ROM I flashed isn't to my liking? Does the whole ROM be in the file or just your data, apps, settings etc?
Sent from my FutureShocks HD2 MIUI using XDA App
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It is saved in separate files, data.img, cache.img, boot.img, system.img, recovery.img. You can find it in clockworkmod folder in your sd card.
Sent from my HD2 Glacier using XDA App

birdra said:
use cwm
wtf is confusing there?
put the files on sdcard and choose boot AD sd (in MAGLDR),done
seriously. no need to invent the wheel a second time because it is too difficult to use (it isn't)
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Sigh ..
Yea .. Well if it is that easy .. Why Does it never work for me ?
When MAGLDR works everytime ?
And Others .. ( Have you seen All the problems in the forms? )

I really don't like this arrogant tone you're using. It's obviously you who doesn't know how you gotta take care of all this stuff, so a little more respect towards others trying to help you won't harm.
Anyway, here it goes.
WarlockW said:
The Point is we need a easy way to backup CURRENT ROM .. and restore it.
Without having to do 1000 things that may or may not work.
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Yeah, I don't really see any tool backing up a future or old ROM, cause you know, that's not possible. Nandroid is really just 1 thing, and it always works.
1. download one of the partition files, if you don't know which one you need, use the 250M one or check with rom developer.
( Were does that go ? And Why Do you need it ? - What One Do I Need ? - Again Hmmm .. )
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Where that goes is explained in step 3. Patience, young padawan. Which one you need is pointed out too: 250M, unless your rom dev told you to do otherwise. Having problems reading?
Why you need it? Because it's a necessary file, obviously. If you wouldn't need it, you wouldn't have to download it. I don't think you're after some technical in-depth analysis either, so just do as you're told. Easy, right?
2. Extract downloaded zip to a folder of your choice
3. Copy contents of copy_to_sd_root (initrd.gz and zImage) to the root of your sd card
4. boot into magldr and select USB Flasher option while phone is connected to PC
5. Run DAF.exe included in the zip and follow onscreen instructions.
( Were is that installed? - Why Do you need to do it ? - Does it Erase your Current Rom? )
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Surprisingly, DAF.exe is in the zip file you just downloaded. Why do you need to do it? You're installing something here ffs, do you expect to magically install CWM without doing anything?
Yes it does, that's also mentioned in the thread.
6. After complete, again boot into magldr and select "Boot AD SD" option
7. ClockworkMod recovery should load, you can flash a rom from here.
( Have you Looked at the Menu's ? ) Hmmm .. Ok then ..
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Which menu's? Boot AD SD is indeed in the Magldr menu, flashing a zip is indeed in the CWM menu's. Yes, it's in a submenu.
Ok .. Or Run a program that has two Options ?
Backup .. Restore ..
Hmmm .. Wonder whats easier ?
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Yeah, that would indeed be easier. So quit all the whining and use CWM, seriously.

can any one help?
I tried installing CWM using the tutorial show many times and get a load kernel error does anyone know what the problem is?

tdizzle404 said:
I tried installing CWM using the tutorial show many times and get a load kernel error does anyone know what the problem is?
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yeah...PEBCAM

TheATHEiST said:
yeah...PEBCAM
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well your the first to give me an answer! Thnx! I hit thnx" But i dont know WTF that means? "lol"

WarlockW said:
Right! .. See ? I an Not the Only One !
I did talk to Cotulla but he seems to think ..
Ya, I though about such feature. But it looks to work very slow!
Like I care if its SLOW ~!
SLOW Compared to what ?
Reinstalling everything ? LOL
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I thought cotulla is putting recovery into the next version of magldr, isn't he?

tdizzle404 said:
I tried installing CWM using the tutorial show many times and get a load kernel error does anyone know what the problem is?
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me too...finally i give up from installing CWR 1.2 and went for the CWR 1.0 and every thing went alright.

Move from one ROM to another

Hi Guys,
I want to move from this ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159
to this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
My question is do I have to do task29 and do the whole process again or should I just install CWR in the new ROM?
Cos as you can see the partition is different on the new one.
Did I miss anything else?
Thanks guys

Good choice of Rom
Just follow the instructions in the new Rom,
Yes you do need a smaller partition layout.
Personally I run a task29 everytime I change then re do magldr and install the appropriate size cwm
But people tell me all the time there is no need, but people always run into problems I never do
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App

i never do task 29 and also never had problems. i think it's enough if you install the new cwm partition and flash your rom. maybe format your sd. this is causing more problems than not doing a task 29 and installing all again.

imo
I ran the nexus rom for a few weeks and was not impressed. Dorimanx High End with swap by far outperforms it, but thats just my opinion. Everyone has their own rom preference.

hi..
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Dont mind

You know I don't do a task 29 & I don't repartition my phone if its a smaller size either. I do make sure I wipe everything & do a back up each time though but I like to go back and forth between ROMs on the go when I'm not by a computer. I haven't ran into any problems (cross my fingers) yet & I been doing this for months. I think if a ROM calls for let's say 300 but you already partitioned it to 450 it will be fine & you won't need to do it again. I'm not trying to say you really shouldn't follow all the steps it says to take because you really should, but this works for me and I'm jus lazy.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

htccraze said:
You know I don't do a task 29 & I don't repartition my phone if its a smaller size either. I do make sure I wipe everything & do a back up each time though but I like to go back and forth between ROMs on the go when I'm not by a computer. I haven't ran into any problems (cross my fingers) yet & I been doing this for months. I think if a ROM calls for let's say 300 but you already partitioned it to 450 it will be fine & you won't need to do it again. I'm not trying to say you really shouldn't follow all the steps it says to take because you really should, but this works for me and I'm jus lazy.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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It will run fine unless your partition is to small, but if you run a Rom that needs a partition of 200 and you put it on a partition of 400 your wasting 200mb of valuable internal space
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App

Thanks guys. What I found out was its always better to do task29 every time I change the rom. Better performance and apps will run smoothly.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

[Q] Magldr isnt booting.

Hi,
I'm a little frustrated right now!
I want to install this ROM:
NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.2
First problem:
I wasnt able to flash because my accept-softkey was broken.
New MMI-Board - check!
Now:
I had this ROM on my device again:
RUU_Leo_S_Vodafone_DE_3.14.162.5_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship
(Installed via SD-Card)
--
SPL 3.03 --> SPL 3.03 HSPL - check!
Radio Rom --> Radio_2.15.50.14 - check!
Task 29 - check!
Want to install Magldr --> installed / reboot but stuck at the HTC screen
So - what did I wron till now?!
Or is there anything I could do?!
The 3-colours-screen says:
PB81100 HX-BC
SPL-3.03.HSPL XE
0x05
Cortulla HSPL 0x50
On the SD Card are:
1. LEOIMG.nbh (The Vodafone ROM)
2. NexusHD2-JellyBean-CM10_V1.2.zip
Thx in advance

try flash hspl2.08 and then flash magldr .I have forgotten if you need to set maldr space for install the rom.If it need keep follow the instructions on tytung's suggestion.And I think you have to give it 350mb space.
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Shefe91 said:
Hi,
I'm a little frustrated right now!
I want to install this ROM:
NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.2
First problem:
I wasnt able to flash because my accept-softkey was broken.
New MMI-Board - check!
Now:
I had this ROM on my device again:
RUU_Leo_S_Vodafone_DE_3.14.162.5_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship
(Installed via SD-Card)
--
SPL 3.03 --> SPL 3.03 HSPL - check!
Radio Rom --> Radio_2.15.50.14 - check!
Task 29 - check!
Want to install Magldr --> installed / reboot but stuck at the HTC screen
So - what did I wron till now?!
Or is there anything I could do?!
The 3-colours-screen says:
PB81100 HX-BC
SPL-3.03.HSPL XE
0x05
Cortulla HSPL 0x50
On the SD Card are:
1. LEOIMG.nbh (The Vodafone ROM)
2. NexusHD2-JellyBean-CM10_V1.2.zip
Thx in advance
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Disclaimer: I am a cLK user so the information I provide may not be totally accurate or up to date.
Now that's out the way I believe your issue is HSPL 3.0.3. The OP of Magldr states you need HSPL 2.0.8. This is also stated in the HSPL Reference Thread. However I am aware that both threads are rather old, but I would try downgrading your HSPL to 2.0.8 and reinstalling magldr.

That was the reason!
Thank you guys
But what is 3.03.HSPL good for?!

needed for running 3.14 winmo roms on a regular hd2 (because 3.14 roms are very unstable if the spl ISNT 3.03 whn on regular hd2)

samsamuel said:
needed for running 3.14 winmo roms on a regular hd2 (because 3.14 roms are very unstable if the spl ISNT 3.03 whn on regular hd2)
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Thank you!
It seems you know a lot about that topic - so may you can answer this question, too (everyone else can add a answer as well) - I would like how to set the values from this table:
misc ya 1M
recovery rrecov|ro|nospr 7M recovery_leo.img
boot yboot|ro 5M
system ya 220M
cache ya 2M
userdata ya|asize|hr allsize
(I am using magldr - and want to use the ROM (mentioned in the first post) as nativeSD
Where can I set this values?
I didnt found really helpful answers up to know

Shefe91 said:
Thank you!
It seems you know a lot about that topic - so may you can answer this question, too (everyone else can add a answer as well) - I would like how to set the values from this table:
misc ya 1M
recovery rrecov|ro|nospr 7M recovery_leo.img
boot yboot|ro 5M
system ya 220M
cache ya 2M
userdata ya|asize|hr allsize
(I am using magldr - and want to use the ROM (mentioned in the first post) as nativeSD
Where can I set this values?
I didnt found really helpful answers up to know
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The easiest way is to download the HD2 NAND Toolkit, with which repartitioning is fairly self-explanatory. There are also guides in the OP of the link so I doubt you'll have any trouble using it.
Alternatively, you can do the following:
1. Download CWM from the original thread or from the NAND flashing guide in my sig
2. Open the CWM folder then find the file 'flash.cfg' (not flash.cfg.txt)
3. Open flash.cfg with Notepad
4. Edit it to be the same as you posted and save it
5. Boot into MAGLDR and go to USB flasher
6. Connect your phone to your PC and run the CWM installer.
In your post, it also says that you want to run the ROM as NativeSD. I don't know anything about NativeSD, but I thought that since it runs from the SD card it shouldn't require CWM partitoning? I think you're getting confused here between the instructions to flash NAND Android and the instructions for NativeSD. If someone knows otherwise, then please correct me since I don't want to be spreading incorrect info.

Thank you for the answer - i thought it might be possible to adjust the values anywhere in magldr - because with the NAND-Tool its just possible to take more or less values in 50's steps
Then the next thing with the adjustment with the flash.cfg was the \RSPL\RSPL.cpp (723) but I just had to get rid of a tick in activesync.
Lets see if its now working correctly -last time I installed Jelly Bean everytime i downloades something from the market it just rebootet ...
€: Its working (yay) - but I would still like to know the things

Shefe91 said:
Thank you for the answer - i thought it might be possible to adjust the values anywhere in magldr - because with the NAND-Tool its just possible to take more or less values in 50's steps
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choose custom
Then the next thing with the adjustment with the flash.cfg was the \RSPL\RSPL.cpp (723) but I just had to get rid of a tick in activesync.
Lets see if its now working correctly -last time I installed Jelly Bean everytime i downloades something from the market it just rebootet ...
€: Its working (yay) - but I would still like to know the things
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Shefe91 said:
Thank you!
It seems you know a lot about that topic - so may you can answer this question, too (everyone else can add a answer as well) - I would like how to set the values from this table:
misc ya 1M
recovery rrecov|ro|nospr 7M recovery_leo.img
boot yboot|ro 5M
system ya 220M
cache ya 2M
userdata ya|asize|hr allsize
(I am using magldr - and want to use the ROM (mentioned in the first post) as nativeSD
Where can I set this values?
I didnt found really helpful answers up to know
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I don't think that you have enough space.I have tried 220.I start the system difficultly.And after start the system,the dev is laggy sometimes.And you can't restart it again.

wxl104 said:
I don't think that you have enough space.I have tried 220.I start the system difficultly.And after start the system,the dev is laggy sometimes.And you can't restart it again.
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Yeah - you need 300. Then everything is fine - that was my problem first, too!
Everytime I downloaded something from the Playstore - reboot! now everything is cool
Thank you for the answer - i thought it might be possible to adjust the values anywhere in magldr - because with the NAND-Tool its just possible to take more or less values in 50's steps
choose custom
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Yeah and when I choose this where do I set the values then?
& Is there really no option via magldr?
Btw. everything is fine right now - but I want still to know that stuff

You can't change the partition sizes from within MAGLDR, unfortunately. It's not so bad for someone like me who doesn't really flash ROMs too much, but for self-professed 'flashaholics' it's pretty annoying. If you really desperately need that function for whatever reason, you can flash cLK 1.5

Choose custom, and after you hit re partition a popup asks you what size. (does no one ever just try anything and see what happens nowadays;? ? )

Nigeldg said:
You can't change the partition sizes from within MAGLDR, unfortunately. It's not so bad for someone like me who doesn't really flash ROMs too much, but for self-professed 'flashaholics' it's pretty annoying. If you really desperately need that function for whatever reason, you can flash cLK 1.5
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Thank you for that information but cLK and native-sd seems not to work so easily like magldr for me
& I do not change the ROMs that often that it would be annoying but it would have been pretty nice.
samsamuel said:
Choose custom, and after you hit re partition a popup asks you what size. (does no one ever just try anything and see what happens nowadays;? ? )
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Ah, okay.
'nd no ... im not flashing that often and I dont want to do soemething really stupid :angel:

Just got a new HD2. Recovery / root head start.

Hi guys.
Yesterday I got a used HTC HD2. It is installed with android nand and the DFT (Dark Forces Team) rom, I think taken from the DESIRE (according to the information on the 'About').
The main problem in the device is that it has really bit memory! After installing few apps, I cant download a thing :/
So I searched for the problem and I've realized that I need to make a partition on the SD-CARD. However I saw that in the market there are apps that allow moving the application that can only sit in the internal memory to the external memory.
I then found out that the phone doesn't have root access too. (Although it came with SUPERUSER app as default).
I can't find the main thread of the rom in order to ask there how to root the device.
Which software / app, will I need recovery installed (althogh I don't think it requires) and ETC.
Please can someone direct me or just give me names of apps/softwares/guides/anything :crying:
I guess GOOGLE could be my assitstant from there.
I'm afraid to follow guides that I don't sure will work properly with my phone's software.
Thank you.

pelegm28 said:
Hi guys.
Yesterday I got a used HTC HD2. It is installed with android nand and the DFT (Dark Forces Team) rom, I think taken from the DESIRE (according to the information on the 'About').
The main problem in the device is that it has really bit memory! After installing few apps, I cant download a thing :/
So I searched for the problem and I've realized that I need to make a partition on the SD-CARD. However I saw that in the market there are apps that allow moving the application that can only sit in the internal memory to the external memory.
I then found out that the phone doesn't have root access too. (Although it came with SUPERUSER app as default).
I can't find the main thread of the rom in order to ask there how to root the device.
Which software / app, will I need recovery installed (althogh I don't think it requires) and ETC.
Please can someone direct me or just give me names of apps/softwares/guides/anything :crying:
I guess GOOGLE could be my assitstant from there.
I'm afraid to follow guides that I don't sure will work properly with my phone's software.
Thank you.
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look for guides in this forum...about nativSD and dataonEXT...very helpful (that's how i learned what i need to know about the device)...also i recommend to change the rom to a better or newer version of android...you will also find guides about changing the rom...

eliaskammas said:
look for guides in this forum...about nativSD and dataonEXT...very helpful (that's how i learned what i need to know about the device)...also i recommend to change the rom to a better or newer version of android...you will also find guides about changing the rom...
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Hi,
Thank you for your kindly help.
Which Android version do you suggest to change to ?
ICS ? Or maybe GingerBread ?
And BTW I entered before to the MAGDLR menu, chosed the " AD Recovery " option and it said something like " no boot source ".
Does that mean that I don't have a recovery installed ?
And if so, will I need to install it first and then change the rom ?
Again, Thank you for your help.
Peleg.

yes you will need recovery...fast roms are mostly GB but ICS are as good as well...GB need less space on rom memory so if you don't install alot of craps as most of us do the remaining space will be fine for your data...ICS have hwa, apps work faster and games play better..I recommend ICS by tytung to be honest(very fast and stable)...when you download the recovery you will see a "flash.cfg" file...on the rom thread the developer will state the partitions needed for his rom and so you change the numbers on that file accordingly before flashing the recovery...but always make system space little bigger than needed just in case(and to avoid other problems that i will have a finger cramp if i write them down.! )

eliaskammas said:
yes you will need recovery...fast roms are mostly GB but ICS are as good as well...GB need less space on rom memory so if you don't install alot of craps as most of us do the remaining space will be fine for your data...ICS have hwa, apps work faster and games play better..I recommend ICS by tytung to be honest(very fast and stable)...when you download the recovery you will see a "flash.cfg" file...on the rom thread the developer will state the partitions needed for his rom and so you change the numbers on that file accordingly before flashing the recovery...but always make system space little bigger than needed just in case(and to avoid other problems that i will have a finger cramp if i write them down.! )
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Thank you.
I will first install the recovery, but I guess I'll have to read a lot before:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837
Then I will search for a guide for installing recovery-
CWM will be great right ?
Thank you very much !!! :laugh:

The guide you linked is very useful and makes everything clear. I strongly recommend reading it thoroughly before doing anything. Once you're slightly more comfortable with the terms, you can follow the guide in my sig to flash CWM and a ROM. You already have HSPL, a compatible Radio version and MAGLDR installed so don't worry about any of those. If you happen to come across guides which say 'task29' just ignore that step, Task29ing is completely useless.
As for recommending a ROM, it depends on your usage. Eliaskammas' post sums it up nicely, but you should note that (IMO) ICS and JB will give you worse day to day performance and stability than GB but will be better for intensive activities e.g. gaming, web browsing, using content-heavy apps etc. I've also found battery drain to be marginally more on ICS and JB ROMs.

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The guide you linked is very useful and makes everything clear. I strongly recommend reading it thoroughly before doing anything. Once you're slightly more comfortable with the terms, you can follow the guide in my sig to flash CWM and a ROM. You already have HSPL, a compatible Radio version and MAGLDR installed so don't worry about any of those. If you happen to come across guides which say 'task29' just ignore that step, Task29ing is completely useless.
As for recommending a ROM, it depends on your usage. Eliaskammas' post sums it up nicely, but you should note that (IMO) ICS and JB will give you worse day to day performance and stability than GB but will be better for intensive activities e.g. gaming, web browsing, using content-heavy apps etc. I've also found battery drain to be marginally more on ICS and JB ROMs.
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Hi.
Thank you for your advices and technical help.
I will read it as soon as possible and then try to install the CWM Recovery and a better Rom.
According to what I saw, I think I will go on the "Energy rom" (Sense 3.5).
I will probably update my progresses here.
Thank you a lot.
BTW, a deodexed rom is needed for languages that are written from right to left ?
Or that I have to find a rom supports RTL ?
Beacuse for example, I've searched the thread of the Energy rom for "Hebrew" and found out that it doesn't supports RTL :/
Thank you.

I don't want to confuse you but I personally have always found Sense based ROMs to be slow and I think you should really stick to CM or MIUI. Anyway, that's really just my opinion.
Unfortunately, I think that you may have to find a ROM which supports RTL. I haven't looked into it but there may well be an app which somehow makes it work. If you're desperate for Android with Sense and RTL support then you could consider some of the SD ROMs from boxmax, he made good SD ROMs (at least when I used it), but I don't know which NAND ROMs will work for you.

Nigeldg said:
I don't want to confuse you but I personally have always found Sense based ROMs to be slow and I think you should really stick to CM or MIUI. Anyway, that's really just my opinion.
Unfortunately, I think that you may have to find a ROM which supports RTL. I haven't looked into it but there may well be an app which somehow makes it work. If you're desperate for Android with Sense and RTL support then you could consider some of the SD ROMs from boxmax, he made good SD ROMs (at least when I used it), but I don't know which NAND ROMs will work for you.
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Hi Nigeldg.
I took your advice and I think I will go on this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1639932
It supports rtl and data2ext.
But do I need to change my HD2's kernel ? To Dorimanx 's kernel ?
And from the guide that you've recommended on before, do I need to start from this part:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12656427&postcount=3
And to skip the other parts ?
I've read the hole guide and it is very helpful.
Everything is really clearer.

There's no need to change the kernel after flashing, but you can if you want to. I think the dorimanx krrnel is included in that rom anyway so i don't see why you'd want to flash it again. Follow the new way method and everything should be fine. You can use the NAND toolkit to select the appropriate partition size.

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There's no need to change the kernel after flashing, but you can if you want to. I think the dorimanx krrnel is included in that rom anyway so i don't see why you'd want to flash it again. Follow the new way method and everything should be fine. You can use the NAND toolkit to select the appropriate partition size.
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Hi Nigeldg.
I now want to install the CWM (long time hh)..
In this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1639932
It says to install CWM with this partition size:
" Flash the Latest CWR (Clockwork Recovery) with the appropriate partition sizes by using the "Repartition" button inside the HD2ToolKit: System: 200MB | Cache: 5MB "
In the thread of CWM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898913
Can I change the partition sizes used for CWM
A. You can by editing the flash.cfg but this is not recommended, CWM is designed to make it easier for switching roms, by flashing a custom partition size you may stop other roms working and require reflashing a new partition size when you want to change roms.
Q. I dont know which partition size to download
A. Depending on what type of roms you plan on using, you should choose the partition size based on the following.
150MB Partition - For bare roms including CyanogenMod, AOSP, and MiUI
250MB Partition - For Standard sense roms including Desire and EVo based ROMs, can also be used for some squashed HD builds
400MB Partition - For Larger roms including unsquashed Desire HD and Z roms, ROMs REQUIRE data2sd for EU HD2 with 512MB NAND
And in the thread in your sig it is possible to download 3 version of the CWM. (150, 250, 400).
How do I need to install the CWM ?
To download the 250MB version, and using the HD2ToolKit to change the partition size and install with System: 200MB | Cache: 5MB (as the rom developer suggested) ?
Thank you!

The thread you've linked to is the old CWM thread. I don't see why it says that you shouldn't change the partition sizes because that's simply not true, pretty much all ROMs use custom sizes. Ignore that advice, it's wrong. In my opinion the easiest thing to do is to download the HD2 NAND Toolkit, click 'MAGLDR repartition', choose 200 and you're done.

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The thread you've linked to is the old CWM thread. I don't see why it says that you shouldn't change the partition sizes because that's simply not true, pretty much all ROMs use custom sizes. Ignore that advice, it's wrong. In my opinion the easiest thing to do is to download the HD2 NAND Toolkit, click 'MAGLDR repartition', choose 200 and you're done.
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Ok.
So I've downloaded the HD2 ToolKit.
Actually what I need to do is this:
1. To choose the 200MB and 5 Cache and then press repartition. (In what way does the phone need to be ? MAGDLR Menu, or other option ? )
2. Then to install the CWM by going to MAGDLR - USB Flasher, connect to the computer, and run the
DAF.exe.
Right ?

1. Open the toolkit
2. Click the MAGLDR repartition tab and select 200 and change the cache size to 5
3. Click 'repartition' (bottom left of the toolkit)
4. Follow the instructions it gives you (boot your phone into USB flasher mode then connect it to your PC) and let it flash.

Nigeldg said:
1. Open the toolkit
2. Click the MAGLDR repartition tab and select 200 and change the cache size to 5
3. Click 'repartition' (bottom left of the toolkit)
4. Follow the instructions it gives you (boot your phone into USB flasher mode then connect it to your PC) and let it flash.
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And once I've finished this, I need to install the CWM.
To donwload the 250MB version ?

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And once I've finished this, I need to install the CWM.
To donwload the 250MB version ?
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I don't think you understand, THIS IS INSTALLING CWM :') After you've done this, just flash the .zip ROM and you'll be done

Nigeldg said:
I don't think you understand, THIS IS INSTALLING CWM :') After you've done this, just flash the .zip ROM and you'll be done
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If I've already did it, just do this thing again and it will work ?
because now my phone cant load to the rom, it says NAND Kernel something and boots up to MAGDLR.
Is it OK ?
EDIT:
I've did it and chosed the "AD Recovery" option.
Now I can see that I have CWM Recovery!!
I thought that I had to choose somehow to install the CWM, and that's why I didn't understand.
Now,
Do you recommend to do wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache ?
And after that to install from CWM the ROM that I've transferd to the Root of the SD right ?
Thank you very much !!!

You don't need to wipe anything, that already happened when you flashed CWM. Yes you should just have to flash the ROM now, as said in the guide in my sig. You may want to create an EXT partition but for your particular ROM it's not a necessary step so you can skip that. Glad I could help

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You don't need to wipe anything, that already happened when you flashed CWM. Yes you should just have to flash the ROM now, as said in the guide in my sig. You may want to create an EXT partition but for your particular ROM it's not a necessary step so you can skip that. Glad I could help
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It isn't necessary because it automaticly transfer the data to the SD ?
During the installation a message showed up saying that the rom identified that I don't have an EXT-partition installed.
Can I make a partition using the CWM/ADVANCED/PARTITION-SD ?
Thank you so much for your help!!
You saved me, and becuase of you I didn't sell the phone.
Thank you!!

It isn't necessary because the ROM itself is quite light, so all of it can be fit on to the NAND memory. It would help to create one because you may need it in the future, so I personally would if I were you. The way you described would work fine

[Q] Frustrated NOOB needs a little help installing rom

After several days struggle, I'm burned out. Some of the threads here have 100+ pages, and searches yield too much outdated, irrelevant info. So, I'm asking for some direction (as simple as possible, please).
I'm trying to set up my unlocked HD2 (originally T-Mo, but unlocked and using AT&T) for dual-boot, WM6.5 and Android. As you know, the choices for android rom are mind-boggling. I don't need anything fancy, just something up-to-date and stable. I would like, however, something LOUD.
Here's what I've tried so far:
Using despy1989's March 2010 guide (four years old already!), I have my HD2 booting up asking to choose Android or WM. If I choose Android, it does nothing, and defaults to WM.
I have SUNDAWG-CM7-NATIVESD rom loaded (or I think I do) in the android directory of the SD card. I'm not sure this one will meet my LOUD requirement, but since it won't load, I can't tell.
If I tap the new Android icon, it does nothing. If I tap the Android SoftReset icon, it resets but does not load Android, goes to WinMo.
If I go to File Explorer, and run haret, I get the message "failed to load file \storagecard\android\sdcard\nativesd\zimage"
What do I do next?
ANY help is much appreciated.

How did you installed Android as NativeSD? Did you made a partition on your SD in EXT4 which is needed for installing the Rom? Why you want keep WM 6.5 anyway?

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How did you installed Android as NativeSD? Did you made a partition on your SD in EXT4 which is needed for installing the Rom? Why you want keep WM 6.5 anyway?
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AFAIK, yes it is installed as NativeSD, Did not make a partition (there was conflicting advice as to whether it was necessary. I'm not ready to go "all in" and reformat my old SD card yet.)
Want to keep WM6.5 since it is the only one that works the way I need. I've been playing with a Sony X10a with Android 1.6 and am frustrated. I specifically need LOUDNESS and customizable ringtones and notifications, and relatively easy syncing with my PC.
Thanks for your reply and any further advice.

If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working. From WM6.5 can be run only SD Android version or there is another way, much longer but it's the way how it have to be.
Install MAGLRD and Recovery, probably this will wipe the phone, make the partition on SD to Install NativeSD, Install the Rom as Native SD. Then flash back the Stock WM6.5, this will wipe MAGLRD and Recovery. Now start again Android from the folder created from the installation. It should boot.

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If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working. From WM6.5 can be run only SD Android version or there is another way, much longer but it's the way how it have to be.
Install MAGLRD and Recovery, probably this will wipe the phone, make the partition on SD to Install NativeSD, Install the Rom as Native SD. Then flash back the Stock WM6.5, this will wipe MAGLRD and Recovery. Now start again Android from the folder created from the installation. It should boot.
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Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated. I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.

techcntr said:
Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated. I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
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I did this 100 times and HD2 is not that easy to brick, I never heard about bricked HD2 before. Then if you don't want to do it you will never have NativeSD on your phone because the NativeSD have to be installed on EXT4 partition, there is no other way. The only Android which you can use is from this section HERE. Put it on SD with other stuff and run with the application from WM6.5. First boot is very long.

eclyptos said:
If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working
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Sounds like "eating without plate"..
techcntr said:
Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated.
I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
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No, wipe (task29) won't even touch SPL parts.
So, unless you're super duper unlucky using wipe command, you won't bricking your device.
I don't know if you're already flash HSPL.
I suggest you to flash HSPL first, then the rest is up to you..

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Sounds like "eating without plate"..
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Shadow_Nexus said:
No, wipe (task29) won't even touch SPL parts.
So, unless you're super duper unlucky using wipe command, you won't bricking your device.
I don't know if you're already flash HSPL.
I suggest you to flash HSPL first, then the rest is up to you..
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Yeah, You are right too, I forgot to mention HSPL and Radio have to be installed before do anything. :good:
It's all easy like eat ice cream.
Some Tips How To Do It HERE

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eclyptos said:
Yeah, You are right too, I forgot to mention HSPL and Radio have to be installed before do anything. :good:
It's all easy like eat ice cream.
Some Tips How To Do It HERE
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Do you anyone who does this sort of thing for a reasonable fee? Preferably in the SW USA?

techcntr said:
Do you anyone who does this sort of thing for a reasonable fee? Preferably in the SW USA?
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If you really can't do this I can assist you via Team Viewer, I will tell you what to do and what to download. Before that I have to see your bootloader. Send me a PM to arrange an appointament. I don't know nobody in USA at the moment or I don't know they are.

techcntr said:
So, I'm asking for some direction (as simple as possible, please).
I'm trying to set up my unlocked HD2 (originally T-Mo, but unlocked and using AT&T) for dual-boot, WM6.5 and Android.
What do I do next?
ANY help is much appreciated.
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Read this thread in HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android SD Development > [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
Feel free to ask for help there.
Cheers
Tom
My Note 2 to you

broken links, etc.
Szczepanik said:
Read this thread in HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android SD Development > [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
Feel free to ask for help there.
Cheers
Tom
My Note 2 to you
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Been trying to follow your steps, but when I get to "Native SD Install Recovery", the links are broken. (this is the very kind of frustrations I'm having - there does not appear to be one single step-by-step guide without numerous links to invalid or outdated sites. I don't need advertising either.)
I can't find the 4EXT partition (in W8.1) in order to install anything.
So, now what?