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Root Done---Now what??

Well i have done the rooting and now i have more ques
1-best rom = i tried like 2/3 roms but they always get force close soo i need fast/stable/2.1based rom and yes dont eat much battery .....plz plz plz i m not gud at finding right rom.also what do the ppls think about CaNNon202 rom??is it stable?
2nd-do i always need to dangerSPL and Radio while installing any rom??
3-App2SD.. i idk how can i create ext2 in windows i use paragon partition manger process but when i put sd card in mobile it say i need to format it and after i just create complete 1 fat32 partition do i need to 1st create partition and then install the rom or what do i need to do to install apps on my sd card and also i need the files which i downloaded from marketplace into my card...
Thanks
Jamb

jamb said:
Well i have done the rooting and now i have more ques
1-best rom = i tried like 2/3 roms but they always get force close soo i need fast/stable/2.1based rom and yes dont eat much battery .....plz plz plz i m not gud at finding right rom.also what do the ppls think about CaNNon202 rom??is it stable?
2nd-do i always need to dangerSPL and Radio while installing any rom??
3-App2SD.. i idk how can i create ext2 in windows i use paragon partition manger process but when i put sd card in mobile it say i need to format it and after i just create complete 1 fat32 partition do i need to 1st create partition and then install the rom or what do i need to do to install apps on my sd card and also i need the files which i downloaded from marketplace into my card...
Thanks
Jamb
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1, no such thing IMHO, if you want stable, stick to stock ROM
2, no
3, there are tuts telling you how to get it done in console, and, I don't recommend app2sd, slow like hell

Jimmy_Z said:
3, there are tuts telling you how to get it done in console, and, I don't recommend app2sd, slow like hell
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Why wouldn't you run apps2sd? I've got the csdi roms with apps2sd and this thing is blazing fast. Besides, if you're going for apps with larger sizes, you're going to want apps2sd.
I find I'm OK with the 1.6 roms with Eclair bits. Don't need live wallpapers, and the Eclair bits have all the necessary things anyway. Personally I think the 1.6 roms are very stable at this point. Very few fcs and they're speedy.

fellows plz mention me the rom name ..i don't need live wallpapers coz it just slow the os and saying force close and what about 3d gallery coz i m not able to see the pics there..
@nmw407...mate plzz mention the rom name or i just need to unroot it and use 1.6
right?

i really recommend cyanogen. i stopped using it at 4.0.4. flashed every version he's ever made and i never really had good speed. this latest one is NICE, though, and i've hopped back on. for now. but i hear these CSDI ROMs are fast. just try any of them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=448
just look for CSDI in the post title.
as for partitioning, i use amon_ra's recovery.

I've tried cyanogen, superD, and now I'm currently on sciencetest. All these have been very stable. For those starting out, cyanogen has the best step-by-step guide, however, it does require additional steps because he went legal. Some of the other 1.6 roms out there are one step roms.
Use amon-ra's recovery, partitioning sd cards have never been simpler. Much better than partition manager. I used to get read/write errors all the time with partition manager. With the latest amon-ra's recovery, you can pretty much do everything on the phone.
Just remember to nandroid/bart backup, and completely wipe before flashing a rom (again... super easy with amon-ra recovery.) Having a backup will save your life or at least some hair.

Right now using CaNNon202....but as as always its slow

CSDI is really fast and really reliable for me (not using apps2sd). I've had like 1 or 2 app crashes total, and I've been running it for the past month or so, so it's been a lot more stable than any other rom I've flashed previously.
Plus, you get a lot of options like customizing the number of columns in app drawer and number of home screens.

Go Cyanogen. v5 is on the way, which wont be a generic half-assed 2.1 port with reduced functionality.

[Q] Is there a newbie's guide for this phone?

I understand there's a tips and tricks thread that explains things in more detail but how does somebody go from just getting the phone to installing, or even understanding, things like obsidian, onyx, morphing and learning what the basic functions of such programs are.
The question I currently have is concerning flashing custom roms. In the tips & tricks thread, it talks of froyo builds (ex: bionix & frankin-twiz). What is it exactly? From what I understand, it sounds like a mini os that you install onto your device which helps in applying different functions to it, which makes custom roms possible.
I'm currently trying to get http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530 to work on my vibrant. Can anybody help a newbie out?

VibrantUser1 said:
I understand there's a tips and tricks thread that explains things in more detail but how does somebody go from just getting the phone to installing, or even understanding, things like obsidian, onyx, morphing and learning what the basic functions of such programs are.
The question I currently have is concerning flashing custom roms. In the tips & tricks thread, it talks of froyo builds (ex: bionix & frankin-twiz). What is it exactly? From what I understand, it sounds like a mini os that you install onto your device which helps in applying different functions to it, which makes custom roms possible.
I'm currently trying to get http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530 to work on my vibrant. Can anybody help a newbie out?
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the link you posted is just to a theme.
to get the theme to work you'll need to be running obsidian first.
so lets see, the easiest way to explain the different versions 2.2, 2.1 1.6, 1.5 and so forth is this...
its pretty much like going from windows 95 to 98 to 2000 to xp to vista and so forth.
our vibrants come with android 2.1, 2.2 is the next version of the os to come out (basicaly like moving from vista to windows 7)
the different roms like obsidian and Macnut and such are just names that the developers gave their roms.
what happens is a developer starts out with a version of android (in the case of Macnut and Obsidian this is 2.2)
and then they add their own modified tweaks and such to it.
and so in the end they get Obsidian which is a modified 2.2
or Macnut which is also a modified 2.2
they differ a bit though as Obsidian is based almost totaly on a leaked version of 2.2 for the US vibrant, where Macnut is based alot on the 19000 version of 2.2 for the european phones.
so when choosing a rom just choose the base you want first: 2.1 or 2.2
then look through the tweaks on a few roms and read some of the thread for that rom untill you get a feel for what makes it unique
you can also just experiment by flashing a rom for a day or so and then switching to a new one untill you find one you like.
Morphing is a way to apply a theme to a rom, this does not generaly change functionality at all, it only changes apearance.
alot of themes are either morphs (you install them using metamorph, which is an app from the market)
or they also come in zip format (which are installed by flashing from recovery)
for the theme you posted you will need to flash obsidian, and then flash the zip for the theme afterwards.
have you rooted your device yet?
thats the place to start, if you need help just pm me or repost here and I'll do what I can.

also, there is a "newbie's guide":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458

nearblack said:
also, there is a "newbie's guide":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458
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lol true true

Before you even want to start with anything, you have to learn what 'rooting' your phone means.
Without root, you won't be able to do any of the above. You might be able to download the programs necessary, but you won't be able to use them.
For ex. Titanium Backup, ROM Manager, etc.
We use ROM Manager to install different ROMs on our phones.
Much to read, my young grasshopper.

OP, I made the Tips/Tricks sticky... would you PM be exactly what you think it lacks? I want to make sure it is applicable to everyone... I thought it was straight-forward, perhaps not.

my phone is rooted. So how do I go about flashing obsidian?
I thought roms were the same as themes? What's the difference?
And just to clarify I understand the tips and tricks thread is sort of the newbies guide but even then theres a lot of terminology that a new user wouldn't understand. I just wanted some basic information that would allow me to transition into the tips and tricks thread more easily.
I appreciate the responses so far

Have you download Rom Manager from the Market? If not, do so.
Then follow the instructions (in the sticky) to flash the recovery (it's the top of the list when you open Rom Manager).
Assuming you did that, you can reboot into recovery, make a backup of your system.. something you can always come back to (a timestamp of your system at that moment).
Download the ROM you want, put it on your internal memory (sdcard/....) NOT in a folder.
Go to Clockwork recovery, choose to insall a zip from sd card... select the name of the ROM and then click Yes to install it.
It will run it's course, then you can just reboot when done.
The first bootup will take a long time (10 minutes probably)... let it boot.... leave your phone alone for like 10 or so minutes after bootup (suggested by Team Whiskey, I never really do this).
It's that easy.
Think of a ROM as an OS... the developers take Froyo (2.2) or Eclair (2.1) and make a lot of tweaks, remove things, add things... basically anything to enhance the user experience.
THEMES are something you flash over a custom ROM... it can change the icons, graphics, notification bar, etc... they are cosmetic. You see in my signature I have Axura 2.0.3 (amazing rom and there is a newer version out) and then I have BlackFroyo (which is the theme) on top of the ROM to change the look of things. Axura has a steel looking notification bar, I much prefer black (hence the theme I chose).
The ONE thing that can be confusing... if you make a backup right now (you have stock eclair), if you flash a froyo rom... you would need to flash either the stock eclair kernel (the download link is also in the sticky) to restore your nandoid backup.... OR, you could just flash another ROM that has a kernel (most do) and you would be good to go too.

And addition to this is to make sure your phone is NOT hardware locked.
To test it:
1) Take out battery from the phone and put it back in again
2) The USB cable plugged into the computer (not in the phone yet)
3) Push and hold down both of the Volume buttons at the same time
4) Plug in USB cable and it should take you into the Download mode.
If it does you are good to go. Just read some about Odin and Stock Android
If it isn't you need to make sure to flash JI6 to your phone (also Stock) onto your phone using Stock Manager. That should fix your hardware locked. Go over the above steps to make sure that is the case.

At this point, I have rooted my device and downloaded rom manager.I believe I have backed up everything after following the directions and I do have the blackfroyo.zip on my sd card and for some reason it won't "go" (although I'm sure there's a step I am missing here, something with obsidian) so that wasn't much of a surprise.
Edit: I noticed I tried to use a theme on there and not the obsidian "OS" (idiot) when I tried the backup thing with rom manager. Where can I download the most recent version of obsidian and/or is axura an acceptable alternative?

VibrantUser1 said:
Edit: I noticed I tried to use a theme on there and not the obsidian "OS" (idiot) when I tried the backup thing with rom manager. Where can I download the most recent version of obsidian and/or is axura an acceptable alternative?
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Been working on updating the wiki. Please check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_SGH-T959#ROMs for the different ROMs currently available.

^^ both are solid. I prefer Auxura *no touchwiz*.... download it from the development section. Place in on the internal (sdcard/ ) and flash it, reboot... I would let the phone chill for awhile then reboot again.... THEN if you want, start messing with the theme. You can see from my signature you and I are similar.
to the OP, I started a noob friendly guide in the Q&A section. Please let me know exactly what you want in there.

Here is a video guide, its kinda old but the principles are the same.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/08/02/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-samsung-captivate-vibrant/

I have been browsing around and reading on XDA since I got my G1 on release day. I have since upgraded to the MYT3G and now to the Vibrant. I have always used XDA as a source of information for rooting, etc. I don't post very often, but, I would like to throw props out to all the individuals in the thread, this is one of the few threads I have read on XDA that no one got flamed for being a "noob" and asking basic info, the information given was clear, accurate and very helpful. No one pointed to using the search function, everyone just gave good answers. AWESOME
I hope to see more threads like this in the future. Bravo and well done to all.

So I tried installing obsidian 5 and this is what happened. I first put the zip file on my sd card, I did all the necessary prerequisites (I think) using rom manager, flash recovery > vibrant yada yada yada and then pressed install rom from sd card and chose the obsidian zip file. Then the phone starts backing itself up and it finally reaches a point where it says (E: Can't open/sdcard/sd/obsidian_v5_beta.zip (no such file or directory) Installation aborted.
I then try to navigate to the file from the menu but whenever I click the sd file, it just exits, I think it says that no zip file is found or something but when I boot it up normally afterwards, the file is still there.
But the file is within the sd file . . . what am I doing wrong? I tried to fix permissions thinking it was that but no luck.

You probably need to move to the rom to the internal sd card. I thought you're able to add it to the external with the recent update but perhaps not
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bellrb19 said:
You probably need to move to the rom to the internal sd card. I thought you're able to add it to the external with the recent update but perhaps not
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the rom IS on the sd card, unless you mean the memory on the actual phone itself

ROMs go on the root of the internal memory (no folder)... drop it in sdcard/
Also, this was mentioned in Post 8, and in team whiskeys install guide. Please pay attention to details.

oh okay, this whole time I've been thinkin the sd card folder was the root folder. Well I have finally put obsidian with success and now I'm having a difficult time implementing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530. I have downloaded the zip file but I don't understand what "flash it through clockwork recovery" means. It kinda sounds like I should use something in rom manager but I'm not sure, I have tried to reboot into recovery through rom manager with no luck.
I've also tried using metamorph but when i choose the blackfroyo.zip file, it says that the file is invalid and that the theme control file could be missing. Am I doing something wrong here as well?
Thanks for all your help so far, I really appreciate you taking time out of your busy life to help an individual with (what may be to you) simple problems

VibrantUser1 said:
oh okay, this whole time I've been thinkin the sd card folder was the root folder. Well I have finally put obsidian with success and now I'm having a difficult time implementing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530. I have downloaded the zip file but I don't understand what "flash it through clockwork recovery" means. It kinda sounds like I should use something in rom manager but I'm not sure, I have tried to reboot into recovery through rom manager with no luck.
I've also tried using metamorph but when i choose the blackfroyo.zip file, it says that the file is invalid and that the theme control file could be missing. Am I doing something wrong here as well?
Thanks for all your help so far, I really appreciate you taking time out of your busy life to help an individual with (what may be to you) simple problems
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From where you are now. Make sure the zip file is in the internal sd card, Open rom manager go to install rom from sd card then choose the that file then click ok and CW will do its thing. Also this is only for Obsidian v4.2 and Auxura 2.05. Good luck! Also you should make a nandroid back up first just in case.

Gen1, Gen2, TPT, Root, Recovery, Custom Rom, Cyanogen + Windows Flashing explanation.

Guide(/essay) removed as I don't have this phone anymore, so can't update or change the guide with accurate information, which I haven't tested on my own device first Thanks for all the help from others.

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Restoring tpt functionality
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These are good explanations, very thorough.
I've picked up on a few things that could be added/edited.
1.) Gen 2 is a newer version of the radio firmware, as well as the different memory map
2.) Add Amon Ra Recovery as an alternative to CWM, I know it's not very popular but I find it good for partitioning.
3.) Add link to Mr Pigfish, https://market.android.com/details?id=com.apedroid.pigfish&feature=search_result
4.) On the Flashing ROM's section, I'd also add 'Go into Mounts and Storage and Select Format System'. Not needed, but recommended for the cleanest installation and hopefully fewer problems down the line.
5.) There's the CM7 Converter thing for people to use CM7 on a Gen 1 phone. It can be flashed via recovery.
6.) Add TPT link for Ginger Stir Fry (Over on MoDaCo) since it's popular.
7.) Remove or clarify 'Gen does not matter' under the TPT section, a few may take this that Gen 1 ROM's can be flashed on a Gen 2 device :/
8.) Put warnings/important things in big scary red writing.
9.) Bold and underline the headings e.g. Gen 1/Gen 2, TPT, Root etc.
10.) Personally, I'd say that the Firmware is more similar to the BIOS than Recovery. Recovery is probably most similar to Windows Recovery Environment.
I'm glad you explained what recovery is since it's a bit annoying when people don't know and don't bother to Google it, hopefully they'll read this and understand. I hope you find my comments constructive.
Partitioning your SD Card.
Why?
To create an EXT Partition for A2SD (Not to be confused with the Froyo Apps2SD).
Why do I want this?
For more space on the phone's internal memory and to allow certain apps like widget's to reside on 'internal' memory which may not be available if they were on the FAT32 Partition used by the Froyo Apps2SD method.
How do I do this?
There are a few ways to do this, I found this method the best. I'd recommend doing this before flashing a ROM with a full wipe to avoid issues.
1.) Create a full Backup in Recovery in case something goes wrong
2.) Mount the SD Card on Windows/Linux/Mac
3.) Copy the contents of the SD card into a folder on Windows/Linux/Mac
4.) Download Amon Ra Recovery - Gen 1 Gen 2 Ensure you download and verify you download the correct version. Flashing the wrong version i.e. Gen 1 on a Gen 2 will cause a lot of problems.
5.) Flash it with your existing recovery e.g. Clockworkmod
6.) Go back to Advanced > Reboot Recovery
7.) Scroll down to Partition SD Card
8.) Select Partition SD
9.) Swap Size 0 MB EXT Partition Size 512 MB/1024 MB - depends on the size of your SD card and the number of apps you have.
10.) Press Home to Confirm. ALL Data on your SD will be erased.
11.) Press back and select EXT2 to EXT3 for the best compatibility with A2SD scripts.
12.) Select USB-MS toggle
13.) Drag and drop the ROM you want to flash on your SD
14.) Disable USB-MS toggle.
15.) Flash .zip from SD Card.
16.) If you intend to use CM7 download S2E from the Market to enable A2SD. Tick the first two boxes in the app. Alternatively, if you want to ensure you have enough space for when the Google Backup & Restore happens I've uploaded the APK of S2E to install BEFORE you flash Gapps.
Enjoy.
BTW are you going to post the guide that you wrote in the first post on MoDaCo? It'll get more views there and subsequently be of more use.
If you have any further questions you can find me on MoDaCo with the same username, I'll do my best to help. I'm not a developer either for that matter.

Hello, hedgepigdaniel from modaco here.
Nice guide, I have a couple of suggestions/comments
I don't know if you are aware, but Gen2 blades do have TPT, they just use a different file format (image.bin rather than the .img and .mbn files). There are not as many custom layourts and such around, but I have just put one up for the purposes of unbricking. For that reason, I don't think its a good idea to recommend flashing via windows as protection from a brick anymore (especially because windows flashing goes horribly wrong every so often).
In the rooting section, why don't you link to kalt kaffes modified z4root instead - since it can root Gen2 blades aswell. For Gen2 blades, ROM manager from market is the the easiest way to install recovery.
I've written an unbricking guide in the last few days (that's where the Gen2 TPT is). You are welcome to make use of that if you like.
Glad I finally got enough posts to post in the development section...

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TPT is not able to change the lowest level firmware file - partition.mbn. If you try to flash a TPT with a different partition.mbn then it just wont flash. You need windows to change the entire firmware. What wbaw has done (and I just repackaged his work as "custom") is create a mixture of files from Gen1 and Gen2, partition.mbn and the few files that have to match from Gen1, and the rest from Gen2. This makes it possible to TPT a Gen1 phone to a mixture that for all intents and purposes is Gen2. wbaw's TPTs can't be flashed to a real Gen2 phone because they have a Gen1 partition.mbn, but It would be equally possible for someone to make the opposite of what wbaw has made - a image.bin TPT with a Gen2 partition.mbn and co and Gen1 everything else (or just with a different partition layout), but no one has yet done so (and I haven't taken the time to work out how). So right now windows is the only way to go back to Gen1 from Gen2, but it doesn't have to be. More to the point, it isn't the only way to re-flash real Gen2 firmware, because I've now put a Gen2 image.bin in my unbricking guide. That's why I wouldn't recommend that people flash anything via windows with the aim of avoiding a brick.
You can use this tool by fonix232 to convert between multi-image TPTs and image.bin TPTs. If you start out with the multi image files from stock Gen2 firmware then you can create a image.bin that will flash on stock Gen2 phones as I have done.
EDIT: jsut to clarify, It's still fine to flash via windows as per my guide if you want to be able to flash all the TPTs that are out there on forums now, or to repartition or enable fastboot, its just not necessary as a safety measure.

Not sure if this is the best idea for 'n00bs' but there's an excellent partition tool for custom partitions.
http://android.modaco.com/topic/337...ol-windows-only/page__p__1672185#entry1672185
By Ricardopvz
It works with the Windows Flasher and the TPT's.
Instructions for use:
1.) Open the program
2.) Drag the sliders or enter values for the partition layout you want
3.) Press Create files
4.) Open the TPT .zip
5.) Navigate to the directory with "partition_zte.mbn" and "appsboot.mbn"
6.) Replace the existing "partition_zte.mbn" and "appsboot.mbn" with the new ones.
Done.
Also, add How to flash the Gapps package/Where's my Market gone and difference between Stable, Nightlies etc. under the CM section since some people can't be bothered to Google it.
1.) Place the gapps file that you downloaded on the root of your SD Card
2.) Reboot into recovery
3.) Select Flash .zip from SD Card
4.) Confirm
5.) Reboot
6.) Done
What's the difference between Stable, Nightlies, Experimental and Alpha?
Stable versions are those where all known issues have been addressed and resolved. This version is for everyday use.
Test / RC versions are similar to the experimental versions, but are in the final stages of testing before being "stable". There may be a few bugs left, but this version is usually stable enough for everyday use.
Experimental / Alpha versions are those where new features are being added, modified, and tweaked, and there are known bugs that are being worked on. This version is for beta / alpha testers.
Nightly builds are daily compiled builds from source. This version therefore has the latest bleeding edge features & tweaks, but it is also the mostly likely to have bugs and issues.
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CyanogenMod Tips/Solutions, some from the CyanogenMod Wiki here.
It's slow!
Remove stock launcher "ADW". It slows down the homescreen badly.
Recommended: "Launcher Pro" or "Gingerbread Launcher" from Market.
Omg I flashed CM7 and now I don't have Market!
You need to install the Gapps zip. Sign into your account on the First Time Setup screen and Market will activate
My Wi-Fi doesn't turn off/it's draining my battery!
The workaround for Wi-Fi sleep policy that doesn't seem work is download Green Power from the Market if you want your Wi-Fi off when your screen turns off.
Help, Nightly 1xx doesn't work properly/There's a bug!
They're nightlies, sometimes they don't work properly. Use the recommended Nightly from the Wiki Page or another ROM. Also, refer to the CM7 thread on MoDaCo linked below for possible fixes/workarounds.
I don't know what nightly to choose!
First check the CyanogenMod Wiki listed above the CM7 thread on MoDaCo here.
Read the last five pages on that thread for up to date info and feedback on the latest nightlies.
If you still don't know then post in the CM7 thread. Don't create an entire new thread to ask that question please.

Hi im trying to root my friend's blade. I cant find the file to root. Could you be kind to show the link please?
Guide to Rooting:
Enable USB Debugging:
Settings-->Applications-->Development-->USB Debugging (tick)
Install this Apk:
Install Astro File Browser from the market. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.metago.astro
Download the file on your computer, then copy it across to somewhere on your phone
Browse to that somewhere and click on the file. Open app manager and click install.
After installation, click open.
Tell it to do Permanent Root
Wait for it to reboot
Done.
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teddymild said:
Hi im trying to root my friend's blade. I cant find the file to root. Could you be kind to show the link please?
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I'd suggest you use the TPT method here since the process would be quicker than rooting it manually etc.: http://android.modaco.com/topic/337798-gen1-to-gen2-tpt-upgrade/
This will root the phone, install Clockworkmod recovery and put on a new 2.3 ROM as well. I'd suggest you use the Ginger Stir Fry one on that page.
I think z4root would work as well if you don't want to carry out the TPT method.

How's the guide going?

Thank you. I'll try it.
k0zmic said:
I'd suggest you use the TPT method here since the process would be quicker than rooting it manually etc.: http://android.modaco.com/topic/337798-gen1-to-gen2-tpt-upgrade/
This will root the phone, install Clockworkmod recovery and put on a new 2.3 ROM as well. I'd suggest you use the Ginger Stir Fry one on that page.
I think z4root would work as well if you don't want to carry out the TPT method.
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This thread dead?

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It would be nice to take this thread further.

Confusion with all those programs

Hi guys,
Id like to run Android on my HTC HD2, so I think Im in the righ forum.
There are however some confusing points. I get confused with all those different abbreviations and programs. Could someone please clarify, what kind of programs we use, what the difference is and so on... I know that there are two ways: by SD card and internal rom... Whats better/the difference?
What does HSPL, CLK, NAND, MAGLDR and CWM stand for, why do I need those programs?
Dont worry: I've used the search function and read some tutorials, but they are all just for one particular way, and not the other... Id just liek to get the basics, so that I can then decide...
Thanks!
the_at

Read this guide by mskip, it will help u: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948

the_at said:
Hi guys,
Id like to run Android on my HTC HD2, so I think Im in the righ forum.
There are however some confusing points. I get confused with all those different abbreviations and programs. Could someone please clarify, what kind of programs we use, what the difference is and so on... I know that there are two ways: by SD card and internal rom... Whats better/the difference?
What does HSPL, CLK, NAND, MAGLDR and CWM stand for, why do I need those programs?
Dont worry: I've used the search function and read some tutorials, but they are all just for one particular way, and not the other... Id just liek to get the basics, so that I can then decide...
Thanks!
the_at
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HSPL = When you bought your phone, it was showingspl. After you have unlocked you phone, it will show HSPL. This means that you can flash anything you want.. What hspl simply does is edit security_1 to security_0
CLK and MAGLDR - two different bootloaders. You need these to flash an android rom.
NAND - A "place" on your phone where android is saved.
CWM - Clockworkdmod, a "thing" that's needed to flash android (.zip's)
Tried to explain it in the easiest way, I hope it helped

Also try SD Android before playing with NAND version - you may just dislike it and you won't lose time spent on flash ;-)
SD Android is slower than nand version, but if you want android just for play angry birds etc. - would be enough. Great for beginners - you won't mess anything in device.

Hey guys,
thanks that helped a lot, esp. the answer of yz.hd!
Additional questions:
1. Whats the difference between the bootloaders CLK and MAGLDR? Is one better? Do they have different prerequisits/uses?
2. I dont need CWM for all android ROMs, right? Just for special ones? Is there a program for other ROMs? Does CMW have a special advantage?
Thanks so much!
the_at

the_at said:
Hey guys,
thanks that helped a lot, esp. the answer of yz.hd!
Additional questions:
1. Whats the difference between the bootloaders CLK and MAGLDR? Is one better? Do they have different prerequisits/uses?
2. I dont need CWM for all android ROMs, right? Just for special ones? Is there a program for other ROMs? Does CMW have a special advantage?
Thanks so much!
the_at
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1. MAGLDR allows you to have more control over how you boot your roms, it allowas you to run a Nand Android rom, or boot from sd, or boot a WP7 rom if you have it installed. It also allows you to boot to CWR (as well as play a kick ass game of tetris ).
CLK gives more of a "stock" android experience as your phone will not have to boot MAGLDR first, when you turn it on it boots strait to Android just like a native phone. You can also reboot right to CWR and you can charge the phone while off which is something MAGLDR currently lacks.
2. If you are going to go Nand and are using CLK or the CWR is a must as all Android Nand roms are flashed this way. It also allows you to backup and restore your rom before making changes so you can go back right where you were if you make a mistake.

Ok, thanks again.
I believe Id like to flash Android (Ice Cream sandwich) to NAND. Using CLK. Also install CWM and CWR, for this nice recovery feature.
Could you point me to the newest/best versions of those programs for a clean install?
- Android ROM, ICS, without any additions like filemanager etc. if possible
- CLK
- CWM and CWR
Great help here, guys!
Cheers, the_at
PS: Also, I read something about not having enough space on the phone for apps. As I usually install apps (in WM 6.5) to SD anyway, this is not an issue for me. However, do I need something special in Android to install to SD or can I easily choose as in WM 6.5?

[Q] Frustrated NOOB needs a little help installing rom

After several days struggle, I'm burned out. Some of the threads here have 100+ pages, and searches yield too much outdated, irrelevant info. So, I'm asking for some direction (as simple as possible, please).
I'm trying to set up my unlocked HD2 (originally T-Mo, but unlocked and using AT&T) for dual-boot, WM6.5 and Android. As you know, the choices for android rom are mind-boggling. I don't need anything fancy, just something up-to-date and stable. I would like, however, something LOUD.
Here's what I've tried so far:
Using despy1989's March 2010 guide (four years old already!), I have my HD2 booting up asking to choose Android or WM. If I choose Android, it does nothing, and defaults to WM.
I have SUNDAWG-CM7-NATIVESD rom loaded (or I think I do) in the android directory of the SD card. I'm not sure this one will meet my LOUD requirement, but since it won't load, I can't tell.
If I tap the new Android icon, it does nothing. If I tap the Android SoftReset icon, it resets but does not load Android, goes to WinMo.
If I go to File Explorer, and run haret, I get the message "failed to load file \storagecard\android\sdcard\nativesd\zimage"
What do I do next?
ANY help is much appreciated.

How did you installed Android as NativeSD? Did you made a partition on your SD in EXT4 which is needed for installing the Rom? Why you want keep WM 6.5 anyway?

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eclyptos said:
How did you installed Android as NativeSD? Did you made a partition on your SD in EXT4 which is needed for installing the Rom? Why you want keep WM 6.5 anyway?
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AFAIK, yes it is installed as NativeSD, Did not make a partition (there was conflicting advice as to whether it was necessary. I'm not ready to go "all in" and reformat my old SD card yet.)
Want to keep WM6.5 since it is the only one that works the way I need. I've been playing with a Sony X10a with Android 1.6 and am frustrated. I specifically need LOUDNESS and customizable ringtones and notifications, and relatively easy syncing with my PC.
Thanks for your reply and any further advice.

If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working. From WM6.5 can be run only SD Android version or there is another way, much longer but it's the way how it have to be.
Install MAGLRD and Recovery, probably this will wipe the phone, make the partition on SD to Install NativeSD, Install the Rom as Native SD. Then flash back the Stock WM6.5, this will wipe MAGLRD and Recovery. Now start again Android from the folder created from the installation. It should boot.

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eclyptos said:
If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working. From WM6.5 can be run only SD Android version or there is another way, much longer but it's the way how it have to be.
Install MAGLRD and Recovery, probably this will wipe the phone, make the partition on SD to Install NativeSD, Install the Rom as Native SD. Then flash back the Stock WM6.5, this will wipe MAGLRD and Recovery. Now start again Android from the folder created from the installation. It should boot.
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Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated. I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.

techcntr said:
Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated. I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
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I did this 100 times and HD2 is not that easy to brick, I never heard about bricked HD2 before. Then if you don't want to do it you will never have NativeSD on your phone because the NativeSD have to be installed on EXT4 partition, there is no other way. The only Android which you can use is from this section HERE. Put it on SD with other stuff and run with the application from WM6.5. First boot is very long.

eclyptos said:
If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working
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Sounds like "eating without plate"..
techcntr said:
Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated.
I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
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No, wipe (task29) won't even touch SPL parts.
So, unless you're super duper unlucky using wipe command, you won't bricking your device.
I don't know if you're already flash HSPL.
I suggest you to flash HSPL first, then the rest is up to you..

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Sounds like "eating without plate"..
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Shadow_Nexus said:
No, wipe (task29) won't even touch SPL parts.
So, unless you're super duper unlucky using wipe command, you won't bricking your device.
I don't know if you're already flash HSPL.
I suggest you to flash HSPL first, then the rest is up to you..
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Yeah, You are right too, I forgot to mention HSPL and Radio have to be installed before do anything. :good:
It's all easy like eat ice cream.
Some Tips How To Do It HERE

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eclyptos said:
Yeah, You are right too, I forgot to mention HSPL and Radio have to be installed before do anything. :good:
It's all easy like eat ice cream.
Some Tips How To Do It HERE
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Do you anyone who does this sort of thing for a reasonable fee? Preferably in the SW USA?

techcntr said:
Do you anyone who does this sort of thing for a reasonable fee? Preferably in the SW USA?
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If you really can't do this I can assist you via Team Viewer, I will tell you what to do and what to download. Before that I have to see your bootloader. Send me a PM to arrange an appointament. I don't know nobody in USA at the moment or I don't know they are.

techcntr said:
So, I'm asking for some direction (as simple as possible, please).
I'm trying to set up my unlocked HD2 (originally T-Mo, but unlocked and using AT&T) for dual-boot, WM6.5 and Android.
What do I do next?
ANY help is much appreciated.
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Read this thread in HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android SD Development > [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
Feel free to ask for help there.
Cheers
Tom
My Note 2 to you

broken links, etc.
Szczepanik said:
Read this thread in HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android SD Development > [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
Feel free to ask for help there.
Cheers
Tom
My Note 2 to you
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Been trying to follow your steps, but when I get to "Native SD Install Recovery", the links are broken. (this is the very kind of frustrations I'm having - there does not appear to be one single step-by-step guide without numerous links to invalid or outdated sites. I don't need advertising either.)
I can't find the 4EXT partition (in W8.1) in order to install anything.
So, now what?