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[Q] Is there a newbie's guide for this phone?

I understand there's a tips and tricks thread that explains things in more detail but how does somebody go from just getting the phone to installing, or even understanding, things like obsidian, onyx, morphing and learning what the basic functions of such programs are.
The question I currently have is concerning flashing custom roms. In the tips & tricks thread, it talks of froyo builds (ex: bionix & frankin-twiz). What is it exactly? From what I understand, it sounds like a mini os that you install onto your device which helps in applying different functions to it, which makes custom roms possible.
I'm currently trying to get http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530 to work on my vibrant. Can anybody help a newbie out?

VibrantUser1 said:
I understand there's a tips and tricks thread that explains things in more detail but how does somebody go from just getting the phone to installing, or even understanding, things like obsidian, onyx, morphing and learning what the basic functions of such programs are.
The question I currently have is concerning flashing custom roms. In the tips & tricks thread, it talks of froyo builds (ex: bionix & frankin-twiz). What is it exactly? From what I understand, it sounds like a mini os that you install onto your device which helps in applying different functions to it, which makes custom roms possible.
I'm currently trying to get http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530 to work on my vibrant. Can anybody help a newbie out?
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the link you posted is just to a theme.
to get the theme to work you'll need to be running obsidian first.
so lets see, the easiest way to explain the different versions 2.2, 2.1 1.6, 1.5 and so forth is this...
its pretty much like going from windows 95 to 98 to 2000 to xp to vista and so forth.
our vibrants come with android 2.1, 2.2 is the next version of the os to come out (basicaly like moving from vista to windows 7)
the different roms like obsidian and Macnut and such are just names that the developers gave their roms.
what happens is a developer starts out with a version of android (in the case of Macnut and Obsidian this is 2.2)
and then they add their own modified tweaks and such to it.
and so in the end they get Obsidian which is a modified 2.2
or Macnut which is also a modified 2.2
they differ a bit though as Obsidian is based almost totaly on a leaked version of 2.2 for the US vibrant, where Macnut is based alot on the 19000 version of 2.2 for the european phones.
so when choosing a rom just choose the base you want first: 2.1 or 2.2
then look through the tweaks on a few roms and read some of the thread for that rom untill you get a feel for what makes it unique
you can also just experiment by flashing a rom for a day or so and then switching to a new one untill you find one you like.
Morphing is a way to apply a theme to a rom, this does not generaly change functionality at all, it only changes apearance.
alot of themes are either morphs (you install them using metamorph, which is an app from the market)
or they also come in zip format (which are installed by flashing from recovery)
for the theme you posted you will need to flash obsidian, and then flash the zip for the theme afterwards.
have you rooted your device yet?
thats the place to start, if you need help just pm me or repost here and I'll do what I can.

also, there is a "newbie's guide":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458

nearblack said:
also, there is a "newbie's guide":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458
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lol true true

Before you even want to start with anything, you have to learn what 'rooting' your phone means.
Without root, you won't be able to do any of the above. You might be able to download the programs necessary, but you won't be able to use them.
For ex. Titanium Backup, ROM Manager, etc.
We use ROM Manager to install different ROMs on our phones.
Much to read, my young grasshopper.

OP, I made the Tips/Tricks sticky... would you PM be exactly what you think it lacks? I want to make sure it is applicable to everyone... I thought it was straight-forward, perhaps not.

my phone is rooted. So how do I go about flashing obsidian?
I thought roms were the same as themes? What's the difference?
And just to clarify I understand the tips and tricks thread is sort of the newbies guide but even then theres a lot of terminology that a new user wouldn't understand. I just wanted some basic information that would allow me to transition into the tips and tricks thread more easily.
I appreciate the responses so far

Have you download Rom Manager from the Market? If not, do so.
Then follow the instructions (in the sticky) to flash the recovery (it's the top of the list when you open Rom Manager).
Assuming you did that, you can reboot into recovery, make a backup of your system.. something you can always come back to (a timestamp of your system at that moment).
Download the ROM you want, put it on your internal memory (sdcard/....) NOT in a folder.
Go to Clockwork recovery, choose to insall a zip from sd card... select the name of the ROM and then click Yes to install it.
It will run it's course, then you can just reboot when done.
The first bootup will take a long time (10 minutes probably)... let it boot.... leave your phone alone for like 10 or so minutes after bootup (suggested by Team Whiskey, I never really do this).
It's that easy.
Think of a ROM as an OS... the developers take Froyo (2.2) or Eclair (2.1) and make a lot of tweaks, remove things, add things... basically anything to enhance the user experience.
THEMES are something you flash over a custom ROM... it can change the icons, graphics, notification bar, etc... they are cosmetic. You see in my signature I have Axura 2.0.3 (amazing rom and there is a newer version out) and then I have BlackFroyo (which is the theme) on top of the ROM to change the look of things. Axura has a steel looking notification bar, I much prefer black (hence the theme I chose).
The ONE thing that can be confusing... if you make a backup right now (you have stock eclair), if you flash a froyo rom... you would need to flash either the stock eclair kernel (the download link is also in the sticky) to restore your nandoid backup.... OR, you could just flash another ROM that has a kernel (most do) and you would be good to go too.

And addition to this is to make sure your phone is NOT hardware locked.
To test it:
1) Take out battery from the phone and put it back in again
2) The USB cable plugged into the computer (not in the phone yet)
3) Push and hold down both of the Volume buttons at the same time
4) Plug in USB cable and it should take you into the Download mode.
If it does you are good to go. Just read some about Odin and Stock Android
If it isn't you need to make sure to flash JI6 to your phone (also Stock) onto your phone using Stock Manager. That should fix your hardware locked. Go over the above steps to make sure that is the case.

At this point, I have rooted my device and downloaded rom manager.I believe I have backed up everything after following the directions and I do have the blackfroyo.zip on my sd card and for some reason it won't "go" (although I'm sure there's a step I am missing here, something with obsidian) so that wasn't much of a surprise.
Edit: I noticed I tried to use a theme on there and not the obsidian "OS" (idiot) when I tried the backup thing with rom manager. Where can I download the most recent version of obsidian and/or is axura an acceptable alternative?

VibrantUser1 said:
Edit: I noticed I tried to use a theme on there and not the obsidian "OS" (idiot) when I tried the backup thing with rom manager. Where can I download the most recent version of obsidian and/or is axura an acceptable alternative?
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Been working on updating the wiki. Please check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_SGH-T959#ROMs for the different ROMs currently available.

^^ both are solid. I prefer Auxura *no touchwiz*.... download it from the development section. Place in on the internal (sdcard/ ) and flash it, reboot... I would let the phone chill for awhile then reboot again.... THEN if you want, start messing with the theme. You can see from my signature you and I are similar.
to the OP, I started a noob friendly guide in the Q&A section. Please let me know exactly what you want in there.

Here is a video guide, its kinda old but the principles are the same.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/08/02/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-samsung-captivate-vibrant/

I have been browsing around and reading on XDA since I got my G1 on release day. I have since upgraded to the MYT3G and now to the Vibrant. I have always used XDA as a source of information for rooting, etc. I don't post very often, but, I would like to throw props out to all the individuals in the thread, this is one of the few threads I have read on XDA that no one got flamed for being a "noob" and asking basic info, the information given was clear, accurate and very helpful. No one pointed to using the search function, everyone just gave good answers. AWESOME
I hope to see more threads like this in the future. Bravo and well done to all.

So I tried installing obsidian 5 and this is what happened. I first put the zip file on my sd card, I did all the necessary prerequisites (I think) using rom manager, flash recovery > vibrant yada yada yada and then pressed install rom from sd card and chose the obsidian zip file. Then the phone starts backing itself up and it finally reaches a point where it says (E: Can't open/sdcard/sd/obsidian_v5_beta.zip (no such file or directory) Installation aborted.
I then try to navigate to the file from the menu but whenever I click the sd file, it just exits, I think it says that no zip file is found or something but when I boot it up normally afterwards, the file is still there.
But the file is within the sd file . . . what am I doing wrong? I tried to fix permissions thinking it was that but no luck.

You probably need to move to the rom to the internal sd card. I thought you're able to add it to the external with the recent update but perhaps not
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bellrb19 said:
You probably need to move to the rom to the internal sd card. I thought you're able to add it to the external with the recent update but perhaps not
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the rom IS on the sd card, unless you mean the memory on the actual phone itself

ROMs go on the root of the internal memory (no folder)... drop it in sdcard/
Also, this was mentioned in Post 8, and in team whiskeys install guide. Please pay attention to details.

oh okay, this whole time I've been thinkin the sd card folder was the root folder. Well I have finally put obsidian with success and now I'm having a difficult time implementing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530. I have downloaded the zip file but I don't understand what "flash it through clockwork recovery" means. It kinda sounds like I should use something in rom manager but I'm not sure, I have tried to reboot into recovery through rom manager with no luck.
I've also tried using metamorph but when i choose the blackfroyo.zip file, it says that the file is invalid and that the theme control file could be missing. Am I doing something wrong here as well?
Thanks for all your help so far, I really appreciate you taking time out of your busy life to help an individual with (what may be to you) simple problems

VibrantUser1 said:
oh okay, this whole time I've been thinkin the sd card folder was the root folder. Well I have finally put obsidian with success and now I'm having a difficult time implementing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530. I have downloaded the zip file but I don't understand what "flash it through clockwork recovery" means. It kinda sounds like I should use something in rom manager but I'm not sure, I have tried to reboot into recovery through rom manager with no luck.
I've also tried using metamorph but when i choose the blackfroyo.zip file, it says that the file is invalid and that the theme control file could be missing. Am I doing something wrong here as well?
Thanks for all your help so far, I really appreciate you taking time out of your busy life to help an individual with (what may be to you) simple problems
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From where you are now. Make sure the zip file is in the internal sd card, Open rom manager go to install rom from sd card then choose the that file then click ok and CW will do its thing. Also this is only for Obsidian v4.2 and Auxura 2.05. Good luck! Also you should make a nandroid back up first just in case.

[Q] Why so much CW hate ?

Starting this thread again as my previous one was deleted during the board's transformation yesterday...but I think it's important to bring up the subject.
Coming from an older Android terminal (Htc Magic), I still don't understand how so few dev's out there are actually using ClockworkMod Recovery for their ROM. I know, a lot of you come from WM 6.5, where USB-Flash was the only way to go but now things have changed ! If you are fan enough of Android to be willing to flash it completely to the Nand, wiping WinMo6.5, then go with it and start flashing your ROMS the Android way. The CW way !
As a reminder, CW allows to :
- Flash your ROMS from the SD card. Imagine you want to flash a new ROM but have to leave for 2 days without a computer; it's not a problem ! Put it on the SD card and flash it later !
- Easily implement new kernels or updates. Doing so, dev's can propose completely clean build with the option to flash as many add-on's, updates, kernels or fixes you want. Look here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=810471. You can't make it easier.
- Partition your SD card with an ext partition the size you want without the need of a software or a linux-based iso. If you are a Windows user, that's a huge time saver !
- Back-up ans restore. That's a HUGE bonus. Want to flash a new ROM ? Back-up all your current ROM (5 minutes), then flash the new one. Don't like after all ? Restore your backup in 5 minutes...
- For me (and here, I'm not my saying it's always the case, just FOR ME), sd data transfer through CW is two times faster than through MAGLDR.
- Many more...
The same goes for EXT. Using data.img is outdated, it's another WinMo days leftover. Ext is actually mounted as an internal memory, allowing Sense Roms. And the apps installed there won't need to be reinstalled every updates...
It's tough for a Android user like myself to find a proper ROM/Zip with data2ext support these days. Pretty much MDJ, thank God for him. It seems that there a lot of ROMS to choose from but actually there isn't. Especially when the DAF to ZIP tool from the board doesn't work with all the DAF's releases (most of the time it's actually the releases that are not made right).
So please, be an Android user and make the step. It's like you found the door but are afraid to come in...
Just go and read the CW tutorial thread if you are unsure. I'll be willing to help also...

How to back up and change roms without screwing up?

Hi i just rooted my legend... was a hell of a ride because i encountered a lot of problems which most of noobs like me have encountered it while experimenting with the rooting process...
i was already stock OTA 2.2 with HBOOT 1.01...
Read several guides to get comfortable and prepared for the journey... in the end , i spent over 6 hrs to get it done... All the problems that ppl have been having boils down to the goldcard... i knew about it but never knew what to expect because in the downgrading step the gold card was not an issue and in the rooting process, it was!
im glad this part is over... i was able to flash the blayo's rom .
Now i feel like trying out new roms, so here's the questions:
1. I have TiBackUp PRO and the Free ROM Manager. Already backed up the Blayo's ROM
2. If i want to try the CM as so many others are doing to try Gingerbread... Is it a matter of going into ROM Manager and choose the CM versions?
3. How do i reload all my apps and settings without redoing everything manually?
4. If the CM is screwed up and doesnt boot, can i just go to recovery and flash a back up?
I just want to make sure i can try new roms without having to reset up all apps like wifi, gmail account...etc
Also, if the CM are buggy and doesnt allow my phone to booot if there is a way to reload my stable blayo rom?
Thanks

sorry i got no answer for you ... but the same think i want to try and i would like to know if and how is that possible ... to return on old rom with all app what we add Manuel . before we try new rom and did not like it..

h-e-a-v-e-n: Why did you even bother writing that?
QkSi1ver: nandroid is a part of your solution for you! That can backup and restore any ROM as a whole thing. Or you can restore only part (/system for instance...)
The other problem might not be solvable, as you will be going from one ROM to a whole differrent one...B08.4 and CM7 are completely different and I dare say no backup program will backup all apps and their data so it would work with such transition (tried Titanium, MyBackup and some other apps...) You can port contacts, messages, calendar evens, but you'd have to set up all you need.
Also there are programs that can batch-install your favorite apps, but you'd still have to set those up
Good luck with messing with it

Dr.Romca said:
h-e-a-v-e-n: Why did you even bother writing that?
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Just counting posts
For QkSi1ver : I use "Tit..Backup and root " and I'm pleased with it
It can backup and restore " ... Whole app + data ..."
However u have to setup something like Google account and other manually ant to install TitBackup manually as well . Be sure whenever backup or restore to check " App+Data "
Finally the most important ( for me at least ) - the phonebook : I allways store it in my G--account . Good luck .
P.S. : At least u have a sheet of paper and a pencil for the phonenumbers an free time for setting up your phone again
It was a joke
P.S.2 : Be aware that some apps , backed up from one ROM may not work ( or even install ) properly to another , don't know why - should ask someone smarter

Thanks for all your response...
im just getting used to the ROm Manager and the CWM recovery that was installed through ROM Manager...
Correct me if i'm wrong.. if i happen to install onf oe the CM Nightlies and it doesnt boot into the OS, i would still be able to access the bootloader , into the CWM recovery which was intalled with ROM Manager and then load up my back up ROM from blayo right?

Right
Until you update to an uprooted ROM you should be able to access CWM recovery
An advice : use BlaY0's fake flash if you are S-on . It is smoother and easy to use
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pappilion said:
Right
Until you update to an uprooted ROM you should be able to access CWM recovery
An advice : use BlaY0's fake flash if you are S-on . It is smoother and easy to use
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA Premium App
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I thought FakeFlash has been renamed to ROM Manager and was one and the same (since both were written by the same dev right?)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698404
If they are different, what does FakeFlash do that the ROM Manager CWM Recovery doesnt do? Can you point me to the appropriate thread?
Thanks
ps: Damn I'm running out of space... any advice regarding the ext partitionon sd... does it work like it make the OS believe i have more space?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=535315&d=1299449412
Download this file , place it on the root of your SDcard and rename it to " update.zip " . Replace the existing one (if there is) .
About partitioning read this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907436
but I never had this problem so never needed to do this .
All I do is move personal ( downloaded ) apps to SDcard And I worry no more for the free space . At least I don't see why some buddys need so much free space .
I'm using BlaY0's B 0.8 and it is cofigured good enough to leave me a space on the machine .

pappilion said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=535315&d=1299449412
Download this file , place it on the root of your SDcard and rename it to " update.zip " . Replace the existing one (if there is) .
About partitioning read this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907436
but I never had this problem so never needed to do this .
All I do is move personal ( downloaded ) apps to SDcard And I worry no more for the free space . At least I don't see why some buddys need so much free space .
I'm using BlaY0's B 0.8 and it is cofigured good enough to leave me a space on the machine .
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I thought i had enough space too... until i started finding new tools available to root users...on top of my usual cant-live-wo
igo (30MB), camera 360 (6mb), swype (5mb) ..etc it runs out pretty quick

QkSi1ver said:
I thought i had enough space too... until i started finding new tools available to root users...on top of my usual cant-live-wo
igo (30MB), camera 360 (6mb), swype (5mb) ..etc it runs out pretty quick
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" Titanium Backup and Root " has a batch that moves any app that you install ( beside the system ones ) onto SD card .

[Q] MIUI 1.8.5 vs 1.9.2

I'm currently running MIUI 1.8.5 installed on the Nook itself. It runs so well that I'm hesitant to try 1.9.2 because I've uninstalled and reinstalled ROMs before and had them act completely different. The only issue I have right now is with playing videos so I'm very happy with what I have. But does anyone know what changes were made in the new version that might make it worth trying?

The only difference that I saw was that the update seemed to run a lot 'snappier' for me. But after a couple of days use with 1.9.2, it started freezing up on me. Over and over and over. I tried re-installing it a couple of times, but in the end finally gave up. Back to 1.8.5 which still freezes on me occasionally.
I know people have varied results with each rom. If it hadn't done the freezing thing, I would have loved the update and stuck with it.

1.9.2 is running great for me o emmc but if ur running on sd card i think a bunch of ppl are having problems with any miui on the sd card

Thanks guys!

moz90 said:
1.9.2 is running great for me o emmc but if ur running on sd card i think a bunch of ppl are having problems with any miui on the sd card
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I was running this on emmc.

I'm not too worried about it if there aren't any significant changes. I have 1.8.5 running on emmc, and it's running so well that I probably won't mess with it unless at some point there is a fix to improve the video playback.

Hi,
I am running a somewhat older version of MIUI on my NC. I run it off the emmc and it seems to work quite well. I got a friend at work interested, and he installed a newer version of MIUI, probably 1.916 or something like that (its the current release this week.) I also bought a nook color to haque for my mother to use.
Here is my question: I would like for both of mine to use the same ROM, but I have already laoded a bunch of games and other apps on mine. If I re-flash the ROM with the newer MIUI, I imagine that it wipes out everything. So...., is there a way to update the ROM and keep the programs and settings for wifi and the like ? I bet it requires renaming the file somehow, but I do not find any specific instructions for the MIUI roms.

Yea just minimally wipe your cache not factory reset then flash the ROM all your apps setting ect. Will be there
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merkurmaniac said:
Hi,
I am running a somewhat older version of MIUI on my NC. I run it off the emmc and it seems to work quite well. I got a friend at work interested, and he installed a newer version of MIUI, probably 1.916 or something like that (its the current release this week.) I also bought a nook color to haque for my mother to use.
Here is my question: I would like for both of mine to use the same ROM, but I have already laoded a bunch of games and other apps on mine. If I re-flash the ROM with the newer MIUI, I imagine that it wipes out everything. So...., is there a way to update the ROM and keep the programs and settings for wifi and the like ? I bet it requires renaming the file somehow, but I do not find any specific instructions for the MIUI roms.
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It is also a good idea to use the MIUI built-in Backup app to save all your settings and apps (just don't include contacts in the settings section as it seems to duplicate all of your contacts). This way, if you need to do a clean install, you can easily restore all of your stuff.

O.K., I took another microsd card and backed it up using the backup portion of CWM. No I am ready to install the newer miui. Question is...
I am sitting at the CWM prompt and I am thinking that I should somehow rename the MIUI.us-encore_1.9.16_eng_Deo_zipA_Signed_andmer.zip file into something like update.zip ??? Or, do I more siply pick that file name from the SD card and apply it as a zip ? on top of the MIUI 8.05 or whatever it was I already have ?

merkurmaniac said:
O.K., I took another microsd card and backed it up using the backup portion of CWM. No I am ready to install the newer miui. Question is...
I am sitting at the CWM prompt and I am thinking that I should somehow rename the MIUI.us-encore_1.9.16_eng_Deo_zipA_Signed_andmer.zip file into something like update.zip ??? Or, do I more siply pick that file name from the SD card and apply it as a zip ? on top of the MIUI 8.05 or whatever it was I already have ?
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You can simply pick the filename from the SD card, no need to rename the file. Have you followed the directions for formatting, etc as well? What is on your Nook now?

Just got a new HD2. Recovery / root head start.

Hi guys.
Yesterday I got a used HTC HD2. It is installed with android nand and the DFT (Dark Forces Team) rom, I think taken from the DESIRE (according to the information on the 'About').
The main problem in the device is that it has really bit memory! After installing few apps, I cant download a thing :/
So I searched for the problem and I've realized that I need to make a partition on the SD-CARD. However I saw that in the market there are apps that allow moving the application that can only sit in the internal memory to the external memory.
I then found out that the phone doesn't have root access too. (Although it came with SUPERUSER app as default).
I can't find the main thread of the rom in order to ask there how to root the device.
Which software / app, will I need recovery installed (althogh I don't think it requires) and ETC.
Please can someone direct me or just give me names of apps/softwares/guides/anything :crying:
I guess GOOGLE could be my assitstant from there.
I'm afraid to follow guides that I don't sure will work properly with my phone's software.
Thank you.

pelegm28 said:
Hi guys.
Yesterday I got a used HTC HD2. It is installed with android nand and the DFT (Dark Forces Team) rom, I think taken from the DESIRE (according to the information on the 'About').
The main problem in the device is that it has really bit memory! After installing few apps, I cant download a thing :/
So I searched for the problem and I've realized that I need to make a partition on the SD-CARD. However I saw that in the market there are apps that allow moving the application that can only sit in the internal memory to the external memory.
I then found out that the phone doesn't have root access too. (Although it came with SUPERUSER app as default).
I can't find the main thread of the rom in order to ask there how to root the device.
Which software / app, will I need recovery installed (althogh I don't think it requires) and ETC.
Please can someone direct me or just give me names of apps/softwares/guides/anything :crying:
I guess GOOGLE could be my assitstant from there.
I'm afraid to follow guides that I don't sure will work properly with my phone's software.
Thank you.
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look for guides in this forum...about nativSD and dataonEXT...very helpful (that's how i learned what i need to know about the device)...also i recommend to change the rom to a better or newer version of android...you will also find guides about changing the rom...

eliaskammas said:
look for guides in this forum...about nativSD and dataonEXT...very helpful (that's how i learned what i need to know about the device)...also i recommend to change the rom to a better or newer version of android...you will also find guides about changing the rom...
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Hi,
Thank you for your kindly help.
Which Android version do you suggest to change to ?
ICS ? Or maybe GingerBread ?
And BTW I entered before to the MAGDLR menu, chosed the " AD Recovery " option and it said something like " no boot source ".
Does that mean that I don't have a recovery installed ?
And if so, will I need to install it first and then change the rom ?
Again, Thank you for your help.
Peleg.

yes you will need recovery...fast roms are mostly GB but ICS are as good as well...GB need less space on rom memory so if you don't install alot of craps as most of us do the remaining space will be fine for your data...ICS have hwa, apps work faster and games play better..I recommend ICS by tytung to be honest(very fast and stable)...when you download the recovery you will see a "flash.cfg" file...on the rom thread the developer will state the partitions needed for his rom and so you change the numbers on that file accordingly before flashing the recovery...but always make system space little bigger than needed just in case(and to avoid other problems that i will have a finger cramp if i write them down.! )

eliaskammas said:
yes you will need recovery...fast roms are mostly GB but ICS are as good as well...GB need less space on rom memory so if you don't install alot of craps as most of us do the remaining space will be fine for your data...ICS have hwa, apps work faster and games play better..I recommend ICS by tytung to be honest(very fast and stable)...when you download the recovery you will see a "flash.cfg" file...on the rom thread the developer will state the partitions needed for his rom and so you change the numbers on that file accordingly before flashing the recovery...but always make system space little bigger than needed just in case(and to avoid other problems that i will have a finger cramp if i write them down.! )
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Thank you.
I will first install the recovery, but I guess I'll have to read a lot before:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837
Then I will search for a guide for installing recovery-
CWM will be great right ?
Thank you very much !!! :laugh:

The guide you linked is very useful and makes everything clear. I strongly recommend reading it thoroughly before doing anything. Once you're slightly more comfortable with the terms, you can follow the guide in my sig to flash CWM and a ROM. You already have HSPL, a compatible Radio version and MAGLDR installed so don't worry about any of those. If you happen to come across guides which say 'task29' just ignore that step, Task29ing is completely useless.
As for recommending a ROM, it depends on your usage. Eliaskammas' post sums it up nicely, but you should note that (IMO) ICS and JB will give you worse day to day performance and stability than GB but will be better for intensive activities e.g. gaming, web browsing, using content-heavy apps etc. I've also found battery drain to be marginally more on ICS and JB ROMs.

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The guide you linked is very useful and makes everything clear. I strongly recommend reading it thoroughly before doing anything. Once you're slightly more comfortable with the terms, you can follow the guide in my sig to flash CWM and a ROM. You already have HSPL, a compatible Radio version and MAGLDR installed so don't worry about any of those. If you happen to come across guides which say 'task29' just ignore that step, Task29ing is completely useless.
As for recommending a ROM, it depends on your usage. Eliaskammas' post sums it up nicely, but you should note that (IMO) ICS and JB will give you worse day to day performance and stability than GB but will be better for intensive activities e.g. gaming, web browsing, using content-heavy apps etc. I've also found battery drain to be marginally more on ICS and JB ROMs.
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Hi.
Thank you for your advices and technical help.
I will read it as soon as possible and then try to install the CWM Recovery and a better Rom.
According to what I saw, I think I will go on the "Energy rom" (Sense 3.5).
I will probably update my progresses here.
Thank you a lot.
BTW, a deodexed rom is needed for languages that are written from right to left ?
Or that I have to find a rom supports RTL ?
Beacuse for example, I've searched the thread of the Energy rom for "Hebrew" and found out that it doesn't supports RTL :/
Thank you.

I don't want to confuse you but I personally have always found Sense based ROMs to be slow and I think you should really stick to CM or MIUI. Anyway, that's really just my opinion.
Unfortunately, I think that you may have to find a ROM which supports RTL. I haven't looked into it but there may well be an app which somehow makes it work. If you're desperate for Android with Sense and RTL support then you could consider some of the SD ROMs from boxmax, he made good SD ROMs (at least when I used it), but I don't know which NAND ROMs will work for you.

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I don't want to confuse you but I personally have always found Sense based ROMs to be slow and I think you should really stick to CM or MIUI. Anyway, that's really just my opinion.
Unfortunately, I think that you may have to find a ROM which supports RTL. I haven't looked into it but there may well be an app which somehow makes it work. If you're desperate for Android with Sense and RTL support then you could consider some of the SD ROMs from boxmax, he made good SD ROMs (at least when I used it), but I don't know which NAND ROMs will work for you.
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Hi Nigeldg.
I took your advice and I think I will go on this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1639932
It supports rtl and data2ext.
But do I need to change my HD2's kernel ? To Dorimanx 's kernel ?
And from the guide that you've recommended on before, do I need to start from this part:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12656427&postcount=3
And to skip the other parts ?
I've read the hole guide and it is very helpful.
Everything is really clearer.

There's no need to change the kernel after flashing, but you can if you want to. I think the dorimanx krrnel is included in that rom anyway so i don't see why you'd want to flash it again. Follow the new way method and everything should be fine. You can use the NAND toolkit to select the appropriate partition size.

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There's no need to change the kernel after flashing, but you can if you want to. I think the dorimanx krrnel is included in that rom anyway so i don't see why you'd want to flash it again. Follow the new way method and everything should be fine. You can use the NAND toolkit to select the appropriate partition size.
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Hi Nigeldg.
I now want to install the CWM (long time hh)..
In this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1639932
It says to install CWM with this partition size:
" Flash the Latest CWR (Clockwork Recovery) with the appropriate partition sizes by using the "Repartition" button inside the HD2ToolKit: System: 200MB | Cache: 5MB "
In the thread of CWM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898913
Can I change the partition sizes used for CWM
A. You can by editing the flash.cfg but this is not recommended, CWM is designed to make it easier for switching roms, by flashing a custom partition size you may stop other roms working and require reflashing a new partition size when you want to change roms.
Q. I dont know which partition size to download
A. Depending on what type of roms you plan on using, you should choose the partition size based on the following.
150MB Partition - For bare roms including CyanogenMod, AOSP, and MiUI
250MB Partition - For Standard sense roms including Desire and EVo based ROMs, can also be used for some squashed HD builds
400MB Partition - For Larger roms including unsquashed Desire HD and Z roms, ROMs REQUIRE data2sd for EU HD2 with 512MB NAND
And in the thread in your sig it is possible to download 3 version of the CWM. (150, 250, 400).
How do I need to install the CWM ?
To download the 250MB version, and using the HD2ToolKit to change the partition size and install with System: 200MB | Cache: 5MB (as the rom developer suggested) ?
Thank you!

The thread you've linked to is the old CWM thread. I don't see why it says that you shouldn't change the partition sizes because that's simply not true, pretty much all ROMs use custom sizes. Ignore that advice, it's wrong. In my opinion the easiest thing to do is to download the HD2 NAND Toolkit, click 'MAGLDR repartition', choose 200 and you're done.

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The thread you've linked to is the old CWM thread. I don't see why it says that you shouldn't change the partition sizes because that's simply not true, pretty much all ROMs use custom sizes. Ignore that advice, it's wrong. In my opinion the easiest thing to do is to download the HD2 NAND Toolkit, click 'MAGLDR repartition', choose 200 and you're done.
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Ok.
So I've downloaded the HD2 ToolKit.
Actually what I need to do is this:
1. To choose the 200MB and 5 Cache and then press repartition. (In what way does the phone need to be ? MAGDLR Menu, or other option ? )
2. Then to install the CWM by going to MAGDLR - USB Flasher, connect to the computer, and run the
DAF.exe.
Right ?

1. Open the toolkit
2. Click the MAGLDR repartition tab and select 200 and change the cache size to 5
3. Click 'repartition' (bottom left of the toolkit)
4. Follow the instructions it gives you (boot your phone into USB flasher mode then connect it to your PC) and let it flash.

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1. Open the toolkit
2. Click the MAGLDR repartition tab and select 200 and change the cache size to 5
3. Click 'repartition' (bottom left of the toolkit)
4. Follow the instructions it gives you (boot your phone into USB flasher mode then connect it to your PC) and let it flash.
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And once I've finished this, I need to install the CWM.
To donwload the 250MB version ?

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And once I've finished this, I need to install the CWM.
To donwload the 250MB version ?
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I don't think you understand, THIS IS INSTALLING CWM :') After you've done this, just flash the .zip ROM and you'll be done

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I don't think you understand, THIS IS INSTALLING CWM :') After you've done this, just flash the .zip ROM and you'll be done
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If I've already did it, just do this thing again and it will work ?
because now my phone cant load to the rom, it says NAND Kernel something and boots up to MAGDLR.
Is it OK ?
EDIT:
I've did it and chosed the "AD Recovery" option.
Now I can see that I have CWM Recovery!!
I thought that I had to choose somehow to install the CWM, and that's why I didn't understand.
Now,
Do you recommend to do wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache ?
And after that to install from CWM the ROM that I've transferd to the Root of the SD right ?
Thank you very much !!!

You don't need to wipe anything, that already happened when you flashed CWM. Yes you should just have to flash the ROM now, as said in the guide in my sig. You may want to create an EXT partition but for your particular ROM it's not a necessary step so you can skip that. Glad I could help

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You don't need to wipe anything, that already happened when you flashed CWM. Yes you should just have to flash the ROM now, as said in the guide in my sig. You may want to create an EXT partition but for your particular ROM it's not a necessary step so you can skip that. Glad I could help
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It isn't necessary because it automaticly transfer the data to the SD ?
During the installation a message showed up saying that the rom identified that I don't have an EXT-partition installed.
Can I make a partition using the CWM/ADVANCED/PARTITION-SD ?
Thank you so much for your help!!
You saved me, and becuase of you I didn't sell the phone.
Thank you!!

It isn't necessary because the ROM itself is quite light, so all of it can be fit on to the NAND memory. It would help to create one because you may need it in the future, so I personally would if I were you. The way you described would work fine