Qualcomm MSM8260 (1.5Ghz) vs ST-Ericsson U8500 (1Ghz) - Xperia Arc General

As we probably all know by now the Xperia S and Xperia Ion will be released with Qualcomm MSM8260 SoC's, while all other early 2012 Xperia devices will be released with the ST-Ericsson U8500 SoC.
I was wondering how they compare. The MSM8260 is basically two 8255's with a slightly newer GPU.
What I've heard is that they perform around the same, but that the ST-Ericsson has a much better GPU and (because of the clocks) a slightly less CPU.
Anyone has any more information on this?
Why do I want to know this? I was planning on getting the Xperia S, but I've always thought 4.3" is a bit big, so I'd prefer something slightly smaller to replace my Neo. If Sony will be going 100% ST-Ericsson in the future I'd rather make the switch as soon as possible...

there is no more sony ercisson. Its just sony.

soldiers33 said:
there is no more sony ercisson. Its just sony.
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I know... I didn't mention Sony Ericsson either.

Me too, I want the Tapioca, but it sucks that it doesn't have a 720p screen.
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NovaThor > Snapdragon.
The U8500 is basically a slightly-slower version of the Exynos SoC that's in the likes of the i9100 Galaxy S2.
At 1.2GHz Exynos stomps all over the MSM8X60 at 1.5GHz, to the point where there's a lot of unhappy people who own the Galaxy S2 variants that use the Snapdragon chip and have some pretty unpleasant names for them - the S***rocket for example...
So at 1GHz, it's probably fairly even but I'd still say the edge lies with the NovaThor chip, which is sad given Sony seem hopelessly beholden to Qualcomm for the Xperia S (the Ion is a different story, the Qualcomm chips play much nicer with LTE modems, which is why even Samsung are forced to use them).
What I had personally hoped for was that Sony would use the NovaThor A9600 for their latest flagship handset(s) but that proved to be futile on my part.

Hm. That introduces another dilemma then, bleh!
I was planning on getting the Xperia S as soon as it's released, but I'm not a big fan of the Snapdragons either, and if the NovaThors really are better or comparable then perhaps another device might be better for me... It's a shame though none of the other rumoured phones has a really high res display...
I really hope confirmed details leak out before MWC

Ambroos said:
Hm. That introduces another dilemma then, bleh!
I was planning on getting the Xperia S as soon as it's released, but I'm not a big fan of the Snapdragons either, and if the NovaThors really are better or comparable then perhaps another device might be better for me... It's a shame though none of the other rumoured phones has a really high res display...
I really hope confirmed details leak out before MWC
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Wait for the Mint in September, it costs €500< but it must be a jewel of a phone.

sdk16420 said:
Wait for the Mint in September, it costs €500< but it must be a jewel of a phone.
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Yeah, but September is a loooooooooooooong wait...

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Xperia Arc

Xperia Arc is the latest smartphone by Sony Ericsson that runs Android 2.3 Gingerbread with a custom skin, a 1GHz processor, 4.2” Reality display with Sony Mobile BRAVIA® Engine and an 8MP camera. I will definitely buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Xperia Arc is the latest smartphone by Sony Ericsson that runs Android 2.3 Gingerbread with a custom skin, a 1GHz processor, 4.2” Reality display with Sony Mobile BRAVIA® Engine and an 8MP camera. I will definitely buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It is the design and the Mobile BRAVIA Engine isn't it?
rajasyaitan said:
It is the design and the Mobile BRAVIA Engine isn't it?
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Didn't you hear? Just adding "_____ ENGINE" to any phone will guarantee the clueless consumers will buy in masses!!
Unfortunately, it comes with a single-core CPU.
And they took the sensor from the Cybershot. Won't be out until April though.
It was about time for a 1GHz
Anyway I still faithful to HTC
Sony will be a lot left behind with those specs to be able to compete this year with other phone manufactures because other manufactures will offer dual-cored procs.
1GHz Procs? 512MB?...hey...my Desire already has those specs (with older hardwares of course).
The word "BRAVIA-ENGINE" alone will not be able to withstand the dual-core waves.
My next smartphone will have:
Dual-cored proc
independent graphic proc
1GB RAM
at least 1.5GB internal memory
SD Card slot
HDMI output
USB connnection
Most important: latest available Android version
(No tablets for me)
Currently, I am drooling over the Motorola ATRIX...but wanna wait untill all manufactures has been distributing those dual-cores smarties.
rajasyaitan said:
It is the design and the Mobile BRAVIA Engine isn't it?
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lude219 said:
Didn't you hear? Just adding "_____ ENGINE" to any phone will guarantee the clueless consumers will buy in masses!!
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kinda like seeing a huge rear wing and fart can exhaust on a '98 acura integra
How much will be Xperia Arc ?
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independent graphic proc
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You might have to wait a while on that. It will be a LONG time before AMD or NVIDIA release graphics card for mobile phones. Everything else seems fairly reasonable though.
The Xperia Arc does use the newer snapdragon chips so that is a plus in my book.
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Most important: latest available Android version
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This...If there is anything I learned from owning an X10 is that updates are slow and Sony Ericsson locks down the phone tighter than a nun's...Well you know where I'm going with that.
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If the arc had a dual core cpu the combination of the cpu and the screen would make the battary discharge in half an hour.
Always judge a product from the whole and the final output rather than an individual characteristic. So it has been fully optimize the software, then a single core processor can be much better than a dual core on a cell that has to lift a buggy operating system. See the benchmark http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php...on-xperia-arc/preview/sshots/gsmarena_025.jpg and you will understand.
So the overall performance is what counts. If the mobile is scrolling comfortable as we care what processor time? Just to say 'look I have dual core cpu on my mobile'?.The psp has a single core 333mz and it can ran better than any smart phone.the OS is the key!
And because we get around, do not say that anything is 1Ghz!Did we say things that we have the best (on paper) and lose the substance. As a tear drops because Arc has 8Mpx camera and not 12. If you tell them that it is better than the previous 8Mp and the 12mp they would not understand.Rather prefer to buy a desktop pc if i look for the 1gb ram the 2 core cpu...And all because we have put in one meaningless match, the first megapixel now with ghz processor and mb of Ram.
FRIENDLY
i forgot to say tha 2.4 ginger http://static.techspot.com/fileshost/newspics3/2010/android_24_leaked.jpg
and 3.0 honeycomp would be official http://blog.dialaphone.co.uk/2011/0...-honeycomb-doesnt-need-a-dual-core-processor/
the other phones i think that the would released with the froyo 2.2 not 2.3 ginger. so if you buy the dual core cpu phones you have to wait 2-3 months for the ginger if u preffer the arc you would update in 2-3 months to 2.4 or 3.0...your choice....
That's sounds all nice and good but you're forgetting an important factor. When was the last time Sony Ericsson put out a smart phone on time?
I think you're going to be waiting a lot longer than you think.
as u say it will take some time..thanks for that!
we must wait!also this is not the final edition of the phone...
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If the arc had a dual core cpu the combination of the cpu and the screen would make the battary discharge in half an hour.
Always judge a product from the whole and the final output rather than an individual characteristic. So it has been fully optimize the software, then a single core processor can be much better than a dual core on a cell that has to lift a buggy operating system. See the benchmark http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php...on-xperia-arc/preview/sshots/gsmarena_025.jpg and you will understand.
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What does that benchmark proves? That a 2nd generation CPU is better than a 1st generation? Have you even seen the benchmark for dual core (think +2200 and up)? Did you know dual cores have just as good of a power management as a single core? Did you know the matrix 4G has a 1930mah battery and can last 10hrs of talk time even on 3G while still having a 10mm waistline?
I'm not gonna lie, the design of the Arc is downright amazing (undoubtedly best one out of CES), but other than that, I'd be stupid of purchasing one when there are much better phones out there.
Like i sayed before if the mobile is scrolling comfortable as we care what processor time? Just to say 'look I have dual core cpu on my mobile'?.The psp has a single core 333mz and it can ran better than any smart phone.The design plus the camera plus the screen plus the gin 2.3 and the confirmiration of the 3.0 honeycomp made me take the decision to buy that.the MES is in february so we must wait to take the final decision. Although the Htc Thunderbolt is a very good choce(hightech phone)!The cpu MSM8960 1.2 dual and adreno 3000 would be awesome!but i don't like design.It's like all the htc devices....
This is SE we're talking about, so it's laughable that you're even talking about OS update. Remember what happen in the past? I'm sure people who have X1, X2 and X10 do...
Yes, you should care about processing time. The less time it takes to carry out an instruction/start/run a progam, the least amount of drainage on the battery (equating to less heat generated by the CPU). Scrolling would probably be 2x smoother on a dual core compare to the 2nd gen single core.
Here's an analogy, what's more tiring to your body? Flying in 1st class from the UK to Italy or driving from UK to Italy? Technology is no different. The less time you spend doing any task, the more time you have doing other stuff and the less exhaustive the phone is.
I think u are right!i have a x1 and i know how annoying is that the other phones have the 6.5 and me the 6.1 win mo.But the xda developers have done their trick so i am not afraid about the updates!!!!!!!
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And they took the sensor from the Cybershot. Won't be out until April though.
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April, hell !
If that's true, that would be bad...
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I have to extend my contract here in Holland between April 19 and June 19. I pre ordered one at my local phone shop. i can sell it for good money right away on the internet for sure and buy myself a decent phone if i don't like it, but damn it looks great, i have to find out for myself what it is like....
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Desire HD2 specs leaked

If this is true it's a bit of a kick in the balls to you HD owners...
http://pocketnow.com/android/galaxy-s-2-desire-hd2-desire-2-wildfire-2-full-specs-leaked
8GB internal memory
960x540 resolution
1.2GHz dual core 8260 Snapdragon processor
Mobile technology is always moving forward at an incredible rate. That's why you should always opt for 12 month contacts or buy SIM free keep for a year, sell & upgrade.
These specs look pretty good for the DHD2.
I agree, but if you've just upgraded in the last few weeks this is going to hurt...
Certainly, if you've just ordered or bought the DHD then knowing there will be a better one out will hurt.
I'd be interested to know when it potentially would be released.
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Certainly, if you've just ordered or bought the DHD then knowing there will be a better one out will hurt.
I'd be interested to know when it potentially would be released.
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why would it hurt? htc release a new model every few months, if you have been buying HTC's as long as me you should be used to it, i bought my HTC nike and then the diamond came out, i bought the diamond and they release the HD, blah blah blah, if you buy the Desire HD2 no doubt within a few months a higher spec model will be released
Honestly, the specs aren't that much different!
1080p video recording? meh - and certainly if the 720p recording on the DHD is anything to go by, won't be anything special.
1.2GHz dual core? It's ok I suppose - but DHD does me proud at the moment and as long as I get no lag (and I don't really) then I'm fine with that.
Only real nice thing is the screen - but as we all know - screen specs are highly subject to change in the world of HTC!
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Mobile technology is always moving forward at an incredible rate. That's why you should always opt for 12 month contacts or buy SIM free keep for a year, sell & upgrade
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i completely agree, buy and sell it while it still has decent value and move on to the next one
3.3" screen? Must be a typo.
Still using the Adreno 205... Should have waited for the 220. DHD is supposed to be a flagship line.
Pretty poor, IMHO.
Wow, a lot of people here with a lot of money it would seem!!
If I'd just got the DHD I'd be pissed that this has been announced - fair enough a year after release but less than 6 months?
Well, those are not oficiall ofc and i don`t think sgs will use snapdragoon chips ;o but that qhd screen looks nice
Ahhhhhhhh I hate rumors...& here's why:
"As suspected, the Galaxy S 2 is said to run on a dual-core Qualcomm 8260 1.2GHz processor (not an Orion or Hummingbird, apparently)". Why would Samsung use Qualcomm? Look at the table here to better understand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_sales_leaders_by_year
The RAM is said to be 512...down from 768 Mb. Does that make sense?
Anyway, lets wait & see. MWC is a few days away.
RAWWWWR THE SCREEN IS NOT HD! HD is 1280 x 720 (720p) or 1920 x 1080 (1080p).
960 x 540 is 16:9 widescreen. but not HD. I wish, when specifically talking about screen resolutions, that companies wouldn't just drop "HD" on everything to drum up hype.
As with all technology, what you buy today, will be out of date by the time you have got it home and turned it on. This will always be the case. if you were waiting for the latest bit of kit, you would never buy anything.
I got the Desire, and have upgraded to the DHD. I dont see myself changing phones again for at least 12 months. Unless something really cool comes out
something wrong with this leak
galaxy S2 will never have a snapdrogon, samsung makes their own SOC
as for the dual snapdragon on the htc handsets, well it doesnt make sense either to have the old desire HD adreno 205
dual core snapdragons, gen 3, are coming with adreno 220, its in one chipset
equaly no way desire 2 is coming with the same old CPU/GPU
this is crazy
To be honest if that's the new desire, I'm not impressed. I think this is positive for us dhd users because with the release of this phone they should also release the gingerbread sense to dhd. If they don't it will till be applied by the great minds here at xda.
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something wrong with this leak
galaxy S2 will never have a snapdrogon, samsung makes their own SOC
as for the dual snapdragon on the htc handsets, well it doesnt make sense either to have the old desire HD adreno 205
dual core snapdragons, gen 3, are coming with adreno 220, its in one chipset
equaly no way desire 2 is coming with the same old CPU/GPU
this is crazy
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samsung dont make there own, just like every arm cortex cpu, its made for them by texas instruments, and it's quite conceivable that they would try qualcomm cpu's. as far as computing goes as a whole, its rare for a manufacturer to stick with one h/w company, all the big laptop and pc companies use both intel and AMD cpu's. so its only natural that smartphone manufacturers are sooner or later going to try the same thing
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3.3" screen? Must be a typo.
Still using the Adreno 205... Should have waited for the 220. DHD is supposed to be a flagship line.
Pretty poor, IMHO.
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There is no way you can have MSM8260 and Adreno 205. Ask Qualcomm or just visit their site and read about the 3rd gen chips (something the "professional" mobile reviewers obviously find very difficult - they seem to write more articles than they read ). I personaly don't trust anything that comes from these sites, because their "news" are just rummors and their reviews are always biased on the brand that gives them pre-launch phones (ever wondered why GSMArena never gets HTC units before the launch and always find their phones inferior to Samsung?)
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Wow, a lot of people here with a lot of money it would seem!!
If I'd just got the DHD I'd be pissed that this has been announced - fair enough a year after release but less than 6 months?
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I don't see the problem Technology moves, if you don't want your pride and joy to be out of date in six months don't buy flagship products buy something thats already out of date, yeah if you've just bought a DHD you'd be a little miffed but I am sure if you buy a HD2 within six months something will come along that will blow it away
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Wow, a lot of people here with a lot of money it would seem!!
If I'd just got the DHD I'd be pissed that this has been announced - fair enough a year after release but less than 6 months?
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Pffft i am rather peeved, just gotten me a contract on 3 one plan 35pm for 24 months . . . . . Suppose i'd have to wait now . . . . . when can i upgrade ?
EddyOS said:
If this is true it's a bit of a kick in the balls to you HD owners...
http://pocketnow.com/android/galaxy-s-2-desire-hd2-desire-2-wildfire-2-full-specs-leaked
8GB internal memory
960x540 resolution
1.2GHz dual core 8260 Snapdragon processor
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The Samsung/Qualcomm issue does point to this article being nothing more than a rumor, but still, if only a few of the specs can be realised I actually cannot wait for the Desire HD2!!! I had been interested in maybe moving to a Samsung device if these 4.3inch Super Amoled's hit the market, but the superior resolution would have me all over the HTC.
I can see it being a kick in the teeth for some possibly, but there are some of us here who think nothing of buying new phones every few months and shamefully, I am one of those fools!
Cannot wait for MWC.
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Sonys NGP is quad core!!! With android!!!!

Search it on google. It's even on the official ps site. It futures a quad core arm cortex a9 and quad core sgx543). Jawsdroping right there. Not only that but also a 5 inch oled screen ( better than super anoles) with a resolution as high as the iphones. And the best part, call of duty and other console high end titles. That's enough to make me sell my galaxy s, though I won't cuz I'm loyal. So what do u think about the Orion chip holding out against this beast.
OMG...thats amazing specs right there...wish it were put in a phone tho
now THIS is something worth buying as a phone!!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/xperia-play-final-hardware-hands-on/
The Xperia Play runs Android, not the NGP.
The NGP and the Play have very different specs. I wouldn't recommend selling your Galaxy S for an NGP, cause its not a phone (though it may have skype) .
Either way the NGP is drool worthy, can't wait to see what game devs can do with that hardware. Uncharted looks incredible on it, could be easily confused with its PS3 counterpart.
Smartphones will be on par with it by the end of this year or early next year. The Galaxy S2 already has a quad core GPU (Mali 400) and quad core CPUs (Tegra 3) are supposed to be coming at the end of this year.
Personally, my next upgrade would either be the SGS 2 or the Optimus 3D even though Android apps/games will probably not need that much power anytime soon.
Also, the NGP is not a phone (doesn't even run Android) so I don't know why you would sell your Galaxy S for it.
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Smartphones will be on par with it by the end of this year or early next year. The Galaxy S2 already has a quad core GPU (Mali 400) and quad core CPUs (Tegra 3) are supposed to be coming at the end of this year.
Personally, my next upgrade would either be the SGS 2 or the Optimus 3D even though Android apps/games will probably not need that much power anytime soon.
Also, the NGP is not a phone (doesn't even run Android) so I don't know why you would sell your Galaxy S for it.
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sgs2 with a quad ...........................................................................
sure about that?
Why is this in the Vibrant forum?
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Why is this in the Vibrant forum?
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I agree but it was only in the general forum so I think it doesn't matter...But that xperia play looks legit the only reason I would use it is for emulators!
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sgs2 with a quad ...........................................................................
sure about that?
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Yes, he is right, while the "CPU" is still just a dual-core, the "GPU" is a quad-core, so in theory the SGS 2 GPU should beat the tegra 2 once samsung gets out of its beta software for the SGS 2

SoC in new GT 10.1

Hi,
since at this point it is unknown whatever updated 10.1 will still run on Tegra 2 or something else (Exynos 4201) I would appreciate your opinion on this matter.
What do you think will be inside?
If two versions will be available which one will you buy?
Of you hear any thing new in this subject - please post here.
Since Tegra 2 has some limitations (video playback) I personally hope it will run on Samsung's own SoC, will play all video formats and divix/xivid with DLNA and playback from SD will work beautifully.
I have an issue with Sammy using their own chip for one reason. When every other phone was running a Qualcomm chip and the Galaxy phones were using Hummingbird chips, there was some optimization in the android code that was not included for Samsung chips.
Since Honeycomb has been built around the Tegra 2 chip, I fear the same thing will happen.
Don't believe HC was built around Tegra2...hence the reason for no Dual-Core spec requirement. Hell, it's up and running on devices of all sorts as we speak.
I want Tegra games more than support for h.264 high profile video playback.
So, I want Tegra
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If you want games you should wait for a SONY tablet ;-)
Why do you assume that it will have a worse performance in games than Tegra 2?
I think that it will be better than T2 in both cases.
BTW: thera are gossips of new Moto tablet coming out around fall with T3 (QUad core Tegra) inside...
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If you want games you should wait for a SONY tablet ;-)
Why do you assume that it will have a worse performance in games than Tegra 2?
I think that it will be better than T2 in both cases.
BTW: thera are gossips of new Moto tablet coming out around fall with T3 (QUad core Tegra) inside...
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Assuming he's talking about the PS3 and TegraZone games that require a Tegra chip. Other chips could probably play them, but think Nvidia has it so they look specifically for the Tegra chip.
Not that gaming is my main priority, but I saw all those "Tegra optimized" games on the Tegra Zone.
They are all nice games
It will be sucks if they don't perform as expected on non-Tegra tablet.
Because as I said, I could care less with that H.264 high profile. I can still "convert" them or stream (via future app ala AirPlay on iOS).
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If you want games you should wait for a SONY tablet ;-)
Why do you assume that it will have a worse performance in games than Tegra 2?
I think that it will be better than T2 in both cases.
BTW: thera are gossips of new Moto tablet coming out around fall with T3 (QUad core Tegra) inside...
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by this summer, tegra2 will be one and half years old since announced, and tegra3 will be only half year away
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More than likely, Samsungs SoC will be nearly identical to the Ipad 2's A5 SoC, which has already shown to be several times faster in the gfx department vs a Tegra 2.
Also, the Tegra 2 is missing the NEON optimizations in most other A9 SoC's.
So I put my vote toward Samsung's SoC.
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More than likely, Samsungs SoC will be nearly identical to the Ipad 2's A5 SoC, which has already shown to be several times faster in the gfx department vs a Tegra 2.
Also, the Tegra 2 is missing the NEON optimizations in most other A9 SoC's.
So I put my vote toward Samsung's SoC.
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But like all great hardware, it's only as good as the software it runs. I'd rather have the Tegra if it has exclusive content or specialized support from Google.
Bandage said:
Don't believe HC was built around Tegra2...hence the reason for no Dual-Core spec requirement. Hell, it's up and running on devices of all sorts as we speak.
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There were news reports that Google was going to make Tegra 2 the reference platform for Honeycomb but that never happened. Now it looks like Google is working with LG to come out with a Nexus tablet this summer so it'll be interesting to see what they are putting in that.
Personally I hope Samsung steers clear of Tegra 2 and goes with their own SoC.
Isn't LG already releasing the G-Slate? Are they gonna release another one in the summer? Thats just not a great strategy me thinks.
In sweden there is now a IT fair called Dustin Expo, and one off or bigger computer sites reported that Samsung not going to use Tegra2 like the other manufacturers.
They will use there own dual-core ( probably Exynos ) and Adeno 220.
Starts on 2min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ggUXvZnbM8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looking forward to hear from Samsung whats up, and what spec the 8.9" will have and some reviews on how good there skinn on HC is.
The hardware that Samsung is about to release i really like, but they sucks on software updates and improve the products thay have released. So should i get the big and heavy xoom whit updates or the light and sleek Samsung without support
There is also Asus Transformer to choose from.
bd85 said:
The hardware that Samsung is about to release i really like, but they sucks on software updates and improve the products thay have released. So should i get the big and heavy xoom whit updates or the light and sleek Samsung without support
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Besides Touchwiz, I say it depends on how you're going to use it. If I decide to get a tablet, it'll most likely be the new Galaxy Tab because (I'm going to assume here) that it'll most likely play any video and audio format I throw at it. I think that's the big difference (codecs) between the two as of now besides Touchwiz.
bd85 said:
In sweden there is now a IT fair called Dustin Expo, and one off or bigger computer sites reported that Samsung not going to use Tegra2 like the other manufacturers.
They will use there own dual-core ( probably Exynos ) and Adeno 220.
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If true that would be the best news of the current tablet season as Tegra 2 sucks BIG TIME!
I would also want to know.... how close in design is Apple A5 (the one in iPad 2) by Samsung to Exynos by Samsung
I wouldn't mind if it had their proprietary SoC as what really matters in these tablets is the GPU. It seems the T2 chipset is getting a bit long-in-the-tooth despite not being heavily utilized yet. If Samsung is pairing with the Adreno 220 then that's better than the Tegra 2.
bd85 said:
In sweden there is now a IT fair called Dustin Expo, and one off or bigger computer sites reported that Samsung not going to use Tegra2 like the other manufacturers.
They will use there own dual-core ( probably Exynos ) and Adeno 220.
Starts on 2min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ggUXvZnbM8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looking forward to hear from Samsung whats up, and what spec the 8.9" will have and some reviews on how good there skinn on HC is.
The hardware that Samsung is about to release i really like, but they sucks on software updates and improve the products thay have released. So should i get the big and heavy xoom whit updates or the light and sleek Samsung without support
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Why would they add an adreno 220, when a Mali-400 would be a lot better? Seems like an odd choice to me. Also that prototype is running Tegra 2(assuming it's the same device that's been shown off at other venues).
Maybe we'll see the Adreno 220s on the SGSII as well?
Wasn't the prototype just a 10.1v?
@Toss3
Presumably, the SGS2 will be equipped the dual-core Exynos clocked at 1.2GHz. I say "presumably" because, just like now, Samsung hasn't revealed the true name of the processor, only the clock speed.
Oddly enough, there will also be a Tegra 2 version of the SGS2.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/06/...ayed-until-may-o/&category=classic&postPage=1

Apple's best SoC now in Samsungs Rearview Mirror

I have upgraded my Galaxy S devices with each new model since the S6. I held off on the S20 as I'm not thrilled with the Camera Cut-out on the rear and no 3.5mm Jack. To me the only real advantages over my S10 Plus are the faster chip and bigger battery. The 5G rollout in the US hasn't really hit full speed so it's a non issue. Glad I waited since Samsung's got a beast headed our way in it's next device, likely the S21. Some leaked specs.
AMD Radeon GPU and the headline numbers are extraordinary. 138.25 frames per second (fps) in Aztec Normal (the Snapdragon 865’s Adreno 650 GPU hits 53 fps), 58 fps in Aztec High (the Adreno 650 GPU manages 20 fps). Samsung’s AMD-powered smartphone chipset is delivering circa 2.5x the performance of the fastest Android chipset on the market. It’s also enough to blow away Apple’s A13 used in the iPhone 11 line-up and the new 2020 iPhone SE. The A13 is a 2019 chipset, but it’s hard to image Apple bridging this gap based on the anticipated release of this new Samsung hardware. I'm drooling already, full article here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordon...set-update-galaxy-s20-smartphone-upgrade/amp/
varcor said:
It’s also enough to blow away Apple’s A13 used in the iPhone 11 line-up and the new 2020 iPhone SE. The A13 is a 2019 chipset, but it’s hard to image Apple bridging this gap based on the anticipated release of this new Samsung hardware.
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Glad to hear Samsung has a beastly SoC in the works. However, never underestimate Apple's capability to deliver a competitive SoC.
sublimaze said:
Glad to hear Samsung has a beastly SoC in the works. However, never underestimate Apple's capability to deliver a competitive SoC.
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Well only the gpu part is beastly, the cpu part would be exynos quality so ugh... not so great really lol.
peachpuff said:
Well only the gpu part is beastly, the cpu part would be exynos quality so ugh... not so great really lol.
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Depends, current exynos aren't great, previous generations were better in nearly every way compared to their Snapdragon counterparts.
_Dennis_ said:
Depends, current exynos aren't great, previous generations were better in nearly every way compared to their Snapdragon counterparts.
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I think with the Exynos SoC Samsung was too focused on Single Core performance. They tried to squeeze whatever they could out of the chip all in an effort to close the gap with the Bionic's Benchmarks. Turned out to be the source of all the overheating and battery drain issues, a costly gamble.
varcor said:
I think with the Exynos SoC Samsung was too focused on Single Core performance. They tried to squeeze whatever they could out of the chip all in an effort to close the gap with the Bionic's Benchmarks. Turned out to be the source of all the overheating and battery drain issues, a costly gamble.
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Very possible. Doesn't preclude then changing strategies and making great chipsets again.

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