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Don't you just wish...

I wish the EVO came with the QSD8672 instead of the QSD8650... For those of you who don't know, the QSD8672 is a snapdragon chipset... with dual 1.5ghz CPU's... I will bet there will be a device sporting this bad boy by the end of 2010. But until then GO EVO 4G!!!

gmelchert said:
I wish the EVO came with the QSD8672 instead of the QSD8650... For those of you who don't know, the QSD8672 is a snapdragon chipset... with dual 1.5ghz CPU's... I will bet there will be a device sporting this bad boy by the end of 2010. But until then GO EVO 4G!!!
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And by the time the QSD8672 is release, there will be an QSD9xxx, that sports a dual 2.0Ghz... It's the fate of technology, there's always something better around the corner...

gmelchert said:
I wish the EVO came with the QSD8672 instead of the QSD8650... For those of you who don't know, the QSD8672 is a snapdragon chipset... with dual 1.5ghz CPU's... I will bet there will be a device sporting this bad boy by the end of 2010. But until then GO EVO 4G!!!
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Not at all, besides the fact that 1ghz is plenty fast enough, I would at least like to have the chance to make through the day on a single charge.

I would like to have the 8650a chipset, with the 1.3Ghz 45nm chip, less power usage, more speed. But the 1Ghz will suffice for now. Dual core...not needed.

You need more memory to support that power.

htc scorpion dual core 1.5 ghz processor

Holy freakin' CRAP! The HTC Scorpion has a 12 mega pixel camera AND record 1080p video!! Maybe I should hold out a little longer? But, if I keep holding out for the best phone I'll never make a purchase.

I remember reading that the Scorpion might be an Android smartbook though. At any rate, that could be a long ways off. For most, the EVO (rumored for an early summer release) is powerful enough (heck, more powerful than most phones currently available) and they'll go with it, it having a more immediate availability.

Don't you just wish... That the Evo 4G was out now

...Or better yet, at the start of May. Something to get me through effin' finals.

Antebios said:
Holy freakin' CRAP! The HTC Scorpion has a 12 mega pixel camera AND record 1080p video!! Maybe I should hold out a little longer? But, if I keep holding out for the best phone I'll never make a purchase.
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I hear that's a major problem they're running into...
http://gizmodo.com/5504594/googles-solution-to-android-fragmentation-break-it-apart
your particular problem is something that comes up with any noticeable incline in new technologies, people hold out for the best purchase for their money, this is effecting android sales as a whole. New stuff comming out too close together, they don't want to be left behind, and can't afford to stay bleeding edge.
If you notice in the computer and laptop industry, there are more plateaus now then there used to be. (besides the actual technology being the bottleneck) stuff is released to the public based off projected sales rather than when it's been developed and tested. What you can buy, what has been announced, and what is being developed, and what is being worked on behind closed doors are 4 extremely different categories many "generations" apart from each other. Things are pushed as sales decline, even if they have the technology to do much better, they're planning for sales down the road.

Xperia Arc

Xperia Arc is the latest smartphone by Sony Ericsson that runs Android 2.3 Gingerbread with a custom skin, a 1GHz processor, 4.2” Reality display with Sony Mobile BRAVIA® Engine and an 8MP camera. I will definitely buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

antonymilo said:
Xperia Arc is the latest smartphone by Sony Ericsson that runs Android 2.3 Gingerbread with a custom skin, a 1GHz processor, 4.2” Reality display with Sony Mobile BRAVIA® Engine and an 8MP camera. I will definitely buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It is the design and the Mobile BRAVIA Engine isn't it?

rajasyaitan said:
It is the design and the Mobile BRAVIA Engine isn't it?
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Didn't you hear? Just adding "_____ ENGINE" to any phone will guarantee the clueless consumers will buy in masses!!
Unfortunately, it comes with a single-core CPU.

And they took the sensor from the Cybershot. Won't be out until April though.

It was about time for a 1GHz
Anyway I still faithful to HTC

Sony will be a lot left behind with those specs to be able to compete this year with other phone manufactures because other manufactures will offer dual-cored procs.
1GHz Procs? 512MB?...hey...my Desire already has those specs (with older hardwares of course).
The word "BRAVIA-ENGINE" alone will not be able to withstand the dual-core waves.
My next smartphone will have:
Dual-cored proc
independent graphic proc
1GB RAM
at least 1.5GB internal memory
SD Card slot
HDMI output
USB connnection
Most important: latest available Android version
(No tablets for me)
Currently, I am drooling over the Motorola ATRIX...but wanna wait untill all manufactures has been distributing those dual-cores smarties.

rajasyaitan said:
It is the design and the Mobile BRAVIA Engine isn't it?
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lude219 said:
Didn't you hear? Just adding "_____ ENGINE" to any phone will guarantee the clueless consumers will buy in masses!!
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kinda like seeing a huge rear wing and fart can exhaust on a '98 acura integra

How much will be Xperia Arc ?

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independent graphic proc
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You might have to wait a while on that. It will be a LONG time before AMD or NVIDIA release graphics card for mobile phones. Everything else seems fairly reasonable though.
The Xperia Arc does use the newer snapdragon chips so that is a plus in my book.

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Most important: latest available Android version
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This...If there is anything I learned from owning an X10 is that updates are slow and Sony Ericsson locks down the phone tighter than a nun's...Well you know where I'm going with that.

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If the arc had a dual core cpu the combination of the cpu and the screen would make the battary discharge in half an hour.
Always judge a product from the whole and the final output rather than an individual characteristic. So it has been fully optimize the software, then a single core processor can be much better than a dual core on a cell that has to lift a buggy operating system. See the benchmark http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php...on-xperia-arc/preview/sshots/gsmarena_025.jpg and you will understand.
So the overall performance is what counts. If the mobile is scrolling comfortable as we care what processor time? Just to say 'look I have dual core cpu on my mobile'?.The psp has a single core 333mz and it can ran better than any smart phone.the OS is the key!
And because we get around, do not say that anything is 1Ghz!Did we say things that we have the best (on paper) and lose the substance. As a tear drops because Arc has 8Mpx camera and not 12. If you tell them that it is better than the previous 8Mp and the 12mp they would not understand.Rather prefer to buy a desktop pc if i look for the 1gb ram the 2 core cpu...And all because we have put in one meaningless match, the first megapixel now with ghz processor and mb of Ram.
FRIENDLY

i forgot to say tha 2.4 ginger http://static.techspot.com/fileshost/newspics3/2010/android_24_leaked.jpg
and 3.0 honeycomp would be official http://blog.dialaphone.co.uk/2011/0...-honeycomb-doesnt-need-a-dual-core-processor/
the other phones i think that the would released with the froyo 2.2 not 2.3 ginger. so if you buy the dual core cpu phones you have to wait 2-3 months for the ginger if u preffer the arc you would update in 2-3 months to 2.4 or 3.0...your choice....

That's sounds all nice and good but you're forgetting an important factor. When was the last time Sony Ericsson put out a smart phone on time?
I think you're going to be waiting a lot longer than you think.

as u say it will take some time..thanks for that!
we must wait!also this is not the final edition of the phone...

antonymilo said:
If the arc had a dual core cpu the combination of the cpu and the screen would make the battary discharge in half an hour.
Always judge a product from the whole and the final output rather than an individual characteristic. So it has been fully optimize the software, then a single core processor can be much better than a dual core on a cell that has to lift a buggy operating system. See the benchmark http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php...on-xperia-arc/preview/sshots/gsmarena_025.jpg and you will understand.
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What does that benchmark proves? That a 2nd generation CPU is better than a 1st generation? Have you even seen the benchmark for dual core (think +2200 and up)? Did you know dual cores have just as good of a power management as a single core? Did you know the matrix 4G has a 1930mah battery and can last 10hrs of talk time even on 3G while still having a 10mm waistline?
I'm not gonna lie, the design of the Arc is downright amazing (undoubtedly best one out of CES), but other than that, I'd be stupid of purchasing one when there are much better phones out there.

Like i sayed before if the mobile is scrolling comfortable as we care what processor time? Just to say 'look I have dual core cpu on my mobile'?.The psp has a single core 333mz and it can ran better than any smart phone.The design plus the camera plus the screen plus the gin 2.3 and the confirmiration of the 3.0 honeycomp made me take the decision to buy that.the MES is in february so we must wait to take the final decision. Although the Htc Thunderbolt is a very good choce(hightech phone)!The cpu MSM8960 1.2 dual and adreno 3000 would be awesome!but i don't like design.It's like all the htc devices....

This is SE we're talking about, so it's laughable that you're even talking about OS update. Remember what happen in the past? I'm sure people who have X1, X2 and X10 do...
Yes, you should care about processing time. The less time it takes to carry out an instruction/start/run a progam, the least amount of drainage on the battery (equating to less heat generated by the CPU). Scrolling would probably be 2x smoother on a dual core compare to the 2nd gen single core.
Here's an analogy, what's more tiring to your body? Flying in 1st class from the UK to Italy or driving from UK to Italy? Technology is no different. The less time you spend doing any task, the more time you have doing other stuff and the less exhaustive the phone is.

I think u are right!i have a x1 and i know how annoying is that the other phones have the 6.5 and me the 6.1 win mo.But the xda developers have done their trick so i am not afraid about the updates!!!!!!!

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And they took the sensor from the Cybershot. Won't be out until April though.
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April, hell !
If that's true, that would be bad...
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I have to extend my contract here in Holland between April 19 and June 19. I pre ordered one at my local phone shop. i can sell it for good money right away on the internet for sure and buy myself a decent phone if i don't like it, but damn it looks great, i have to find out for myself what it is like....
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Sonys NGP is quad core!!! With android!!!!

Search it on google. It's even on the official ps site. It futures a quad core arm cortex a9 and quad core sgx543). Jawsdroping right there. Not only that but also a 5 inch oled screen ( better than super anoles) with a resolution as high as the iphones. And the best part, call of duty and other console high end titles. That's enough to make me sell my galaxy s, though I won't cuz I'm loyal. So what do u think about the Orion chip holding out against this beast.

OMG...thats amazing specs right there...wish it were put in a phone tho

now THIS is something worth buying as a phone!!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/xperia-play-final-hardware-hands-on/

The Xperia Play runs Android, not the NGP.
The NGP and the Play have very different specs. I wouldn't recommend selling your Galaxy S for an NGP, cause its not a phone (though it may have skype) .
Either way the NGP is drool worthy, can't wait to see what game devs can do with that hardware. Uncharted looks incredible on it, could be easily confused with its PS3 counterpart.

Smartphones will be on par with it by the end of this year or early next year. The Galaxy S2 already has a quad core GPU (Mali 400) and quad core CPUs (Tegra 3) are supposed to be coming at the end of this year.
Personally, my next upgrade would either be the SGS 2 or the Optimus 3D even though Android apps/games will probably not need that much power anytime soon.
Also, the NGP is not a phone (doesn't even run Android) so I don't know why you would sell your Galaxy S for it.

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Smartphones will be on par with it by the end of this year or early next year. The Galaxy S2 already has a quad core GPU (Mali 400) and quad core CPUs (Tegra 3) are supposed to be coming at the end of this year.
Personally, my next upgrade would either be the SGS 2 or the Optimus 3D even though Android apps/games will probably not need that much power anytime soon.
Also, the NGP is not a phone (doesn't even run Android) so I don't know why you would sell your Galaxy S for it.
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sgs2 with a quad ...........................................................................
sure about that?

Why is this in the Vibrant forum?

Tarzanman said:
Why is this in the Vibrant forum?
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I agree but it was only in the general forum so I think it doesn't matter...But that xperia play looks legit the only reason I would use it is for emulators!

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sgs2 with a quad ...........................................................................
sure about that?
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Yes, he is right, while the "CPU" is still just a dual-core, the "GPU" is a quad-core, so in theory the SGS 2 GPU should beat the tegra 2 once samsung gets out of its beta software for the SGS 2

HTC Pyramid next Nexus device?

http://briefmobile.com/htc-pyramid-renders-leaked-next-nexus-device
What do you guys think?

What do I think? I think that will be my next phone. Especially if it's Vanilla.

It looks like a hot device & possible upgrade from the N1 someday! Here's the main thread discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939909

No trackball
Sent from my Nexus One

Only 768 MB of Ram? Single Core 1.2 GHz?
That's a good upgrade, but not worth all the money for not much of a technology leap.
Maybe if it had 1 GB Ram and a dual core/quad core 1+ GHz processor.

abccg said:
Only 768 MB of Ram? Single Core 1.2 GHz?
That's a good upgrade, but not worth all the money for not much of a technology leap.
Maybe if it had 1 GB Ram and a dual core/quad core 1+ GHz processor.
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Some sites are reporting dual 1.2GHz processors but at this point it's probably just speculation.

If its a dual core, its mine

My money is on the next Nexus device being made by Motorola.

I hope it's not a pentile display like the Atrix.

I really hope that image is a mock up. It's basically an extended nexus minus the trackball.
it looks nice, but not that sexy

Hot looking phone, not worth the upgrade yet IMO.

dual core and a bigger screen ftw. (hope it's dual core)

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Hot looking phone, not worth the upgrade yet IMO.
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I would upgrade just to get a N1 with better/working touch.
That said, I prefer AMOLED.

HTC Pyramid will be first HTC's dual core phone. Looks good IMO

htc always rocks....
great devices

Everyone take a look at the back of it. We don't know if its a mock up picture or not, most likely, though I hope it will be like that when it comes to the states. But again, look at the back of your nexus one, then look at another android phone, then look at the pyramid picture. The google logo is google stand alone, which only dedicates to nexus line. Regular android phones don't have that
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No trackball and what looks like no notification lights!!!
Why are we going backwards?

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No trackball and what looks like no notification lights!!!
Why are we going backwards?
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You might as well get used it, if my memory serves me correctly no recently released HTC Android device has a trackball. Actually, not just HTC, the trackball is almost non-existant on Android phones now.

Boswell20 said:
If its a dual core, its mine
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It's got a dual-core 1.2 (per core) Snapdragon aka Scorpion. It's the same SoC in the HP TouchPad; better than Tegra 2.
EDIT: It's way WORSE than Tegra 2..... it's a Cortex A8 device, with an underwhelming GPU
HTC Pyramid benchmarks
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...60-smartbench-2011-result-have-been-revealed/

Don't see the point of single-core, sub-1gb-RAM phones in 2011 ... seriously.
Tegra 3 is coming out in august for pads, christmas for phones. Hoping HTC makes a nice Nexus HD or something out of it for the holidays.
- Tegra 3
- 1gb DDR3
- 16-32gb internal
- micro-sd slot
- 3.7-4.0in HD screen
- no keyboard for the love of God
- same build quality as N1 (not some Dollar-store Nexus S plastic plz)
- NFC or not, don't really care since it won't be widely used until like 2014
- Some sort of LED notification area (not necessarily a trackball, but an LED which we can control the same we do now on the N1... it's MUCH NEEDED!)
- this is a personal choice, but the same button placement (BACK - MENU - HOME - SEARCH) would rock ... I know most phones now have the BACK and MENU inversed...
- Dock support would rock too (same 3-pin system, wtv...)
- Most importantly, Vanilla Android. At that point, I'm guessing it will be Ice Cream [Sandwich?] or J...jello? copyright... wtv... something J.
No use buying a single-core phone in 2011 ! stick to the N1 for now...

Your next phone (after DHD)

So I’ve had my DHD for a about a year or more now
I still love it even with its limited battery I also have just recently started trying out root access and used my first rom
But I still find myself wanting a new phone & hardware; does anybody else find the recent phones from HTC all much the same with nothing that stands out?
I like HTC Sense its one the of main reasons I got my DHD but I’m considering jumping ship and going for a Galixy Nexus.
I hope HTC come up with something good when they release the first HTC Android 4 phone.
I thought it might be interesting to hear what other members and owners of a DHD are hoping for in your next phone from HTC.
Personally I’m over the CPU/GPU marketing race I find my DHD has more than enough power for the way I use it its IMO very similar to the Megapixel marketing of digital cameras.
I’d personally like to see a shift or segment of the market move into phones that last all day, perhaps with some new battery technologies
What are your thoughts / ideas and & wishes for your next HTC phone after the DHD

Something with a tegra 3 chip. Plus it should sort out the battery life as well. Some of the leaked shots of htcs quad core phones look great so I'll probably stick with them because I've not been let down by my dhd plus the build quality is miles ahead of Samsung and lg. Only Motorola have such durable builds out of the other OEMs but I've always found their software let them down, maybe that'll change with the Google takeover. Anyway this is all talk for another day as my dhd feels as though I'll get at least another 8/9 months out of it without problems

in the next couple weeks im switching to an SII then that should hold me to July when i'll buy whatever the best phone out is or maybe the galaxy nexus

tbh tegra 3 is not a real quad core but a dual core with 4 threads meaning it's faster than tegra 2 but in theory by 25%. You can say that 4 threaded dual core can be equal to a 3 core CPU.
So i believe i'll get something with real quad core processor until then i'll wait for 1-2 years...DHD would work just fine in the meantime.

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tbh tegra 3 is not a real quad core but a dual core with 4 threads meaning it's faster than tegra 2 but in theory by 25%. You can say that 4 threaded dual core can be equal to a 3 core CPU.
So i believe i'll get something with real quad core processor until then i'll wait for 1-2 years...DHD would work just fine in the meantime.
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ill just have to see what phones HTC has released when my contract ends next nov so till then this tough built DHD will do fine

Aamir.Badat said:
ill just have to see what phones HTC has released when my contract ends next nov so till then this tough built DHD will do fine
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Yep, exactly my position! Not sure anything is floating my boat at the moment though, would like better battery life but nothing else is screaming out at me. Wont be going with the Samsungs whilst they have the flimsy feel to them, I just like the heft of my DHD in my hand too much

shad0wboss said:
tbh tegra 3 is not a real quad core but a dual core with 4 threads meaning it's faster than tegra 2 but in theory by 25%. You can say that 4 threaded dual core can be equal to a 3 core CPU.
So i believe i'll get something with real quad core processor until then i'll wait for 1-2 years...DHD would work just fine in the meantime.
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Maybe I've picked it up wrong but that's not what I've read about the tegra 3. From all the PR details the tegra 3 is a genuine quad core with a fifth slave core running at 600 MHz which is the main utility driver with the other four cores kicking in on demand. From all the write ups I've seen this equates to a genuine saving of power on day to day tasks but a real world benefit of double the power of the equivelant dual core. I'll see if I can find some links later as I'm on my phone at the mo and I can't be arsed copy pasting

Man this seems strange....I got my Desire here with 1ghz processor.
My very first PC was the fastest out at the time, with a 120mhz processor and 8mb of RAM & a 1gb hard drive....lol.
But now yuh got dual core 1.5ghz phones and quad cores coming along!!
Wonder what will be about in 50 years time?
Prob HTC Sonic Boom, 55 core super charger x 4 turbo 1,000,000mhz processor
CRAZY how technology seems to whizz along!!!!!
matt

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Man this seems strange....I got my Desire here with 1ghz processor.
My very first PC was the fastest out at the time, with a 120mhz processor and 8mb of RAM & a 1gb hard drive....lol.
But now yuh got dual core 1.5ghz phones and quad cores coming along!!
Wonder what will be about in 50 years time?
Prob HTC Sonic Boom, 55 core super charger x 4 turbo 1,000,000mhz processor
CRAZY how technology seems to whizz along!!!!!
matt
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Won't happen, we'll hit the singularity before then. They reckon it'll be in the next twenty years

I've ordered Samsung GSII, should be delivered by the end of next week.
Still not sure whether I'm going to like it or not. I'm used to sense ROMS.
Let's see

Nokia Lumia 800 or the Galaxy Nexus

hero000 said:
I've ordered Samsung GSII, should be delivered by the end of next week.
Still not sure whether I'm going to like it or not. I'm used to sense ROMS.
Let's see
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You'll love it, its a beautiful phone.
I love sense, I've tried all the roms but always end up back with sense. The only one that's broken that cycle is the beta ics rom going round but none of the others come close in my mind. Even cm7 with go launcher(the best way to go to my mind) is incomparible to HTC sense. Sense is beautiful, no other weather widget is even within touching distance if sense 3 or 3.5 and many other sense features are the same. The only problem for some is the bulk that sense takes, but sense comes fully loaded. You don't need a launcher, don't need a weather app, don't need a anything, its all just there. Problem is android users feel the need to be different more often than not, hence the flashing addiction( trust me I'm one of em) but for the uninitiated or those who just want it to work out of the box sense is the way to go.
But back to the topic, the sgs2 is awesome. My brother. In law has one and I must say its a staggering achievement. Powerful, smooth and a great clean crisp display, plus its in line for one of the first ics OEM updates make it the phone to have to my mind, even in front of the galaxy nexus mainly due to the camera.
You really will not be disappointed

What about HTC Zeta.
Any real news about it other than rumers.
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dasj24 said:
What about HTC Zeta.
Any real news about it other than rumers.
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium
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Problem with this us HTC aren't planning on release of its new range until march/April do anything before then is pure speculation but that was one of the phones I was alluding to, the other being the htc edge

Yesterday I ordered my Motorola RAZR
I hesitated between Motorola and Google Nexus Prime, but Prime is no Mass Storage ... and only 5MP camera and No Gorilla Glass
Prime is on ISC but Motorola on Gingerbread but he will have an ICS update in January

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Maybe I've picked it up wrong but that's not what I've read about the tegra 3. From all the PR details the tegra 3 is a genuine quad core with a fifth slave core running at 600 MHz which is the main utility driver with the other four cores kicking in on demand. From all the write ups I've seen this equates to a genuine saving of power on day to day tasks but a real world benefit of double the power of the equivelant dual core. I'll see if I can find some links later as I'm on my phone at the mo and I can't be arsed copy pasting
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haha now i can't find the link where i read it. I think you're right because i just read about tegra 3 and it does say that it has got 4 cortex A9 cores and a fifth core running at 600mhz...
i think i got my pc mixed up with tegra 3; recently got a mobility i5 (dual core with 4 threads) lol
Cheers!

Ideally something with a native fedora, realistically probably something i can dual boot

possibly stick to htc ...unless they take a turn for the worse
if android jellybean comes in august or so, by november (when my contract ends) i'll have a htc jellybean phone

I'll be keeping my DHD for another year, by that time AFAIK there should be quad core phones from all brands, I've heard the Samsung Galaxy SIII will be awesome, but a part of me never wants to leave HTC.
Does anyone have other suggestions for late 2012 (let's just assume the world won't end).

well.., for me i can't live without HTC sense, and i love HTC company very much iam using there phones from along time HTC always different and with HTC sense you are unique.
iam thinking to buy HTC EVO 3D, i like this phone but also i love my phone too