[Q] Heat on Defy - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi folks
im using a rom that i love and is the best i´ve tried.WajkIUI 1.12.16 ICS
but i have a consern and is about the phone heat.
this rom is overclocked this way :
350 / 30
700 / 40
1100/60
i want to know if it is normal that the phone gets hot most of the time when im web browsing and making calls. maybe its a baseband or overclock issue.
some times i get 45-50 C and my phone is on FIRE
when i was on CM7 RC1.5 i never have this heat problem.
so if anyone can give some advise that will be great
thanks and sorry for my english

mine using latest WajkIUI version, its totally stable and the battery percentage usage is really great.
heat normally around 32 c.

Install the battery monitor and see what is using your battery, i know that wiui consumes more battery than CM7, but i think 45º isn't common

I had a similar situation after flashing CM9 ICS. The phone went hot (also when in standby) with actually no obviouse reason (battery life was also only a few hours). Back then, after reflashing and whiping of cache and dalvik cache the problem disapeared.
I'm not sure if reflashing is needed, but if anything else fails I would give it a try.

saneToMore said:
hi folks
im using a rom that i love and is the best i´ve tried.WajkIUI 1.12.16 ICS
but i have a consern and is about the phone heat.
this rom is overclocked this way :
350 / 30
700 / 40
1100/60
i want to know if it is normal that the phone gets hot most of the time when im web browsing and making calls. maybe its a baseband or overclock issue.
some times i get 45-50 C and my phone is on FIRE
when i was on CM7 RC1.5 i never have this heat problem.
so if anyone can give some advise that will be great
thanks and sorry for my english
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Hi you can read an article here :
http://androidunderground.blogspot.com/2011/05/setvsel-overclock-and-undervolt-your.html
its regarding overclocking & undervolting.. may 1100/60 is a problematic figure ..!! u can try to make it little lower ..! hope it works..!!

my ways
Hey, my setup is like this,
300/25
600/35
800/45
and so set in my mind, very energy efficient, I use the version CM7.2, Chinese optimize the modified version. My phone model is mb526, that is, mb525 +, BL = 6, do not know your phone is practical

try juce defender extreme

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[Q] Do you have battery problems with SwiftDroid RC5?

Hi! I wanted to know if you guys have a problem with the battery life on SwiftDroid RC5. I have a poor battery life and therefore big battery problems.
i had mine and bought a new batt no probs after that
Yes, I do. Since RC4 and RC5 I have very poor battery life. Before it was enough to charge once every other day, now I have to do it daily.
Actually after installing RC5 it was a disaster as battery didn't keep even 24 hours but after recalibration it's better. But even then during the course of the day while doing basically nothing (say, sending and receiving 3 or 4 sms) it goes down from 99% to 40%.
Edit: I should mention that I overclocked to 800MHz, but I used to do it before RC4.
hmskrecik said:
Yes, I do. Since RC4 and RC5 I have very poor battery life. Before it was enough to charge once every other day, now I have to do it daily.
Actually after installing RC5 it was a disaster as battery didn't keep even 24 hours but after recalibration it's better. But even then during the course of the day while doing basically nothing (say, sending and receiving 3 or 4 sms) it goes down from 99% to 40%.
Edit: I should mention that I overclocked to 800MHz, but I used to do it before RC4.
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Same here. I'm moving on Cyanogenmod 6.
yeah swiftdroid is a real battery drainer but
on swiftdroid on average my battery lasted 2 days..
but still i use cyan6!!
good in battery and performance!!
Same here. Experiencing battery problems on SwiftDroid aswell. Like mentioned above the battery drains even when doing nothing. Experience this on basically any mod built on SwifDroid ofcourse. Changed to EleganceSwift, waiting for mike to release AOSP with Bluetooth-free radio ;-)
There's something more to it.
Recently I was playing a bit with my phone, installed couple of applications and then suddenly I realized that battery doesn't drain as fast as it used to. One thing I noted is that for example Videos application doesn't reside in memory anymore. I'm not saying this one was the sole battery hog but I'm starting to suspect that those cases of battery going down very fast may be related to some misbehaving app or apps and not necessarily be Gingerbread's fault.
If that's the case, the solution would be, I imagine, to trim system preferences to have such apps killed fast not to let them stay active.
using ASIS atm, but when I was using RC5 I didn't notice much faster draining. Still, it depends how many apps are running on your device and did you overclock it? I used to have min 250MHz, max 600MHz and it was pretty fine with texting, multiple apps running and music. Now with min 825MHz/max 825MHz it's draining faster ofc
Well,I remember a day when i update to SwiftDroid RC5, the batter drains and there isnt any app running in background after that i changed to a another rom.
btw fdespotovski, Multiverse is my favorite rom, in fact, i wrote on the offcial blog but i have problems with the RC3, statusbar sound widget doesnt work properly for now im on RC2
O.O cant stand the bad battery life of 2.2 or 2.3 so back to the old 2.1 im now using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038337
the gold edition
bs828 said:
O.O cant stand the bad battery life of 2.2 or 2.3 so back to the old 2.1 im now using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038337
the gold edition
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which 2.2 did u use??
My battery life is alright.. With hard gaming about
one day.. Doing nothing up to 4days!!
androidboss7 said:
which 2.2 did u use??
My battery life is alright.. With hard gaming about
one day.. Doing nothing up to 4days!!
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Project Utopia
bs828 said:
Project Utopia
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i had good battery life with Utopia!
crystalic said:
using ASIS atm, but when I was using RC5 I didn't notice much faster draining. Still, it depends how many apps are running on your device and did you overclock it? I used to have min 250MHz, max 600MHz and it was pretty fine with texting, multiple apps running and music. Now with min 825MHz/max 825MHz it's draining faster ofc
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I'm not using ASIS, still at RC5, and what I reported is that both RC5 and RC4 drain battery much faster than earlier versions. Assuming ASIS is just cosmetic change to RC5 it doesn't surprise me you didn't notice any difference. And again, I do overclock to 800MHz and I do it since M5 if memory serves me well. I know principles of overclocking and I know, and accept, drawbacks that come with it. But when at the same clock RC3 can live two days or more while sometimes RC5 barely manages only one then I suspect something is not right.
I tried to check which applications are responsible for battery drain but system report is not helping when telling that 98% took Android system, 2% cell standby and 2% phone idle.
Sorry for necroposting but I didn't want to litter forum with new thread and the problem itself hasn't go away.
I'm still using SwiftDroid v2.0 RC5 and until recently I still had problem of battery barely keeping one day: whole night on the charger and after moderate to no use during the day on the evening it was almost drained.
Recently I installed one more application (rather unrelated, I'd need really solid proof that CPU Spy directly improves energy usage) and after that the battery easily keeps for two days. Which brings back the theory I have that the short battery life is not necessarily caused by Android itself but by some applications staying in memory and not sleeping properly. If so, installing extra app may help just for this reason that it having higher priority will swap out those misbehaving ones.
Thus I propose little hunt, if anyone's interested. I'd like to stay focused on v2.0 RC5 (maybe RC4/ASIS if you believe the difference is not too big). I need reported both GOOD and BAD battery life. In either case please write down all apps currently in memory (you can skip those you have installed, I'm mostly interested in what comes from ROM). And don't forget to mention which actual version do you use and whether it's good or bad case.
Given some meaningful data I hope to isolate which apps cause excessive battery drainage. I'm not sure what to do with that information next but I think it would be good start anyway.
To make said start, here's what I have:
SwiftDroid 2.0 RC5 / GOOD battery
- DSP Manager
- Usage Timelines Free
- Doit.im
- K-9 Mail
- Auto Memory Manager
- Superuser
- Settings
- TM World Clock
- Go launcher EX (doesn't report itself as staying in memory but I suppose it has to be running somewhere)
custom roms...with gingerbread will definately have faster battery usage!! u cant help it
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use stock roms.... if u want good battery life!
Guys help please, I have a battery/charging problem after installing RC5, this is my first ever custom ROM, it worked great yesterday, but after charging it over night I'm stuck at 99% it won't go up nor down, the phone won't charge and it won't even connect to PC via USB I tried turning it off completely and then plugged in the charger but it just booted up (is it supposed to do that this is my first android?) and that was it. Everything else works fine, wifi etc.... Is there a way to fix this ? I can't transfer a new custom rom to the sd when it won't connect to the PC
mgkilla said:
Guys help please, I have a battery/charging problem after installing RC5, this is my first ever custom ROM, it worked great yesterday, but after charging it over night I'm stuck at 99% it won't go up nor down, the phone won't charge and it won't even connect to PC via USB I tried turning it off completely and then plugged in the charger but it just booted up (is it supposed to do that this is my first android?) and that was it. Everything else works fine, wifi etc.... Is there a way to fix this ? I can't transfer a new custom rom to the sd when it won't connect to the PC
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the battery stuck at 99 % is a often coming bug and i don't know any solutions mine goes to 97 % ...
ehen phone is shut down and you plug the charger its normal that its booting(because of fastboot)
connection to pc should work, try another port re-install the drivers
thanks ...............
I also have a battery problem... i have installed this ROM 3 days ago, and now i can't charge my battery over 45-55%. Phone was charging all night long, and batter lasted for a day and a half, but its annoying... btw, what now, do I delete battstats now at 55%, when i can not charge phone to 100%?

[Q] kernel for GB retail?

hi guys im a newbie about android. yesterday i have updated my phone with motorola update gingebread for ms2 retail (italian).
I wish to know if is there a kernel for improve battery duration, i`ve searched around and on this forum but have found nothing.
thx!
edit: around i`ve read that i can improve my battery life installing setcpu or milestone overclock and setting up some profiles with cpu and monitor differents frequences.
anyone tried it? is this helping battery life and are these app compatible with new stock gingerbread 2.3.4 for ms2 retail?
any advice guys? im still searching around, can someone address me to on the right way(aany guide or thread talking about this).
I have never had any battery issues and still don't. Still rockin' at about 23 hours non stop with WiFi and 3G on and brightness set to automatic.
I actually realized I didn't even undervolt yet, so I guess battery performance might be improved.
hi dude, thx for ur reply.
do u use a custom rom? or different battery?
as i told i use a ms2 unbranded with stock rom, now updated battery seems going better now than when i was on froyo but still low hard arriving in the night if i use wifi
The only kernels we can get on ms2 are the stock ones thanks to the locked boot loader. If you downlooad milestone2toolbox from one of the threads in the android development forum (pretty sure miui has it on first page), it has a pretty nice over/underclock feature. And custom roms will help you battery life somewhat, however if you are like me and can't put your phone down, and are on it all the time, you'll still only get like 4 - 6 hours battery life .
Once and once only, I squeezed out 24 hours, I was very proud. Granted that I was bored out of my brain, but still managed about 15 minutes of gaming, a couple calls and about a dozen sms, 1/2 hour browsing xda, another half on android market.
And I don't know about other people's experience with it, but Juice defender seemed to have actually DECREASED my battery life - quite significantly I might add. A friend at work tried it too and unistalled that same day from the amount of drain he got :/. I suspect perhaps its more useful on eclair, but with gingerbread (and maybe froyo) it is redundant.
Moral of the story - underclocking is your friend for battery life. I'm underclocked to 800 mhz and barely notice any performance loss - even when playing NOVA hd
Sent from my A953 using xda premium
hey dude thx for ur reply!
ok ill try tool box. yeah i think same on juice defender.
well i`ve not calibrated my battery and dont know if it helps, but my battery life especially when use wifi is very low!btw ive noticed that the over 60% of consume of the battery juice is about screen. I was thinking of underclock gpu too when i dont use games etc... is that possible on milestone 2? i`ve found nothing around about that
I didn't know phones could have gpu clocked? Unless you were just speculating
Yeah the screen is a bit of a power hog, but just remember that it has back lights lighting it the whole time your using it, so that's the reason it drains so much. So either setting screen brightness to low or automatic is a plus. Obviously low is best but its pretty hard to see . Autosync/gps will push apps like facebook into the lead too.
I'd recomend one of those recharable portable batteries that has a usb out port, they are so handy in a pinch it's a bit of a decent investment too since you can just plug whatever usb cable you have to charge any device really
Oh and using your phone's internet is a crazy, crazy drain to the battery!
Sent from my A953 using xda premium

my battery drains so fast

hello everyone.
i just got the note a week ago. a friend of mine upgrade it to 2.3.6
i dont know much about room and root and kernel and all this. (noop)
the phone drains battery so fast . and i dont even use WiFi or internet or anything or Bluetooth or gaming. i just get few short calles thats it. and it last for 16 hrs ????
dont know why. here is some screen shots from everything. it might tells u what the problem are>
i hope u can recommend the best room or root or kernel for me to make the most out of my battery > or go on stock or what. idk. help me
Why don't you try hardcore's speedmod kernel, (see in in development forum) ?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
try a different kernel like franco or abyssal
so all i need is kernal?
so all i need is to change the kernel ?
witch is the best for battery
franco or abyssal
or
hardcore's speedmod kernel
and where i can download them?
and how to replace the kernel with the new one?
im sorry i know im a pain in the a$$
it just im new to this. thnx for replying and helping
مرحب أخى
Replied to your post on mobile guide forum
I use Franco Kernel for a month now and battery last to the end of the day with not too much use
I see your using GO Launcher.
I've had my note a little over a week, when I first got it I went a bit nuts and grabbed every app left right and centre. Including GO Launcher, I ended up in a similar position as you though - my battery would drain completely in around 6-8hours (of heavy usage mind you).
Last night I uninstalled all the GO features and I'm now back on the stock TWLauncher, after nearly 12hours, I still have around 60% battery with similar usage.
Many things affect how quickly the battery drains - most notably, how much you use it. But also if your in an area with weak/no signal it can potentially drain your battery as the phone constantly seeks a signal. (Had this issue with the Galaxy Ace).
Get rid of go launcher and the animated wallpaper
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
thermax04 said:
مرحب أخى
Replied to your post on mobile guide forum
I use Franco Kernel for a month now and battery last to the end of the day with not too much use
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many thnx to u brother . i just read your reply at mobile guide. thnx for the quick reply.
just instaled the franco kernel
just flashed the kernel . and im amazed by it . the battery is 29%.
in the battery usage it says 18hrs
cant wait to see how it'll be after full charge . will update u with the results
thnx for the help guys . XDA ROCKSSSSSSS
poope said:
Get rid of go launcher and the animated wallpaper
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
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i did get rid of it > hope it helps too
Try all the different kernels , they can make a huge difference and each phone is different
From the big ole Note
something strange happens today. and it has been almost a half day since i've flashed franco kernel .
and the temp went up to 102? is that normal i felt the heat up to my ear while i were on a call, it didnt happen b4. i used the WiFi for like 10 min?
. hope someone tells me whats wrong
You should'nt have to flash kernels and whatnot, my note performs best when left stock...Just be carfull.with some badly programmed apps.
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Mr_ManSHSter said:
something strange happens today. and it has been almost a half day since i've flashed franco kernel .
and the temp went up to 102? is that normal i felt the heat up to my ear while i were on a call, it didnt happen b4. i used the WiFi for like 10 min?
. hope someone tells me whats wrong
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There are two things I found that helped temperature...
1) Turn off the Note and charge it for an hour or so to get to full charge
Use it for a while and if it is still hot....
2) Reboot into Recovery mode (I use CWM) and then clear the Davlik cache
I did have temp problems and screen sleeps with Franco 10, so have gone back to Franco 6 - it was very good on my phone. As you will read, every phone seems to be unique - some kernels are great on one phone and not so good on others.... Just make sure to take a good backup and test it before trying anything new.
Another tip for improved performance...
Disable wi-fi when you don't need it and wi-fi sharing (I use Titanium Backup but there are others out there) - I found this made a big difference - maybe 5-10%.
Good luck.
TempusFudgeIt said:
There are two things I found that helped temperature...
1) Turn off the Note and charge it for an hour or so to get to full charge
Use it for a while and if it is still hot....
2) Reboot into Recovery mode (I use CWM) and then clear the Davlik cache
I did have temp problems and screen sleeps with Franco 10, so have gone back to Franco 6 - it was very good on my phone. As you will read, every phone seems to be unique - some kernels are great on one phone and not so good on others.... Just make sure to take a good backup and test it before trying anything new.
Another tip for improved performance...
Disable wi-fi when you don't need it and wi-fi sharing (I use Titanium Backup but there are others out there) - I found this made a big difference - maybe 5-10%.
Good luck.
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thnx for your help. and the quick reply. im on franco 9 right now.
the problem is idk how to backup my data and programs . the point is im new to android . i did flash it with a friend's help. it was easy tho. but still.
would u recommend me good app to backup my programs b4 i flash it.
cuz i've read i need to do the wipe and clear Davlik cache. i didnt do that. cuz the friend who helped me didnt tell me too. so i just flashed >
what u recommend me 2 do?
Mr_ManSHSter said:
thnx for your help. and the quick reply. im on franco 9 right now.
the problem is idk how to backup my data and programs . the point is im new to android . i did flash it with a friend's help. it was easy tho. but still.
would u recommend me good app to backup my programs b4 i flash it.
cuz i've read i need to do the wipe and clear Davlik cache. i didnt do that. cuz the friend who helped me didnt tell me too. so i just flashed >
what u recommend me 2 do?
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There are a number of ways of doing it... personally i use two...
1) ClockWorkMod backup
2) Titanium backup
The first one is a great way to get a total backup of everything if you need to get back to previous setup, the second is the same but also great for backing up individual apps and better... freeezing them so they dont run!
try using the kernel abyssnote 4.2, I was using the Franco thought it was going like the battery in stock, with an abyss felt great savings
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362424&highlight=abyssnote+kernel+4+2
AbyssNote kernel 4.2 Final CW Touch Original Logo:
http://www.mediafire.com/?c65mndvpk6ocbaa
Changelog v4.2 Final:
Changed Camera frequency to 800 Mhz for battery save
Changed Touch frequency to 800 Mhz for battery save
Changed OTG frequency to 800 MHz for battery save
Lower automatic brightness
Sd Card mount fix (workers finally…)
Mr_ManSHSter said:
thnx for your help. and the quick reply. im on franco 9 right now.
the problem is idk how to backup my data and programs . the point is im new to android . i did flash it with a friend's help. it was easy tho. but still.
would u recommend me good app to backup my programs b4 i flash it.
cuz i've read i need to do the wipe and clear Davlik cache. i didnt do that. cuz the friend who helped me didnt tell me too. so i just flashed >
what u recommend me 2 do?
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hi,(i tried PM reply 2 u,but not sure its goin.so this post)
i saw ur screenshots.
as u r on a custom rom,i cant compare my Note 2 urs.
I am on foll stock rom (screenshot attached)
u can try going back to stock rom(download from dr ketans thread)
run the note as stock for 48 hrs n see how battery lasts.
if there is huge battery drain then also,show it to samsung.
if not,install apps one by one,keeping few hours in between.u can easily detect battery drain of some app like that.
personally i use go-launcher n find it to be very less battery consuming.
yesterday i've installed an antivirus and is watching out for battery drain now.
hope this helps...

Siyah vs. CM9 Remix | for Resurrection

Hey this is a thread for all the Resurrection lovers out there to discuss what Kernel goes best with Resurrection ROM
I've tried several Kernels by myself but couldn't come to a conclusion which is better in which aspects.
So lets discuss openly the pros and cons of each Kernel
If you have tried any other kernel other than CM9 and Siyah please put your opinions as well.​
Nice post! I'd be interested to see the results from ppl as I just updated to latest 1.7 remix and this time have left the CM9 kernal. I did think about flashing siyah straight after 1.7 package but decided to give CM9 a trial first
Will report in a few days!
deckio007 said:
Nice post! I'd be interested to see the results from ppl as I just updated to latest 1.7 remix and this time have left the CM9 kernal. I did think about flashing siyah straight after 1.7 package but decided to give CM9 a trial first
Will report in a few days!
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I'm a Siyah fan too but after reading few reviews considered to give a try with CM9 will see how it goes
I'm currently using the stock CM9 with 1.7 and found it to feel pretty good so far, messed up a little yesterday when the phone froze while playing a video.
Before freezing the phone had 50% battery after removing the battery and restarting, the battery had dropped to 15%
I'm still a bit of a noob to all this so go easy
When flashing a new kernel, do I just put the zip on the card and flash?
Or do I need to wipe anything first?
This is my personal opinion, not trying to put anyone down.
Okay tried CM9 Remix kernel for few hours and already fedup :\
I see no better battery life compared to Siyah kernel, in fact CM9 Remix Kernel had lesser support than Siyah.
Lets see;
Siyah -
CWM touch recovery (and full support)
additional cpu governors (lulzactive,smartassV2,etc..)
Overclocking upto 1.6
support for BLN(Back light notifications)
CM9 Remix -
NO CWM touch recover and some of the CWM features are not available
NO additional CPU governors
NO overclocking
NO support for BLN
So for me CM9 Remix kernel isn't the one.
as i have tried Siyah kernel already im going to give Abyss or some other Kernel a try and will update on how it goes
This is a really difficult conversation because there are so many variables.
1) Kernels - each one has configurations so you need to mention what governor you are using and any other mods that you have done to the basic kernal config. Or if you are using it stock without changes you could state that.
2) Apps - all of us have different apps installed and some apps make demands on the system when it is supposed to be "sleeping". Dedicated battery enthusiasts use CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats to try to figure out what is eating the battery all the time. Then they freeze those apps until they are needed.
3) Usage - I'm retired, so I play with my phone a lot....spend an hour a day just reading XDA. I must turn it on at least 30 times between charges. Others have to work, so they put it in their pockets and leave it alone for a while. Some folks play 3D games which consume power like crazy. Using phone data eats more power than wifi. A black background on your screen eats less than a white background... and so on.
So this is not a simple conversation. The more you tell about your situation, the more others can see if it applies to them.
(PS - I´m not talking much about my setup because I'm still on RR 1.1 with Siyah 3.0.1+. I´m trying various governors to see which works best - currently on lutzactive. I'm usually down to around 45% at bedtime which is fine with me.....If I leave the phone alone and just use it as a phone, I can probably go 24 hours.
Siyah: Feature packed, lots of fluff, but very nice options as mentionned earlier.
CM9: Basic, VERY BASIC kernel. Gets the job done and most people sync their base with it.
I personally use CM9 with Siyah, works great.
karendar said:
Siyah: Feature packed, lots of fluff, but very nice options as mentionned earlier.
CM9: Basic, VERY BASIC kernel. Gets the job done and most people sync their base with it.
I personally use CM9 with Siyah, works great.
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Yeaaa, I agree with You
Siyah Kernel works great with My S2
quijote1 said:
This is a really difficult conversation because there are so many variables.
1) Kernels - each one has configurations so you need to mention what governor you are using and any other mods that you have done to the basic kernal config. Or if you are using it stock without changes you could state that.
2) Apps - all of us have different apps installed and some apps make demands on the system when it is supposed to be "sleeping". Dedicated battery enthusiasts use CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats to try to figure out what is eating the battery all the time. Then they freeze those apps until they are needed.
3) Usage - I'm retired, so I play with my phone a lot....spend an hour a day just reading XDA. I must turn it on at least 30 times between charges. Others have to work, so they put it in their pockets and leave it alone for a while. Some folks play 3D games which consume power like crazy. Using phone data eats more power than wifi. A black background on your screen eats less than a white background... and so on.
So this is not a simple conversation. The more you tell about your situation, the more others can see if it applies to them.
(PS - I´m not talking much about my setup because I'm still on RR 1.1 with Siyah 3.0.1+. I´m trying various governors to see which works best - currently on lutzactive. I'm usually down to around 45% at bedtime which is fine with me.....If I leave the phone alone and just use it as a phone, I can probably go 24 hours.
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I totally agree with you.
I use my phone very often too. not to play games but to text, listen to music, and i leave the phone data connected always to use IM services.
I'm sure it must be same with any regular user.
I love to play around with my phone as in trying out new stuff on it
This time its the Kernels and OSs that im testing on currently checking Abyss Kernel and already noticed that the soft key lights should be turned on time to time by going to settings :\
will see how well it does in other aspects
melakamc said:
I totally agree with you.
Im use my very often too. not to play games but to text, listen to music, and i leave the phone data connected always to use IM services.
I'm sure it must be same with any regular user.
I love to play around with my phone as in trying out new stuff on it
This time its the Kernels and OSs that im testing on currently checking Abyss Kernel and already noticed that the soft key lights should be turned on time to time by going to settings :\
will see how well it does in other aspects
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Did you try Siyah with RR 1.7 before going to Abyss? What were your impressions of the usual kernels that you tried? Apparently 1.7 is working well for you?
quijote1 said:
Did you try Siyah with RR 1.7 before going to Abyss? What were your impressions of the usual kernels that you tried? Apparently 1.7 is working well for you?
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I've been using Siyah with RR 1.2 and 1.5 and battery life came upto 8-10hrs
wanted to try a different kernel and chose CM9 Remix which was in the download section of the RR thread and it was an utter disappointment for ME (others might like it)
refer to my earlier post for results.
currently im testing Abyss and will update on how it goes tonight
which one is the best?
meatlover said:
which one is the best?
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It depends on user. Im a heavy user and a need freak so CM9 Remix didnt do much good to me trying Abyss at the moment. Await for results
This is very useful and im waiting for updates
AbyssICS (2.6b)
Okay lets see how Abyss worked out for me.
After the utter dissatisfaction over CM9 Remix kernel Abyss was quite impressive with battery consumption.
there's always a BUT
1. the softykey lights were never on even though i change settings, it stays on till the phone display sleeps and even of you turn the screen on again the lights never come back :\
2. Settings -> Storage always keeps force closing and you cant see the stuff in the external SD card even by using a file explorer (root explorer)
3. I didnt like the screen which comes saying some official italian bla bla when you restart the phone that got a very bad design
soooooooo im switching to Siyah-v3.2b4 after seeing its all new cool features and i found a great article on how to get the best out of the kernel
ill share it here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
using cm kernel
got 54 hours earlier with moderate use
haven't had any issue so far been using for 4 or 5 days.
hassanal said:
using cm kernel
got 54 hours earlier with moderate use
haven't had any issue so far been using for 4 or 5 days.
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WHAT? 54hrs? NOWAY IN HELL
used any tweaks?
melakamc said:
WHAT? 54hrs? NOWAY IN HELL
used any tweaks?
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No tweaks, but the screen on time suggests that the phone has been on standby most of the time, with no Data.
I always tend to have a fantastic battery performance too when I leave the phone on standby, with no Wifi or Data use.
Regards.
buzzboy said:
No tweaks, but the screen on time suggests that the phone has been on standby most of the time, with no Data.
I always tend to have a fantastic battery performance too when I leave the phone on standby, with no Wifi or Data use.
Regards.
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That must be it, i use Data connection all the time and my screen is on most of the time
I used the stock cm9 for a while on v1.7 RR and found the battery to last quite well, decided to try siyah 3.1.2 a couple of days ago and day by day it is getting better but not sure its as good as the cm9 yet....gonna stick with it for now and see as it has more options.
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[Q] How to flash the Franco Kernel?

Hello,
I have done nothing to my Nexus 4 so far but I recently noticed that the battery isn't that good. I heard that the Franco Kernel might give more battery life. I don't play any games I just use it for texting, surfing and listening to music. Is the Franco Kernel good for my usage then or would you suggest another kernel?
I found the thread where I can download the Kernel but what is OP, Milestone and Nightlies? How do I flash this Kernel? Do I have to root? I couldn't find any HOW TOs.
Hope you guys can help!
Thanks!
easygoingx said:
Hello,
I have done nothing to my Nexus 4 so far but I recently noticed that the battery isn't that good. I heard that the Franco Kernel might give more battery life. I don't play any games I just use it for texting, surfing and listening to music. Is the Franco Kernel good for my usage then or would you suggest another kernel?
I found the thread where I can download the Kernel but what is OP, Milestone and Nightlies? How do I flash this Kernel? Do I have to root? I couldn't find any HOW TOs.
Hope you guys can help!
Thanks!
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Yes you will need to unlock your bootloader, install a custom recovery, and root. Then you download the franco kernel zip and flash it through recovery.
OP = original post
Nightly = means the latest build (they are compiled every night, and may have bugs)
Milestone = usually means a complete version (stable releases)
Milestone = stable version
Nightly = newer version may contain bugs
U first need to root your device and download the Franco kernel zip and place it in your extSdCard. Once rooted goto recovery (volume up + home + power) select install zip from external card. Browse to file select then install... And enjoy...
Make sure u know wot you doing. Read first n read alot before any action else you may brick your device.
:*: Neebi :*:
also you can buy the app and it install the flash by itself,
i guess you still need to root
since you don´t game it`s weird to have bad battery, try greenify
easygoingx said:
Hello,
I have done nothing to my Nexus 4 so far but I recently noticed that the battery isn't that good. I heard that the Franco Kernel might give more battery life. I don't play any games I just use it for texting, surfing and listening to music. Is the Franco Kernel good for my usage then or would you suggest another kernel?
I found the thread where I can download the Kernel but what is OP, Milestone and Nightlies? How do I flash this Kernel? Do I have to root? I couldn't find any HOW TOs.
Hope you guys can help!
Thanks!
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Please search first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266654
Nexus 4 Guide-Unlock Bootloader, Root, Install Custom Recoveries & Custom ROMs/Kernel
Sent from my Nexus 4
okay I see thanks!
Well I don't play games but I often use 3G Service and that usually drains A LOT of battery. I just want some more screen time when using 3g or WiFi. Does the Franco kernel change that?
easygoingx said:
okay I see thanks!
Well I don't play games but I often use 3G Service and that usually drains A LOT of battery. I just want some more screen time when using 3g or WiFi. Does the Franco kernel change that?
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Kernels don't do that.
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easygoingx said:
okay I see thanks!
Well I don't play games but I often use 3G Service and that usually drains A LOT of battery. I just want some more screen time when using 3g or WiFi. Does the Franco kernel change that?
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Your apps will make the biggest difference. Stop apps causing wake locks such as Facebook and anything with auto refreshing/push alerts.
The biggest benefit for me of using Franco is adjusting color profiles. Once you try other settings, you'll never go back to stock colors.
Sent from my iPad 4
easygoingx said:
okay I see thanks!
Well I don't play games but I often use 3G Service and that usually drains A LOT of battery. I just want some more screen time when using 3g or WiFi. Does the Franco kernel change that?
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Kernels don't change this I'm afraid, and 3G will always use pretty much battery. Wifi on the other hand uses nearly nothing.
If you say you're not a heavy user then Franco's Kernel will be a good one for ya. As it contains hotplugging (meaning it will make the device slower if it's not used but fast when you want it to be)
Slower = more battery conservation.
Also let's you underclock your device. As for example you don't play games so you don't want it at 1512Mhz, you can run it at 1ghz and the time your screen is off lock it to 384Mhz (or a bit higher) which again makes your battery last longer.
It comes to a small downside, that kernel comes with its own app which costs a bit of money. But it's very much worth it as you can tweak it just as you want.
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"unfortunatly" you need root before you can flash this. But there have been very useful links in previous posts, try those!
Then if you've done all that, look into Greenify. You'll notice a difference when using it, trust me
enjoy
Hi easygoingx! i wouldnt recommend you flash franco for now. I have been using franco for 2 months , i purchased the app and everything but lately it's comsuming a lot of battery! it drained my battery a lot with last updates i was getting crazy!
if i were you i'll flash trinity!
i've turned on my phone 30 min ago and my battery is in 98%, with franco it would be by 92%
but if you wanna flash ,first root your phone and put a custom recovery (cwm or trwp) and download the zip to your nexus 4 and flash it from custom recovery.
alvin182 said:
Hi easygoingx! i wouldnt recommend you flash franco for now. I have been using franco for 2 months , i purchased the app and everything but lately it's comsuming a lot of battery! it drained my battery a lot with last updates i was getting crazy!
if i were you i'll flash trinity!
i've turned on my phone 30 min ago and my battery is in 98%, with franco it would be by 92%
but if you wanna flash ,first root your phone and put a custom recovery (cwm or trwp) and download the zip to your nexus 4 and flash it from custom recovery.
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That's definatly not the cause of Franco, but most propably some other apps rogueing. Try Greenify.
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It's maybe the case with nightlies on particular devices.
I'm not the one to judge on that but on Milestones (Milestone 2 aka latest) there is nearly no battery consumption in idle and I've used Franco since r102 (newest is r136)
In the including pic I had flashed Milestone 2 from Franco, then afterwards changed some values in the app to my liking (aka max freq 1350, min freq 384 etc...) and then left it be for a couple hours and look at the result. Lost maybe 1% over nearly 4 hours. If I leave it on generally over night on wifi + data sync enabled, I lose about 2-3% (depending on the sync times ofc). I sleep approx 6h a night btw
Also feel free looking here and see all the positive comments of people and their battery! (also one of the most active and responsive forum topics around)
Therefore I highly recommend Franco!
Oh now I understand these terms. Thank you guys! I'm considering flashing my phone and change the color settings. I'm really annoyed by those washed out colors!
You know what really annoys me? That when I am on 3g and my screen is locked IT DRAINS my battery SO MUCH. Isn't there any ROM/Kernel that fixes that? I mean the S3 has this even on Stock and unrooted....
Hmm... Somehow my phone gets so warm lately.... I'm kinda worried.
easygoingx said:
Oh now I understand these terms. Thank you guys! I'm considering flashing my phone and change the color settings. I'm really annoyed by those washed out colors!
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They sure are.. but you can take a pick from like 30-35 presets (using Franco's preset myself). Trust me, the result is just... awesome! (if you prefer AMOLED (cause you refered to an S3, you can also change colors to that, it's in the spreadsheet here (check kernel column to see for your chosen kernel))
easygoingx said:
You know what really annoys me? That when I am on 3g and my screen is locked IT DRAINS my battery SO MUCH. Isn't there any ROM/Kernel that fixes that? I mean the S3 has this even on Stock and unrooted....
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I doubt that there is a way around the battery drain with 2G/3G/3G+ but just having a different kernel will do miracles concerning battery life. Always feel free to ask this in the thread, maybe someone has a "solution" to your issue.
I don't know how often you're without wifi. But just make a tasker task like I have:
- "if wifi connected (=state)-> Data off"
- "if not wifi connected -> Data on"
easygoingx said:
Hmm... Somehow my phone gets so warm lately.... I'm kinda worried.
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Don't worry about it too much. The nexus 4 is known for having bad thermal handling inside the phone (read this) but it won't harm your phone in any way.
If however you are still worried just download the kernel and go to "Voltages", just press-25mV a couple times (I recommend 3 or 4x). This will reduce the heat generated from your device. (Yes your device can handle this, even more but I'm not responsible )
Another thing is what is getting hot inside your device, battery or CPU? Franco Kernel Updater (app) has Device Monitor which let's you check the CPU temps. If the CPU gets warm/hot too often or too fast, just reducing the max CPU frequency can help you out (1.5Ghz is "too" much anyway, you'll be fine with a couple steps less )
Hope this helped If you have more questions that I could answer, just quote me

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