Hello,
I have done nothing to my Nexus 4 so far but I recently noticed that the battery isn't that good. I heard that the Franco Kernel might give more battery life. I don't play any games I just use it for texting, surfing and listening to music. Is the Franco Kernel good for my usage then or would you suggest another kernel?
I found the thread where I can download the Kernel but what is OP, Milestone and Nightlies? How do I flash this Kernel? Do I have to root? I couldn't find any HOW TOs.
Hope you guys can help!
Thanks!
easygoingx said:
Hello,
I have done nothing to my Nexus 4 so far but I recently noticed that the battery isn't that good. I heard that the Franco Kernel might give more battery life. I don't play any games I just use it for texting, surfing and listening to music. Is the Franco Kernel good for my usage then or would you suggest another kernel?
I found the thread where I can download the Kernel but what is OP, Milestone and Nightlies? How do I flash this Kernel? Do I have to root? I couldn't find any HOW TOs.
Hope you guys can help!
Thanks!
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Yes you will need to unlock your bootloader, install a custom recovery, and root. Then you download the franco kernel zip and flash it through recovery.
OP = original post
Nightly = means the latest build (they are compiled every night, and may have bugs)
Milestone = usually means a complete version (stable releases)
Milestone = stable version
Nightly = newer version may contain bugs
U first need to root your device and download the Franco kernel zip and place it in your extSdCard. Once rooted goto recovery (volume up + home + power) select install zip from external card. Browse to file select then install... And enjoy...
Make sure u know wot you doing. Read first n read alot before any action else you may brick your device.
:*: Neebi :*:
also you can buy the app and it install the flash by itself,
i guess you still need to root
since you don´t game it`s weird to have bad battery, try greenify
easygoingx said:
Hello,
I have done nothing to my Nexus 4 so far but I recently noticed that the battery isn't that good. I heard that the Franco Kernel might give more battery life. I don't play any games I just use it for texting, surfing and listening to music. Is the Franco Kernel good for my usage then or would you suggest another kernel?
I found the thread where I can download the Kernel but what is OP, Milestone and Nightlies? How do I flash this Kernel? Do I have to root? I couldn't find any HOW TOs.
Hope you guys can help!
Thanks!
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Please search first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266654
Nexus 4 Guide-Unlock Bootloader, Root, Install Custom Recoveries & Custom ROMs/Kernel
Sent from my Nexus 4
okay I see thanks!
Well I don't play games but I often use 3G Service and that usually drains A LOT of battery. I just want some more screen time when using 3g or WiFi. Does the Franco kernel change that?
easygoingx said:
okay I see thanks!
Well I don't play games but I often use 3G Service and that usually drains A LOT of battery. I just want some more screen time when using 3g or WiFi. Does the Franco kernel change that?
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Kernels don't do that.
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easygoingx said:
okay I see thanks!
Well I don't play games but I often use 3G Service and that usually drains A LOT of battery. I just want some more screen time when using 3g or WiFi. Does the Franco kernel change that?
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Your apps will make the biggest difference. Stop apps causing wake locks such as Facebook and anything with auto refreshing/push alerts.
The biggest benefit for me of using Franco is adjusting color profiles. Once you try other settings, you'll never go back to stock colors.
Sent from my iPad 4
easygoingx said:
okay I see thanks!
Well I don't play games but I often use 3G Service and that usually drains A LOT of battery. I just want some more screen time when using 3g or WiFi. Does the Franco kernel change that?
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Kernels don't change this I'm afraid, and 3G will always use pretty much battery. Wifi on the other hand uses nearly nothing.
If you say you're not a heavy user then Franco's Kernel will be a good one for ya. As it contains hotplugging (meaning it will make the device slower if it's not used but fast when you want it to be)
Slower = more battery conservation.
Also let's you underclock your device. As for example you don't play games so you don't want it at 1512Mhz, you can run it at 1ghz and the time your screen is off lock it to 384Mhz (or a bit higher) which again makes your battery last longer.
It comes to a small downside, that kernel comes with its own app which costs a bit of money. But it's very much worth it as you can tweak it just as you want.
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"unfortunatly" you need root before you can flash this. But there have been very useful links in previous posts, try those!
Then if you've done all that, look into Greenify. You'll notice a difference when using it, trust me
enjoy
Hi easygoingx! i wouldnt recommend you flash franco for now. I have been using franco for 2 months , i purchased the app and everything but lately it's comsuming a lot of battery! it drained my battery a lot with last updates i was getting crazy!
if i were you i'll flash trinity!
i've turned on my phone 30 min ago and my battery is in 98%, with franco it would be by 92%
but if you wanna flash ,first root your phone and put a custom recovery (cwm or trwp) and download the zip to your nexus 4 and flash it from custom recovery.
alvin182 said:
Hi easygoingx! i wouldnt recommend you flash franco for now. I have been using franco for 2 months , i purchased the app and everything but lately it's comsuming a lot of battery! it drained my battery a lot with last updates i was getting crazy!
if i were you i'll flash trinity!
i've turned on my phone 30 min ago and my battery is in 98%, with franco it would be by 92%
but if you wanna flash ,first root your phone and put a custom recovery (cwm or trwp) and download the zip to your nexus 4 and flash it from custom recovery.
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That's definatly not the cause of Franco, but most propably some other apps rogueing. Try Greenify.
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It's maybe the case with nightlies on particular devices.
I'm not the one to judge on that but on Milestones (Milestone 2 aka latest) there is nearly no battery consumption in idle and I've used Franco since r102 (newest is r136)
In the including pic I had flashed Milestone 2 from Franco, then afterwards changed some values in the app to my liking (aka max freq 1350, min freq 384 etc...) and then left it be for a couple hours and look at the result. Lost maybe 1% over nearly 4 hours. If I leave it on generally over night on wifi + data sync enabled, I lose about 2-3% (depending on the sync times ofc). I sleep approx 6h a night btw
Also feel free looking here and see all the positive comments of people and their battery! (also one of the most active and responsive forum topics around)
Therefore I highly recommend Franco!
Oh now I understand these terms. Thank you guys! I'm considering flashing my phone and change the color settings. I'm really annoyed by those washed out colors!
You know what really annoys me? That when I am on 3g and my screen is locked IT DRAINS my battery SO MUCH. Isn't there any ROM/Kernel that fixes that? I mean the S3 has this even on Stock and unrooted....
Hmm... Somehow my phone gets so warm lately.... I'm kinda worried.
easygoingx said:
Oh now I understand these terms. Thank you guys! I'm considering flashing my phone and change the color settings. I'm really annoyed by those washed out colors!
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They sure are.. but you can take a pick from like 30-35 presets (using Franco's preset myself). Trust me, the result is just... awesome! (if you prefer AMOLED (cause you refered to an S3, you can also change colors to that, it's in the spreadsheet here (check kernel column to see for your chosen kernel))
easygoingx said:
You know what really annoys me? That when I am on 3g and my screen is locked IT DRAINS my battery SO MUCH. Isn't there any ROM/Kernel that fixes that? I mean the S3 has this even on Stock and unrooted....
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I doubt that there is a way around the battery drain with 2G/3G/3G+ but just having a different kernel will do miracles concerning battery life. Always feel free to ask this in the thread, maybe someone has a "solution" to your issue.
I don't know how often you're without wifi. But just make a tasker task like I have:
- "if wifi connected (=state)-> Data off"
- "if not wifi connected -> Data on"
easygoingx said:
Hmm... Somehow my phone gets so warm lately.... I'm kinda worried.
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Don't worry about it too much. The nexus 4 is known for having bad thermal handling inside the phone (read this) but it won't harm your phone in any way.
If however you are still worried just download the kernel and go to "Voltages", just press-25mV a couple times (I recommend 3 or 4x). This will reduce the heat generated from your device. (Yes your device can handle this, even more but I'm not responsible )
Another thing is what is getting hot inside your device, battery or CPU? Franco Kernel Updater (app) has Device Monitor which let's you check the CPU temps. If the CPU gets warm/hot too often or too fast, just reducing the max CPU frequency can help you out (1.5Ghz is "too" much anyway, you'll be fine with a couple steps less )
Hope this helped If you have more questions that I could answer, just quote me
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hello everyone.
i just got the note a week ago. a friend of mine upgrade it to 2.3.6
i dont know much about room and root and kernel and all this. (noop)
the phone drains battery so fast . and i dont even use WiFi or internet or anything or Bluetooth or gaming. i just get few short calles thats it. and it last for 16 hrs ????
dont know why. here is some screen shots from everything. it might tells u what the problem are>
i hope u can recommend the best room or root or kernel for me to make the most out of my battery > or go on stock or what. idk. help me
Why don't you try hardcore's speedmod kernel, (see in in development forum) ?
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try a different kernel like franco or abyssal
so all i need is kernal?
so all i need is to change the kernel ?
witch is the best for battery
franco or abyssal
or
hardcore's speedmod kernel
and where i can download them?
and how to replace the kernel with the new one?
im sorry i know im a pain in the a$$
it just im new to this. thnx for replying and helping
مرحب أخى
Replied to your post on mobile guide forum
I use Franco Kernel for a month now and battery last to the end of the day with not too much use
I see your using GO Launcher.
I've had my note a little over a week, when I first got it I went a bit nuts and grabbed every app left right and centre. Including GO Launcher, I ended up in a similar position as you though - my battery would drain completely in around 6-8hours (of heavy usage mind you).
Last night I uninstalled all the GO features and I'm now back on the stock TWLauncher, after nearly 12hours, I still have around 60% battery with similar usage.
Many things affect how quickly the battery drains - most notably, how much you use it. But also if your in an area with weak/no signal it can potentially drain your battery as the phone constantly seeks a signal. (Had this issue with the Galaxy Ace).
Get rid of go launcher and the animated wallpaper
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
thermax04 said:
مرحب أخى
Replied to your post on mobile guide forum
I use Franco Kernel for a month now and battery last to the end of the day with not too much use
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many thnx to u brother . i just read your reply at mobile guide. thnx for the quick reply.
just instaled the franco kernel
just flashed the kernel . and im amazed by it . the battery is 29%.
in the battery usage it says 18hrs
cant wait to see how it'll be after full charge . will update u with the results
thnx for the help guys . XDA ROCKSSSSSSS
poope said:
Get rid of go launcher and the animated wallpaper
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
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i did get rid of it > hope it helps too
Try all the different kernels , they can make a huge difference and each phone is different
From the big ole Note
something strange happens today. and it has been almost a half day since i've flashed franco kernel .
and the temp went up to 102? is that normal i felt the heat up to my ear while i were on a call, it didnt happen b4. i used the WiFi for like 10 min?
. hope someone tells me whats wrong
You should'nt have to flash kernels and whatnot, my note performs best when left stock...Just be carfull.with some badly programmed apps.
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Mr_ManSHSter said:
something strange happens today. and it has been almost a half day since i've flashed franco kernel .
and the temp went up to 102? is that normal i felt the heat up to my ear while i were on a call, it didnt happen b4. i used the WiFi for like 10 min?
. hope someone tells me whats wrong
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There are two things I found that helped temperature...
1) Turn off the Note and charge it for an hour or so to get to full charge
Use it for a while and if it is still hot....
2) Reboot into Recovery mode (I use CWM) and then clear the Davlik cache
I did have temp problems and screen sleeps with Franco 10, so have gone back to Franco 6 - it was very good on my phone. As you will read, every phone seems to be unique - some kernels are great on one phone and not so good on others.... Just make sure to take a good backup and test it before trying anything new.
Another tip for improved performance...
Disable wi-fi when you don't need it and wi-fi sharing (I use Titanium Backup but there are others out there) - I found this made a big difference - maybe 5-10%.
Good luck.
TempusFudgeIt said:
There are two things I found that helped temperature...
1) Turn off the Note and charge it for an hour or so to get to full charge
Use it for a while and if it is still hot....
2) Reboot into Recovery mode (I use CWM) and then clear the Davlik cache
I did have temp problems and screen sleeps with Franco 10, so have gone back to Franco 6 - it was very good on my phone. As you will read, every phone seems to be unique - some kernels are great on one phone and not so good on others.... Just make sure to take a good backup and test it before trying anything new.
Another tip for improved performance...
Disable wi-fi when you don't need it and wi-fi sharing (I use Titanium Backup but there are others out there) - I found this made a big difference - maybe 5-10%.
Good luck.
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thnx for your help. and the quick reply. im on franco 9 right now.
the problem is idk how to backup my data and programs . the point is im new to android . i did flash it with a friend's help. it was easy tho. but still.
would u recommend me good app to backup my programs b4 i flash it.
cuz i've read i need to do the wipe and clear Davlik cache. i didnt do that. cuz the friend who helped me didnt tell me too. so i just flashed >
what u recommend me 2 do?
Mr_ManSHSter said:
thnx for your help. and the quick reply. im on franco 9 right now.
the problem is idk how to backup my data and programs . the point is im new to android . i did flash it with a friend's help. it was easy tho. but still.
would u recommend me good app to backup my programs b4 i flash it.
cuz i've read i need to do the wipe and clear Davlik cache. i didnt do that. cuz the friend who helped me didnt tell me too. so i just flashed >
what u recommend me 2 do?
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There are a number of ways of doing it... personally i use two...
1) ClockWorkMod backup
2) Titanium backup
The first one is a great way to get a total backup of everything if you need to get back to previous setup, the second is the same but also great for backing up individual apps and better... freeezing them so they dont run!
try using the kernel abyssnote 4.2, I was using the Franco thought it was going like the battery in stock, with an abyss felt great savings
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362424&highlight=abyssnote+kernel+4+2
AbyssNote kernel 4.2 Final CW Touch Original Logo:
http://www.mediafire.com/?c65mndvpk6ocbaa
Changelog v4.2 Final:
Changed Camera frequency to 800 Mhz for battery save
Changed Touch frequency to 800 Mhz for battery save
Changed OTG frequency to 800 MHz for battery save
Lower automatic brightness
Sd Card mount fix (workers finally…)
Mr_ManSHSter said:
thnx for your help. and the quick reply. im on franco 9 right now.
the problem is idk how to backup my data and programs . the point is im new to android . i did flash it with a friend's help. it was easy tho. but still.
would u recommend me good app to backup my programs b4 i flash it.
cuz i've read i need to do the wipe and clear Davlik cache. i didnt do that. cuz the friend who helped me didnt tell me too. so i just flashed >
what u recommend me 2 do?
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hi,(i tried PM reply 2 u,but not sure its goin.so this post)
i saw ur screenshots.
as u r on a custom rom,i cant compare my Note 2 urs.
I am on foll stock rom (screenshot attached)
u can try going back to stock rom(download from dr ketans thread)
run the note as stock for 48 hrs n see how battery lasts.
if there is huge battery drain then also,show it to samsung.
if not,install apps one by one,keeping few hours in between.u can easily detect battery drain of some app like that.
personally i use go-launcher n find it to be very less battery consuming.
yesterday i've installed an antivirus and is watching out for battery drain now.
hope this helps...
Hey this is a thread for all the Resurrection lovers out there to discuss what Kernel goes best with Resurrection ROM
I've tried several Kernels by myself but couldn't come to a conclusion which is better in which aspects.
So lets discuss openly the pros and cons of each Kernel
If you have tried any other kernel other than CM9 and Siyah please put your opinions as well.
Nice post! I'd be interested to see the results from ppl as I just updated to latest 1.7 remix and this time have left the CM9 kernal. I did think about flashing siyah straight after 1.7 package but decided to give CM9 a trial first
Will report in a few days!
deckio007 said:
Nice post! I'd be interested to see the results from ppl as I just updated to latest 1.7 remix and this time have left the CM9 kernal. I did think about flashing siyah straight after 1.7 package but decided to give CM9 a trial first
Will report in a few days!
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I'm a Siyah fan too but after reading few reviews considered to give a try with CM9 will see how it goes
I'm currently using the stock CM9 with 1.7 and found it to feel pretty good so far, messed up a little yesterday when the phone froze while playing a video.
Before freezing the phone had 50% battery after removing the battery and restarting, the battery had dropped to 15%
I'm still a bit of a noob to all this so go easy
When flashing a new kernel, do I just put the zip on the card and flash?
Or do I need to wipe anything first?
This is my personal opinion, not trying to put anyone down.
Okay tried CM9 Remix kernel for few hours and already fedup :\
I see no better battery life compared to Siyah kernel, in fact CM9 Remix Kernel had lesser support than Siyah.
Lets see;
Siyah -
CWM touch recovery (and full support)
additional cpu governors (lulzactive,smartassV2,etc..)
Overclocking upto 1.6
support for BLN(Back light notifications)
CM9 Remix -
NO CWM touch recover and some of the CWM features are not available
NO additional CPU governors
NO overclocking
NO support for BLN
So for me CM9 Remix kernel isn't the one.
as i have tried Siyah kernel already im going to give Abyss or some other Kernel a try and will update on how it goes
This is a really difficult conversation because there are so many variables.
1) Kernels - each one has configurations so you need to mention what governor you are using and any other mods that you have done to the basic kernal config. Or if you are using it stock without changes you could state that.
2) Apps - all of us have different apps installed and some apps make demands on the system when it is supposed to be "sleeping". Dedicated battery enthusiasts use CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats to try to figure out what is eating the battery all the time. Then they freeze those apps until they are needed.
3) Usage - I'm retired, so I play with my phone a lot....spend an hour a day just reading XDA. I must turn it on at least 30 times between charges. Others have to work, so they put it in their pockets and leave it alone for a while. Some folks play 3D games which consume power like crazy. Using phone data eats more power than wifi. A black background on your screen eats less than a white background... and so on.
So this is not a simple conversation. The more you tell about your situation, the more others can see if it applies to them.
(PS - I´m not talking much about my setup because I'm still on RR 1.1 with Siyah 3.0.1+. I´m trying various governors to see which works best - currently on lutzactive. I'm usually down to around 45% at bedtime which is fine with me.....If I leave the phone alone and just use it as a phone, I can probably go 24 hours.
Siyah: Feature packed, lots of fluff, but very nice options as mentionned earlier.
CM9: Basic, VERY BASIC kernel. Gets the job done and most people sync their base with it.
I personally use CM9 with Siyah, works great.
karendar said:
Siyah: Feature packed, lots of fluff, but very nice options as mentionned earlier.
CM9: Basic, VERY BASIC kernel. Gets the job done and most people sync their base with it.
I personally use CM9 with Siyah, works great.
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Yeaaa, I agree with You
Siyah Kernel works great with My S2
quijote1 said:
This is a really difficult conversation because there are so many variables.
1) Kernels - each one has configurations so you need to mention what governor you are using and any other mods that you have done to the basic kernal config. Or if you are using it stock without changes you could state that.
2) Apps - all of us have different apps installed and some apps make demands on the system when it is supposed to be "sleeping". Dedicated battery enthusiasts use CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats to try to figure out what is eating the battery all the time. Then they freeze those apps until they are needed.
3) Usage - I'm retired, so I play with my phone a lot....spend an hour a day just reading XDA. I must turn it on at least 30 times between charges. Others have to work, so they put it in their pockets and leave it alone for a while. Some folks play 3D games which consume power like crazy. Using phone data eats more power than wifi. A black background on your screen eats less than a white background... and so on.
So this is not a simple conversation. The more you tell about your situation, the more others can see if it applies to them.
(PS - I´m not talking much about my setup because I'm still on RR 1.1 with Siyah 3.0.1+. I´m trying various governors to see which works best - currently on lutzactive. I'm usually down to around 45% at bedtime which is fine with me.....If I leave the phone alone and just use it as a phone, I can probably go 24 hours.
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I totally agree with you.
I use my phone very often too. not to play games but to text, listen to music, and i leave the phone data connected always to use IM services.
I'm sure it must be same with any regular user.
I love to play around with my phone as in trying out new stuff on it
This time its the Kernels and OSs that im testing on currently checking Abyss Kernel and already noticed that the soft key lights should be turned on time to time by going to settings :\
will see how well it does in other aspects
melakamc said:
I totally agree with you.
Im use my very often too. not to play games but to text, listen to music, and i leave the phone data connected always to use IM services.
I'm sure it must be same with any regular user.
I love to play around with my phone as in trying out new stuff on it
This time its the Kernels and OSs that im testing on currently checking Abyss Kernel and already noticed that the soft key lights should be turned on time to time by going to settings :\
will see how well it does in other aspects
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Did you try Siyah with RR 1.7 before going to Abyss? What were your impressions of the usual kernels that you tried? Apparently 1.7 is working well for you?
quijote1 said:
Did you try Siyah with RR 1.7 before going to Abyss? What were your impressions of the usual kernels that you tried? Apparently 1.7 is working well for you?
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I've been using Siyah with RR 1.2 and 1.5 and battery life came upto 8-10hrs
wanted to try a different kernel and chose CM9 Remix which was in the download section of the RR thread and it was an utter disappointment for ME (others might like it)
refer to my earlier post for results.
currently im testing Abyss and will update on how it goes tonight
which one is the best?
meatlover said:
which one is the best?
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It depends on user. Im a heavy user and a need freak so CM9 Remix didnt do much good to me trying Abyss at the moment. Await for results
This is very useful and im waiting for updates
AbyssICS (2.6b)
Okay lets see how Abyss worked out for me.
After the utter dissatisfaction over CM9 Remix kernel Abyss was quite impressive with battery consumption.
there's always a BUT
1. the softykey lights were never on even though i change settings, it stays on till the phone display sleeps and even of you turn the screen on again the lights never come back :\
2. Settings -> Storage always keeps force closing and you cant see the stuff in the external SD card even by using a file explorer (root explorer)
3. I didnt like the screen which comes saying some official italian bla bla when you restart the phone that got a very bad design
soooooooo im switching to Siyah-v3.2b4 after seeing its all new cool features and i found a great article on how to get the best out of the kernel
ill share it here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
using cm kernel
got 54 hours earlier with moderate use
haven't had any issue so far been using for 4 or 5 days.
hassanal said:
using cm kernel
got 54 hours earlier with moderate use
haven't had any issue so far been using for 4 or 5 days.
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WHAT? 54hrs? NOWAY IN HELL
used any tweaks?
melakamc said:
WHAT? 54hrs? NOWAY IN HELL
used any tweaks?
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No tweaks, but the screen on time suggests that the phone has been on standby most of the time, with no Data.
I always tend to have a fantastic battery performance too when I leave the phone on standby, with no Wifi or Data use.
Regards.
buzzboy said:
No tweaks, but the screen on time suggests that the phone has been on standby most of the time, with no Data.
I always tend to have a fantastic battery performance too when I leave the phone on standby, with no Wifi or Data use.
Regards.
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That must be it, i use Data connection all the time and my screen is on most of the time
I used the stock cm9 for a while on v1.7 RR and found the battery to last quite well, decided to try siyah 3.1.2 a couple of days ago and day by day it is getting better but not sure its as good as the cm9 yet....gonna stick with it for now and see as it has more options.
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So I have had my Nexus 4 for 7 exact days, was suffering from a terrible battery life of 1:30 hrs MAX screen-on. Until I flashed CM10.1+Franco's latest kernel and my phone has a 3:30 hrs of screen time on ! - I tried AOKP with Faux and some other rom combinations...Any one can explain why?
And clearly the battery life on WIFI surpasses the one on 3g.
It probably has a lot to do with the "msm_hsic_host" kernel wakelock that is present on the stock kernel. Flashing to either franco or faux kernel is supposed to be a great way to fix it and increase battery life
Because Franco Kernel is like magic?
Edit: oh hey! you're the same guy from yesterday I suggested Franco Kernel to and pm'd me for additional tips
Ensifolk said:
So I have had my Nexus 4 for 7 exact days, was suffering from a terrible battery life of 1:30 hrs MAX screen-on. Until I flashed CM10.1+Franco's latest kernel and my phone has a 3:30 hrs of screen time on ! - I tried AOKP with Faux and some other rom combinations...Any one can explain why?
And clearly the battery life on WIFI surpasses the one on 3g.
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1:30 screen time Max? Damn.... Do you use your phone as a satellite? And WiFi IS ALWAYS better on the battery than 3g, that goes for any phones.
Sent from my Mako Nexus quattro using Tapatalk 2!
barondebxl said:
1:30 screen time Max? Damn.... Do you use your phone as a satellite? And WiFi IS ALWAYS better on the battery than 3g, that goes for any phones.
Sent from my Mako Nexus quattro using Tapatalk 2!
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Wasn't even using my phone for anything but Browsing/Facebook/Whatsapp! LOL - And thanks guys for the reply, and yes Im the guy who pmd you man! Thanks a lot! Will give Faux a go right now And check how things will work....
Ensifolk said:
Wasn't even using my phone for anything but Browsing/Facebook/Whatsapp! LOL - And thanks guys for the reply, and yes Im the guy who pmd you man! Thanks a lot! Will give Faux a go right now And check how things will work....
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I suggest using https://play.google.com/store/apps/...yLDEsImNvbS5iaWdleWVzMHgwLnRyaWNrc3Rlcm1vZCJd with those kernels. I use Franco's paid app but Trickster is a good free alternative!
zephiK said:
I suggest using https://play.google.com/store/apps/...yLDEsImNvbS5iaWdleWVzMHgwLnRyaWNrc3Rlcm1vZCJd with those kernels. I use Franco's paid app but Trickster is a good free alternative!
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Thanks for the suggestion. Tinkering with phone settings is not in my priority list, but knowing what the kernel is doing with my phone is definitely useful if I decide to tinker later.
And free phone state knowledge is priceless (as in it has no list price :cyclops
KyraOfFire said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Tinkering with phone settings is not in my priority list, but knowing what the kernel is doing with my phone is definitely useful if I decide to tinker later.
And free phone state knowledge is priceless (as in it has no list price :cyclops
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Not sure if it has the ability to disable logging and events (i think it does). You can disable those two features for better battery life (very insignificant but every bit helps, right?) and you can disable fsync if you choose to (more IO speed, less stability mainly if your phone was to randomly reboot).
Plus the free color changing is always nice to have.
3 to 4 hours with screen on is normal battery life for a stock Nexus 4.
It sounds like you were running something that was draining the battery.
When you updated the phone, the new ROM turned off the culprit.
The battery drain is not necessarily caused by an app, it could be one
of the Google services or bad reception. Even changing the phone's default
settings can result in much better battery life.
This might be a stupid question, but could switching from stock kernel/ROM fix my antenna radio reception bull**** issues?
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Hey. So I wanted to buy the nexus 4 , and then I've heard that the battery life is suck.
I found out that it could be fixed by installing a custom kernel.
I'd like to apply a cusom kernel
that saves -Alot- of battery , doesnt change anyting specific but the battery usage.
and to still stay with the Original Rom.
Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Hey. So I wanted to buy the nexus 4 , and then I've heard that the battery life is suck.
I found out that it could be fixed by installing a custom kernel.
I'd like to apply a cusom kernel
that saves -Alot- of battery , doesnt change anyting specific but the battery usage.
and to still stay with the Original Rom.
Any suggestions? Thanks.
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try them all out, they are all good. the thing is, all our devices react differently, and all our usages vary with as many users as there are. so the only way that you would find YOUR perfect kernel that YOUR device likes the best is to try them all out. it takes seconds to flash, so time isnt an issue. try one every few days, youll find the one thats for you.
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try them all out, they are all good. the thing is, all our devices react differently, and all our usages vary with as many users as there are. so the only way that you would find YOUR perfect kernel that YOUR device likes the best is to try them all out. it takes seconds to flash, so time isnt an issue. try one every few days, youll find the one thats for you.
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OK... but all the kernel changes something in the rom. I would like to keep my rom exactly the way it is , exept from the battery usage.
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OK... but all the kernel changes something in the rom. I would like to keep my rom exactly the way it is , exept from the battery usage.
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You can flash any kernel you want, and the ROM will stay the same. The kernel operates "under the hood" (the engine), while the ROM is what you see (rest of the car, to use that analogy). You can use an app called Trickster Mod to tweak kernel settings. Be sure to know what you're doing though, and keep a backup just in case.
Also, be sure if you flash faux or trinity kernel (that I know of), that you flash on top of a stock kernel/reset kernel. If you flash any of those on top of another custom kernel, you could get in trouble (because of the way the kernels are installed).
And the stock kernel is really not as bad as people make it out to be.
Sure custom will usually be better. But stock is not that bad. All those reports of horrid battery life I really don't know what the heck they are doing to be honest.
I used it for a while. And the other nexus 4 in the house is bone stock. It gets off the charger at 530am and needs to be charged around 4pm with around 4 hrs of screen time and 45 mins or so of candy crush.
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You can flash any kernel you want, and the ROM will stay the same. The kernel operates "under the hood" (the engine), while the ROM is what you see (rest of the car, to use that analogy). You can use an app called Trickster Mod to tweak kernel settings. Be sure to know what you're doing though, and keep a backup just in case.
Also, be sure if you flash faux or trinity kernel (that I know of), that you flash on top of a stock kernel/reset kernel. If you flash any of those on top of another custom kernel, you could get in trouble (because of the way the kernels are installed).
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And the stock kernel is really not as bad as people make it out to be.
Sure custom will usually be better. But stock is not that bad. All those reports of horrid battery life I really don't know what the heck they are doing to be honest.
I used it for a while. And the other nexus 4 in the house is bone stock. It gets off the charger at 530am and needs to be charged around 4pm with around 4 hrs of screen time and 45 mins or so of candy crush.
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Now that the battery life is improved on 4.3 JB version , I wont be needed to a custom kernel. Thanks alot.
Currently running PA 3.99 RC1. Used Franco kernel Linaro first, used the regular Franco Kernel today for a bit.
When I flashed PA first, I used the normal .84 radio of course. As I've seen that many had a problem with this radio with an MVNO (I use Mobile Vikings in the Netherlands, which is an MVNO from KPN), it would drain battery life immensely.
So I flashed the .48 radio (the android 4.2.2 one) back since yesterday. Didn't help so it seems.
I've had one train trip of an hour draining the battery from 80% to 20%. I had to recharge the phone in college with my external battery (which was only 2h long), up to 50% again, only to use it back in the train where I had to hook it up again to the external battery.
Wakelocks are PowerManagerService.Wakelocks (30%) and msim_hsic_host (for 11.8%)(<- although I have seen this on top at 20% too).
It's obviously only when connecting to new 3G poles, but come on. I can't use a new nexus 4 like this if it drains from 80 to 20% in one hour on the train. My old Galaxy S I9000 only spent a small 20% on that trip, and that phone was 2,5y old! (and a 1500 mhz battery).
What do I need to do to get my new phone to an acceptable level? What radio, kernel,...? Do I need to do a full factory reset for it to work? (I did wiped cache and dalvik cache in between the flashing above though)....
(Also, the phone gets really hot at times, I'm almost burning my finger! System monitor reports a max of 54C, but Franko Updater app status gives 70C. Don't know what to believe. I guess this is in line with the problems above though).
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Currently running PA 3.99 RC1. Used Franco kernel Linaro first, used the regular Franco Kernel today for a bit.
When I flashed PA first, I used the normal .84 radio of course. As I've seen that many had a problem with this radio with an MVNO (I use Mobile Vikings in the Netherlands, which is an MVNO from KPN), it would drain battery life immensely.
So I flashed the .48 radio (the android 4.2.2 one) back since yesterday. Didn't help so it seems.
I've had one train trip of an hour draining the battery from 80% to 20%. I had to recharge the phone in college with my external battery (which was only 2h long), up to 50% again, only to use it back in the train where I had to hook it up again to the external battery.
Wakelocks are PowerManagerService.Wakelocks (30%) and msim_hsic_host (for 11.8%)(<- although I have seen this on top at 20% too).
It's obviously only when connecting to new 3G poles, but come on. I can't use a new nexus 4 like this if it drains from 80 to 20% in one hour on the train. My old Galaxy S I9000 only spent a small 20% on that trip, and that phone was 2,5y old! (and a 1500 mhz battery).
What do I need to do to get my new phone to an acceptable level? What radio, kernel,...? Do I need to do a full factory reset for it to work? (I did wiped cache and dalvik cache in between the flashing above though)....
(Also, the phone gets really hot at times, I'm almost burning my finger! System monitor reports a max of 54C, but Franko Updater app status gives 70C. Don't know what to believe. I guess this is in line with the problems above though).
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try a different kernel. ive heard/read many reports of franco kernel not being very battery friendly as of recently http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449982
Depending on how long you have the phone you probably want to replace the battery with a new one (although its probably hard to find a reliable battery that isn't used or fake capacity.)
My settings:
-Neo kernel: CPU 192MHz-1350MHz ondemand. GPU 320MHz ondemand.
-Manually disable data/wifi/gps/syncing and use lower brightness whenever I can.
-Use Greenify app to disable apps from autostarting.
Otherwise no other fancy stuff. I can get up to 4hours of screen on time.
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try a different kernel. ive heard/read many reports of franco kernel not being very battery friendly as of recently http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449982
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Thanks for the link, will try Trinity TF4H then as that seem to be the best from the test, and features color correction like franco's (I like a little bit of saturation)
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Depending on how long you have the phone you probably want to replace the battery with a new one (although its probably hard to find a reliable battery that isn't used or fake capacity.)
My settings:
-Neo kernel: CPU 192MHz-1350MHz ondemand. GPU 320MHz ondemand.
-Manually disable data/wifi/gps/syncing and use lower brightness whenever I can.
-Use Greenify app to disable apps from autostarting.
Otherwise no other fancy stuff. I can get up to 4hours of screen on time.
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As I see in the benchmark topic they are going to test Neo, I'll wait that out first. As from the OP; it's a new phone. Have it just since this month, got it in the sales lately. Screen backlight was off during the entire day, and I do use greenify.
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Thanks for the link, will try Trinity TF4H then ase seem to be the best from the test, and features color correction like franco's (I like a little bit of saturation)
As I see in the benchmark topic they are going to test Neo, I'll wait that out first. As from the OP; it's a new phone. Have it just since this month, got it in the sales lately. Screen backlight was off during the entire day, and I do use greenify.
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trinity doesnt feature color correction like francos, it doesn't include gamma editing. you can edit the red/green/blue however. there is a newer release of trinity though, if you want that one instead, tf5zeta http://goo.gl/wxnAfy
when flashing trinity, dont wipe anything, not dalvik, not cache. just flash it
I would say flash hells-core b38. You can also change color presets with trickstermod from playstore.
I use purity rom with hells kernel and got amazing sot times. Mostly between 4 a 5 hours.
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I would say flash hells-core b38. You can also change color presets with trickstermod from playstore.
I use purity rom with hells kernel and got amazing sot times. Mostly between 4 a 5 hours.
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+:good:
Unjustable said:
I would say flash hells-core b38. You can also change color presets with trickstermod from playstore.
I use purity rom with hells kernel and got amazing sot times. Mostly between 4 a 5 hours.
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How do u custom your kernel setting, or it's come with the kernel already? I used it once back in b37 but only got 2-3 hours SOT from full charge drain out to around 30% batt
As for updates on this topic:
Currently running PA with Trinity. As for real test goes in the wild, we'll have to wait till monday at least , but so far looking incredibly promising. 3H screen on time when playing ingress, so continuous GPS location on, GPU working, changing network poles, internet, and I don't have LTE so everything over 3G/HDSPA and screen is only responsible for 33% used. Patch is necessary for running JSS kernels on JWR roms.
Trinity kernel topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083904
The patch: https://drive.google.com/?usp=folder&authuser=0#folders/0B_2NNDoNW6ejTWhKR0ZUZUZrNHM
1. Flash PA first, and PA gapps. Let it boot.
2. Back in recovery, flash the kernel
3. flash the patch for JSS kernels on JWR roms.
Don't wipe anything in between in terms of cache or dalvik cache. (it's an anykernel kernel).
Only real downside is still the saturation. EDIT: added in TF11
I also have the problem my GPS couldn't find a fix. Installing GPS status and toolbox along seems to bring the fix time down to a minute.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2