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(Q) wich lagfix we can use?

now i m confused.. wich lagfix is better? in quadrant all the fix do then the 2000...

Your choice. Do you want to repartition the sd card and fiddle in cmd, or just double click a file?
The problem with the first fix is that you cant replace the card any time you want. The problem with the second fix is that if you dont have 1gb free on the phone, it wont work

Second one looks like a much better deal.
If you don't have 500mb free on your internal SC card (correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's 1gb), you can always move all your personal stuff in the external SD card.
Unless of course you have filled it up with apps only (with no app2sd with Eclair), but how you would have managed to fill almost 2gb of apps is beyond me. That'd be more than 2000 apps.
What I don't know though is the long term effects. I have no idea if the fixes that are made are bad for the internal SD card. I guess you have to trust Ryan.

Davith said:
Second one looks like a much better deal.
If you don't have 500mb free on your internal SC card (correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's 1gb), you can always move all your personal stuff in the external SD card.
Unless of course you have filled it up with apps only (with no app2sd with Eclair), but how you would have managed to fill almost 2gb of apps is beyond me. That'd be more than 2000 apps.
What I don't know though is the long term effects. I have no idea if the fixes that are made are bad for the internal SD card. I guess you have to trust Ryan.
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what do you mean about second choise lagfix 2.0??

2.0 caused my phone to be unstable so I re-flashed and went back to the first (1GB) fix.

Are you considering mimocam's fix (using the external card) or just between Ryan and Chanfire's fixes?

rock187 said:
what do you mean about second choise lagfix 2.0??
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Yeah, I was talking about Ryan's Lagfix 2.3. (it's not 2.0 anymore).

I don't use either. I recommend the original fix that moves data to dbdata. I have over 70 apps installed and still plenty of space left. Using autokiller to keep free memory at 70 meg I have no lag. Currently on jm5.
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I first did it by command line with the 1Gb partition. That ran well. I then updated to Ryans 2.2 which I have been using all day. It also runs really well. Lag pretty much gone.

If i apply the one-click-LagFix it makes an virtual ext2 partition to my internal sd-card. So if i choose sometime later to undo the fix how can i delete the ext2 partition in my internal sd-card? Will it be necessary to use gparted or similar?

Bajo76 said:
If i apply the one-click-LagFix it makes an virtual ext2 partition to my internal sd-card. So if i choose sometime later to undo the fix how can i delete the ext2 partition in my internal sd-card? Will it be necessary to use gparted or similar?
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Just run the included unlagfixme.bat file. It's automated. But make sure you are running the unlagfixme for the correct version (2-2 or 2-3)
It works fine. I ran unlagfixme and flashed back to a stock ROM, tested with Quadrant and got the 900 something score again, so it does remove the lagfix.
I will note, however, that it's a very good idea to run the unlagfixme.bat before flashing to a different ROM.

kgk888 said:
Just run the included unlagfixme.bat file. It's automated. But make sure you are running the unlagfixme for the correct version (2-2 or 2-3)
It works fine. I ran unlagfixme and flashed back to a stock ROM, tested with Quadrant and got the 900 something score again, so it does remove the lagfix.
I will note, however, that it's a very good idea to run the unlagfixme.bat before flashing to a different ROM.
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If you are flashing to any rom using odin3, there is no need to do the unlagfix at all, because the flashing would have overwritten any changes that you have made to the file system.

I often flashed my device alredy with repartition but it didnt touched my internal sd, cause my photos which are stored in the internal sd were still there after flashing. So will a firmware-flash through odin really delete the virtual ext2 partition?

Bajo76 said:
If i apply the one-click-LagFix it makes an virtual ext2 partition to my internal sd-card. So if i choose sometime later to undo the fix how can i delete the ext2 partition in my internal sd-card? Will it be necessary to use gparted or similar?
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The LagFix does not partition your internal card. A 1gb file is created upon which the ext2 filesystem is made. Then this file is mounted as a loopback device. So the UnLagFix basically moves the data back to the native internal storage directories and deletes the ext2 file, so no need to use gparted

[Q] NAND + 512 LEO + DesireHD + Data on Ext3/4

Hey all, I'm having a bit of a dilemma and hoping some of you can help me
So - with the introduction of NAND, we are finally able to run Android similar to a native device. Great!
I've dabbled with a large number of ROM's now and settled(ish) on a basic Desire ROM which I have to say, runs absolutely perfectly.
However, I'm missing some of the features from the DesireHD SD card days and I see there are various builds. I tried a squashedfs build and found that it was far more laggy than the unsquashed Desire build I use now.
I've just noticed that there are number of newer builds using an EXT partition on the SD card to store the apps while the ROM itself sits in the NAND.
But is it worth it is my question? Running all the apps off an SD card, surely is akin to just running the whole system from SD? Also, what's the difference between EXT3 and EXT4? I've seen a ROM which advise to use EXT3 while the other suggests 4.
Finally, if the apps run from a partition, does that mean USB Mass Storage connection is out of the question?
Phew. Thanks

NAND is suppose to have a faster read, than write when compared to SD.
NAND and SD has about 100,000 P/E cycles. SD is cheaper to replace than phone, but by the time you get to that many write cycles, your phone is an antique.
You can still use SD card when in USB Mass Storage mode. You will only see the FAT32 partition in Windows. Unless you use a 3rd party program for usb mass storage mode.
ext4
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There isn't that much difference in ext4 and ext3, especially on a phone. ext2 is probably faster than ext3, but it doesn't have journaling, so, the data is more likely to corrupt when device is not properly turned off.

LiFE1688 said:
There isn't that much difference in ext4 and ext3, especially on a phone. ext2 is probably faster than ext3, but it doesn't have journaling, so, the data is more likely to corrupt when device is not properly turned off.
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So in fact, if I use a DesireHD CWK Rom with the Apps stuck in EXT4 lets say, it won't be a massively notable difference to say just a Desire CWK Rom on NAND because the OS is still on NAND and it's just the apps that aren't. Furthermore, once they are in the RAM, it makes little difference anyway, right?

There is a difference in ext4 and ext3. Not all kernels support ext4 is probably the biggest. ext4 doesn't cause files fragmentation as much as ext3. Unfortunately, none of us used ext3/4 partitions in SD card long enough to notice the speed lost when files are fragmented in the ext3/4 partition.
So if you are going to use Desire build, check to see if the kernel supports ext4 in the first place. So far, I have seen MDJ's 10 Kernels supporting ext4, other than that, I don't remember seeing another.

Great, I'll see what happens! Thanks

Clockwork Question

So I'm thinking of finally installing CWR on my phone but my question is - how do I partition my SD card for ROM's that use Apps2SD/Data2SD? Also, I see that different ROM's use different size CWR's, how do I change that? Probably noob questions.

haven't done it myself, but to partition read the FAQ about partition in hyperdroid:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899
for the different roms with different CWM, simply usb flash -> flash required CWM and you are ready to go.
cheers.

Skellyyy said:
So I'm thinking of finally installing CWR on my phone but my question is - how do I partition my SD card for ROM's that use Apps2SD/Data2SD? Also, I see that different ROM's use different size CWR's, how do I change that? Probably noob questions.
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[HOW-TO] Make Ext4 from Recovery Without Losing FAT32 Data
I wrote a guide just for such occasions. =] Good luck.

Its actually really simple, it just looks confusing. CWM has 3 partition sizes for your phone memory, 150 250 and 400. These are the sizes your ROM can be with the respective types of CWM. I use 250. Now to partition your sd card its extremely simple. (NOTE: This is for windows only) Download Minitool partition wizard, load it up with your sdcard connected to your computer, now you should see the sdcard will be one partition formatted as FAT32. Now, if you right click on that and select move/resize then drag it to how big you want your A2SD partition to be. (THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT Drag it from the right so that the grey box is on the right of the FAT32 section. Dont make it larger than 1024 MB, however mine is 512MB and it is more than enough) Right, so now right click on the unallocated part of your sdcard and select create. Make it primary, not logical. The file type should be either EXT2,3 or 4. (I use 3 as it seems to be the most compatible) and there you go, done

partition sd card?

Hi all, I've noticed lately that most of the new roms coming out require you to partition your sd card. a couple of questions;
Why?
is it perminent?
wich partition to add new files too?
can i still use stock sd card?
how big to make partition?
Thanks in advance

dca1970 said:
Hi all, I've noticed lately that most of the new roms coming out require you to partition your sd card. a couple of questions;
Why?
is it perminent?
wich partition to add new files too?
can i still use stock sd card?
how big to make partition?
Thanks in advance
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Memory size on the phone is not adequate to handle the size of certain ROMs.
No its not permanent
Ext3 for apps
Yes
As big as you want, 2gigs is what's recommended and 32 mb swap

phatmanxxl said:
Memory size on the phone is not adequate to handle the size of certain ROMs.
No its not permanent
Ext3 for apps
Yes
As big as you want, 2gigs is what's recommended and 32 mb swap
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Thanks! .

Upgrading from ext2-ext3
On a side note, I have been attempting to partition my SDcard with the 2G on my 16G C6 card. When I use AR1.8 everything goes quickly, but it will not upgrade from ext2-ext3 and says to use adb to do this (adb does not see the partition)...partition seems to be made when checking the card. On AR2.3 the partitioning goes on forever and have to do a battery pull to get it to stop. When I check the size with this version it also seems to have done the partition even with the endless process stated earlier. It however gives me the message 'opps, something went wrong' when trying to upgrade from ext2-3.
When checking from either method in TB, it shows an ap2sd partition of around 400mb and have yet to actually upgrade to ext3 from either recovery version.
Any ideas?

Use RA recovery to partition, it makes it simple.

What ROMs require this?
I guess I've been in the AOSP world for too long...

Just the virus gingersense and the virus kingdom that I know of. The virus kindom does not require it but you wont be left if much room for apps.

phatmanxxl said:
Just the virus gingersense and the virus kingdom that I know of. The virus kindom does not require it but you wont be left if much room for apps.
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Why not just http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855424 ?
Better performance on NAND than SD-EXT.

phatmanxxl said:
Use RA recovery to partition, it makes it simple.
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Sorry, AR was my intention of RA. Have used both the initial version 1.8 (my first anyway) and 2.3 with no success.
Have been attempting to do it within ADB and keep getting this message when attempting to make the ext2 partition:
Input/Output error during write on /dev/block/mmcblk0
This is the process I'm using:
within adb shell
# parted /dev/block/mmcblk0
(parted) mkpartfs primary fat32 0 13991
(parted) mkpartfs primary ext2 13991 16039
this is where I get the error mentioned above and can not continue to the swap.
(parted) mkpartfs primary linux-swap 16039 16071
HOWEVER....
If I use mkpart primary ext2 13991 16039 it takes, but does not show that it is an ext2 in the files system under the partition information.
Does this even make sense..lol
EDIT:
Never mind..erased my edit until I really screw up my card...now it won't mount...back to the drawing board
Gave up after reading about Transcend cards and just partitioned to the single 16G. Going to get a different card/mfg and give it a go. At least I learned a bit more about ADB today...so not a total loss.

OK..after looking through many options, may have my issue as to why RA won't perform the partition and I can't do it through ADB.....MY CARD. Apparantly there have been issues with Transcend and making an ext partition. Guess it's time to go C10 and get a new one.
Anyway...found this thread and thought it might help?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714

Got a new C10 card today from a different mfg and that fixed the problem!

I use gpart on ny ubuntu OS. It is NVIDIA to keep a Linux OS around guys. I can do the wholebpartitioning without erasing any files or data. soo I'm good to go. Also its fast as well.
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[Q] Not enough internal storage

Like everyone here, I have the famous HTC Leo. A friend installed Android on NAND, the 2.3.4 with the mod-HyperDroid CM7-v2.1.0.
This is a great device, but the more I use it, the more I have less internal memory.
At first, I installed a lot of applications, I was full of things and I ended up filling the internal memory. I moved the more applications possible on the SD card, but the internal memory ended up being full. So I uninstalled applications not too useful, and applications more useful, clean caches, remove data, but it is still too small. My system tells me that I only have 217.3 Mb total internal memory and while I hardly more than application system installed, I only have 21.3 MB available. Now, I know that this model has double.
I do not understand: what is this devilry? Where is my memory? How can I resume normal operation until all the memory is gone and my phone becomes unusable?
I can't be the only one to whom it happens, right?

only the data partition counts as internal memory, the rest is taken by the system, boot and recovery partitions, so your200+ sounds about right.
read up on creating an ext partition on your sd card, and either flash a rom that supports it already, or add a script to your current rom, , then, instead of using the data partition on the nand the system will use the sd-ext partition as if it were nand. (This is NOT the same as choosing 'move to sd' in the apps config screens, that moves it to the fat partition, and some apps wont work from there, , , all apps will work from the ext partition, and faster than the fat partition.)
There are two sets of scripts, some move the whole data partition to ext, meaning of course you are not using the 200+ mb on the nand, so for me i prefer the scripts that move only the apps to the ext partition, and keeps your actual data (txts, contacts, stuff like that) on the regular nand data partition, thus spreading the useage.
look out for keywords like 'app2sd+' 'data2ext' 'dataonext', , stuff like that when you're searching.

samsamuel said:
only the data partition counts as internal memory, the rest is taken by the system, boot and recovery partitions, so your200+ sounds about right.
read up on creating an ext partition on your sd card, and either flash a rom that supports it already, or add a script to your current rom, , then, instead of using the data partition on the nand the system will use the sd-ext partition as if it were nand. (This is NOT the same as choosing 'move to sd' in the apps config screens, that moves it to the fat partition, and some apps wont work from there, , , all apps will work from the ext partition, and faster than the fat partition.)
There are two sets of scripts, some move the whole data partition to ext, meaning of course you are not using the 200+ mb on the nand, so for me i prefer the scripts that move only the apps to the ext partition, and keeps your actual data (txts, contacts, stuff like that) on the regular nand data partition, thus spreading the useage.
look out for keywords like 'app2sd+' 'data2ext' 'dataonext', , stuff like that when you're searching.
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Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
Late I think me brain is playing tricks on me...:cyclops:

shanman-2 said:
Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
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so, pretty much exactly what i described, then....

shanman-2 said:
Excellent advice, but I think you forgot to mention this
Late I think me brain is playing tricks on me...:cyclops:
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So, I don't really need to use this. I just can install a new ROM on my NAND after making extending place on my SD for the 'dataonext', can't I?
I have to choose a dataonext ROM (with french version) and make new partition on my CD card. I'm saving all the SD card data's just now (with luckyBackup, because I'm on ubuntu PC).
My problem is find a good ROM for my needs. So, I have HSPL 2.0.8 and MAGLDR. How can I find the rom radio number? I need this information to choose the good ROM. Any advices about good ROM for my needs?

r no need to change the radio,,, if magldr works then the radio is fine.

samsamuel said:
r no need to change the radio,,, if magldr works then the radio is fine.
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I bought a new 16 GB SD card to try the method of post 1843062. I am trying to format as it should, and tonight or tomorrow, I'm trying to see if I can install the script without too much risk, I am not a very experienced user of ROM for HD2 and, in addition, as I'm 100% Linux Ubuntu, I saw that many procedures are more complicated or impossible to run from a Linux desktop.
Thank you for all your help and I'll let you know.

I need to understand.
I have a EU HD2 with HyperDroid CM7 installed on it.
Like many people here, my memory became too small over time. So I look for a solution and I was guided to this thread. While speaking, I read everything I could understand (and frankly there really is too much to read and understand, here ) and I ended up deciding to adopt the solution Kokotas.
So I bought a new SD card (16GB class 10 Duracell - I know, Duracell is a brand of batteries ...) and I formatted properly Gparted as shown, with one primary partition of 12 GB fat32 I named /données (French for datas) and a second primary partition 4 GB Ext4 I named /data.
Then I primed to install the script Kokotas (but I have not yet done so, this is the trick!) And there: surprise!
I suddenly 4 times more free memory internally (from 20 MB to 80 MB), but it is still the same overall size!
I wonder how it is done, because it's been months that I want to release the NAND memory, I deleted almost all my applications downloaded without great effect and there, before installing the solution Kokotas, hop, I have the place!
I run Nautilus on my HD2 connected via USB and what do I see? in the partition /data in ext4, records were Cres /app /app-private and /dalvik-cache.
What does that mean? My ROM can do one DATAtoEXT 2011 alone, when she sees a partition SD / data?
Do I install the script Kokotas or it is not worth it?
Do I flash a new ROM (I thought MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but I'm not sure it's a good idea) without risk, in short I need to understand what happens with my phone.
Thank you.
(Sorry for my english : this is the fault of Google translation )

You might also consider just running an SD build instead of NAND. You can get a 2GB "internal storage" system.img and you don't risk getting bad blocks on nand by constantly flashing things. In my use of both I didn't really see any great speed increase or advantage in using NAND other than boot-up time is a bit less, but does that really matter?
Just another thought on this.

orangekid said:
You might also consider just running an SD build instead of NAND. You can get a 2GB "internal storage" system.img and you don't risk getting bad blocks on nand by constantly flashing things. In my use of both I didn't really see any great speed increase or advantage in using NAND other than boot-up time is a bit less, but does that really matter?
Just another thought on this.
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I thought NAND is better for battery's management...

Monolecte said:
I thought NAND is better for battery's management...
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I didn't see any great battery improvement with NAND.

ROM flashing don't work
I tried to flash MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but, it wasn't working. I think this is because Resurection needs this specific table of partition and I don't how can I modify this table of partition. CMW had a partition tool? How can I do?

Monolecte said:
I tried to flash MIUI-MIX_3.3.1, but, it wasn't working. I think this is because Resurection needs this specific table of partition and I don't how can I modify this table of partition. CMW had a partition tool? How can I do?
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use the nand toolkit

samsamuel said:
use the nand toolkit
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With an Ubuntu PC?

After miles of thread reading here, I won against the machine!
I have something like a new phone.
Thank you everybody.
If I can do it, anybody can do it!

ubuntu or windows will be fine.

The NAND Toolkit is a Windows software... so...