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[Q] can't install ROMs

Hi,
I've been trying Android ROMS in my HD2 for about a year now, but some can still call me a noob.
Now i'm using CWM and it's been great since everything worked as i aspected.
Nowadays you see a lot of bigger ROMs (Sense ect.) and i like to try that out but it doesn't work.
I partitioned my SD card within the Clockwork Recovery Mode with an 1024 partition and a 0 Swap partition. I'm using Radio 2.12... installed a fresh MAGDLR , everything as it should be installed.
For some reason i can't install for example: Energy™ -.¸¸.·´¯ Sense 3.0 Official Desire HD ,Desire HD 3.06.405.1 - Sense 3.0 - Android 2.3.5 and the BP Sense HD. They're all above the 250 mb and i think that's the problem because everything under 200 mb will install without any problem.
Can anybody point me the right direction because i'm sure that i do something wrong but can't find out what.
Thanks sofar...
Pascal

When you partition your SD card in Clockwork Mod, this is partitioning the SD card for use with A2SD. You need to flash a larger recovery. This can be done using the HD2 NAND Toolkit. I don't know how to do this, sorry, but I'm sure there are guides

recovery sizes are right?

what you re doing there is partitoning the sd card for use, what you have to do is change the partition layout for the nand partition
you woul be best off using the nand toolkit here : http://forum.xda-developedrs.com/showthread.php?t=1090783

[Q] SD partition

Hi,
Today i flashed with succes my first android rom Hyperdroid GBX v12, Gingerbread 2.3.3
But i missing sense in this rom so i wish an other rom with sense. I started to partitining my sd card but i get scared and flashed the same rom again.
1. can i flash each nand rom from sd card
2. if not is it possible to undo the partitining of th sd card
I'm so glad that i am windows free

arjanbannie said:
Hi,
Today i flashed with succes my first android rom Hyperdroid GBX v12, Gingerbread 2.3.3
But i missing sense in this rom so i wish an other rom with sense. I started to partitining my sd card but i get scared and flashed the same rom again.
1. can i flash each nand rom from sd card
2. if not is it possible to undo the partitining of th sd card
I'm so glad that i am windows free
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I didn't' get it! What scares you? You should partition your sd if its needed. Some ROMs, especially Sense, required SD Partition. If you skip this part the rom wouldnt boot. And the instalation is from SD!

First of all, don't be scared flashing a ROM. One of the only ways to brick a HD2 is by flashing the wrong radio.
Partitioning the SD card? Just use minitool partition manager or easeus partition manager (both work fine) and then create your Ext3 partition there. Just make sure you have the files on your SD card backed up to your PC as when you're partitioning, it'll need to format the card.
EDIT: to answer your questions...
1) it's only possible to have one android rom installed at one particular time.
2) it is possible to wipe the partition on your sd card to make it full capacity again. Search for 'Panasonic SD Formatter' and that works just fine.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

both of you thanks a lot for the quick reaction.
What scares me is that when i put a new rom at my sd card and flash it, is that enough or do i have to delete the old first???
And second, does it mather what kind of rom i flash there are to much to choose i think. i have a european model so i shouldnt choose the tmous models are all other roms save to flash?
What the heck i did it!!!!
No thinking just doing!!!!
but now its hanging on the start up
so back to the first flash who worked is there anyone who knows what i am doing wrong????

You should have enough space to have more than one rom on your SD card. Why it's looping on boot is because you have the wrong clockwork partition. In each rom it should be outlined as to what size you need the partition, then just reflash the right size clockwork from magldr/cLK.
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Skellyyy said:
You should have enough space to have more than one rom on your SD card. Why it's looping on boot is because you have the wrong clockwork partition. In each rom it should be outlined as to what size you need the partition, then just reflash the right size clockwork from magldr/cLK.
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do i need the panasonic sd formatter before doing this?

Nope you don't need to do anything to the SD card partition. It's the internal memory you're partitioning to make room for your ROM. Can't remember exactly but you can just edit one of the files that you've got in your clockwork folder to change the partition size or just go to the clockwork thread and download the partition size clockwork you need.
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Questions to sense roms

Hey,
So I wanted to give sense a chance, since I really like sense 3.5.
But I'm having problems finding a good rom, I tried it with energy but its slow and runs not smooth at all, even tho other people dont seem to have problems with it.
And Im also confused about all that SD-Partitioning, tried doing it like in the Guides but from all the partitioning my SD Card is only 900MB out of 2GB now and I cant seem to delete all the other partitions.
Regards

try RCMix3D Runny v5.0, i heard some good things about it.
as for sd card partitioning:
flash 4ext recovery (in attachment) with CWM, your phone should reboot into 4ext recovery.
in 4ext go to: Advanced -> Partition SD Card -> Remove all partitions and start from scratch.
Now it will prompt you for the desired sizes for all your partitions, but don't get confused if it asks twice for the ext size, the 1st time is for the 1st ext partition the 2nd for the 2nd partition.
Generally you wouldn't want/need a 2nd ext partition so choose 0 mb for that one.
ext-4 is the desired type for the ext partition.
hope i have been of help..

Thanks man!
Will try that out tomorrow.
But about that rom you posted, I read in the Rom specific Thread that it runs relatively slow, anyhow I'll try it.

So I installed it now, did a 1024M sd-ext partition and flashed 210M CWM with 5M cache using the HD2 Toolkit.
But after the clean install I only get 993 quadrant score and it is pretty laggy/slow
Is this normal with sense roms? oO

I don't find the rom to be slow at all.
I have yet to try v5. I'm still on 4.xx.
For me the rom is fast and I heard with Kernel v6 or Marc's kernel the rom goes great.

Was my post helpful?

If you want to try sense I would look at haldrics sense roms he has done a great job with both 2.1 and 3.5 also they are both smooth and fast.

Maxp101 said:
try RCMix3D Runny v5.0, i heard some good things about it.
as for sd card partitioning:
flash 4ext recovery (in attachment) with CWM, your phone should reboot into 4ext recovery.
in 4ext go to: Advanced -> Partition SD Card -> Remove all partitions and start from scratch.
Now it will prompt you for the desired sizes for all your partitions, but don't get confused if it asks twice for the ext size, the 1st time is for the 1st ext partition the 2nd for the 2nd partition.
Generally you wouldn't want/need a 2nd ext partition so choose 0 mb for that one.
ext-4 is the desired type for the ext partition.
hope i have been of help..
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That .zip didn't work out for some people. I would recommend using minitool partition wizard. It's free and works great (Windows)
If you are using linux, try gparted.

MccM MixTheme Runny+Ryhme V10
Hi, I'm running MccM MixTheme Runny+Ryhme V10 on SD card, I've got 2171 in Quadrant Standard. i have 16GB card with 8GB free.
The only problem with this is Wifi hotspot is not working, so I use "Barnacle"
Have any one try that? any better ROM than this?

jeNova- said:
So I installed it now, did a 1024M sd-ext partition and flashed 210M CWM with 5M cache using the HD2 Toolkit.
But after the clean install I only get 993 quadrant score and it is pretty laggy/slow
Is this normal with sense roms? oO
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In my opinion no. I'm on the TBD v3.1 Sensation XL themed ROM, it comes with Sense 3.5 and works really fine!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275119
Do you have an opportunity to try it with another SD-Card? Maybe it's broken.

alx85 said:
In my opinion no. I'm on the TBD v3.1 Sensation XL themed ROM, it comes with Sense 3.5 and works really fine!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275119
Do you have an opportunity to try it with another SD-Card? Maybe it's broken.
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if you follow the link, you see the rom, but it's crab, only 1319 in quadrant???
why don't you try the one i have "MccM MixTheme Runny+Ryhme V10"
you can get around 2100 in the quadrant, but as i said the only problem is WIFI HOTSPOT is not working you have to use "barnacle" instead.
have any one try it? and let me know is there a fix for "wifi-hot spot"?

Sense to me, just feels too slow & clunky but the sense 2.1 feel faster to me

Can you share 2.1 ROM?

[Q] Moving from SD to NativeSD

Hi all,
I apologize for not posting into the appropriate develeopment thread but I am not allowed to post there.
[17.Sep.2012][MAGLDR/SD][NativeSD] NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA-SD V2.7
Is there a way to move from a working SD build to this NativeSD build without losing everything? I imagine it can be done with TitaniumBackup but I wonder if I could somehow simply copy the contents of the *.ext4 files to the new EXT4 partition somewhere?
Thanks.

If you are already using an ext 4 for app2sd on your nand ..don't worry ...you can install native SD rom without problem ..and not losing data..native SD rom files get installed in a folder called native SD and your nand rom files are on the root of the ext 4..so you can have both using the same ext4
If you are using an SD build ..that means your files are on fat32 part...copy that..make a back up on PC..make SD ext 4 partition ...install native SD build ...copy back the backup on fat32 portion and you are good to go...you can have both
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Wait...how come you have files on ext4 using your old SD build?
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk 2

Thank you. I am currently using an SD build, my SD card is FAT32-formatted. Are you saying that all I need to to do is backup everything from the SD card to my PC, repartition to FAT32 + EXT4, copy back to the FAT32 and install the NativeSD build to the EXT4 partition? Will the new NativeSD build use the data from my existing data.ext4 automatically somehow?
Wait...how come you have files on ext4 using your old SD build?
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I don't have files on ext4, but I have "system.ext4" and "data.ext4" in my Android dir on the SD card.

Hacker4748 said:
Thank you. I am currently using an SD build, my SD card is FAT32-formatted. Are you saying that all I need to to do is backup everything from the SD card to my PC, repartition to FAT32 + EXT4, copy back to the FAT32 and install the NativeSD build to the EXT4 partition? Will the new NativeSD build use the data from my existing data.ext4 automatically somehow?
I don't have files on ext4, but I have "system.ext4" and "data.ext4" in my Android dir on the SD card.
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Hello Hacker4748,
I would recommend to create a fresh data.ext4 from your NativeSD build once it is installed. I also recommend strongly to format your SD card after you copied its content to your PC. Don't use fast format! The formating procedure will take it's time but otherwise you might get problems with installation and/or battery consumption.
If you haven't read it until now, here's a link to mengfeis superb HOWTO (don't forget hitting his thanks button ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31414628&postcount=1
Have fun
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TitaniumBackup (TB)
Hacker4748 said:
Is there a way to move from a working SD build to this NativeSD build without losing everything? I imagine it can be done with TitaniumBackup
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It can be done easily with TitaniumBackup. Keep the working SD build in FAT32 and TB will use this info to restore your apps, data and xml (calls, sms etc).
TB will not restore the icons - some loaders may allow you to backup and restore settings.
Cheers
Tom

Hacker4748 said:
Thank you. I am currently using an SD build, my SD card is FAT32-formatted. Are you saying that all I need to to do is backup everything from the SD card to my PC, repartition to FAT32 + EXT4, copy back to the FAT32 and install the NativeSD build to the EXT4 partition? Will the new NativeSD build use the data from my existing data.ext4 automatically somehow?
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the first part is correct....
the native sd is like a new rom..it will not touch your apps from the fat32 part of old rom...you need to install apps again on the native sd rom ..you can use titanium backup on your old sd rom, and install them all on your new NSD rom using Titanium backup (fat 32 part is shared folders for both builds..so camera pics or wallpapers from zedge and like are shared on both builds)

Thanks to all.
pakure said:
the first part is correct....
the native sd is like a new rom..it will not touch your apps from the fat32 part of old rom...you need to install apps again on the native sd rom ..you can use titanium backup on your old sd rom, and install them all on your new NSD rom using Titanium backup (fat 32 part is shared folders for both builds..so camera pics or wallpapers from zedge and like are shared on both builds)
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Thank you. So basically, If I understand correctly, the EXT4 partition on the SD card will basically be what the System.ext4 and Data.ext4 files are now and the "Android" or "ICS" folder will not be required anymore. Thus the EXT4 partition should be around 1,5 GB and the rest can be FAT32.
It is recommended to use a fresh Data.ext4 for installation (or to let the system create one from scratch) and not the existing one from my currently used SD build.
To backup and restore TitaniumBackup is recommended.
Anything I am missing?
Thanks again very much.

Yes...
Ext4 of the native sd works similar to data.IMG file.. of old sd build method.
Try it and you will understand yourself
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Migrate SD install to NativeSD
I have the same question but can't quite relate the answers to what I have on my memory card. I have a (mostly) working copy of 2.3.7 that I've been using for some time, but often have problems after connecting the phone to a computer - sometimes files added to the SD fat32 partition don't show up, or my ringtone on the SD doesn't work or .... So I was also wondering whether rather than install a fresh setup on NativeSD and reload all the apps (tried twice with 4.x versions and neither are happy) I could just move my SD install to NativeSD.
In the /Android folder I have kernel files, the large data filesystem, a smaller system one and some other stuff. Under /NativeSD I also have some kernel files and 2 folders, one for each attempt at a NativeSD install. I understand some of what's in startup.txt but it doesn't appear to be enough. I guess there must be things in the SD builds which tell the phone where to find data and system which would need changing? Is this possible?
Thanks

Moving from SD to NativeSD
Hacker4748 said:
Thanks to all.
Thank you. So basically, If I understand correctly, the EXT4 partition on the SD card will basically be what the System.ext4 and Data.ext4 files are now and the "Android" or "ICS" folder will not be required anymore. Thus the EXT4 partition should be around 1,5 GB and the rest can be FAT32.
It is recommended to use a fresh Data.ext4 for installation (or to let the system create one from scratch) and not the existing one from my currently used SD build.
To backup and restore TitaniumBackup is recommended.
Anything I am missing?
Thanks again very much.
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One statement is not correct: you WILL have to have an "Android" folder as it holds a data folder for many apps. Also you may want to read through my lengthy posts in the [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users that I wrote (good info even for non WM NativeSD users).
Your statement "It is recommended to use a fresh Data.ext4 for installation" does not make sense for NativeSD. You can keep your current SD build and still use it. For NativeSD, the EXT4 Partition has a folder for data. That is why NativeSD is faster - it uses the SD card, rather than a file.
Cheers
Tom

Szczepanik said:
One statement is not correct: you WILL have to have an "Android" folder as it holds a data folder for many apps. Also you may want to read through my lengthy posts in the [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users that I wrote (good info even for non WM NativeSD users).
Your statement "It is recommended to use a fresh Data.ext4 for installation" does not make sense for NativeSD. You can keep your current SD build and still use it. For NativeSD, the EXT4 Partition has a folder for data. That is why NativeSD is faster - it uses the SD card, rather than a file.
Cheers
Tom
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Useful guide - thanks - but the question remains - is it possible to move/copy an SD install to run from a NativeSD partition. I can see the folder in the ext4 partition named after the install, and the data and system folders in that. I can extract the data and system files from /Android into those easy enough. Question is, what to call the folder, and how to make the bootloader use it? Do I just move the kernel files to the NativeSD folder? What goes in startup.txt?
I've tried mr-evil1's EvoHD2 V10 but had the problem of it losing then re-detecting the sim card and needing a reboot. Thought it was a bit slow too even though it was on a Class 10 16 GB Samsung MicroSD card. That's why I'm wondering if I can just move my Gingerbread install across.
Thanks

NativeSD
MrSoapsud said:
Useful guide - thanks - but the question remains - is it possible to move/copy an SD install to run from a NativeSD partition. I can see the folder in the ext4 partition named after the install, and the data and system folders in that. I can extract the data and system files from /Android into those easy enough. Question is, what to call the folder, and how to make the bootloader use it? Do I just move the kernel files to the NativeSD folder? What goes in startup.txt?
I've tried mr-evil1's EvoHD2 V10 but had the problem of it losing then re-detecting the sim card and needing a reboot. Thought it was a bit slow too even though it was on a Class 10 16 GB Samsung MicroSD card. That's why I'm wondering if I can just move my Gingerbread install across.
Thanks
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MrSoapsud - it is not easy to move/copy an SD install to run from a NativeSD partition. You can find more information in the threads linked in my guide, in particular:
Howto port NAND to NativeSD | Step-by-Step
How is the NativeSD ROM work?
The easiest is to backup your apps and data (e.g. Titanium Backup), flash the new NativeSD ROM and then restore your apps. I would recommend Xylographs PACman or one of Tytung ROMs:
[13-NOV-2012][ROM][JB][4.1.2] PACman HD2 v1.2a [PA/AOKP/CM10][NativeSD][WIP]
[Nov. 18, 2012][ROM][720p] NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.8 [NativeSD]
[3.Nov.2012][ROM] NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.2 [NativeSD]
Cheers
Tom

OK - thanks again. Will take a look at that stuff and/or try one of those other ROMs.

Szczepanik said:
MrSoapsud - it is not easy to move/copy an SD install to run from a NativeSD partition. You can find more information in the threads linked in my guide, in particular:
Howto port NAND to NativeSD | Step-by-Step
How is the NativeSD ROM work?
The easiest is to backup your apps and data (e.g. Titanium Backup), flash the new NativeSD ROM and then restore your apps. I would recommend Xylographs PACman or one of Tytung ROMs:
[13-NOV-2012][ROM][JB][4.1.2] PACman HD2 v1.2a [PA/AOKP/CM10][NativeSD][WIP]
[Nov. 18, 2012][ROM][720p] NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.8 [NativeSD]
[3.Nov.2012][ROM] NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.2 [NativeSD]
Cheers
Tom
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Tried the 4.0.4 one but found it too slow to be usable. Then found a NativeSD version of the AmeriCanAndroid 2.3.7 release I'd been using before so installed that and added my apps back. Speed and usability are good. Do any of the 4.1.2 ports run at an acceptable speed on the good old HD2?
Thanks
Martin

MrSoapsud said:
Tried the 4.0.4 one but found it too slow to be usable. Then found a NativeSD version of the AmeriCanAndroid 2.3.7 release I'd been using before so installed that and added my apps back. Speed and usability are good. Do any of the 4.1.2 ports run at an acceptable speed on the good old HD2?
Thanks
Martin
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My experience is, all speed and comfort of NativeSD depend on your sd card.
If you have card with good random r/w speed then you just need to test which custom roms fits you.
If you have card with bad slow random r/w speed(not class, normal speeed etc) then my advice is do alot xda and internet search for fast sd card with good random r/w. When you find good sd card allways try to buy exact model, cause even small difference in model number makes big difference in random r/w.
Atm sd card manufacturers doesnt provide full info about speeed except normal read and write so expect alot time energy spend on research.
Htc hd2 how is getting older he will need more and more investment and sd card will be crucial one.
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[Q] 4ext won't recognize my NAND, can't install NAND ROM

Hi,
decided to start using my HD2 again, this time with a NAND ROM instead of NativeSD.
Got Magldr 1.13, using recovery_4EXT2.2.7_leo_sd.
I can boot into 4ext and try to install a new NAND ROM,(ChauTien_Cyanogen_4.4.2_V2.0, Slimroms JellyBean 4.3.1 Build2.1 Final).
Aroma installer complains that my NAND is -1 MB :/
How do I go about fixing that?
Thanks

kosmarnik said:
Hi,
decided to start using my HD2 again, this time with a NAND ROM instead of NativeSD.
Got Magldr 1.13, using recovery_4EXT2.2.7_leo_sd.
I can boot into 4ext and try to install a new NAND ROM,(ChauTien_Cyanogen_4.4.2_V2.0, Slimroms JellyBean 4.3.1 Build2.1 Final).
Aroma installer complains that my NAND is -1 MB :/
How do I go about fixing that?
Thanks
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just partition your nand correctly for your rom and flash.
Says -1mb if no android there.

Robbie P said:
just partition your nand correctly for your rom and flash.
Says -1mb if no android there.
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Never done that before. 4ext print partition info only lists the sd card :|
I tried CWM SD but it just reboots.
I've downloaded DFT Android ROM for HTC LEO, and there is a cfg file with the partition layout, trying to figure out the sizes for the ROMs I'd like to try.
I've been searching a bit and found mention of flashing TMOUS radio to get more memory on the EU variant, do you remember what exact radio should I flash?

kosmarnik said:
Never done that before. 4ext print partition info only lists the sd card :|
I tried CWM SD but it just reboots.
I've downloaded DFT Android ROM for HTC LEO, and there is a cfg file with the partition layout, trying to figure out the sizes for the ROMs I'd like to try.
I've been searching a bit and found mention of flashing TMOUS radio to get more memory on the EU variant, do you remember what exact radio should I flash?
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The radio in your sig is fine
For eu hd2 try dataonext, with an ext4 partition on your sd card, and use a large system partition (up to 400mb)

Robbie P said:
The radio in your sig is fine
For eu hd2 try dataonext, with an ext4 partition on your sd card, and use a large system partition (up to 400mb)
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Ah, the thing is I'd rather not waste sdcards on the hd2 (no small cards left .
DFT didn't work, I guess it's a driver problem, and google_android drivers won't install on win7 x64.
:/