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[Q] WINDOWS PHONE 7 release on nov 8 on HTC HD7

I have confirmed that Windows Phone 7 is being released on several devices on November 8th. The tmobile version has two devices, the one that interests me is the HTC HD7 (and dell venue pro). Nice looking phone 4.3 inch screen, but major difference is it has three buttons (touch like the HD).
here is the link...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/7/phones.aspx#filter=24&cmpid=14303000&wt.mc_id=insidernl
does anyone know how they plan to give the hd2 owners the OS? and what about the people who dont know anything about flashing?
WHo has reliable information on how they plan to do this.
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Hd2 will not be getting wp7.... that was announced a long time ago. No official upgrade.
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YES an excuse to tell myself to buy a new device!!!
zarathustrax said:
Hd2 will not be getting wp7.... that was announced a long time ago. No official upgrade.
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Thank you for the bad/good news!!!
I actually just signed up to get a HD7 as soon as it's released. I keep seeing that there are too many driver/hardware compatibility issues to make wp7 work on the hd2...
A little f'd up because HTC hinted that anyone who bought the HD2 would be able to upgrade when wp7 came out...it's a good thing that we have great chef's otherwise the HD2 would be a waste
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android on htc hd7 same as htc hd2??
now that this phone is coming out will it be the same process to run android on this new phone hd7, or is it more complicated then the htc hd2. are these the same phone basically spec wise except for touch buttons and a kickstand. lets strat the comparison, as i just ordered a hd2 to put android on it but not sure if the hd7 will run android better.

hd7 is not out yet how do we know if you can even run android on windows phone 7! we will all have to wait and see!

Hopefully our great devs here will be able to port wp7 over. Cotulla already got it to boot up on the hd2, which is a great sign. Considering the hd7 has the exact same hardware as our hd2, wp7 has the possibility to run great on our phones. We can only hope and support our devs. Time will tell.
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xxfirerican said:
now that this phone is coming out will it be the same process to run android on this new phone hd7, or is it more complicated then the htc hd2. are these the same phone basically spec wise except for touch buttons and a kickstand. lets strat the comparison, as i just ordered a hd2 to put android on it but not sure if the hd7 will run android better.
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You should get a native android phone if you just want to run android. Android on the hd2 will probably never run as well as native android phone... its always gonna be a hacked on version of android.
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android on hd7 risky move
xxfirerican said:
now that this phone is coming out will it be the same process to run android on this new phone hd7, .
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I'd be a little skeptical about trying the same process on the HD7, will an uploader work or will it brick the phone. we know what happened with the the hd2 hspl was neccessary. And, if the drivers are so different that the wm7 is incompatible with the hd2's hardware...i would assume just throwing the android we have now onto a diffent device is asking for trouble (althoug from everything I'm seeing, the hd7 is almost the same thing... i dont like the fact that the 16gb of memory is on board...will it have an sd slot?)
I'd wait until someone successfully does it
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When I looked at the spec it look like it the same processor as my HD2 except for the button. So it can be program to use Windows Mobile 7 without programming the other buttong? Just curious. Can someone check it out? Thanks.

Oh you dear, sweet, uninitiated. Allow me to clarify some points:
1-WILL THE HD2 GET AN UPGRADE TO WP7
A-Officially, no. This was announced some months ago that the HD2 will NOT be getting an upgrade to WP7 from MS or HTC.
2-DOES THAT MEAN THAT A CUSTOM WP7 ROM WILL HAPPEN?
A-Maybe. As it has been stated, Cotulla has booted WP7 successfully on HD2 hardware, but it is uncertain as to wether it will work in day to day use. His team is currently VERY secretive about what is/isn't working.
3-WHAT ABOUT ANDROID?
A-I have always said, if you wan't Android, buy and Android device. WP7 will almost certainly NOT work with current Android builds. Different hardware, different drivers etc. Oh and WP7 is not compatable with CE applications...which means HaRET...and pretty much any program written for WinMo.
I hope that clears some things up!

[Q] HTC HD2 or HTC Mozart?

Hey,
I have searched and found no relevant results with regards to my question.
Sorry if I am unacceptability opening a new thread...
Just would really like some advice on a purchasing decision.
I am a student and therefore on a strictly limited income, despite this, I was able to save £230 and now have the option of buying a brand new HD2 or saving up another £30 or so and buying a HTC Mozart.
On the HD2 I will probably primarily use Windows Phone 7 but the possible option of using Android is very attractive.
I guess im asking is the usability of the HD2's Windows Phone 7 good enough to come close to the Mozart's?
I am obviously not expecting 100% smoothness but I was thinking more about things like Zune and the playback of music and general syncing with the software, which is very important to me.
Is the device generally usable for most tasks or should I forget the Android option and go for the smaller Mozart option?
Many thanks.

I currently have a HD2 and a test Mozart. No difference in performance at all. Of course the Mozart has a much better camera but that's all. I would not trade my HD2 for a Mozart for sure

I have HD2. Android on HD2 is almost perfect and Win7 runs well enough on the HD2 for me. I haven't used win 6.5 for 6 months. It really depends on what you need the phone to do. Go to this address: http://android.hd2roms.com/
The link above will take you to a page dedicated to Android for HD2. You can read about each build and the small problems that some still have.
ROM cooking for Win7 has just begun but the ROMS available are already very good. Go to the link below to read about the Win7 builds available for the HD2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=975
Is the device generally usable for most tasks ? YES!

Just a second thought on this. The HD2 is the better toy for sure and I wouldn't trade my own for any existing device, but you must be prepared for much reading and maybe some problems. If you want a phone that just works and makes no trouble than maybe the Mozart is the better solution.

HTC HD2 or HTC Mozart
Hi there,
This thread is little bit older, but my issue is the same.
Having in mind that there are a lot of progress porting Mango to HD2, I want to hear from you which is the best now: HTC HD2 with Mango or HTC Mozart?
I will use it for development (I meant developing apps for Mango) and as my primary phone. Is Mango fully functional in HD2 and is there any HD7 official stock ROM that is ported for HD2.
Any suggestions?

r3xha said:
Hi there,
This thread is little bit older, but my issue is the same.
Having in mind that there are a lot of progress porting Mango to HD2, I want to hear from you which is the best now: HTC HD2 with Mango or HTC Mozart?
I will use it for development (I meant developing apps for Mango) and as my primary phone. Is Mango fully functional in HD2 and is there any HD7 official stock ROM that is ported for HD2.
Any suggestions?
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If you're serious about development you should stick to one of the official WP7 devices. With the HD2 you'll never know how long it will take before it's possible to install the latest updates. Debugging/Performance Analysis wasn't possible on HD2 running Mango until ultrasound/xboxmod released an update a few days ago (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241932&page=2). So right now it's like any other WP7 device, but this may change in the future.

help needed to choose between HD2 and HD7

Hello guys,
I am going to University of Waterloo, Canada, to study software engineering this fall. I currently own a xperia x10i but i have found out that it wont be able to work in Canada due to network band compatibility issues.
Hence i am gonna switch over to WIND telecom and purchase the 29CAD/mo student plan.
I basically now want to use a windows phone. Would you recommend me to get the HD7 or the HD2?
if Windows 8 ever comes out, then will it run on the HD2 or HD7? I intend to keep this phone for a minimum 3 years.
One more thing that should be kept in mind is that the normal hd2 WONT work with WIND network bands. Only the T mobile version works on WIND.
The same case is valid for the T-mobile version of HD7.
I also like customizing and flashing different ROMs etc, HD2 is undoubtedly the best HACKER friendly phone in current times, since android,ubuntu, wm7,meegoo etc have been ported to it. Will the HD7 also be like HD2 in the near future?
To summarize my requirements, i would like to use Windows mobile, preferably windows 7 (fully functioning or important things working like marketplace, browser, wifi, xbox) for a span of 3 years.
Also the device should not lag much.
Please help me choose between the HD2 and HD7.
Cheers!
Vito

If you want windows phone take an hd7. But it won‘t get all the developement the hd2 has. You also have to remember that the hd2 is already 2 years old. Developement decreases and many devs already switched to a newer phone. But if you‘re into flashing the hd2 is king.
I would take the hd7 if you want to use wp and the hd2 if you want android or an outdated winmo.

rauschkugl said:
If you want windows phone take an hd7. But it won‘t get all the developement the hd2 has. You also have to remember that the hd2 is already 2 years old. Developement decreases and many devs already switched to a newer phone. But if you‘re into flashing the hd2 is king.
I would take the hd7 if you want to use wp and the hd2 if you want android or an outdated winmo.
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well yes i would sometimes like to use android, but will the hd2 have full windows 7 capabilites?

Vito Andolini Corleone said:
well yes i would sometimes like to use android, but will the hd2 have full windows 7 capabilites?
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It already does, we're just waiting for a cleaned-up working Mango build.

Well that's awesome! Is it true that the hd2 is faster than hd7?
Will the cleaned up hd2 perform better than hd7? Btw from your point of view by seeing the pros and cons if both phones which one do you recommend?
orangekid said:
It already does, we're just waiting for a cleaned-up working Mango build.
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Vito Andolini Corleone said:
Well that's awesome! Is it true that the hd2 is faster than hd7?
Will the cleaned up hd2 perform better than hd7? Btw from your point of view by seeing the pros and cons if both phones which one do you recommend?
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HD7 will perform WP7 better than the HD2 always.
HD2 has the "multi-touch bug" (where if you don't put both fingers at exactly the same time, multi-touch won't work).
HD7 also has better battery life.
If you really want perfect WP7, get an HD7. For me, I want Android too much to ever get a WP7-only device. I use and like Android more, but I do reboot into WP7 sometimes, and it's a good experience when I do.

Vito Andolini Corleone said:
Hello guys,
I am going to University of Waterloo, Canada, to study software engineering this fall. I currently own a xperia x10i but i have found out that it wont be able to work in Canada due to network band compatibility issues.
Hence i am gonna switch over to WIND telecom and purchase the 29CAD/mo student plan.
I basically now want to use a windows phone. Would you recommend me to get the HD7 or the HD2?
if Windows 8 ever comes out, then will it run on the HD2 or HD7? I intend to keep this phone for a minimum 3 years.
One more thing that should be kept in mind is that the normal hd2 WONT work with WIND network bands. Only the T mobile version works on WIND.
The same case is valid for the T-mobile version of HD7.
I also like customizing and flashing different ROMs etc, HD2 is undoubtedly the best HACKER friendly phone in current times, since android,ubuntu, wm7,meegoo etc have been ported to it. Will the HD7 also be like HD2 in the near future?
To summarize my requirements, i would like to use Windows mobile, preferably windows 7 (fully functioning or important things working like marketplace, browser, wifi, xbox) for a span of 3 years.
Also the device should not lag much.
Please help me choose between the HD2 and HD7.
Cheers!
Vito
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you choose HD2 (windows mobile - android - windows phone - ubuntu)

Vito Andolini Corleone said:
To summarize my requirements, i would like to use Windows mobile, preferably windows 7 (fully functioning or important things working like marketplace, browser, wifi, xbox) for a span of 3 years.
Also the device should not lag much.
Please help me choose between the HD2 and HD7.
Cheers!
Vito
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You will never be able to run Windows 7 or 8 on any current phone.
If you want to use Windows Mobile, then you need to choose the HD2 or another Windows Mobile device.
If you want to use Windows Phone, then you should choose a native WP7 device to avoid the touchscreen bug and unlock lag.

android is also beeing portet for the hd7. there were vids around ages ago and now rspl for windows phones was released. so you will also get custom roms.
i think if you want to use wp7 as your main os you should take the hd7.

rauschkugl said:
android is also beeing portet for the hd7. there were vids around ages ago and now rspl for windows phones was released. so you will also get custom roms.
i think if you want to use wp7 as your main os you should take the hd7.
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I wouldn't be so sure...
Cotulla said:
for LEO - yes. about WP7F, we have some experiments and runnning some MAGLDR version on Gold and Mozart, but not sure how deep it will go.
because this devices are not so lucky as LEO, some things make stuffs difficult, like external audio codec and other ril interface. Last thing can stop porting for a long time. time will show truth but I can't promise anything.
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Dude you won't believe I'm going to Waterloo this year and I'm in the same dilemma as you!
Btw, I'm going in Computer Engineering, and I probably going for the HD2 cause it gives me more time to play around, reason it's so widely hacked..

Tilt 2 To HD2 Up Grade Questions.

A friend is selling an HD2 (t-Mobile) that I’m thinking on buying. A present I have an Tilt-2 (AT&T) running WM6.5. I would like to root the HD2 for AT&T and install WM6.5, and eventually Android. Below are my questions.
I have a back-up of WM6.5 OS from HTC's Tilt 2 support page. Can I load this on the HD2 after rooting?
One concerns I have is I was told the HD2 will never achieve 3g on AT&T. No mater what I do. Is this true?

Why would you want to have the Tilt's Winmo 6.5 on the HD2? The HD2 has it's own Winmo 6.5.
Better yet, install a custom HD2 rom with winmo 6.5.3 for an even better winmo experience.

Nylo said:
A friend is selling an HD2 (t-Mobile) that I’m thinking on buying. A present I have an Tilt-2 (AT&T) running WM6.5. I would like to root the HD2 for AT&T and install WM6.5, and eventually Android. Below are my questions.
I have a back-up of WM6.5 OS from HTC's Tilt 2 support page. Can I load this on the HD2 after rooting?
One concerns I have is I was told the HD2 will never achieve 3g on AT&T. No mater what I do. Is this true?
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What you are wanting to do is actually unlock the phone, not root(two different things). Unlocking will allow you to use a different provider's SIM card. If your friend is still with T-Mobile and his/her account is in good standing and has been for at least 90 days, he can contact T-Mobile and request the unlock code.
As far as WM6.5, as Cenobite said, it's already running WM6.5, unless your friend has flashed Android or WP7 to it. You can use the ROM that comes on it if it is running WM6.5, or you can browse the WM6.5 development section to find a custom ROM that you want to use.
Now as for what you have heard about it not being able to use AT&T's 3G, that is true. T-Mobile US' version of the HD2 does not have the frequency bands that AT&T uses for their 3G. There's no way around that as it is part of the hardware. You will only be able to get EDGE using it with AT&T.

Because I think he loaded Android. For now I need to keep 6.5 for the Garmin XT. If he did I cannot find HD2's 6.5 OS, but I do have a back-up T2 6.5. Didn’t know there was a difference.
Cenobite_ said:
Why would you want to have the Tilt's Winmo 6.5 on the HD2? The HD2 has it's own Winmo 6.5.
Better yet, install a custom HD2 rom with winmo 6.5.3 for an even better winmo experience.
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Nylo said:
Because I think he loaded Android. For now I need to keep 6.5 for the Garmin XT. If he did I cannot find HD2's 6.5 OS, but I do have a back-up T2 6.5. Didn’t know there was a difference.
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If he did flash Android to it, and you need the 6.5 ROM for the HD2, you can find the stock T-Mobile US ROMs on this site, as well as custom 6.5 ROMs. Have a look in the "HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5" section.

Windows phone 7

can we upgrade this phone omnia 2 i8000 to windows phone 7.1 or 7.5 or any 7. version ?

Sorry, but there is no way to do that. WP7 is based a bit different than WM6.x. So, if you like WP7 then by a phone with that OS or you can get HD2 and have WM6.x, WP7 and Android on the same phone, like me

mendoza1 said:
Sorry, but there is no way to do that. WP7 is based a bit different than WM6.x. So, if you like WP7 then by a phone with that OS or you can get HD2 and have WM6.x, WP7 and Android on the same phone, like me
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I love this. If I have understood correctly, you are saying that you can run WM6.x. WP7 and Android on the same phone? Which one? HD2?? or also QTEK 9100
SE Xperia X1
SE Xperia X2
HTC Touch Pro
HTC Touch Pro 2
HTC 7 Pro
HTC HD2
I have an Qtek 9100 and would love to play on it
tx foe letting us know!!

You can run several OSs on HD2, not the QTek.
HD2 is the best phone I ever had, so if you like to experiment with ROMs and OSs than buy HD2 and you will be pleased with it. Unless, you need keyboard....

What´s the difference bwn the omnia2 and the hd2 that enables the latter to run w7 but not the former?
And do you have a multiboot installed or you have to re-flash the mobile to run a different OS?
I´d like to buy the same phone as I´m used to the old winme and i´m not very happy with android either. Just to have more options.