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[Q] WINDOWS PHONE 7 release on nov 8 on HTC HD7

I have confirmed that Windows Phone 7 is being released on several devices on November 8th. The tmobile version has two devices, the one that interests me is the HTC HD7 (and dell venue pro). Nice looking phone 4.3 inch screen, but major difference is it has three buttons (touch like the HD).
here is the link...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/7/phones.aspx#filter=24&cmpid=14303000&wt.mc_id=insidernl
does anyone know how they plan to give the hd2 owners the OS? and what about the people who dont know anything about flashing?
WHo has reliable information on how they plan to do this.
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Hd2 will not be getting wp7.... that was announced a long time ago. No official upgrade.
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YES an excuse to tell myself to buy a new device!!!
zarathustrax said:
Hd2 will not be getting wp7.... that was announced a long time ago. No official upgrade.
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Thank you for the bad/good news!!!
I actually just signed up to get a HD7 as soon as it's released. I keep seeing that there are too many driver/hardware compatibility issues to make wp7 work on the hd2...
A little f'd up because HTC hinted that anyone who bought the HD2 would be able to upgrade when wp7 came out...it's a good thing that we have great chef's otherwise the HD2 would be a waste
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android on htc hd7 same as htc hd2??
now that this phone is coming out will it be the same process to run android on this new phone hd7, or is it more complicated then the htc hd2. are these the same phone basically spec wise except for touch buttons and a kickstand. lets strat the comparison, as i just ordered a hd2 to put android on it but not sure if the hd7 will run android better.

hd7 is not out yet how do we know if you can even run android on windows phone 7! we will all have to wait and see!

Hopefully our great devs here will be able to port wp7 over. Cotulla already got it to boot up on the hd2, which is a great sign. Considering the hd7 has the exact same hardware as our hd2, wp7 has the possibility to run great on our phones. We can only hope and support our devs. Time will tell.
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xxfirerican said:
now that this phone is coming out will it be the same process to run android on this new phone hd7, or is it more complicated then the htc hd2. are these the same phone basically spec wise except for touch buttons and a kickstand. lets strat the comparison, as i just ordered a hd2 to put android on it but not sure if the hd7 will run android better.
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You should get a native android phone if you just want to run android. Android on the hd2 will probably never run as well as native android phone... its always gonna be a hacked on version of android.
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android on hd7 risky move
xxfirerican said:
now that this phone is coming out will it be the same process to run android on this new phone hd7, .
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I'd be a little skeptical about trying the same process on the HD7, will an uploader work or will it brick the phone. we know what happened with the the hd2 hspl was neccessary. And, if the drivers are so different that the wm7 is incompatible with the hd2's hardware...i would assume just throwing the android we have now onto a diffent device is asking for trouble (althoug from everything I'm seeing, the hd7 is almost the same thing... i dont like the fact that the 16gb of memory is on board...will it have an sd slot?)
I'd wait until someone successfully does it
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When I looked at the spec it look like it the same processor as my HD2 except for the button. So it can be program to use Windows Mobile 7 without programming the other buttong? Just curious. Can someone check it out? Thanks.

Oh you dear, sweet, uninitiated. Allow me to clarify some points:
1-WILL THE HD2 GET AN UPGRADE TO WP7
A-Officially, no. This was announced some months ago that the HD2 will NOT be getting an upgrade to WP7 from MS or HTC.
2-DOES THAT MEAN THAT A CUSTOM WP7 ROM WILL HAPPEN?
A-Maybe. As it has been stated, Cotulla has booted WP7 successfully on HD2 hardware, but it is uncertain as to wether it will work in day to day use. His team is currently VERY secretive about what is/isn't working.
3-WHAT ABOUT ANDROID?
A-I have always said, if you wan't Android, buy and Android device. WP7 will almost certainly NOT work with current Android builds. Different hardware, different drivers etc. Oh and WP7 is not compatable with CE applications...which means HaRET...and pretty much any program written for WinMo.
I hope that clears some things up!

[Q] Flash Windows 7 on desire?

Hello guys
I am for a big time without my HTC, I owned a HTC Raphael wich operated with wm 6.5 flashed by me and unblocked with jailbreak.
However my fuze got broken, and I stood a long time without a good phone, and now I am going to travel and decided to buy one.
So, I liked so much my fuze, because it worked with WM, and I've got more facilities downloading programs.
I have ever liked WM more than MAC(from iphone) by the apps, and all. The other feature I liked ou fuze was the QWERTY, wich there is on the DESIRE Z.
Can I flash the newest windows(7) on this Desire? Or only work on android? Wich is the apps available for this android? Is it feels like windows? or the codification of programs are all different?
Please help me, becaus if there is not many apps, I will choose by the HTC HD7 or IPHONE(even without QUERTY)
Thanks

You can not flash WM onto an Android device...you can however Flash Android onto WM. DO NOT get an iPhone!
If you like the flexbility of porting different OS on your device, you may want to look into HD2. WM7 project is underway for HD2 and Android is fully portable with a few snags here and there. If you simply want the option of a lot of apps, I would go with DZ as the Android marketplace is much better then WM.
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Hello guys
I am for a big time without my HTC, I owned a HTC Raphael wich operated with wm 6.5 flashed by me and unblocked with jailbreak.
However my fuze got broken, and I stood a long time without a good phone, and now I am going to travel and decided to buy one.
So, I liked so much my fuze, because it worked with WM, and I've got more facilities downloading programs.
I have ever liked WM more than MAC(from iphone) by the apps, and all. The other feature I liked ou fuze was the QWERTY, wich there is on the DESIRE Z.
Can I flash the newest windows(7) on this Desire? Or only work on android? Wich is the apps available for this android? Is it feels like windows? or the codification of programs are all different?
Please help me, becaus if there is not many apps, I will choose by the HTC HD7 or IPHONE(even without QUERTY)
Thanks
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basmareck said:
Hello guys
I am for a big time without my HTC, I owned a HTC Raphael wich operated with wm 6.5 flashed by me and unblocked with jailbreak.
However my fuze got broken, and I stood a long time without a good phone, and now I am going to travel and decided to buy one.
So, I liked so much my fuze, because it worked with WM, and I've got more facilities downloading programs.
I have ever liked WM more than MAC(from iphone) by the apps, and all. The other feature I liked ou fuze was the QWERTY, wich there is on the DESIRE Z.
Can I flash the newest windows(7) on this Desire? Or only work on android? Wich is the apps available for this android? Is it feels like windows? or the codification of programs are all different?
Please help me, becaus if there is not many apps, I will choose by the HTC HD7 or IPHONE(even without QUERTY)
Thanks
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If you like wimo, you'll absolutely love ANDROID. Wimo blows goat chunks. You can do more with Android, look at smartphone market share... wimo is barely a blip... counted in the "other". Android is #1, even making RIM look foolish now. There's a REASON for it.... absolute and unquestionable superiority.

I came from WinMo on a Touch Pro 2 to Android on the DZ. And you couldn't pay me to go back, I love the combination of DZ/Android ! It's vastly superior. WP7 looks cool but it's very very new and seems to be lacking a lot of stuff (bear in mind that the devs are still trying to figure out how to do custom ROMs on WP7).

Thinking of getting WP7

Is the OS Good? What can you do on it e.g. hack? Is there jailbreaking? Any Custom ROMS?
Thanks.
Was on Andorid what does it compare like if any one has tried best of both worlds/

dont buy a windows 7 phone buy the htc hd2 same proccesor much more customisible i have the htc trophy and it is the worst phone i bought.i had the htc tytn ii and it was much better apart from the camara and proccesor.

andoridkiller said:
Is the OS Good? What can you do on it e.g. hack? Is there jailbreaking? Any Custom ROMS?
Thanks.
Was on Andorid what does it compare like if any one has tried best of both worlds/
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Hi, mate.
If you want customizable, buy an android. But if you want some phone that you could not change anything to, buy a trophy. except the main screen, where you can change the big icons in any order you want, the rest stays where it is. nothing can be changed ...... but there's one thing great about this win 7: everything is where it should be and it's very easy to use. Yes, to turn on or off wifi i have to press 5 times, for instance. But if you play with it for 1 or 2 days you'll see that it's a very easy device to play with .... everything is one click away .
I have a desire (wife using it for the moment) and i'm not sure i'll get back on desire after had this trophy for a week.
Good luck.
G.

I have both devices. HTC Trophy's performance it better than a WP7 rom flashed on an HD2. I like both devices but the Trophy is my #1!
My wife uses the HD2 now...also with a WP7 rom flashed on it (She likes the simplicity and metro-ui with live-tiles)
If you get a trophy make sure it's developer unlocked before upgrading to NODO via Zune. That way it is still unlocked with NODO installed and you can sideload apps.

help needed to choose between HD2 and HD7

Hello guys,
I am going to University of Waterloo, Canada, to study software engineering this fall. I currently own a xperia x10i but i have found out that it wont be able to work in Canada due to network band compatibility issues.
Hence i am gonna switch over to WIND telecom and purchase the 29CAD/mo student plan.
I basically now want to use a windows phone. Would you recommend me to get the HD7 or the HD2?
if Windows 8 ever comes out, then will it run on the HD2 or HD7? I intend to keep this phone for a minimum 3 years.
One more thing that should be kept in mind is that the normal hd2 WONT work with WIND network bands. Only the T mobile version works on WIND.
The same case is valid for the T-mobile version of HD7.
I also like customizing and flashing different ROMs etc, HD2 is undoubtedly the best HACKER friendly phone in current times, since android,ubuntu, wm7,meegoo etc have been ported to it. Will the HD7 also be like HD2 in the near future?
To summarize my requirements, i would like to use Windows mobile, preferably windows 7 (fully functioning or important things working like marketplace, browser, wifi, xbox) for a span of 3 years.
Also the device should not lag much.
Please help me choose between the HD2 and HD7.
Cheers!
Vito

If you want windows phone take an hd7. But it won‘t get all the developement the hd2 has. You also have to remember that the hd2 is already 2 years old. Developement decreases and many devs already switched to a newer phone. But if you‘re into flashing the hd2 is king.
I would take the hd7 if you want to use wp and the hd2 if you want android or an outdated winmo.

rauschkugl said:
If you want windows phone take an hd7. But it won‘t get all the developement the hd2 has. You also have to remember that the hd2 is already 2 years old. Developement decreases and many devs already switched to a newer phone. But if you‘re into flashing the hd2 is king.
I would take the hd7 if you want to use wp and the hd2 if you want android or an outdated winmo.
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well yes i would sometimes like to use android, but will the hd2 have full windows 7 capabilites?

Vito Andolini Corleone said:
well yes i would sometimes like to use android, but will the hd2 have full windows 7 capabilites?
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It already does, we're just waiting for a cleaned-up working Mango build.

Well that's awesome! Is it true that the hd2 is faster than hd7?
Will the cleaned up hd2 perform better than hd7? Btw from your point of view by seeing the pros and cons if both phones which one do you recommend?
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It already does, we're just waiting for a cleaned-up working Mango build.
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Vito Andolini Corleone said:
Well that's awesome! Is it true that the hd2 is faster than hd7?
Will the cleaned up hd2 perform better than hd7? Btw from your point of view by seeing the pros and cons if both phones which one do you recommend?
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HD7 will perform WP7 better than the HD2 always.
HD2 has the "multi-touch bug" (where if you don't put both fingers at exactly the same time, multi-touch won't work).
HD7 also has better battery life.
If you really want perfect WP7, get an HD7. For me, I want Android too much to ever get a WP7-only device. I use and like Android more, but I do reboot into WP7 sometimes, and it's a good experience when I do.

Vito Andolini Corleone said:
Hello guys,
I am going to University of Waterloo, Canada, to study software engineering this fall. I currently own a xperia x10i but i have found out that it wont be able to work in Canada due to network band compatibility issues.
Hence i am gonna switch over to WIND telecom and purchase the 29CAD/mo student plan.
I basically now want to use a windows phone. Would you recommend me to get the HD7 or the HD2?
if Windows 8 ever comes out, then will it run on the HD2 or HD7? I intend to keep this phone for a minimum 3 years.
One more thing that should be kept in mind is that the normal hd2 WONT work with WIND network bands. Only the T mobile version works on WIND.
The same case is valid for the T-mobile version of HD7.
I also like customizing and flashing different ROMs etc, HD2 is undoubtedly the best HACKER friendly phone in current times, since android,ubuntu, wm7,meegoo etc have been ported to it. Will the HD7 also be like HD2 in the near future?
To summarize my requirements, i would like to use Windows mobile, preferably windows 7 (fully functioning or important things working like marketplace, browser, wifi, xbox) for a span of 3 years.
Also the device should not lag much.
Please help me choose between the HD2 and HD7.
Cheers!
Vito
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you choose HD2 (windows mobile - android - windows phone - ubuntu)

Vito Andolini Corleone said:
To summarize my requirements, i would like to use Windows mobile, preferably windows 7 (fully functioning or important things working like marketplace, browser, wifi, xbox) for a span of 3 years.
Also the device should not lag much.
Please help me choose between the HD2 and HD7.
Cheers!
Vito
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You will never be able to run Windows 7 or 8 on any current phone.
If you want to use Windows Mobile, then you need to choose the HD2 or another Windows Mobile device.
If you want to use Windows Phone, then you should choose a native WP7 device to avoid the touchscreen bug and unlock lag.

android is also beeing portet for the hd7. there were vids around ages ago and now rspl for windows phones was released. so you will also get custom roms.
i think if you want to use wp7 as your main os you should take the hd7.

rauschkugl said:
android is also beeing portet for the hd7. there were vids around ages ago and now rspl for windows phones was released. so you will also get custom roms.
i think if you want to use wp7 as your main os you should take the hd7.
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I wouldn't be so sure...
Cotulla said:
for LEO - yes. about WP7F, we have some experiments and runnning some MAGLDR version on Gold and Mozart, but not sure how deep it will go.
because this devices are not so lucky as LEO, some things make stuffs difficult, like external audio codec and other ril interface. Last thing can stop porting for a long time. time will show truth but I can't promise anything.
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Dude you won't believe I'm going to Waterloo this year and I'm in the same dilemma as you!
Btw, I'm going in Computer Engineering, and I probably going for the HD2 cause it gives me more time to play around, reason it's so widely hacked..

[Q]HD2 or Trophy?

Hi guys,
I have a HTC Trophy which I am thinking of selling so I can buy a HD2 to install WP7 and/or Android, as a fun project kind of thing.
I already have a HD2 with WM 6.5.5 on it, but I'm REALLY reluctant to replace it because of Garmin and Tomtoms (The newer phones just don't have equivalent substitutes).
On the Trophy portion, I'm kinda thinking of putting custom ROM on it, but after reading that I need to use the goldcard method kinda makes me want to forget about the whole deal (I already have a full unlocked Focus 1.3)
So my question is, should I keep the Trophy or should I trade it with a HD2?

UranusHertz said:
Hi guys,
I have a HTC Trophy which I am thinking of selling so I can buy a HD2 to install WP7 and/or Android, as a fun project kind of thing.
I already have a HD2 with WM 6.5.5 on it, but I'm REALLY reluctant to replace it because of Garmin and Tomtoms (The newer phones just don't have equivalent substitutes).
On the Trophy portion, I'm kinda thinking of putting custom ROM on it, but after reading that I need to use the goldcard method kinda makes me want to forget about the whole deal (I already have a full unlocked Focus 1.3)
So my question is, should I keep the Trophy or should I trade it with a HD2?
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definately the hd2 !!
i would choose the hd2 over the trophy anytime ! !!!
you can use 1 hd2 with android ics and 1 with wp 7.5 !! !!

Hmm... That would mean I would lose the WM 6.5.5 and my nav apps.

UranusHertz said:
Hmm... That would mean I would lose the WM 6.5.5 and my nav apps.
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you can have wm 6.5.5 on one and android or wp mango on another one !!
!!
your phones your choice !