i got a text today that im att top 5% data user so they slowed down my data speed to like 3g wtf is this legal
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I have been throttled for the last 2 weeks now. I think its a bunch of BS and now most of my apps barely work now cuz my speeds are so low. I tried to contact a class action law firm and it wouldn't even send cuz my speeds are so low at times. I'll try again today but I personally don't think its legal
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Fwiw, i was throttled 3 weeks into my billing period. My usage was 1.7 gigabytes (remember, over the first3 weeks of the billing cycle) at that point.
My normal down speeds range 1.5-4mbps. Now, I am throttled down to 150kbps.
Like the last poster, lots of apps are unusable and essentially has left me without data for most uses besides basic weboage viewing. This has happened the last 3 months and I have reduced my usage in fear of this the last 2. I think its BS that Im being throttled for 1.7 gigabytes of use 3/4s of the way through my billing period and I expect to just keep getting throttled every month til I disconnect att.
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1.7 gig, that's crazy
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Before you go calling in the calvalry, I recommend reading your terms of service.. Not the ones that GayT&T gave you when you signed up, but the ones that currently apply. They always put a clause in there stating they can change the rules and whatnot you agree on, so get the latest. THEN.. have a law-savvy individual give it a once-over. These companies change their terms in order to "improve services" for everyone. This means that they may want to throttle your bandwidth in order to provide more to others while they enhance their network coverage. Basically, their network is flooded and overwhelmed with traffic and they cant keep up.. However, in my opinion, they have way more money than us and can make these upgrades as needed. Stating they cannot is basically saying "we want more money and dont care till we lose customers". I have ran into this rut a few times with cellular providers, and I honestly see no way to easily deal with it besides getting service with no contract. Providers dislike this, but it opens new means to reasonable service over time as masses change service. And as far as a lawsuit, if you find the nugget of gold to get you to win, screw a class-action lawsuit. Do it yourself with a lawyer, because it's a huge gamble either way, but the payoff will be significantly more doing it solo... Or, you can go with a class-action suit and get 10 bucks out of it. At least your point would get across..
I was also in the to 5% the last two months and am throttled. There is a thread about this in every att phone forum on xda. Total bull**** is what it is.
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wow,
Must be with the 2gig users and up, because me and my wife are on the 200MB plan, and each month i come very close, to it, like 189mb give or take each month, all i get is a txt saying your close to your limit. but i never get throttled.
must be since 200MB isnt crap. for me, thats like 2 web pages lol.
I did go over once, by like 1 MB and i got charged another $15.00 , as*holes. but i am not paying an extra $$$ for the 2 gigs, when most of the time, there are wifis all over so. data is getting cheaper and cheaper, and so far sprint is the truly unlimited. But there service sux. so im sticking with att. but everyone will go to unlimited. I dont mind unlimited with throttling a little but down to only 150-250kbs, is crap. If im not using my data, and im not in a wifi area, i just turn the data part off. Im not a huge facebook fan, and I only update apps etc, when im on a wifi. so. but there are alot of people out there that update there freakbook stats every time they take a dump.
The only time u should be getting throttled is if u go over by ALOT. but hey, AT&T is getting alot of money for those who go over. so why do they care.
**** att and they're dirty business practices. Anyone with unlimited data is getting emails about being in the top 5% of data usage and then throttle us to the point where the phone is useless. There response is use wifi, wtf I'm suppose to stay home when i use my phone? I will be joining the class action law suit with many other pissed off customers.
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Here is your Ferrari sir with unlimited gas. You can only drive it 5 miles per hour though.
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im going to sprint f*** this they getting the nexus
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wow,
Must be with the 2gig users and up, because me and my wife are on the 200MB plan, and each month i come very close, to it, like 189mb give or take each month, all i get is a txt saying your close to your limit. but i never get throttled.
must be since 200MB isnt crap. for me, thats like 2 web pages lol.
I did go over once, by like 1 MB and i got charged another $15.00 , as*holes. but i am not paying an extra $$$ for the 2 gigs, when most of the time, there are wifis all over so. data is getting cheaper and cheaper, and so far sprint is the truly unlimited. But there service sux. so im sticking with att. but everyone will go to unlimited. I dont mind unlimited with throttling a little but down to only 150-250kbs, is crap. If im not using my data, and im not in a wifi area, i just turn the data part off. Im not a huge facebook fan, and I only update apps etc, when im on a wifi. so. but there are alot of people out there that update there freakbook stats every time they take a dump.
The only time u should be getting throttled is if u go over by ALOT. but hey, AT&T is getting alot of money for those who go over. so why do they care.
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I'm pretty sure Throttling is only for unlimited users. If you go over your 200 MB they'll happily charge you the overage and keep serving more.
As an aside, if you're on the 200 MB plan you can go online and change your data plan for the billing period when you go over and backdate it to the beginning of the month. then change it after the billing cycle is up.
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Here is your Ferrari sir with unlimited gas. You can only drive it 5 miles per hour though.
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A better ananlogy would be, "you can drive it as fast as you want for the first 5 miles."
I don't see a class-action suit being successful here. The contract is for unlimited data, not for unlimited data at maximum speed. If AT&T can show that a small percentage of users are using an extraordinarily high percentage of overall bandwidth, throttling may be seen as a legitimate answer to improve overall network performance.
Although, a case like this would never make it to trial. AT&T would settle and anybody who was throttled will likely get a couple dollars. AT&T would continue to throttle.
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wow,
Must be with the 2gig users and up, because me and my wife are on the 200MB plan, and each month i come very close, to it, like 189mb give or take each month, all i get is a txt saying your close to your limit. but i never get throttled.
must be since 200MB isnt crap. for me, thats like 2 web pages lol.
I did go over once, by like 1 MB and i got charged another $15.00 , as*holes. but i am not paying an extra $$$ for the 2 gigs, when most of the time, there are wifis all over so. data is getting cheaper and cheaper, and so far sprint is the truly unlimited. But there service sux. so im sticking with att. but everyone will go to unlimited. I dont mind unlimited with throttling a little but down to only 150-250kbs, is crap. If im not using my data, and im not in a wifi area, i just turn the data part off. Im not a huge facebook fan, and I only update apps etc, when im on a wifi. so. but there are alot of people out there that update there freakbook stats every time they take a dump.
The only time u should be getting throttled is if u go over by ALOT. but hey, AT&T is getting alot of money for those who go over. so why do they care.
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im going to sprint f*** this they getting the nexus
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Sprint has the WORST coverage of all of the carriers (I tried them ALL last year), at the very least in my area they are the worst. Also, dont buy into there lies about not throttling, SPRINT THROTTLES there is no doubt about that. Also Sprint advertises a good price, but its also a lie, they charge an extra $10 that they don't mention just because. There unlimited plan costs $100+ (regardless of what they advertise, when you get the bill you will see I assure you, I have been there) and on Att I pay slightly less than $100 for much better service. I am not always happy with Att, in fact most of the time I am unhappy with them, but I'm definitely not going to take a step back to Sprint, a more expensive service with less coverage. At least when Att lies they use some inventive techniques like "The Atrix is capable of HSPA", thats not a lie, but it seams unethical. When Sprint lies they just flat out lie. They lie about their prices. They lie about throttling. The CEO goes on thier commercials and straight up lies to the whole country saying they don't throttle, then tells Forbes the truth. Hopefully you hear my warning and avoid Sprint like the plague, but if you choose to do business with them you will see for yourself soon enough.
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A better ananlogy would be, "you can drive it as fast as you want for the first 5 miles."
I don't see a class-action suit being successful here. The contract is for unlimited data, not for unlimited data at maximum speed. If AT&T can show that a small percentage of users are using an extraordinarily high percentage of overall bandwidth, throttling may be seen as a legitimate answer to improve overall network performance.
Although, a case like this would never make it to trial. AT&T would settle and anybody who was throttled will likely get a couple dollars. AT&T would continue to throttle.
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Agreed.
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I'm pretty sure Throttling is only for unlimited users. If you go over your 200 MB they'll happily charge you the overage and keep serving more.
As an aside, if you're on the 200 MB plan you can go online and change your data plan for the billing period when you go over and backdate it to the beginning of the month. then change it after the billing cycle is up.
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I agree they are only throttling the unlimited users. I had that problem till I switched plans (actually they forced the switch, but that is another long thread in itself). Once I got to a metered plan, they stopped throttling, and were more than happy to charge for data overages.
ATT still thinks that customer service is to give you as little as possible based on their outdated infastructure instead of updating\modernizing and providing the customer what they want. They still can't figure whether to update their existing equipment for 3g, or go with LTE, so they are trying to do both. Two years now they been touting 3g and still have about the slowest data speeds, nowhere near what the 3g is supposed to be.
If we as individuals had the power to sue them, they would be more inclined to attempt to meet customer demands and stop the false advertising. Thank congress for taking away the right to sue.
So they offer a 2GB plan and a 4GB plan, and then they turn around and try and claim that someone using less than 2GB is among the top 5%!?
I call BS on that and that could be the only hope for a class action suit; make at&t prove the data usage they claim. With netflix and youtube and all sorts of streaming services there is no way that 1.7GB puts you in the top 5%.
By the way, I'm at 1.8GB about halfway through my billing period on normal usage for me and I have never been throttled yet.
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By the way, I'm at 1.8GB about halfway through my billing period on normal usage for me and I have never been throttled yet.
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It's top 5% in your market. I feel sorry for those in retirement communities.
thats what really gets me going about some of these carriers, i'm on a unlimited plan with verizon but am careful not to overdo it, keep hearing cases of people getting throttled etc...its seems to me unlimted should never be limited, perhaps we need to hand them a dictionary
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It's top 5% in your market. I feel sorry for those in retirement communities.
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what happens if you travel alot?
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what happens if you travel alot?
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I'm assuming it's still your home market and I'm guessing that has something to do with the FCC and how they are getting away with it. There's a lot of rules that pertain to your market. I read a little about it when trying to port two lines over that were from different markets. Couldn't happen, was only able to keep one of the numbers.
I had the same problem a few months back.
Speculation from a lower division rep is that they're trying to push everyone who has the unlimited data to tier plans because as far as I know, a lot of users with unlimited who have gotten the top 5% warning in the past are getting capped around 2GB
I spoke with an upper division rep and this is what they said, and this is not word for word:
If you get flagged once as a top 5% user, you will stay flagged indefinitely. This means that whenever you reach the top 5% (I asked, not specified as to how that works considering every one has a different billing cycle and top 5% of which users, unlimited or every one, or every one that is flagged), you will get reduced speeds.
For those with unlimited who have never been flagged and reach past 2GB will not be flagged unless they deem you a serious data user.
How they define top 5% is not specific, but is based on their "research".
Now you're thinking if less and less people want to get capped, they'll use less data, and therefore the top data usage number will change, that sounds exactly like what they're trying to do. I asked about that, but she said she has no idea about how they actually do the capping except once you're flagged, you're flagged, especially since you're getting capped around 2GB.
Just letting you guys know the facts I got from the CSR and their supervisor.
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I jsut read about this on engadget app. They said there was a clause in the new EVO4g contract stating that Sprint, at any time, may throttle data usuage. Meaning that they are going to cut it back or limit it somehow. That sounds like they following the AT&T route, to me.
I don't own an Evo yet, but my father has one. I was thinkn about switching back to Sprint. I haven't been with them in almmost 10yrs. They didn't have any unlimited plan back then. Anyways, lol, Sprint has good deals and unlimited plans now. I'm soo stuck on what I want to do. Either wait for Dell Streak on my current carrier, AT&T, or jump ship to Sprint and get the new EVO. My father loves the fact of being able to video chat thru Fring, which I put him on to. . Lol. He said it wrks great. So I'm at a crossroads of what I want to get. Then now sprint talkin bout cutting back data. Damn. I need unlimited, like I have now. I stay with carrier, I'm grandfathered in, as far as unlimited data goes. Even if I upgrade to the dell streak. I'm worried now that sprint gonna end their unlimited data. So I guess I better hurry in decide b4 the transition takes effect.
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demandarin said:
I jsut read about this on engadget app. They said there was a clause in the new EVO4g contract stating that Sprint, at any time, may throttle data usuage. Meaning that they are going to cut it back or limit it somehow. That sounds like they following the AT&T route, to me.
I don't own an Evo yet, but my father has one. I was thinkn about switching back to Sprint. I haven't been with them in almmost 10yrs. They didn't have any unlimited plan back then. Anyways, lol, Sprint has good deals and unlimited plans now. I'm soo stuck on what I want to do. Either wait for Dell Streak on my current carrier, AT&T, or jump ship to Sprint and get the new EVO. My father loves the fact of being able to video chat thru Fring, which I put him on to. . Lol. He said it wrks great. So I'm at a crossroads of what I want to get. Then now sprint talkin bout cutting back data. Damn. I need unlimited, like I have now. I stay with carrier, I'm grandfathered in, as far as unlimited data goes. Even if I upgrade to the dell streak. I'm worried now that sprint gonna end their unlimited data. So I guess I better hurry in decide b4 the transition takes effect.
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That is all rumor, the picture isnt even the entire article. The terms and conditions already have data throttling in it, it says anything over 5GB would be throttled on any mifi/modem/phone as modem plans. NOTHING about the EVO 4g being throttled, other than the Engadget article gear twards it.
According to the Terms and Conditions online they already have it in there that they can limit any phone as modem data > 5GB a month. It also says that they CAN AND WILL change any plan data/service/ anything at any time, but scrolling down further says that if any change adversely affects you, you may call in and cancel without ETF's within 30 days of notice.
Right now, you really can't beat the EVO in terms of features.
As far as cost goes, I would say it is on par with most of the other carriers, give or take 10 dollars/mo.
I guess it really boils down to how good of service you are getting.
I just switched over from Tmo after 10 years, I think they were resting on their laurels. I don't have one bad thing to say about Tmo though. But I really had to have the EVO and it was worth the $10 dollars a month "Premium". After all is said and done, its about the same price as my G1 in terms of contract costs.
One bonus is that I will probably be able to drop my Brighthouse cable in a few month when 4G hits this area. I know there is rumors about a Cap, but I was told it was unlimited and that was the whole point of the extra 10 dollars month.
My Tmo plan was $89.99 for Unlimited Everything and My current Sprint Plan is $69.99 + $10 Premium (Only 450 Minutes to Landlines). Its a little awkward, but realistically, it works out for me. And If I find the real need for more landlines minutes, then it will just put me back on par with Tmo.
I just hope their service has improved from times past. I know Sprint and Nextel get no love around these parts (Tampa, FL).
I jsut read about this on engadget app. They said there was a clause in the new EVO4g contract stating that Sprint, at any time, may throttle data us
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That is all rumor, the picture isnt even the entire article. The terms and conditions already have data throttling in it, it says anything over 5GB would be throttled on any mifi/modem/phone as modem plans. NOTHING about the EVO 4g being throttled, other than the Engadget article gear twards it.
According to the Terms and Conditions online they already have it in there that they can limit any phone as modem data > 5GB a month. It also says that they CAN AND WILL change any plan data/service/ anything at any time, but scrolling down further says that if any change adversely affects you, you may call in and cancel without ETF's within 30 days of notice.
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Thnkx for clearing that up. Now I know the details. I have a feelin ima be jumping ship soon. Iphone4 is cool but not cooler thn Evo. ;-) I now need 4 in. Or betta..lmao.
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Brutal-Force said:
I just hope their service has improved from times past. I know Sprint and Nextel get no love around these parts (Tampa, FL).
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I'm in Tampa and I am mostly in the Brandon, Plant City, and Temple terrace areas and I can tell you I am loving sprint. I switched from TMO with my Nexus One. I had decent 3g with TMO but not everywhere and when I did have 3g average was getting 500 - 600kbps on average and never above 1100kbps. Well since switching to sprint not once have I dropped 3g and I average 800 to 1100kbps and occasionally I will hit 2200 - 2400kbps. From my experience Sprint 3g is a lot faster than TMO and much better signal in the area.
Throttling is better than overage charging. I'd be really surprised if their limit is the same as AT&T's before overages (2GB). I'm holding out hope that they'll stick to 5GB.
Also, I bet the throttling cap is either higher on 4G or non-existent.
I applaud carriers that protect their non-abusive customers from the abusive ones that download torrent's/youtube/pandora 24-7.
I couldn't imagine how bad the network might get if Sprint did not do this and everyone could then replace their home WiFi internet with the mobile hotspot feature. 5gb is more than enough for any customer out there. The one's that cry "but...but...but... we signed up for unlimited! Waaahhh!!!" are the ones abusing the system.
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I applaud carriers that protect their non-abusive customers from the abusive ones that download torrent's/youtube/pandora 24-7.
I couldn't imagine how bad the network might get if Sprint did not do this and everyone could then replace their home WiFi internet with the mobile hotspot feature. 5gb is more than enough for any customer out there. The one's that cry "but...but...but... we signed up for unlimited! Waaahhh!!!" are the ones abusing the system.
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i totally agree with you!
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i totally agree with you!
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But I did sign up for unlimited... Though I do agree with sprints throttling, only if it starts at 5gb+ for 3g and they remove the overage charges for 5gb+
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But I did sign up for unlimited... Though I do agree with sprints throttling, only if it starts at 5gb+ for 3g and they remove the overage charges for 5gb+
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Engadget updated the article and its only regarding business accounts where the businesses want to slow down excessive use on their employees
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ap3604 said:
I applaud carriers that protect their non-abusive customers from the abusive ones that download torrent's/youtube/pandora 24-7.
I couldn't imagine how bad the network might get if Sprint did not do this and everyone could then replace their home WiFi internet with the mobile hotspot feature. 5gb is more than enough for any customer out there. The one's that cry "but...but...but... we signed up for unlimited! Waaahhh!!!" are the ones abusing the system.
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i totally agree with you!
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It's true what they say... great mind's think alike
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Engadget updated the article and its only regarding business accounts where the businesses want to slow down excessive use on their employees
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God I hate Engadget
They had better have a ....accurate display for the data measurer. Maybe new phones will having a shocking synaptic feedback. .. the more data, the more voltage..
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They had better have a ....accurate display for the data measurer. Maybe new phones will having a shocking synaptic feedback. .. the more data, the more voltage..
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But think of the battery life! i don't want to it already hurts so bad, and it'll hurt 2x if i got shocked and because of that battery life took a dive
Yep re-read their article about it. I hands down owned them in their speculation and they then updated their article. Engadget blows.
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Yep re-read their article about it. I hands down owned them in their speculation and they then updated their article. Engadget blows.
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remind me to not trust anything engadget says anymore, they have had more and more false posts lately
All Engadget did was post a REAL picture with REAL clauses from the Sprint service agreement. All the hoopla was caused by tools who think with their emotions instead of their brains. *cough*
Sorry...but stupid opinion
You either offer unlimited and honor it or like ATT cap it. It is a rip off when you label it "unlimited" and then throttle it.
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I applaud carriers that protect their non-abusive customers from the abusive ones that download torrent's/youtube/pandora 24-7.
I couldn't imagine how bad the network might get if Sprint did not do this and everyone could then replace their home WiFi internet with the mobile hotspot feature. 5gb is more than enough for any customer out there. The one's that cry "but...but...but... we signed up for unlimited! Waaahhh!!!" are the ones abusing the system.
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Personally, I would much prefer to have my data speed throttled (after reaching the 5gb cap) than to be charged extra to go over it. Perhaps have this as a choice, though, for those who need the extra speed? Seems like a much better option to me rather than only having 2GB and getting charged twice as much to go over it (even slightly).
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You either offer unlimited and honor it or like ATT cap it. It is a rip off when you label it "unlimited" and then throttle it.
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Um, every cellular carrier in the US caps their data usage. Ever since the inclusion of unlimited data plans, they've all been capped at 5GB/month, up until AT&T decided it would be "smarter" to lower the cap to 2GB (while barely lowering prices - half the usage should be HALF THE PRICE, MORONS).
They use the term "unlimited" as a PR term, not a literal one. When was the last time you hit 5GB on a cell phone? You really have to work at it, or try to replace your home internet service with it. It's practically unlimited, because it's such a hard gate to hit.
It's like Boost Mobile claiming to have unlimited web; sure, it's unlimited, but good luck using it.
me no likey, especially being a leo user since April that was forced to sign an "unlimited" data plan...
unlimited to 5g...lol.
Okay? Seriously it's not that big of a deal, just cut back on data usage.
hardly spazzing out, just a bit peeved that the answer to lack of towers is to alter the service I am paying for and deserve.
rightly so per my contract...
maybe allow previous contracts expire that were signed before the throttling?
nah, for my $300 phone, and mandatory $30 month plan I deserve to be punished for assuming that the netty netzorz would be "unlimited".
it's not as if I want a red ferrari or one night with Angelina Jolie er nuthin'.
(this phone sees more net tham my p.c. btw)
tmo since 2005.
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Okay? Seriously it's not that big of a deal, just cut back on data usage.
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actually that's Tmo's answer to the problem instead of erecting more towers and honoring the contract I signed back in April...
"Sir, it's your fault we're too cheap to erect more towers, use less internet plz."
you missed your calling as a tmo phone jockey!
Agreed, we signed for a specific amount on our data plans. Now I hear I'm going to have half the data limit I signed for.
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Your data is still unlimited, you'll just be throttled to a slower speed once you exceed 5gb. So likely no different to the unlimited data you had before 3g was in existence.
I still think TMO's tiering/caping is the most reasonable in the industry. At least they aren't flat out cutting you off or hitting you up to pay for another 2gb bucket like other carriers. Though maybe an option to pay up to lift the cap would be a nice option for heavy users, but that might go down the slippery slope of them going that route and being like ATT rather than the throttling they are doing now
What would actually be nice is if they didnt just flat out throttle you at 5gb but throttle you with bursting ability. that way loading the quick email or light web page will still be snappy, but if you attempt any streaming or large downloads then you get throttled down.
What im curious about that hasn't been covered much is exactly what speed do you get throttled down to? do you still get 3g coverage, just throttled. or does the throttling turn off your ability yo use the 3g signals, leaving you stuck with edge coverage?
I may just have to test it out this billing cycle, and do some very large downloads the last couple days of my billing cycle and try to hit 5gb a couple days before my cycle resets and see just how bad it gets.
Although it blows to be the "victim" of a traditional "bait & switch" by a faceless corporation, I am still 3G but downloading pages at minimum 5+ seconds slower.
Terrible? No.
Unexpected due to expectations of "unlimited" use per my 2 year contract? Yup.
I realize that OTHER providers/carriers have always capped, but um, I am not with other providers/carriers.
Tmo advertised..."UNLIMITED NET USAGE" and as a paying client who signed a contract I expect to get what I originally signed up for.
Imho I'm not demanding anything more than what I signed up for.
What good are contracts with tmo for anyways? A way for them to strongarm you into coping with their ever changing policies, or pay the ETF and have a nice life???
I really despise the "sukz to be you" policy that tmo is acquiring...
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Although it blows to be the "victim" of a traditional "bait & switch" by a faceless corporation, I am still 3G but downloading pages at minimum 5+ seconds slower.
Terrible? No.
Unexpected due to expectations of "unlimited" use per my 2 year contract? Yup.
I realize that OTHER providers/carriers have always capped, but um, I am not with other providers/carriers.
Tmo advertised..."UNLIMITED NET USAGE" and as a paying client who signed a contract I expect to get what I originally signed up for.
Imho I'm not demanding anything more than what I signed up for.
What good are contracts with tmo for anyways? A way for them to strongarm you into coping with their ever changing policies, or pay the ETF and have a nice life???
I really despise the "sukz to be you" policy that tmo is acquiring...
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Yeah i know it sucks as far as being stuck in a contract thinking you were getting one thing and getting something else
But as far as i see legally they are still holding up their end of the contract, you are still completely unlimited in your net access. They never advertised a set kbps or mbps of service they would provide. no internet provider does, unless youre talking about a leased business class line. All your home based broadband connections are advertised as "up to" whatever speed
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Yeah i know it sucks as far as being stuck in a contract thinking you were getting one thing and getting something else
But as far as i see legally they are still holding up their end of the contract, you are still completely unlimited in your net access. They never advertised a set kbps or mbps of service they would provide. no internet provider does, unless youre talking about a leased business class line. All your home based broadband connections are advertised as "up to" whatever speed
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I get it, in order to sign contracts with multi~billion dollar corporations, you must first hire a multi~billion dollar attorney to translate the fine print.
When did cellular providers get so powerful anyhow?
Oh yeah, when we decided to "let" them by shrugging off their whittling away at our rights as the clients who pour millions into their pockets.
I say more people should contest the slow and methodical "tweaking" that surely will lead to a big brother net situation.
yes.
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I get it, in order to sign contracts with multi~billion dollar corporations, you must first hire a multi~billion dollar attorney to translate the fine print.
When did cellular providers get so powerful anyhow?
Oh yeah, when we decided to "let" them by shrugging off their whittling away at our rights as the clients who pour millions into their pockets.
I say more people should contest the slow and methodical "tweaking" that surely will lead to a big brother net situation.
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But dude, you are still getting unlimited data... Plus, 5GB is like pornhub junky status. Ha. How much porn do you need on your phone?
Download movies on your computer maybe?
Either way, you can't argue that you aren't getting unlimited data because you in fact are. They aren't cutting off your data once you hit 5GB or charging you more money when you go over 5GB. How is this a breach of contract?
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But dude, you are still getting unlimited data... Plus, 5GB is like pornhub junky status. Ha. How much porn do you need on your phone?
Download movies on your computer maybe?
Either way, you can't argue that you aren't getting unlimited data because you in fact are. They aren't cutting off your data once you hit 5GB or charging you more money when you go over 5GB. How is this a breach of contract?
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Not a huge porn fan, but I do download a ****e ton of stuff from xda trying out all of the awesome cabs, and I do dig the youtube vidz of all things science/engineering/technology.
As far as arguing that my "unlimited" data plan is now "limited"to 5GB per month and how that is somehow not a breach of contract, well I am going to have to disagree with you.
The speed at which I agreed to pay for i.e. 3G, is slowed to less than DSL when I reach the recently altered terms set by Tmo concerning usage in a billing cycle.
If they are going to throttle my usage, they can also deduct that lost speed from my monthly bill.
In a nutshell, I am no longer getting what I signed up for 7 months ago but per my contract I am still expected to pay the same amount.
Or fork over mad cheddar to bail from the contract...don't know about you but it was $lightly terrifying for me $igning onto a premium package and a $et up like this for 2 more years.
Business expense, but still My Wife would be peeved to know it cost me $300 to pay another $300 for the ETF.
Money isn't my bestest friend...but dangit, Transformers looked SO good!!
My guess is that Tmo failed to prepare their network properly to meet the needs of the Fvckton of new clients that will rush into the HD7, and this was a hail Mary move. The timing seems about right in line with the upcoming release of the latest wondertoy.
I mean heck, what can anyone do? Complain? Whoopee, plenty of other tmo/xda members will pipe up and put them in their place.
amirite?
EDIT: I have 0 movies/music on my phone, never have.
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Not a huge porn fan, but I do download a ****e ton of stuff from xda trying out all of the awesome cabs, and I do dig the youtube vidz of all things science/engineering/technology.
As far as arguing that my "unlimited" data plan is now "limited"to 5GB per month and how that is somehow not a breach of contract, well I am going to have to disagree with you.
The speed at which I agreed to pay for i.e. 3G, is slowed to less than DSL when I reach the recently altered terms set by Tmo concerning usage in a billing cycle.
If they are going to throttle my usage, they can also deduct that lost speed from my monthly bill.
In a nutshell, I am no longer getting what I signed up for 7 months ago but per my contract I am still expected to pay the same amount.
Or fork over mad cheddar to bail from the contract...don't know about you but it was $lightly terrifying for me $igning onto a premium package and a $et up like this for 2 more years.
Business expense, but still My Wife would be peeved to know it cost me $300 to pay another $300 for the ETF.
Money isn't my bestest friend...but dangit, Transformers looked SO good!!
My guess is that Tmo failed to prepare their network properly to meet the needs of the Fvckton of new clients that will rush into the HD7, and this was a hail Mary move. The timing seems about right in line with the upcoming release of the latest wondertoy.
I mean heck, what can anyone do? Complain? Whoopee, plenty of other tmo/xda members will pipe up and put them in their place.
amirite?
EDIT: I have 0 movies/music on my phone, never have.
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Do you use 5GB of data each month? How long does it take you to get there. I use my phone a ton and I'm not even kinda close.
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Do you use 5GB of data each month? How long does it take you to get there. I use my phone a ton and I'm not even kinda close.
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All I do is use the internet a lot throughout the day looking at news and sports sites and my bill says I use 5GB a week. I don't download anything. Why buy a G2 if you just want to make phone calls?
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Do you use 5GB of data each month? How long does it take you to get there. I use my phone a ton and I'm not even kinda close.
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I recieved a text 3 days ago.
I browse the net, and post regularly on quite a few forums. The only thing I can think of that kills it is downloading the themes etc. from forums directly to the phone.
I checked my account and it reads 0 due to that pesky unlimited data plan, and tmo has no way of compiling my total usage into a nice round #. All they see on their system is my entire usage broken down into individual "visits" to the network. Yeah, I almost insisted that she break out the calcuator and get to addin'!
Like I said, they seem a bit out of their element having just launched this new system.
Not one rep could offer anything more than an apology for not having more info when I went through my list of straight forward, and comprehensive inquiries.
What bothers me, among other things is the lack of transparency on their part in the form of the inability to answer simple questions. How can I be sure that they are capping at 5gb, or find out what speed have I been lowered to?
For all I know they are making up the rules as we're plowing down this dark gravel road to unknown parts.
A free speedtest could offer better data than the company I am paying good money to, and that is pretty jacked up.
To answer your question, I have no idea how I hit 5gb 1 week shy of my billing cycle ending.
And with no way to keep tabs, it looks like my Leo will be collecting a bit more dust in the future...I'd hate to blow the cap 2 weeks in.
Youtube vids now take 4 min. to load a 56 sec. clip.
airoff8 said:
All I do is use the internet a lot throughout the day looking at news and sports sites and my bill says I use 5GB a week. I don't download anything. Why buy a G2 if you just want to make phone calls?
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Dayum, you got me beat!
This is one competition where I really don't mind being last...
How is your browsing experience with the throttling applied?
kidrythm said:
The speed at which I agreed to pay for i.e. 3G, is slowed to less than DSL when I reach the recently altered terms set by Tmo concerning usage in a billing cycle.
EDIT: I have 0 movies/music on my phone, never have.
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i guarantee that the contract you signed in no way states what speed of service they will provide. that would be impossible to tmobile to hold upto, what about all the people paying the same price for their data service as you, but they are stuck in areas still only served by edge or god forbid gprs service?
Yes these service areas still exist, i personally experienced them on a road trip over the summer. 1 bar of gprs service in a cabin in north mississippi is real fun. i guess by your logic tmobile owes me a billing credit because i couldn't get 3g service while on the road for a week
i really cant fathom how you exceed 5g without downloading movies/music on your phone
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i guarantee that the contract you signed in no way states what speed of service they will provide. that would be impossible to tmobile to hold upto, what about all the people paying the same price for their data service as you, but they are stuck in areas still only served by edge or god forbid gprs service?
Yes these service areas still exist, i personally experienced them on a road trip over the summer. 1 bar of gprs service in a cabin in north mississippi is real fun. i guess by your logic tmobile owes me a billing credit because i couldn't get 3g service while on the road for a week
i really cant fathom how you exceed 5g without downloading movies/music on your phone
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If I left an area where service was solid, that would be one thing.
I am in K.C. where the service rivals Sprint's due to their "campus" being located here.
3 1/2 bars since day 1, another "issue" I have...
No movies (not til I pony up for coreplayer), and as far as music, the speaker sux bawls on the Leo and earbuds irritate me.
Just regular usage rivaling that of my average daily p.c. surfing was before I got my htc hd2 set up.
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Plus, 5GB is like pornhub junky status. Ha. How much porn do you need on your phone?
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I'm surprised his privates didn't fall off before he hit 5GB
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I'm surprised his privates didn't fall off before he hit 5GB
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wow, thanks for posting.
"privates"?
being 11 years old is a confusing, and yet exciting time!
now run along the adults are talking.
Anyways, after that lasts dumb post. I agree with the others up top, with the data cap instated, you are still getting data, just at a slower rate. No where in your contract does it state that what speeds you will recieve using mobile data, only that your access to mobile data is unlimited.
Throttled at 10gb with 9 days left in cycle!! So sad. I got the text yesterday for the warning, and got the text today that I am throttled.
Speedtest confirms it, I usually pull 2-3 mb/s, and now at 159kb/s.
Sucks!!!
you should watch it dude. they throttled me, got about 1megabyte a second where i live, down to about 15kilobytes. They allowed me to do this for 3 months before they finally forced me onto a different plan. I am in the process of fighting for the unlimited back though. just a fair warning though, cut that **** down.
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you should watch it dude. they throttled me, got about 1megabyte a second where i live, down to about 15kilobytes. They allowed me to do this for 3 months before they finally forced me onto a different plan. I am in the process of fighting for the unlimited back though. just a fair warning though, cut that **** down.
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.. u got throttled 3 months in a row, and then they forced you onto a different plan ? are you ****ting me? holy crap.
this is such bull****.. they throttle you if you hit top 5% of users in your area... so eventually they force you to use much less data... then eventually everyone starts using less data, and then the 5% mark gets lower, so then your forced to use even LESSER data, and so on and so on. When is this going to stop? When everyone uses under 2GB?
i mean come on, seriously, WTF.
i mean it's a good measure to prevent people like you or me from using too much data. i mean, they don't expect you to use 10gbs on a mobile device. and I was pulling at least 30gbs monthly on a connection topping out at 1megabyte in my area (600-1000kilobytes per second usually). I don't blame them for throttling at all. I do blame them for thinking that I wasn't using all of that data on the mobile device. My data usage came pretty much from illegal piracy and random netflix and pandora sessions however they still believe it was from tethering so that's why i was knocked on that plan. It's hard to explain how all that data was being used w/o saying that I pirated a bunch of stuff during those months. so yeah, just be careful what you're doing with your phone, they will cut you off if you are consistently bad. If you can't take it, then switch networks to someone who offers inferior networks with unlimited data.
On the other hand. I live in California east bay... Have used1.5 gigs. I have received a warning that I'm nearing5%.. So I feel scammed.
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i mean it's a good measure to prevent people like you or me from using too much data. i mean, they don't expect you to use 10gbs on a mobile device. and I was pulling at least 30gbs monthly on a connection topping out at 1megabyte in my area (600-1000kilobytes per second usually). I don't blame them for throttling at all. I do blame them for thinking that I wasn't using all of that data on the mobile device. My data usage came pretty much from illegal piracy and random netflix and pandora sessions however they still believe it was from tethering so that's why i was knocked on that plan. It's hard to explain how all that data was being used w/o saying that I pirated a bunch of stuff during those months. so yeah, just be careful what you're doing with your phone, they will cut you off if you are consistently bad. If you can't take it, then switch networks to someone who offers inferior networks with unlimited data.
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Were you downloading movies on your phone? or streaming them from your PC? I use a ton of netflix and I have a few TV series that I stream from my PC.
My problem with being throttled is the way they are doing it.. the top 5% in your area will get throttled.
At first it may sound fair, heck, I live in MA where the top 5% puts me at 10 GB. but like i said.. once everyone starts bringing their data usage down, then the 5% cap is going to get smaller and smaller and smaller, then we'll have people getting throttled for using 1GB a month! You get what Im saying? It's BULL ****.
Eventually I will be switching carriers once the throttle point gets to about 5GB. Which.. given the way things are going, it would be about a year.
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On the other hand. I live in California east bay... Have used1.5 gigs. I have received a warning that I'm nearing5%.. So I feel scammed.
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See, this is exactly what's wrong with this set-up. You're not even close to the standard 2gb and already getting warnings about throttling.
This was all on my phone. Mostly when I'm put and about I'll start a p2p on my phone and it's usually done by the time I get home. Then I do alot of surfing and video playing on my phone as well. But yeah I can see where they suspect its off a tether its just hard to explain to them its not.
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well damn dude, I was just streaming tons of video from my home media server. I abuse my FiOS connection must like my ATT connection.
I just got off the phone with ATT. Throttling will always be determined by top 5% of users in the country. There is no number that is available to tell us what the top 5% will be, so we're just gonna be at the mercy of what everyone is using.
The rep couldn't tell me if the 5% took account just unlimited users or Tiered data users as well. Either way --- if the top 5% is using only 1gb, we are S.O.L.
I refuse to pay $60 for 5gb of tiered data, highway robbery.
I will continue to stream music as much as I can in an effort to raise the 5% cap for other users. otherwise, we're gonna get throttled at 1.5gb.
For the first time Ive been throttled at the 2gb mark. My data speeds at this time are between no data and 100 kbps. AT&T keeps telling me that is incorrect and that I should just wait the remaining week until my data cap resets. They were extremely kind enough to offer me a $30 for 3gb data plan.
Best analogy I can think of, several years after owning my car, Toyota calls me up one day and says: Hey jerk0ff, you now have two options:
1) drive as fast as you want as far as you want for 2 miles, after which you can only drive up to 10 mph every 30 days
2) drive as fast as you want for 3 miles then we charge you for every mile after that.
What a bunch of crooks. They keep telling me I shouldn't be experiencing data speeds being affected in any way other than video. Well, accessing google.com isnt video but it takes about a minute to load.
Frankly if you pay $30 and get throttled at 2 and they offer a $30 plan for 3 gigs you shouldn't be throttled until at least 3 gigs, probably not the news you want but hey you wouldn't be paying more over and you get just as much bang for your buck
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Frankly if you pay $30 and get throttled at 2 and they offer a $30 plan for 3 gigs you shouldn't be throttled until at least 3 gigs, probably not the news you want but hey you wouldn't be paying more over and you get just as much bang for your buck
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using throttling as a means to get people off unlimited plans isnt more bang for your buck. its just being dishonest. Google "ATT Data Throttling" and youll get storied of people at 1.6gb being throttled.
Here is their own forum: http://forums.att.com/t5/General-Ca...rottle-unlimited-data-plan-users/td-p/2815907
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using throttling as a means to get people off unlimited plans isnt more bang for your buck. its just being dishonest. Google "ATT Data Throttling" and youll get storied of people at 1.6gb being throttled.
Here is their own forum: http://forums.att.com/t5/General-Ca...rottle-unlimited-data-plan-users/td-p/2815907
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If you have one of their grandfathered unlimited plans, and they throttle you at 2GB, you should really consider getting a lawyer. What they are doing is in no way considered fair use.
Say there was a big prestigious race going on between 100 cars. These cars would be going around the track for 100 laps. Now imagine that at the end of each lap, the top five cars each had one of their tires flattened. If this kept up for the entire race, eventually every single car would have all of their tires flattened, and no one would enjoy the race.
This is what it's like to have throttled data on an "unlimited data" plan where they kick off the top users for abuse of the unlimited plan.
I know, mind = blown, right?
I spoke to someone this morning and went over the analogies which worked out since he had just bought a car yesterday.
He told me that its an obvious money push. and to just wait. How ****ty is at&t that even their own CSR know its a BS move? He also told me he doesnt understand the top 5% thing either.
pretty ****ty.
camelontherun said:
I spoke to someone this morning and went over the analogies which worked out since he had just bought a car yesterday.
He told me that its an obvious money push. and to just wait. How ****ty is at&t that even their own CSR know its a BS move? He also told me he doesnt understand the top 5% thing either.
pretty ****ty.
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This is why I dumped AT&T. I'm not okay with them being increasingly aggressive to force customers off their unlimited plans just because their network can't keep up with demand.
cajunflavoredbob said:
Say there was a big prestigious race going on between 100 cars. These cars would be going around the track for 100 laps. Now imagine that at the end of each lap, the top five cars each had one of their tires flattened. If this kept up for the entire race, eventually every single car would have all of their tires flattened, and no one would enjoy the race.
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Excellent analogy, if only I can tell the FIA something like this about their DRS and they would listen.
That's why I moved off of AT&T and onto Sprint. Unlimited data with no caps. Though Sprint's speeds are not the best against the other carriers, at least it is truly unlimited. Where I live, I get over 1 Mbps on 3G, which is good enough to stream YouTube videos in HQ on my phone (which is the most demanding data app I use anyways). Hopefully with Sprint's Network Vision coming to fruition in the next few years, their speeds should increase, but I'm hoping they don't end unlimited data because it is really their selling point and a way to steal customers from other carriers.
The number of articles about their dbaggery is getting quite large. Apparently even Verizon doesn't do a full month throttle. Just during times of congestion specifically
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How to unthrottle yourself:
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For the first time Ive been throttled at the 2gb mark. My data speeds at this time are between no data and 100 kbps. AT&T keeps telling me that is incorrect and that I should just wait the remaining week until my data cap resets. They were extremely kind enough to offer me a $30 for 3gb data plan.
Best analogy I can think of, several years after owning my car, Toyota calls me up one day and says: Hey jerk0ff, you now have two options:
1) drive as fast as you want as far as you want for 2 miles, after which you can only drive up to 10 mph every 30 days
2) drive as fast as you want for 3 miles then we charge you for every mile after that.
What a bunch of crooks. They keep telling me I shouldn't be experiencing data speeds being affected in any way other than video. Well, accessing google.com isnt video but it takes about a minute to load.
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Your lucky T-mobile cap you to 56K and they tell you is to edge,go do a speed test if you can,because it will take for ever,9 out of 10 pages would not load.
I am sure than if a judge see 2 phones one cap and another working normal it would not have any problem ruling that what they are doing is sabotaging or killing your line,nothing works but text and voice.
Leave them AT&T is the worst of all the companies,because bad practices,monopoly and screwing people up is what they have done for more than 100 years,so you know old habits die hard.
They charge you like $80 or more for 3GB when other companies offer you 5 for less,i don't like T-mobile policies either,but is the closes you will find that is great and cap you at 5GB for less money.
I went to sprint,but the speed are horrible,i actually yesterday for the first time tested wimax,and it was incredible compare to how slow is almost always,i got 7,000kb on speed test on wimax which is great for anything.
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How to unthrottle yourself:
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This is something i have been saying,they throttle unlimited plans,but don't throttle limited ones,because they make money on those people who go over the limit,the more you use the more they make,and like i say you can use 10GB and be the greatest impact to the network and they will not care because you are paying them a ton of cash extra.
I had another long conversation with AT&T today after having barely any data service for the past week even though I have the "unlimited" data plan. My billing cycle started 2/17 and they started to throttle me on 2/18 because I was in the top 5% of users.
AT&T claims I have used close to 6GB worth of data in the last 6 days, 3 days of which I was in an area with no service! My service won't be restored to normal until 3/17!!! She told me I should consider moving to another plan and thats after I accused them of trying to force people off their grand fathered unlimited plans, which she denied.
And their claim that I have service but that it's just slower is a load of bs. With a modern phone a certain amount of bandwidth is required and apparently I'm getting so little I can't access anything for hours at a time. The fact that I use my phone for work makes this completely unacceptable.
Install a traffic monitor to prove their lies. I pity you guys that have to put up with US operator madness.
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Is there a traffic monitor you recommend?
Onavo seems pretty good.. I don't use much data so I can't say how good long term it is.. It also lets you stop apps from accessing mobile data, and make them wifi only per individual app.
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Maybe its my area but I've never had my data service discontinued for X number of days. I have however received several letters from att stating my plan needs an upgrade (move from unlimited to their limited plans. upgrade my Arse) I actually had a rep tell me, it would be faster! lol.
I am grandfathered in on the unlimited data plan. and I generally use 10gb a month. The most I have ever used, in recent memory was 30gb. I got a tether notice once, called them to have them prove it (since i wasn't tethering). I never heard a response back.
I am a civilian contractor for the marines. When we go out on a training op, I bring my phone, a solar battery pack, and we watch Netflix, and a lot of it. lol.
songokussm: They tried the "honey" with their "upgrade to our faster plan" spiel. Now they are using the stick. They will now proceed to jerk you around until you either give in or quit them. Nice eh?
Moderator------Please note my phone is NOT AT&T I717. It's the unlocked version I purchase several months ago. Please move the post back to the correct forum. Thank you.
Maybe its my area but I've never had my data service discontinued for X number of days.
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They are not stopping my data service but they are making it so slow it rarely works.
Perhaps if you are heavy user you get on the **** list and they will may your service terrible. After all, they don't need or want you if you are a heavy user.
They would probably pay you to leave their service.
The only way to fight this would be to switch service.
I suggest you go to Verizon (until they kick you off)
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They are not stopping my data service but they are making it so slow it rarely works.
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There are some ways to get your speeds back, you should search these forums.
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Moderator------Please note my phone is NOT AT&T I717. It's the unlocked version I purchase several months ago. Please move the post back to the correct forum. Thank you.
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I would imagine he moved it because it's about AT&T service with the note.
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I had another long conversation with AT&T today after having barely any data service for the past week even though I have the "unlimited" data plan. My billing cycle started 2/17 and they started to throttle me on 2/18 because I was in the top 5% of users.
AT&T claims I have used close to 6GB worth of data in the last 6 days, 3 days of which I was in an area with no service! My service won't be restored to normal until 3/17!!! She told me I should consider moving to another plan and thats after I accused them of trying to force people off their grand fathered unlimited plans, which she denied.
And their claim that I have service but that it's just slower is a load of bs. With a modern phone a certain amount of bandwidth is required and apparently I'm getting so little I can't access anything for hours at a time. The fact that I use my phone for work makes this completely unacceptable.
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Those CSR's are probably trained to lie to customers calling in to complain about the throttling that applies to the unlimited. Unfortunately, the way they talk makes that rather obvious.
Besides, the corporate clearly wants to force as many people as possible onto tiered data...thinking the insanely heavy data users will go over their limit multiple times each month...to milk more money from them.
Dont give in, unlimited people, Dont give in......
Believe me I'm NOT giving in. I have a feeling AT&T is going to be feeling more heat on this issue.
I would consider going to Verizon for a number of reasons, including their service in my area is much better, but that would mean giving up the Note. Something I'm not prepared to do.
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Believe me I'm NOT giving in. I have a feeling AT&T is going to be feeling more heat on this issue.
I would consider going to Verizon for a number of reasons, including their service in my area is much better, but that would mean giving up the Note. Something I'm not prepared to do.
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I feel the same as well, doesnt make sense to throtlle unlimited people at 2gb but 3gb plan people dont get throttled at 2gb and essentially we are paying the same thing and for more.
#LAWSUITS #CREDIT #LAWSUITS #
you should prbly pm the mod
Can't you get around this by creating the new access point with the settings I saw elsewhere in this forum? Seems like that was working for other people.
Apn change works sometimes...
I just kept calling and complaining and now unthrottled...at least for the time being
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I downloaded Radioopt Traffic monitor earlier today and so far I've used 1GB today, almost all email! 430mb via wireless and 365mb via AT&T Data.
I have numerous email accounts but only two were set for frequent updates, one at every 5 minutes, one at every 30 minutes. I've adjusted them all to see if my usage goes down.
Att looses in data throttling case!
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/02/24/iphone_user_successfully_sues_att_over_3g_throttling.html