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Android 2.1 on Tattoo: Official answer HTC

Dear Mr. Francesco, Thank you for contacting our technical support. Our goal is' to offer a high quality service and answer all your questions. Recently we wrote about updating your device HTC Tattoo, I understand that, it is not 'provided an update to the Android version 2.1, however, your terminal will continue' to get technical support. The result of our research has shown that this modification could have a negative impact on the user experience. Therefore, HTC, decided that the update is not 'suggests. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Gentilissimo Sig. Francesco, Grazie per aver contattato il nostro supporto tecnico. Il nostro obiettivo e' offrirle un servizio di alta qualità e rispondere a tutte le sue domande. Recentemente ci ha scritto riguardo l’aggiornamento del Suo dispositivo HTC Tattoo, Le comunichiamo che, attualmente non e' previsto alcun aggiornamento alla versione Android 2.1, comunque il Suo terminale continuera' a ricevere supporto tecnico. Il risultato delle nostre ricerche, ha dimostrato che tale aggiornamento, potrebbe avere un impatto negativo sull'esperienza dell'utente. Pertanto, HTC, ha deciso che l'aggiornamento non e' suggeribile. La ringraziamo per la Sua pazienza e comprensione.

I've got a few emails like this off HTC. I think everyone has known there wasn't going to be an update for a long long time unfortunately.

sons of goats

franzuso said:
Dear Mr. Francesco, Thank you for contacting our technical support. Our goal is' to offer a high quality service and answer all your questions. Recently we wrote about updating your device HTC Tattoo, I understand that, it is not 'provided an update to the Android version 2.1, however, your terminal will continue' to get technical support. The result of our research has shown that this modification could have a negative impact on the user experience. Therefore, HTC, decided that the update is not 'suggests. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Gentilissimo Sig. Francesco, Grazie per aver contattato il nostro supporto tecnico. Il nostro obiettivo e' offrirle un servizio di alta qualità e rispondere a tutte le sue domande. Recentemente ci ha scritto riguardo l’aggiornamento del Suo dispositivo HTC Tattoo, Le comunichiamo che, attualmente non e' previsto alcun aggiornamento alla versione Android 2.1, comunque il Suo terminale continuera' a ricevere supporto tecnico. Il risultato delle nostre ricerche, ha dimostrato che tale aggiornamento, potrebbe avere un impatto negativo sull'esperienza dell'utente. Pertanto, HTC, ha deciso che l'aggiornamento non e' suggeribile. La ringraziamo per la Sua pazienza e comprensione.
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Bas*ards, why didn't they ask us in their "research" before they decided on that user experience crap. Bas*ards.

They just can't port their SenseUI to 2.1. LOL
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dront78 said:
They just can't port their SenseUI to 2.1. LOL
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I don't think they can't. They just want us to buy some wildfires

not gonna happen
I bought my tattoo less than 3 months ago and it's great! But since many people like me bought it when the people from frandroid leaked false info for an upcoming update htc should have decided to do it out of good will and marketing. Yet again even an up-to-date htc hero rom hasnt been released yet. Next htc prodct should be htc no update ir htc next quartee, etc.
*edit I guess they pushed a hero firmware upgrade after all
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NForce25 said:
I don't think they can't. They just want us to buy some wildfires
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absolutely

That's never gonna happen that I'll be buying another HTC product! Don't get me wrong: I loved my Tattoo, but even the best phone is useless without software support...
P.S.: And I bet my ass that they never did a research at all...there was never Tattoo software support by HTC (and after 2.2 the Wildfire will also "die")!

Have you tried kiljacken's 2.1 ROM with Sense UI? Tattoo really can't manage it... It runs way to slowly and unreliably.
That's why my next phone will be a virgin android, no sense, motoblur or whatever junk.
But if they really loved us they would release a kernel or basic 2.x ROM with camera support and no Sense junk and let us cannibalize it... but that'll never happen

HTC is maybe not supporting its customers, but they are no idiots to release a 2.x code for Tattoo

I write to HTC Few Days Ago and response was
Thank you for contacting us. In regards to Your email, I can help you with that. The updates have been sent out to all devices, please check with the network as to when they will be sending this out. however the devices have been made to check for updates every 14 days so thus meaning the update may be with you shortly depending on the last time it checked. I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required. Thank you for contacting HTC.

branorac said:
I write to HTC Few Days Ago and response was
Thank you for contacting us. In regards to Your email, I can help you with that. The updates have been sent out to all devices, please check with the network as to when they will be sending this out. however the devices have been made to check for updates every 14 days so thus meaning the update may be with you shortly depending on the last time it checked. I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required. Thank you for contacting HTC.
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this reponse of HTC is weired, it seems that they not talk about TATTOO, they talk generality... yesterday a receive a response of HTC that they don´t upgrade our phone to Android 2.1. i think this is a lie, for my sorry

I just wonder: what is in this 2.1 software that you want so much? You want your phone to run slower and drain battery faster? Donut is not so bad. I use it on my G1 after a bunch of Eclair ROMs and really like it. I'm even thinking of staying on 1.6.
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Ditto. HTC make good products, that can fall off beds and not smash unlike *cough*iPhones*cough* that just explode for no apparent reason. When it comes to support, it's like pulling your teeth out with a rusty pair of pliers. Very painful process and they end up tossing you into a creek without a paddle.

next,i want to buy other phone except HTC.

raven_raven said:
I just wonder: what is in this 2.1 software that you want so much? You want your phone to run slower and drain battery faster? Donut is not so bad. I use it on my G1 after a bunch of Eclair ROMs and really like it. I'm even thinking of staying on 1.6.
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I used one of the 2.1 ROM's from here, and it didn't drain the battery has fast as the stock 1.6 ROM. It was definitely faster and used lesser battery. So battery usage is not ROM specific, but manufacturer specific. If the manufacturer writes a ****ty code or makes too many apps run at the same time, it drains more battery.
Frankly, I don't want to buy another phone from HTC. I'll probably buy a Moto Droid next, though I don't like Moto phones.

hi
Moving this to General

Not official
A few thoughts on this.
First the thread title, this is not official. This is the main problem, HTC are bad at communicating with their customers (unless they are telling you what new product they have launched or what award they have won). Their 'technical support' are the front-line culprits. Their answers are very inconsistent, and a lot of the answers are guesses based on the internal rumour mill. The big rumour internet surge in March ("HTC confirm Tattoo getting 2.1) was due to the publication of a response from HTC technical support. Their head office marketing teams should be stopping this.
Secondly, I bought my Tattoo last year. At the time, i was an Android noob and was told by Vodafone that one of the great things is that Android would be constantly evolving. I personally didn't expect this to be forever, just not never. I contacted HTC support before purchase and was told it would be updated shortly. I also read a press release from HTC saying that Hero and Tattoo would be updated 2010Q1.
I'm relatively happy with my Tattoo. I'm relatively happy with 1.6 (but might not be in a year when no apps will run on it -- hoping this won't be the situation!). The only thing that does annoy me with it is the lack of Autofocus (again the spec claiming Autofocus was all over the web last December -- but wrong).
What will stop me buying another HTC though is this lack of communication (or poor commuication). This century companies need to have a dialogue with their customers and be open in their communications. HTC have not done this, and so although I think their products are good enough, their company isn't.

Im with Brandmarket.
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People I have big hopes in miui now!

And once again a thread about miui by the same person blah blah bl..
Yes fine but i do actually have something this time!!
As shown here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1hVXPiuo6Q&feature=related
does the acer liquid thing run miui
Tere the blade's specs http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_blade-3391.php
And
The liquid's specs http://www.gsmarena.com/acer_liquid-2968.php
The screen is the same the cpu of the acer is faster but the blade has the double ram (i have the 5mp/512mb ram version)
So why not?
I would love to help and i wont say that i don't have time since that would be a lie.
I'm willing to help everywhere i can.

Acer have snapdragon CPU, blade have arm v6 CPU, MIUI not supporting arm v6

acmerw said:
Acer have snapdragon CPU, blade have arm v6 CPU, MIUI not supporting arm v6
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That shouldn't be a problem.
Its still android and if we find a supported kernel will it work.
a cpu is a cpu. android is android. a kernel is a kernel. Three simple things that will make it possible.
Moon

Moonystorm said:
That shouldn't be a problem.
Its still android and if we find a supported kernel will it work.
a cpu is a cpu. android is android. a kernel is a kernel. Three simple things that will make it possible.
Moon
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Miui is compiled for armv7 it wont work unless miui devs release source
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Plus there doesn't seem to be many people that interested in it now (at least from what I've seen on Modaco).

:C
Oh yea i forgot it was closed.
****..
anyone up for a kingdom sense port ?
No really. would that work?
or does it only support arm7 cpus too :/
because if will we just port sense 2.1 (2.3.3) from the desire s c:
i would do it! even if sense is a little sucky
we would spend some time on something then :3
anyone up for it?
Moon

If it possible, it would be excellent !

cartmanotfat said:
If it possible, it would be excellent !
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Yes c: i think it will be possible we can use stuff from the wildfire s since it has an arm11 or whatever cpu too :3
i know a little about porting i've helped with the GT540 sense port (which never worked out :/)

If a portage is possible, the base would that of HTC Salsa, or maybe the Desire ?

Sense defiantly will not port, miui may. i am not too sure. I can try give it a go once im done with porting the 2x

carlos118 said:
Sense defiantly will not port, miui may. i am not too sure. I can try give it a go once im done with porting the 2x
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Why not?
It worked fine on the P500 GT540 SGS DROID Defy But Look the P500 and GT540 (have/had them both) Have the same cpu and less ram than the blade so why not.?

[Q] Android 3.0 on Xperia X8?

I have heard that some guys managed to port Android 3.0, better known as Honeycomb, to the G1, HTC Magic and to the Nexus One.
This are of course very beta versions, but the phones boot with it.
So, I wonder if someone could port 3.0 to our Xperia?
The HTC Magic and G1 were the first phones with Android, so our Xperia must be much better than them and, theoratically, it could work on it with just fewer lags than on the G1.
There are so many 2.2 and 2.3 ROMs available for our Xperia, so why not try to port 3.0?
If you think this is a stupid thread, just remove it, but I just wanted to know it.
Thanks in advance for your answers.

USE SEARCH FEATURE ON XDA AND YOU WILL FIND IT. Don't be lazy

You must be new here!

you will get burned at the stake by the guys here for opening such thread xD we are struggling to get a 100% bugless working android 2.2 and you bringing up android 3.0 which is meant for tablets with big screens xD lol
Edit : also such question is not meant to be in the dev section....

It was just a noob question...I also said that the versions for Nexus One, G1 and Magic are very beta versions.

There used to be an early version of Honeycomb somewhere here but the project has been abandoned. And no wonder - our kernel cannot even run Gingerbread without bugs, not to mention higher versions...

Even the kernel supports it, maybe phone will be too much laggy, as the HoneyComb suggests the need of 1.0Ghz processor, that is not our Case

So why they can run it on G1?
Does it have an unlocked bootloader, so you can flash a custom kernel?

codfreak said:
So why they can run it on G1?
Does it have an unlocked bootloader, so you can flash a custom kernel?
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Probably yes, Xperia stills locked and cannot boot custom kernels
Some dev are trying to make the bootloader bypass, but is not easy. :/

biscoitu said:
Probably yes, Xperia stills locked and cannot boot custom kernels
Some dev are trying to make the bootloader bypass, but is not easy. :/
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not easy and i think they already gave up

Graveir and aldee_s are right: someone has already ported it, but development is currently down.
here is the thread to it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982384&highlight=honeycomb

Blagus was disappointed with that, the only one that i saw making some progress was maxfron, but I didn´t saw him anymore

That had it ported but far to laggy m8 r CPU 2 slow at the min but I think I may still have that download ill cheack for u and upload it if so
my civic

Is because our phone is not ARMv7 & above and the processor speed is not super fast..if u port it into x8 it will buggy & lags in all of the function

Lets wait for 2. 4 but google need so much time : #
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There are already a few phones with Android 2.4 (not for sale, but someone somehow managed to get some)
Here is a youtube video, where you can see Xperia arc running 2.4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbBQMERacQ

codfreak said:
There are already a few phones with Android 2.4 (not for sale, but someone somehow managed to get some)
Here is a youtube video, where you can see Xperia arc running 2.4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbBQMERacQ
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This is fake he just editted the build.prob file!
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You can edit this in build.prop?
Do you mean the line:
Code:
ro.build.version.sdk=8
, so you would only have to change the number?

I think new Android will be 4.0 "Ice Cream Sandwich"
Not 2.4
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your new here arent ya? hahaha! its not very impossible to port 3.0 in our x8 just wait and see

All x1 users please present your point of view.

What is the price of the x1 nowadays?
Is it advisableto buy one now? I need it for my dad. He wants something sturdy, metallic, can run windows and android. Also with a physical keyboard.
What is the future of this device ?
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Hola, soy nuevo en el mundo de los celulares. Tengo un Xperia X1 y estoy experimentando.
Voy a tratar de instalar un SO mas actualizado y alguna versión de Android.
Un saludo a todos los nerds

Sorry bro, could you please translate in English?
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Hi, I'm new to the world of cell phones. I have a new Xperia X1 and I am experiencing.
I will try to install an updated OS and a version of Android.
Greetings to all the nerds

Ahh thanks and welcome! Though your reply was off topic
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Why does your dad want to run BOTH windows and android? Android for the X1 is still buggy and not recommended as a daily driver

harveydent said:
Why does your dad want to run BOTH windows and android? Android for the X1 is still buggy and not recommended as a daily driver
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First I would like to upgrade to a newer version of Windows. Second try android.
I installed Froyo V3 and it worked pretty well

forget buying the x1.
winmo 6.5 and android are just ported, and android is still not for daily use. it takes a lot of trial&error to get it running smoothly. trust me, a lot!
if you really want both os - get an htc hd2. (doesn't it run windows phone 7 as well?)
if you need hw-keyboard, get a touch pro 2.
but keep in mind that you'll always buy outdated hardware. and sw-development for winmo 6.5 is deader than dead.

man, remember I live in Uruguay.
X1 is not that old here

that doesn't change anything of what i wrote.
unless you run stockrom (winmo 6.1), you'll always have an unofficial beta-software running. although winmo 6.5(.x) is just as stable these days, or should i say 3 times better than 6.1?
but software? well, you'll never see any of those cool apps for android & ios being officially released for winmo. noone develops for it anymore.
examples: opera -> no opera 11 & opera mini 6.x; microsoft just turned off myphone and market for 6.5; your favourite news-site has such cool mobile-stuff? well, guess which os isn't supported... (and thanks to apple, most sites make good apps, but their mobile-pages for browser are from the stone age)
@hardware:
it's from 2008, 528 mhz. after that came snapdragon 1ghz (1st gen), then snapdragon 2nd gen and currently dual-core cpu's are state of the art. (each generation had a better gpu as well)
and thanks to SE never giving a damn, we have pretty bad hw-drivers as well (compared to htc's phones from that era)
right now i'm running android, but that's just my lazy sunday afternoon fun. it's not for daily use (kernel-issues, only from sd -> slower than flashed, hw-keys stop working from time to time etc etc). it's 10 times better than a year ago, but...
why am i still using this phone?
i want full qwerty-keyboard, but noone's making one i'd buy (high-end). and i still like winmo 6.5.

x1 is amazing
cost 100 bucks on ebay
and i dont what these ppl are talking about but android is faster than some of the roms
it can be used as a daily without a doubt
i have been using android on my x1 as a daily phone for 2 weeks without any issues
thanks

casualt said:
and i dont what these ppl are talking about but android is faster than some of the roms
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maybe you should stop using roms which are older than a year...?
casualt said:
it can be used as a daily without a doubt
i have been using android on my x1 as a daily phone for 2 weeks without any issues
thanks
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so all other people reporting bugs here and on neopeek are just idiots, hm?
and if there are no issues, why are you so desperatly trying to replace your keyb-drivers via terminal?

Thanks a ton caliban2 much appreciated!
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that doesn't change anything of what i wrote.
unless you run stockrom (winmo 6.1), you'll always have an unofficial beta-software running. although winmo 6.5(.x) is just as stable these days, or should i say 3 times better than 6.1?
but software? well, you'll never see any of those cool apps for android & ios being officially released for winmo. noone develops for it anymore.
examples: opera -> no opera 11 & opera mini 6.x; microsoft just turned off myphone and market for 6.5; your favourite news-site has such cool mobile-stuff? well, guess which os isn't supported... (and thanks to apple, most sites make good apps, but their mobile-pages for browser are from the stone age)
@hardware:
it's from 2008, 528 mhz. after that came snapdragon 1ghz (1st gen), then snapdragon 2nd gen and currently dual-core cpu's are state of the art. (each generation had a better gpu as well)
and thanks to SE never giving a damn, we have pretty bad hw-drivers as well (compared to htc's phones from that era)
right now i'm running android, but that's just my lazy sunday afternoon fun. it's not for daily use (kernel-issues, only from sd -> slower than flashed, hw-keys stop working from time to time etc etc). it's 10 times better than a year ago, but...
why am i still using this phone?
i want full qwerty-keyboard, but noone's making one i'd buy (high-end). and i still like winmo 6.5.
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caliban2 said:
maybe you should stop using roms which are older than a year...?
so all other people reporting bugs here and on neopeek are just idiots, hm?
and if there are no issues, why are you so desperatly trying to replace your keyb-drivers via terminal?
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a bit rude are we?
so what i press the camera button and then the shortcut on my homepage BIGDEAL

rmribeiro said:
man, remember I live in Uruguay.
X1 is not that old here
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That is a sad true. If you need some help with Android, send me a MP, I'm Uruguayan as well, so it's ok if its in Spanish.
See you around!

[Q] Best Roms and Kernels?

Hello,
I just purchased a used white sim unlocked X10i that should hopefully arrive this Friday. I have been reading through the forums for about a week now and I would like to get the opinions of knowledgeable individuals as to which rom, kernel, optimizations, tweaks, tools and any other useful additions that you believe would be best regarding the X10. I need the 1700Mhz band functional. I am currently running an HTC mytouch slide overclocked with CM7.1 and S2E, which I will eBay as soon as I am up to speed on the X10i and have it running smoothly. I have looked through the “Q & A” and also the “All-in-one Consolidated” threads and found much info. The seller wasn’t sure if the phone has the latest, but I plan on making sure the phone has the latest official OS update for firmware (2.3.3?). The rooting & recovery I believe I have handled http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1196808&highlight=rooting+how+to I would like to run S2E or something like it.http://forum.xdadevelopers.com/showthread.php?t=1271284 Also, is it true that the X10 should only be overclocked to about 1,150Mhz?
Thank you all in advance.

Max overclock is 1.228ghz i think but it varies as not every X10 can handle it. You can test my ROM haha, its stock 2.3.3 with Tweaks, new Features, some 2.3.4 apps from new Xperia Arc S and its alot lighter then stock too but doesnt loose any funtionality, but alot nice ROMs are around here, Miui, CM and alot stock based ROMs, im sure you can find anything for your like.
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Wolfbreak said:
Max overclock is 1.228ghz i think but it varies as not every X10 can handle it. You can test my ROM haha, its stock 2.3.3 with Tweaks, new Features, some 2.3.4 apps from new Xperia Arc S and its alot lighter then stock too but doesnt loose any funtionality, but alot nice ROMs are around here, Miui, CM and alot stock based ROMs, im sure you can find anything for your like.
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I think Wolfbreaks ROM is a veery good ROM, and you should definitely try that ROM first.
Then feel free to try my MIUI rom haha.