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Not happy with Android

Android has a long road to catch with iOS4 - im very depressed with the lack of quality control in the Android OS - it sucks - I guess it teaches Google that going from web devolpment to other plataforms is not that easy.
The App Store doesn't have any sort of quality control or centralized payment system.
There isn't a way to remove your Google ID from your phone.
I'm very unhappy with my phone - Iphone is much better. So many cool apps that will never appear on the Android thanks to Google incompetence

What were you expecting?
Everything is different, if you wanted an iPhone, you should buy an iPhone, not expect a different product to be exactly the same.
This has nothing to do with the X10 though. Is there an "Android" forum on here, not for any particular phone, but for the OS itself?
(Edit: Google Checkout seems pretty "centralized" to me... dunno what you mean about that.)

dr.doug said:
Android has a long road to catch with iOS4 - im very depressed with the lack of quality control in the Android OS - it sucks - I guess it teaches Google that going from web devolpment to other plataforms is not that easy.
The App Store doesn't have any sort of quality control or centralized payment system.
There isn't a way to remove your Google ID from your phone.
I'm very unhappy with my phone - Iphone is much better. So many cool apps that will never appear on the Android thanks to Google incompetence
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Try this
go to settings....
go to Applications...
go to Manage applications...
Scroll down till you find “Google Apps” click on it...
Simply hit the "Clear data"....
ALL YOU CONTACTS AND EVERYTHING GOOGLE RELATED WILL BE GONE
Now navigate back to the main settings window and go to Online service accounts...Google should be free for your new account inputs.

dr.doug said:
Android has a long road to catch with iOS4 - im very depressed with the lack of quality control in the Android OS - it sucks - I guess it teaches Google that going from web devolpment to other plataforms is not that easy.
The App Store doesn't have any sort of quality control or centralized payment system.
There isn't a way to remove your Google ID from your phone.
I'm very unhappy with my phone - Iphone is much better. So many cool apps that will never appear on the Android thanks to Google incompetence
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Lol.. get ready to be flamed. You just proved you are a jerk by comparing google platform with iOS4...lol.. omg ppl .. dont even know what they are talking about

This guy has to be a troll. Don't give him any more enjoyment from this thread. Mods please close this thread. Thx in advance.
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not a troll at all - just plain unhappy with the quality of the whole package - and I'm sure we all agree there is a long road ahead - I was expecting much more from my cellphone.
Yeah - I believe in complaining - I want more and better and I expect much more from Google.

Rockjock007 said:
Try this
go to settings....
go to Applications...
go to Manage applications...
Scroll down till you find “Google Apps” click on it...
Simply hit the "Clear data"....
ALL YOU CONTACTS AND EVERYTHING GOOGLE RELATED WILL BE GONE
Now navigate back to the main settings window and go to Online service accounts...Google should be free for your new account inputs.
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Thanks for the tip : )

iead1 said:
What were you expecting?
Everything is different, if you wanted an iPhone, you should buy an iPhone, not expect a different product to be exactly the same.
This has nothing to do with the X10 though. Is there an "Android" forum on here, not for any particular phone, but for the OS itself?
(Edit: Google Checkout seems pretty "centralized" to me... dunno what you mean about that.)
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Yes - I'm married to a X10 - in the good times and in bad, in sickness and in health. Amen

dr.doug said:
not a troll at all - just plain unhappy with the quality of the whole package - and I'm sure we all agree there is a long road ahead - I was expecting much more from my cellphone.
Yeah - I believe in complaining - I want more and better and I expect much more from Google.
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You mean "smartphone" not cellphone? Looks like its outsmarted you sir!

bazzatron said:
You mean "smartphone" not cellphone? Looks like its outsmarted you sir!
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indeed sir

dr.doug said:
not a troll at all - just plain unhappy with the quality of the whole package - and I'm sure we all agree there is a long road ahead - I was expecting much more from my cellphone.
Yeah - I believe in complaining - I want more and better and I expect much more from Google.
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Wow slow down man, a long road for iOS yes, Android is far far far better then iOS. My wife owns an iphone 4 and every time i pick it up to play with it i just feel sorry for it (swipe left, swipe right ) beleive me man Android is for MEN real MEN iphone is for people that have no computer orientation whatsoever it just works and thats it. For me i really cant beleive how much behind iOS is, you cant do anything on it! I dont know wich world you live in but please explain how is android behind? explain man.. Seriously i dont mean to be rude or anything but sometimes when i hear something like that i want to smack myself in the head because i cant beleive there is people stupid enough to claim that kind of thing... iOS is like you bought a house that you cant furnish the way you want, you cant decorate it the way you want, you cant repaint it, you cant do **** with it except open the fridge and eat whatever is in it weather you like it or not, or you want a softer bed but you cant change it, you want a different couch? guess what you cant change it....anything you want to change or have your way you cant! you can only use it however you bought it .... i hope you get the point. Android keeps amazing me everyday more and more of how you can change anything you want! And modify your phone in so many ways, i have a different look every week . its just ridiculous the amount if customization you can do. Seriously and to have all that with an good looking phone with great hardware, fast and reliable is just plain amazing. So whats up with that "quality of the whole package" what do you mean? i think you are really confused , are you?Cause i am. So please explain yourself..

dr.doug said:
Yes - I'm married to a X10 - in the good times and in bad, in sickness and in health. Amen
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Honestly, I do not think Apple is better than Android. They're simply too different ios. Theirs things that Apples os does better and theirs things that Android ios does better. Think about it. You probably say you prefer Apple over Android because you don't have froyo 2.2 on your phone yet. Android is amazing in my opinion. Full web content via adobe flash 10.1 (iphone cannot do every website in flash), you can not change the ui like Android, free turn by turn voice navigation, the ability to do something as simple as make phone calls and not have them drop because you do not have a case on your phone. Not one android phone needs a case to make a phone call. Apple is just now offering multitask, Android has been doing this since day one! One of the reasons why most people think iphone is the best is because of Apples marketing. Apple is smart when it comes to marketing. They only sold 3 different models (correct me if I'm wrong). 3g, 3gs and 4g and they all look similar so almost all accessories can be used through them all, they have millions of accessories. They have "i"everything. idock, ialarm, i etc. They are very smart! iphone isn't a bad phone but I do not think Android sucks compared to Apple like you make it sound. If you like iphone so bad then sell your phone or trade it for an iphone. Thanks for letting me vent.
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Rockjock007 said:
Try this
go to settings....
go to Applications...
go to Manage applications...
Scroll down till you find “Google Apps” click on it...
Simply hit the "Clear data"....
ALL YOU CONTACTS AND EVERYTHING GOOGLE RELATED WILL BE GONE
Now navigate back to the main settings window and go to Online service accounts...Google should be free for your new account inputs.
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I lol'd to this

To the OP. You are honestly the first person ive ever heard say this. Most people are blown away by Android, especially considering how new it is. Most will agree it is more robust and more powerful and has much much more potential than iOS.

lol indeed

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OP When you buy a phone, smart or otherwise, you should have a look at the operating as the OS and it app support and layout are the selling points to any phone. you should have enquired into how apps are paid for before you paid the money for the phone.
If YOU forgot to check if the things that were important to YOU ar present in OS then its really your fault not googles
tl;dr
Stop winging on the forums that's not what they're for

Goodbye Hero. Im not going to miss you.

Good bye hero. Thanks for...
1.) Random calls
2.) Lagging keyboard
3.) Force closing
4.) Overheating on wifi tether
5.) Never downloading anything from market until i turned wifi on/off.
6.) Always lagging so I end up not redialing someone, but dialing the last person I called/ who called me.
7.) ****ing bootlooping whenever i try jit or any jit rom
8.) Not supporting better porn sites
9.) Not printing money or making me an island and flying me there.
Thank you Htc Evo for...
1.) Everything

The evo prints money and puts you on islands? Damn I can't wait to upgrade!
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1) No random calls - front pocket has been nice to me so far, plus adding a lockscreen or disabling Menu(x2) to unlock seems to work as well
2) Swype, Dvorak, Swiftkey ftw
3) could be a whole array of different things related to the rom, kernel, app, etc.
4) errybody hates this you could try a handheld fan
5) lolwut probably a google talk issue
6) Mhm, mhm. wait a second.. "I end up not redialing someone" -> "Dialing the last person I called/who called me" What's your definition of redialing?
7) Jit'ing only feels good if you do it sparingly, otherwise you start to slow down and eventually your phone becomes impotent when it comes to jit
8) you're lonely.. we've all been there. Don't blame the phone, thats why you should get a laptop bigger screens ftw
9) Damn straight, completely agree with you

1) No random calls - front pocket has been nice to me so far, plus adding a lockscreen or disabling Menu(x2) to unlock seems to work as well -
(^Sure i can do that out of the box right?)
2) Swype, Dvorak, Swiftkey ftw
(^Shouldnt have to)
3) could be a whole array of different things related to the rom, kernel, app, etc.
(^tried them all, I think its the quality of hardware on the indivisual phone)
4) errybody hates this you could try a handheld fan
(^Or dunk it in water?)
5) lolwut probably a google talk issue
(^back to hardware)
6) Mhm, mhm. wait a second.. "I end up not redialing someone" -> "Dialing the last person I called/who called me" What's your definition of redialing?
(^ Hitting the send button to call the last person back who called me.)
7) Jit'ing only feels good if you do it sparingly, otherwise you start to slow down and eventually your phone becomes impotent when it comes to jit
(^I Jit constantly and never slow down, my 200 dollar hardware should jit all day and not blink)
8) you're lonely.. we've all been there. Don't blame the phone, thats why you should get a laptop bigger screens ftw
(^Jerking in elevators FTW)
9) Damn straight, completely agree with you
__(^Thank you)________________

Haha we need more people like you on this sub-forum
too bad you're leaving to the evo...I won't be there until possibly early end of winter. best of luck with that phone

dpeeps74 said:
The evo prints money and puts you on islands? Damn I can't wait to upgrade!
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Lol classic

I had all these issues on stock firmware lol it is sad. But on cm6, it us all fixed, except wifi tether heat and no island. Oh and the porn, but I don't really do that on the phone anyways
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danaff37 said:
I had all these issues on stock firmware lol it is sad. But on cm6, it us all fixed, except wifi tether heat and no island. Oh and the porn, but I don't really do that on the phone anyways
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My phone is my only porn outlet. The misses keeps an eagle-eye on the pc. :-(
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo on Hero action here!

incognito window on Chrome will keep that eagle eye from seeing a thing!
BINGO

CM6, modified kernel, XDA keyboard, battery tweak, launcherPro
What do I get? A fast and responsive phone running 2.2 that lasts 2 days on a charge. Sorry you have bad luck, or haven't optimized your phone to get the best out of it. Also, the "I shouldn't have to" excuse is weak if you're so disappointed in a phone that came out a year ago. I can't wait until the next big sprint phone comes along but to be honest I have nothing to complain about, I'm that satisfied. HUGE difference from the ****ty instinct I had before. lol
I don't get these farewell threads, just make the switch and move on. Maybe some here will follow your twitter but most of us are more concerned with the Hero. Not trying to be a ****, and I'm sure you're a nice guy and all, but I fail to understand why the world must be notified as to a person's purchases.
/rant

Or only make a farewell speech... when you are a dev or a themer.

rank78, which modified kernel are you using? I've been looking for a decent one.

user7618 said:
My phone is my only porn outlet. The misses keeps an eagle-eye on the pc. :-(
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo on Hero action here!
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Incognito mode ftw
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On a side note i bought an evo yesterday had an upgrade I was holding for a while... this phone is awesome I don't think ill be buying a tab now.
Don't worry guys ill stick around since ill always have a soft spot for the hero forum. I think its produced some of the best Serbs and themers
Ino i saidi want going to but the hero was getting boring
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rank78 said:
CM6, modified kernel, XDA keyboard, battery tweak, launcherPro
What do I get? A fast and responsive phone running 2.2 that lasts 2 days on a charge. Sorry you have bad luck, or haven't optimized your phone to get the best out of it. Also, the "I shouldn't have to" excuse is weak if you're so disappointed in a phone that came out a year ago. I can't wait until the next big sprint phone comes along but to be honest I have nothing to complain about, I'm that satisfied. HUGE difference from the ****ty instinct I had before. lol
I don't get these farewell threads, just make the switch and move on. Maybe some here will follow your twitter but most of us are more concerned with the Hero. Not trying to be a ****, and I'm sure you're a nice guy and all, but I fail to understand why the world must be notified as to a person's purchases.
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I had a ****ty instinct too! I bought 2 of them, one for me and one for wife. It was to be the iphone killer! Yeah right I remember they held a app contest, trying to get more developers to make apps for the phone. All that came was a few apps and a bunch of complaining from the dev that sprint wont release code to access things they needed to make the apps work! Frickin Sprint has been screwing people for a loooong time!!! Yet what do I do when its upgrade time? Get the newest POS Maybe next time I will hold out for the release that comes after the "new release" ie, hero/evo Thanks to all the devs who made my and everyones else's hero manageable

ASimmons said:
On a side note i bought an evo yesterday had an upgrade I was holding for a while... this phone is awesome I don't think ill be buying a tab now.
Don't worry guys ill stick around since ill always have a soft spot for the hero forum. I think its produced some of the best Serbs and themers
Ino i saidi want going to but the hero was getting boring
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does that mean bye bye to [THEME] DarkEdge UI

Naw ill still do it... the source is all screwed up so I have to move things around to then run my script on it... I just haven't had time to do it. But I will give me a week.
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cordell12 said:
I had a ****ty instinct too! I bought 2 of them, one for me and one for wife. It was to be the iphone killer! Yeah right I remember they held a app contest, trying to get more developers to make apps for the phone. All that came was a few apps and a bunch of complaining from the dev that sprint wont release code to access things they needed to make the apps work! Frickin Sprint has been screwing people for a loooong time!!! Yet what do I do when its upgrade time? Get the newest POS Maybe next time I will hold out for the release that comes after the "new release" ie, hero/evo Thanks to all the devs who made my and everyones else's hero manageable
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Got one sitting in my dresser drawer aka the phone grave yard was my wifes
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reedsw said:
Or only make a farewell speech... when you are a dev or a themer.
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Lmao! +1234567
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reedsw said:
Or only make a farewell speech... when you are a dev or a themer.
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Lol 10char

Pawned a couple things to buy the Xoom... regret it?/?

so i was finally able to afford the wifi only Xoom, and i knew i wanted it over the ipad. Reason being, I have a HTC Evo and before that i had an HTC Hero.I've rooted them and flashed them with diferent roms,kernels, themes, and all that good stuff that we can do on our "open source" OS that IOS cannot. butttttttttttttt........
after playing with the Xoom for the past 2 days i kind of do not feel satisfied. Main reason for this is the apps.... i love using apps... Android seems to have less than 100 tablet optimized apps and that really sucks for me. its been a month and a half since the release of the xoom.
things making me want to keep it:
-sd card
-very customizible (if thats a word)
-i tethered to evo and it was blazing fast on 3g
-not wanting to be like everyone else that gets an ipad
-eventually i guess.. more free apps
-camera has led flash
-youtube app
etc...
and just because its freekin Android... (gotta love it)
things making me want to get an ipad2:
-currently has more apps
-even though it has lower resolution screen looks better
-faster response when flickin
advice??
ps.
how much longer till we get about 1000 apps?

Serious advice: sell/return it and get the iPad.
Reason for advice: Nevermind that you can use loads of current mobile apps on the Xoom, if what you're looking for is a buttload of tablet apps then an Android tablet is not for you... yet.

the apps will eventually find their way on the xoom and other android tablets. Remember when you first got your Hero how many apps there were? OK there were more than 100 but the number of apps has grown exponentially over the past 2 years as more and more people acquired android smartphones. The same will go for the tablet - and as more and more ppl acquire android tablets the bigger the market for developers and the more apps we will find. Developers will need the honeycomb sdk to optimise their apps for the platform and whenever it gets out to them we will see the number of apps grow exponentially too. It may take another 6 months or so for our favourite android apps to become tablet-optimised.... And what matters to me is not the number of apps but their quality: I don't need 100 fart apps on my tablet and if you look at your smartphone you'd realise you only use a small number of apps (up to 30 maybe?). It is those apps that have to find their way on the tablet platform, I don't care much about the other ones I'll never use. Whenever they do, you'll be far more satisfied with your device. In the end it's all down to us and our commitment to the platform. if there's no market for developers there won't be any quality apps for us to play with.

Or just do what I did and buy a xoom and an iPad 2...
haha

I know I was annoyed that a lot of the non-tablet optimized apps appeared shrunk on the Xoom screen (with the fixed dimensions of a phone); but after downloading Spare Parts and disabling compatibility mode having the apps fill out the entire screen makes these apps look less awkward.

Get the ipad. Android isn't about the apps. Its good because apps aren't needed to make the device functional. Its good because it has a full browser and file system and its good to tinker with. If you simply want apps apps apps then it isn't the platform for you

Wow... i dont want and ipad...but thanks for the encouragement. Lol
Thanks Sejanus for informing me about spare parts... instead of telling me to go buy an Ipad u actually made me love my Xoom even more..
Advantages of having a Xoom are more and better than having an ipad. Like i pointed out in the first post.
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kanyewest said:
Wow... i dont want and ipad...but thanks for the encouragement. Lol
Thanks Sejanus for informing me about spare parts... instead of telling me to go buy an Ipad u actually made me love my Xoom even more..
Advantages of having a Xoom are more and better than having an ipad. Like i pointed out in the first post.
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Hmmm, you also pointed out in the first post that you were not satisfied with the Xoom because of a lack of apps and that one of the reasons you would like to get an iPad was because it had more apps. I'm not seeing your logic in your second post.
I don't have an agenda with a specific OS, people should get what they like.
Anyway, it's good that you're not going down the route of evil

Here's what android 3.0 aka honeycomb will look like soon
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I pawned my baby's crib to get a xoom. He can sleep in the dog's bed.
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Bauxite said:
I pawned my baby's crib to get a xoom. He can sleep in the dog's bed.
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Hahaha epic.
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Bauxite said:
I pawned my baby's crib to get a xoom. He can sleep in the dog's bed.
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I pawned my baby to get my xoom. I wanted a boy anyways...
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Crimton said:
I pawned my baby to get my xoom. I wanted a boy anyways...
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Well, they do say a boy would be easier to raise lol...
But seriously, I think if you need mega apps right now and you can't wait a few more months for Honeycomb apps to appear return the Xoom and get a ipad 2(or even an ipad if you want to go cheaper route), but if you want more then just apps Xoom is what you should keep. Also remember google apps(ex. maps, navigation, etc) will always be perfected on Android before iOS stuff.

I pawned one of my nuts ... hell, God gave me two!

Can I point out that I'm a developer on the android platform and I'm currently working on a Honeycomb app at home, and once we cover the beaurocracy, our company will be releasing honeycomb / tablet optimised apps too.
Also, these apps can and have at times taken 2+ months to build from the ground up.
Honeycomb is a huge difference from previous versions in terms of the application design and workflow.
You need patience for these things. If you want something quick that's optimised specially I'm sure I can throw a couple of apps together, iamrich or a nice multicolour screen torch, or something in 5 minutes...
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alias_neo said:
You need patience for these things. If you want something quick that's optimised specially I'm sure I can throw a couple of apps together, iamrich or a nice multicolour screen torch, or something in 5 minutes...
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Or you can continue to develop really nice children's books I'll keep an eye out for your next publications!

kanyewest said:
things making me want to get an ipad2:
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-faster response when flicking
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I swear ...!

funnycreature said:
Or you can continue to develop really nice children's books I'll keep an eye out for your next publications!
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Thanks funnycreature. The one you tested is released now and we've got 4 more ready to be released in a couple of weeks. Classic stories this time.
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What's the point of Sense anymore?

I have used all flavors, even back when it was TouchFlo on my HTC Vogue... I don't get it. I paid for SPB Mobile Shell 3D, and it seems much more fluid. I know there are a few nifty treats like flip-over-to-silence-call, etc, but really there are only a few. I was really hoping these 3.0 ROMs would add some must-have features, but I found myself thinking... "I have Sense 3.0, what now?"
Flashing to Deck's 1.1 right now, and as soon as CM7 gets MMS working again, I'll be back on their 2.3.4 build.
What features of Sense 1.0, 2.1, or 3.0 really pull you in? I'm not trying to bash Sense, but I just wonder if I am missing some hidden gem that Mobile Shell 3D doesn't have?
Thanks

Look and feel for some.
Some people use it because they used to use it with their Windows Mobile 6.x phone and they're just used to it.

mattykinsx said:
Look and feel for some.
Some people use it because they used to use it with their Windows Mobile 6.x phone and they're just used to it.
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This is me. I like the look and feel without having to buy a third party add on.

well when I used it on WM7, and it was called touchflo, it made it easy to switch between important info real quick... like tabs... what we have now is basically just the stock launcher with a few widgets on top of it. I do like the font/text size on Sense 3.0, but it seems hard to justify the ROM being 3 times larger... especially when I just ended up putting SPB 3D right on top of it.
The zoomed-in text cursor was kinda cool... I dunno, I guess I just figured there was something really kick-ass that I was overlooking. I'll probably go back to Sense when the Evo 3D comes out, most likely out of necessity.
The things I like about Sense ROMs aren't really Sense-related... I like that full 720p recording works, I like the accuracy of GPS, and a few other things. Although I can say that the Kingdom A.1 ROM had really weak WIFI performance... I had a hard time staying connected and once I flashed to Deck's it worked great again.
What I don't get is how come some ROMs restore all my apps through the Market, and others don't? Kingdom ROM did... Most CM7 ROMs do too.

WindOws vs pc debate...no one will ever have a reason, it's preference, if it aint broke don't fix...

I actually like sense a lot. It's clean & nice looking. I have tried out SPB shell 3D but was missing my sense widgets so had to go back to sense.

Blonde vs. Brunette, full figure or skinny.....

I don't have to go look for widgets to do things they are already built into Sense. If in fact I enjoyed having nothing but icons then AOSP would be great. When on AOSP I spend all my time looking for widgets that do what Sense does out of the box. I also find that when I load AOSP ROMs up with all the widgets they aren't any faster.

Sense offers a great cohesive look for a phone for users that aren't obsessessed with having a unique customized look. The themes, backgrounds, widgets, apps all work together great and you'd be hard pressed to make your phone look ugly using all Sense stuff. LP, ADW, Beautiful/Fancy Widgets, etc. can make for some ugly screenies in the wrong hands. The amount of options offered in those apps is mind boggling for your average everyday cellphone users. Its a great selling point to have all the social synergy stuff and theming out the box without having to buy apps immediately to make your phone pretty.

ScrapMaker said:
What I don't get is how come some ROMs restore all my apps through the Market, and others don't? Kingdom ROM did... Most CM7 ROMs do too.
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I was puzzled by this for a while too. Turns out flashing a ROM and immediately flashing the gapps will cause this. If you flash a ROM, boot, then go back to recovery to flash the gapps, you won't get your apps restored unless you do it yourself. There's also a setting (Settings->Privacy->Automatic Restore) that has some bearing on this too.

ffolkes said:
I was puzzled by this for a while too. Turns out flashing a ROM and immediately flashing the gapps will cause this. If you flash a ROM, boot, then go back to recovery to flash the gapps, you won't get your apps restored unless you do it yourself. There's also a setting (Settings->Privacy->Automatic Restore) that has some bearing on this too.
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dang, I never knew the timing of the gapps flash mattered... I always did it the same on every ROM flash and sometimes it worked, and other times it didn't. I wish Google would give us the ability to manage our backed up info/settings.
I guess since I bought SPB Mobile Shell 3D that my preferences are different... they are already the same or better than Sense widgets, and much smoother than any Sense launcher, (full hw accel on Evo.) So I'd probably load this on top of any Sense installation anyways. I really think that would just be a waste. I have to look at non-launcher differences. I like facebook contact integration, but that is done with the Facebook app... I guess if you really like the status updates on your contacts application, and things like friendstream, then Sense would be preferrable. Personally I disable friendstream because I'd rather just check the action out in the main app or on the full website.
As far as the OS-level changes go, are they mostly cosmetic? I did notice the flip-to-silence kind of thing, but I wonder if 4G performance is better, or anything like that?

ffolkes said:
I was puzzled by this for a while too. Turns out flashing a ROM and immediately flashing the gapps will cause this. If you flash a ROM, boot, then go back to recovery to flash the gapps, you won't get your apps restored unless you do it yourself. There's also a setting (Settings->Privacy->Automatic Restore) that has some bearing on this too.
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My god.... THANK YOU. THIS is what keeps me from trying out new roms more often, I hate dealing with 40 applications trying to download from the market every time I switch.

ffolkes said:
I was puzzled by this for a while too. Turns out flashing a ROM and immediately flashing the gapps will cause this. If you flash a ROM, boot, then go back to recovery to flash the gapps, you won't get your apps restored unless you do it yourself. There's also a setting (Settings->Privacy->Automatic Restore) that has some bearing on this too.
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I think you can also bypass that by skipping that initial 'touch the naughty Android' screen. I've never had this happen and I always flash GApps in the same session. And I notice I always have the backup / restore option checked too.
That ol' 4 point breath of death tap.
Top Left
Top Right
Lower Right
Lower Left
Dance around that Android

conqu1stador said:
That ol' 4 point breath of death tap.
Top Left
Top Right
Lower Right
Lower Left
Dance around that Android
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the heck is that?

conqu1stador said:
I think you can also bypass that by skipping that initial 'touch the naughty Android' screen. I've never had this happen and I always flash GApps in the same session. And I notice I always have the backup / restore option checked too.
That ol' 4 point breath of death tap.
Top Left
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you forgot..
put your right foot in..
put your right foot out..
put your right foot in..
and shake it all about..

ScrapMaker said:
the heck is that?
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That first screen with the Android, the one that says 'touch the Android to begin,' if you tap around it you can skip that initial BS and I think that is when the app restoration begins. I used to try and make sure I was always set for app restore but it never did it. If you tap the upper left, upper right, lower right, and lower left around the Android you can bypass that.
Pretty sure that's why, despite my previous and earlier attempts to have the restoration take place, it never happened. Glad, because it sounds like a pain.*
Dan330 said:
you forgot..
put your right foot in..
put your right foot out..
put your right foot in..
and shake it all about..
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
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"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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*that may not be the case, but it's the only logical reason I can think of as to why I could never get it. but I'm pretty sure. but I could also be wrong. I haven't slept ... and the drinks are flowing.**
**Go Bulls

conqu1stador said:
That first screen with the Android, the one that says 'touch the Android to begin,' if you tap around it you can skip that initial BS and I think that is when the app restoration begins. I used to try and make sure I was always set for app restore but it never did it. If you tap the upper left, upper right, lower right, and lower left around the Android you can bypass that.
Pretty sure that's why, despite my previous and earlier attempts to have the restoration take place, it never happened. Glad, because it sounds like a pain.*
*that may not be the case, but it's the only logical reason I can think of as to why I could never get it. but I'm pretty sure. but I could also be wrong. I haven't slept ... and the drinks are flowing.**
**Go Bulls
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Honestly, why would you want to skip it? I HATE having to dig through the market again to find everything... I'd much rather them reinstall automatically...

ScrapMaker said:
Honestly, why would you want to skip it? I HATE having to dig through the market again to find everything... I'd much rather them reinstall automatically...
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Because people have complained about a bunch of old apps they don't want installing again, that or many people use titanium. I grab as I go, make sure things are getting set up and working right as I go. I grab my important ones, free and paid, and sometimes I don't grab apps up again. That way you don't end up forgetting you restored a bunch of **** you downloaded and never removed. I don't have a TON of apps though, which some seem to.
Either way.
Choices, bro.
Duh.
#Winning

Sim-X said:
I actually like sense a lot. It's clean & nice looking. I have tried out SPB shell 3D but was missing my sense widgets so had to go back to sense.
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Same here

ScrapMaker said:
I have used all flavors, even back when it was TouchFlo on my HTC Vogue... I don't get it. I paid for SPB Mobile Shell 3D, and it seems much more fluid. I know there are a few nifty treats like flip-over-to-silence-call, etc, but really there are only a few. I was really hoping these 3.0 ROMs would add some must-have features, but I found myself thinking... "I have Sense 3.0, what now?"
Flashing to Deck's 1.1 right now, and as soon as CM7 gets MMS working again, I'll be back on their 2.3.4 build.
What features of Sense 1.0, 2.1, or 3.0 really pull you in? I'm not trying to bash Sense, but I just wonder if I am missing some hidden gem that Mobile Shell 3D doesn't have?
Thanks
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Some dudes like chicks, some dudes like dudes. Some dudes like to get a little rough, some dudes just wanna watch you do it. Hell, I almost feel like it isn't worth chewing through the restraints unless there is a promise of midgets and duck tape...

(ROM) Abridged for Music

Preeminently, I have always wanted to contribute to the Eris community. This is my first rom, although don't assume I'm adept at this specific criteria. It is based off CyanogenMod, without it this would have never happened. From what I recall, there was a thread that stated a rom should be made for the Eris as music player.
Hence I felt I should contribute since I had leisure time. So I removed all the applications that would intrude to make the Eris a pure mp3 player.
I bring to you the Abridged Rom.
I removed vexing signal bars in the status bar.
It is ICS themed.
Holo launcher, which is surreal to the ICS launcher.
Holo locker, it is relevant to Jelly Bean lock screen.
Battery script by Decad3nce = XDA. To activate, go to Terminal Emulator, type su for superuser permission; then type batt-cfg.
To make the launcher load smoother, press "Menu" then "Launcher Settings", go to "Desktop Settings" then tick "Wallpaper Scrolling" off.
If the Android lock screen intercedes with the Holo Locker application, got to Holo Locker then turn it "off" then "on".
Got the keyboard to work, just got to Settings>Language & Keyboard> Select Language> (choose) English (United States). That's if you prefer that language.
(Latest release, in the Beats column)
My Disclaimer:
To use this specific development, it is implored that you accept these terms and/or regulations.
"You" means the end user. By accepting this particular software, script, etc; you assess that it was established in a venerable infrastructure. Also, that "you" preeminently will not contemplate a contentious and/or irreverent, sordid manner; if "you" you are incongruous with the implicated engineering "you" will not perform or incite any behavior antecedently foretold. Furthermore, this engineering is not perfection but is ordain as to what is perceived from it. The founding Creator is not to be blamed for glitches, etcetera; though he ensues that he will be inure to anatomize and rectify any flaws as "you" enunciate them for him. Should "you" be admonished to use this attire with your discretion, due to the Creator or affiliates not being responsible to any errors concurring or that may reside.
Hitherto, "you" are now in accord and conclude with these terms and/or regulations.
(Basically saying I'm not responsible for your actions )
Hopefully, you enjoy it :highfive:
Initial Release:
Update:
Beats Rom
Initial Release:
Update 8/13/2012
Update 8/19/2012
Okay, for some peculiar and vague reason 2shared thrashed my links, they do not work. I have deleted those builds, I have no idea why. Though I have preserved some not all. (I feel ashamed). I will upload them in my Skydrive, thus never having to worry about anything being deleted or any obstructions.
Only this bottom one works
Update 11/19/2012: http://www.2shared.com/file/V-S7YChm/HTC-Eris-Beats9.html
Skydrive (Including remnants of my builds)
Update 6/10/2013: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=C77A9B2B559BD0CD!105&authkey=!AHSqdyLCF9IGm4Y
From my "Copy.com" cloud storage
Update 6/10/2013: https://copy.com/e6LQelLOusIN
Newest is called HTC Eris Beats 11, I presume, enjoy.
(Now I come to realize that once you sign into Google Play, force closes will concur. Unfortunately up until now I could not fix, it could be evaded by not registering Google Play or if you have registered already then just disable sync in "Settings>Accounts&Sync" I apologize for any inconvenience "
No need to flash gapps.
Just wipe dalvik x3 then wipe data.
Then flash.

Extraneous Post
Update!
cm-7-20130301-NIGHTLY-desirec, enjoy
Updated the market once again; and a few minor tweaks as well.
Same concept as the predating release.
Enjoy.
Beats column just a modification in the system to have better sound, discrepant from the original Abridged Rom; same base, everything. Just the Beats Audio is irrelevant to the initial.
(MOD)Beats Audio(2.3+up) by RockoDev; credit to him. It was referred by Izeltokatl, thanks.
Link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226

Aw heck I'll give it a shot. Downloading now.

Demache said:
Aw heck I'll give it a shot. Downloading now.
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Thanks

MrSpartan said:
Thanks
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Just give me a little bit since I accidentally ran the battery into the ground. I want to give it enough charge so it doesn't die half way through boot.

Just giving it a little break in. Not bad.
Although, I seem to have created a slight issue here, where I doubled the lockscreens.
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I'm assuming the ICS themed lockscreen runs independently of the normal lockscreens?
EDIT: I figured it out. I missed a line about Holo locker in your instructions.

Demache said:
Just giving it a little break in. Not bad.
Although, I seem to have created a slight issue here, where I doubled the lockscreens.
I'm assuming the ICS themed lockscreen runs independently of the normal lockscreens?
EDIT: I figured it out. I missed a line about Holo locker in your instructions.
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Thank you very much for trying it out. Also, thanks for your compliment, it really means a lot to me.:highfive:

MrSpartan said:
Thank you very much for trying it out. Also, thanks for your compliment, it really means a lot to me.:highfive:
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Actually, this might be a ROM that sticks around on mine for awhile. I do like how you stripped most of the phone functionality out so I don't have all that additional clutter (and possibly saving RAM? I haven't really investigated that). But hey for your first ROM, this seems to working pretty well.

Demache said:
Actually, this might be a ROM that sticks around on mine for awhile. I do like how you stripped most of the phone functionality out so I don't have all that additional clutter (and possibly saving RAM? I haven't really investigated that). But hey for your first ROM, this seems to working pretty well.
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From what I see it does save RAM, which is crucially vital to the Eris, not only that battery durability excrescences dramatically. Which is very desirable for anyone.

I am the guy that wanted a ROM that turned the Eris into a music player. Having attempted to use TheMP3Rom, and found that it doesn't work, I am glad you made this. I am downloading it and trying it now. You have my thanks for making this happen, and I hope that the development cycle on this lasts a while, because even just the thread on that other rom is dead.
Just to clarify, that command for the battery script is "su batt-cfg" and not "su" followed by "batt-cfg" right?
Also, LOVE the boot animation. Best one I've seen. Also also, what version of CM is it based on?

Oh, one more to try on my trusty eris. I should find the beats hacks and post here, would make a fine addition to this Rom. It should work as its generic enough to work on my touchpad.
Sent from my HP Touchpad.

Izeltokatl said:
Oh, one more to try on my trusty eris. I should find the beats hacks and post here, would make a fine addition to this Rom. It should work as its generic enough to work on my touchpad.
Sent from my HP Touchpad.
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Did you mean this? I think it only works with Sense ROMs. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314471
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA premium.

having ordained this ROM as to what i have perceived it to be, i doth proclaim that this ROM is awesome!! :highfive:
i decided to break out the old eris to use as a spare TiVo remote around the house, and i stumble across this! great job, this is exactly what i needed to bring the eris back into rotation.
certain apps don't seem to be getting proper root access or working with superuser correctly. i don't expect to use the phone for anything other than as a TiVo remote, occasional music player, and spontaneous google searches, so i won't be using many apps that NEED root access... but that's the only "issue" i've come across. great work!

ecs1984 said:
having ordained this ROM as to what i have perceived it to be, i doth proclaim that this ROM is awesome!! :highfive:
i decided to break out the old eris to use as a spare TiVo remote around the house, and i stumble across this! great job, this is exactly what i needed to bring the eris back into rotation.
certain apps don't seem to be getting proper root access or working with superuser correctly. i don't expect to use the phone for anything other than as a TiVo remote, occasional music player, and spontaneous google searches, so i won't be using many apps that NEED root access... but that's the only "issue" i've come across. great work!
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Thank you very much for trying it!! :highfive:
I brought an assumption that hardly nobody would try it, but I was equally mistaken.

Super_Dork_42 said:
I am the guy that wanted a ROM that turned the Eris into a music player. Having attempted to use TheMP3Rom, and found that it doesn't work, I am glad you made this. I am downloading it and trying it now. You have my thanks for making this happen, and I hope that the development cycle on this lasts a while, because even just the thread on that other rom is dead.
Just to clarify, that command for the battery script is "su batt-cfg" and not "su" followed by "batt-cfg" right?
Also, LOVE the boot animation. Best one I've seen. Also also, what version of CM is it based on?
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Sorry for my insouciance to not get on XDA; thanks for the response and my apologies for not remembering your name.
The script is "su" for superuser permission then "batt-cfg" to execute it.
About to release an update, but this version I assume it is cm-7-20120722-NIGHTLY-desirec.
Furthermore, this will get updates, not to worry.

This is what I used on my touchpad, with cm9.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226
And this one works too, I used both at the same time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728391
Sent from my rezound

Izeltokatl said:
This is what I used on my touchpad, with cm9.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226
And this one works too, I used both at the same time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728391
Sent from my rezound
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I'm sorry if I intruded with your conversation with Super_Dork_42; this seems very nice. Not only that, as your predating statement, that this would be a great appendage to this rom; I might implement this . Also, thanks for your cooperation in introducing this. :highfive:

My Tracks
Thanks, Spartan, for a great little ROM! I just pulled the Eris out hoping to revive it as a companion for my bike. Works great for music - sleek & fast - however something is blocking Goggle My Tracks from installing. Not sure what it is...it installs on other GB ROMs. I tried both installing from the market (the app doesn't show up), and by sideloading the APK. No dice. Any help appreciated.

MrSpartan said:
I'm sorry if I intruded with your conversation with Super_Dork_42; this seems very nice. Not only that, as your predating statement, that this would be a great appendage to this rom; I might implement this . Also, thanks for your cooperation in introducing this. :highfive:
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Those mods are for CM9 so you'll have to make the next one CM9 based if that's possible in order to use them.

As far as I recall, one link provided for CM9 and the other for 2.3 and further.
Sent from my ERIS using xda premium