I've had my Samsung Note for the last month and whilst I'm happy with it I cannot help but grumble about it's speed/response even when used on different launchers...
Though it runs ok it can be slow from time to time especially when suddenly unlocking it and opening your contacts or messages. This results in a few second delay.
Also when scrolling up/down through contacts/settings menu it's jerky, not smooth.
When comparing it to my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play which has a single core 1GHz cpu & 512Mb of ram it is miles faster and 100% smooth in every possible way compared to my Note. You'd expect the Note to be faster than The Sony Ericsson Xperia.
Why is a much lower spec phone much faster & smoother than my Note?
kanej2006 said:
I've had my Samsung Note for the last month and whilst I'm happy with it I cannot help but grumble about it's speed/response even when used on different launchers...
Though it runs ok it can be slow from time to time especially when suddenly unlocking it and opening your contacts or messages. This results in a few second delay.
Also when scrolling up/down through contacts/settings menu it's jerky, not smooth.
When comparing it to my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play which has a single core 1GHz cpu & 512Mb of ram it is miles faster and 100% smooth in every possible way compared to my Note. You'd expect the Note to be faster than The Sony Ericsson Xperia.
Why is a much lower spec phone much faster & smoother than my Note?
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You might think on that the Note has almost three times the pixelamount to shuffle around compared to a SE Play
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You might think on that the Note has almost three times the pixelamount to shuffle around compared to a SE Play
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That's true but then why make an underpowered phone which then results in lag & sluggishness?
Samsung should of increased the ram & cpu to solve this issue...
I know the SE has far less pixelmounts to shuffle but it's still bad considering a phone having just 512mb ram and a single core 1GHz processor destroy a phone having almost double the ram & a dual core processor.
I would of least expected it to be of a similar speed but it's lagging far behind.
The ONLY areas in which My Samsung Note beats my SE in tems of speed are:
Internet/browsing
Going through photos/zooming in/out
Aside from these 2 points the Note is far slower in every possible way. I hope the upcoming icecream sandwich can solve these issues...
I've seen several people running the proper official version of ice cream sandwich as standard on their Samsung Galaxy Nexus and their saying it's a HUGE & NOTICABLE difference compared to the previous version of Android.
I hope the same can be said when the Note gets it's upgrade!
kanej2006 said:
I've had my Samsung Note for the last month and whilst I'm happy with it I cannot help but grumble about it's speed/response even when used on different launchers...
Though it runs ok it can be slow from time to time especially when suddenly unlocking it and opening your contacts or messages. This results in a few second delay.
Also when scrolling up/down through contacts/settings menu it's jerky, not smooth.
When comparing it to my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play which has a single core 1GHz cpu & 512Mb of ram it is miles faster and 100% smooth in every possible way compared to my Note. You'd expect the Note to be faster than The Sony Ericsson Xperia.
Why is a much lower spec phone much faster & smoother than my Note?
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This sounds like an individual problem. For if the Note was faulty as described then it would have been noticed by the 80% in the poll here who like me think the note is pretty perfect.
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You might think on that the Note has almost three times the pixelamount to shuffle around compared to a SE Play
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that is not an answer........note also has dual core prossesor wid more speed and double ram.....so whatever may b d reason, it should not b slow or laggy.....
Reason is not pixel or hardware, its software......
Gingerbread is not optimised for this, it is not utilising the power of note fully. just wait for ICS to come
katyarevishal said:
that is not an answer........note also has dual core prossesor wid more speed and double ram.....so whatever may b d reason, it should not b slow or laggy.....
Reason is not pixel or hardware, its software......
Gingerbread is not optimised for this, it is not utilising the power of note fully. just wait for ICS to come
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Of course it has do with the pixels also. My SGS II was way smoother than the Note even though it has been better with KL7 rom. And the difference between them is that the Note has three times more pixels wich the higher clocked CPU cant make up to. And SE are known to have on of the fastest launchers of all the Android makers. Much quicker than Touchwiz
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This sounds like an individual problem. For if the Note was faulty as described then it would have been noticed by the 80% in the poll here who like me think the note is pretty perfect.
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Could be. The strangest thing is that MOST other launchers I've tried are worse and lag. Examples are ADW Launcher, Go Launcher and even the Ice Cream Sandwich Launcher...
The ONLY launcher that runs quite well is Launcher Pro Plus which runs slightly quicker than the stock touchwiz.
When trying Windows 7 Launcher it didn't work period, the home screen shakes up/down when trying to scroll...
Hopefully the next update should fix my problems. I am hoping Ice Cream Sandwich will resolve ALL my issues!
katyarevishal said:
that is not an answer........note also has dual core prossesor wid more speed and double ram.....so whatever may b d reason, it should not b slow or laggy.....
Reason is not pixel or hardware, its software......
Gingerbread is not optimised for this, it is not utilising the power of note fully. just wait for ICS to come
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Thanks for backing me up. I fully agree 100% that Gingerbread has NOT been properly optimized to make full use of the Note, unfortunately...
The Note was made for ICS and as you also mentioned I hope ICS gives us an even better and faster Note.
This must bean individual problem. For if the Note was faulty as described then why isn't it a problem for every Note user?
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This must bean individual problem. For if the Note was faulty as described then why isn't it a problem for every Note user?
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I've read many posts on this very forum with people grumbling about lag and smoothness...
kanej2006 said:
I've read many posts on this very forum with people grumbling about lag and smoothness...
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That doesn't answer my question. If the Note is faulty then why doesn't everyone have the problem?
Try rocet rom defosnappy like sg2 freeze apps u dont need wifi sharing etc
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Why don't you flash a custom ROM
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That doesn't answer my question. If the Note is faulty then why doesn't everyone have the problem?
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Because people doesn't see a problem on the same issues or doesn't have noticed at all custom brightness on high never used the phone on low light places. Never played a dark video, using Samsung wallpaper. Never where on forums to read about the problems. My phone didn't have a pink spot on camera till I headed about it and reproduced low light with white paper on macro shot, and there was a pink spot, used flash on same pic no pink spot same conditions. Simple if you don't know it isn't there
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kanej2006 said:
I've had my Samsung Note for the last month and whilst I'm happy with it I cannot help but grumble about it's speed/response even when used on different launchers...
Though it runs ok it can be slow from time to time especially when suddenly unlocking it and opening your contacts or messages. This results in a few second delay.
Also when scrolling up/down through contacts/settings menu it's jerky, not smooth.
When comparing it to my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play which has a single core 1GHz cpu & 512Mb of ram it is miles faster and 100% smooth in every possible way compared to my Note. You'd expect the Note to be faster than The Sony Ericsson Xperia.
Why is a much lower spec phone much faster & smoother than my Note?
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Coming from the gtab 10.1, adw launcher was recommended to get rid of slight home screen lag, which it did.
So I threw up adw launcher on my note, and it is definitely slower than stock twlauncher.
Kinda strange.
Well, adding more RAM won't make it more responsive, and it is already running the fastest dual core SoC on the market. So spec wise there is not much Samsung can do. Maybe in a few months when quad core SoC becomes mainstream it will release a Note 2 with quad core SoC.
My dad has a Note and I do feel that my Galaxy Nexus is more responsive. Given that the resolutions on the two are similar, I think after the ICS update the Note will run smoother overall. That is of course assuming that the new version of TouchWiz won't screw the phone up.
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That doesn't answer my question. If the Note is faulty then why doesn't everyone have the problem?
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Since when did I mention anything about the Note being faulty?
I simply said it is not performing as well as it should and most people will agree with me.
You are the one who implied that my Note is faulty, not me.
There is nothing wrong with my Note apart from it's sluggish performance.
Many other users on this forum have opened up threads with regards to performance issues as well as methods of trying to speed the Note up.
If you go through the first few pages of the Galaxy Note General section you will see several threads with forums regarding input lag, slowness & other response issues...
As katyarevishal kindly explained ONE big reason for the lag/slow downs of the Note is due to the high pixel density of the screen.
Aside from the pixel density the Note's performance is let down because of Gingerbread and it's poor optimization.
Last but not least, WHY do you think so many people are counting down the days and looking forward to the release of Ice Cream Sandwich?
Simple, because they are hoping it will solve issues many of which I've already mentioned, mainly the lag and the fact it's not running as smoothly as it should.
kanej2006 said:
Since when did I mention anything about the Note being faulty?
I simply said it is not performing as well as it should and most people will agree with me.
You are the one who implied that my Note is faulty, not me.
There is nothing wrong with my Note apart from it's sluggish performance.
Many other users on this forum have opened up threads with regards to performance issues as well as methods of trying to speed the Note up.
If you go through the first few pages of the Galaxy Note General section you will see several threads with forums regarding input lag, slowness & other response issues...
As katyarevishal kindly explained ONE big reason for the lag/slow downs of the Note is due to the high pixel density of the screen.
Aside from the pixel density the Note's performance is let down because of Gingerbread and it's poor optimization.
Last but not least, WHY do you think so many people are counting down the days and looking forward to the release of Ice Cream Sandwich?
Simple, because they are hoping it will solve issues many of which I've already mentioned, mainly the lag and the fact it's not running as smoothly as it should.
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Polls here show 80% of owners have no issues with the Note, get real.
Gaugerer said:
Polls here show 80% of owners have no issues with the Note, get real.
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I don't think it is the same if you say having issues and the phone has some issues. As I said before my phone has issues I don't have with the phone. They will get fixed some day
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Polls here show 80% of owners have no issues with the Note, get real.
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Polls here show: Out of the people who TOOK THE POLL, 80% of them have no issues.
Here is the poll you mentioned:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=7143
Sample size of 139 people.
80% which you have claimed have no issues = 111 individuals without problems.
This is not considering poll bias, skewed data, and other extra factors.
80% of Note users here on xda and 111 individuals who own a note here on xda are TWO different things.
So stop going around posting your canned 'it must be an individual problem, 80% of users love it, galaxy note is not faulty' responses and try to say something useful.
I can't tell if you're a troll, a horribly misguided fellow who doesn't understand how internet polls works, or just a terrible marketing intern
Well said aigoya, never did I say the Note was a bad device, only that it's performance was slightly sluggish and it's not performing as it should.
It's performance is being held back due to Gingerbread & will hopefully perform better in everyway when Ice Cream Sandwich is released, that's what many of us are hoping for.
I'm very happy with my Note in every other aspect.
As for Gaugerer I have no idea why he is having a go at me. We are here to discuss, help & trouble shoot, not troll and misguide others...
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Has anyone noticed that the Galaxy Note is not as fast as it should be? I compared it to a Galaxy S II and the SII was just buttery smooth in terms of speed compared to the Note. The more I played around with the SII the more I noticed the speed and smoothness difference, and it confused me because the Note has a faster processor so it leaves me wondering why the Note is slower.
EDIT: I don't know if anyone else has noticed but there seems to be a very slight lag between input and the phone responding, for nearly everything. From swiping/scrolling to opening up apps, there just seems to be a bit of lag. The SII does not have this, that I can see. Everything is almost instant on it, as soon as you give input to the SII it responds.
Also, for those of you who are lucky enough to have upgraded to 2.3.6, is there a noticeable difference in terms of general speed and smoothness?
Exactly.........
Same i observed as well with d demo piece kept in the shop.
Note is bit lagging than the galaxy s2.
Please answer the question. Did firmware update 2.3.6 improved performance?
Can ICS update make it as smooth as s2 or nexus?
Thanks in advance.
I dont know wat u guys are talking about.. My notes smooth.. And i had owned a s2 before..
And relax, its the initial days of the note... More updates will come. And ics is only gonna make it better
Sorry but I have to disagree. I would say my Note is buttery smooth, insanely quick & responsive...
I've never owned the previous Galaxy S2 but have tried it in the shop and it's no way any quicker, infact it was choppy at times...
I take it it depends what apps you are running since certain apps are buggy and cause problems such as the device being sluggish at times?
My note has never lagged or been slow. I'm running the stock launcher. I tried others but did not like them.
List of installed apps:
Flash Player
File Manager
Viz Battery
Wallpaper Wizardrii
Smart Keyboard
Beautiful Widgets
Angry Birds (all three)
Yahoo Messenger
Msn Messenger
Skype
Barcode Scanner
MixZing
MX Video Player
Adobe Reader
Opera
Equalizer
I notice that the Android OS uses about double the display. Also when typing fast there is lag. I know about freezing apps, but ill just wait for custom ROMs.
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i am so pleased to hear this.....
i have not yet bought it, yesterday for the first time i saw a demo piece.
Dont know why but i found it bit laggy. Maybe beacuse the expectations with which i went there.
anyways will need to see another demo piece b4 so that can buy without a doubt...
Bare in mind the note has ~3 times the resolution of the sgs2 and is only ~14% faster, presumably that accounts for the difference in experience some users have.
straxusii said:
Bare in mind the note has ~3 times the resolution of the sgs2 and is only ~14% faster, presumably that accounts for the difference in experience some users have.
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of course we know that.........
i just want to know is it really slow than S2? (whatever may be the reason)
I still got 2.3.5 I'm very picky about speed in my phone, one thing I have noticed is that whenever memory gets really full the device suffers, say for example you launch the default browser and it's choppy, just try this: launch the task manager and do a clear memory from the ram tab.relauncb the browser and compare the speed, lighting fast!
I belive that it somehow loses the hardware acceleration at one point, so next time you guys try one specially at a demo stand, just clear the ram and give it a go.
Input lag is something I haven't noticed, what's more typing using SwiftKey is truly an experience! Zero lag and lighting speed! So I wouldn't worry much about it I'm pretty sure it has more to do with the early stage of the firmware than the lack of hardware to do it.
I truly belive speed is not an issue on this device,it's by no means perfect but it's definitely an experience using this screen with this power under the hood
Also I totally agree about the underrated s-pen people still don't realise that this is not just a piece of plastic with a fine tip, the pen is not crappy one like the horrible stylus on windows mobile phones, this pen uses a magnetic technology developed by wacom, what this means is a mix between accuracy an speed of capacitive touch also let's not forget that it can detect and separate between a normal finger press and pen press it had the potential of doing mouse hovering, not yet implemented on gingerbread drivers, also it finally brings pressure sensitive to the artist so it truly can be used as a sketched on the go!
Download if you want to try the app
Multitouch visualizer 2, so you can see how accurate the pressure and the pen itself is!
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The only reason S2 is faster is because it has a laughable super low res WVGA display. Low pixel counts = faster rendering time.
Hi,
Please check the attachment. It is the screenshot of my version on my galaxy note.
I bought my phone yesterday. I connected and and updated firmware using samsung kies software. Now the screen is lagging while scrolling. Please check and suggest something.
Thanks
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Bare in mind the note has ~3 times the resolution of the sgs2 and is only ~14% faster, presumably that accounts for the difference in experience some users have.
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katyarevishal said:
of course we know that.........
i just want to know is it really slow than S2? (whatever may be the reason)
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dude he just said it
what more do you want to know?
gv.chaitanya8 said:
Hi,
Please check the attachment. It is the screenshot of my version on my galaxy note.
I bought my phone yesterday. I connected and and updated firmware using samsung kies software. Now the screen is lagging while scrolling. Please check and suggest something.
Thanks
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I just updated to DTB PDA KK9 and it feels smoother. Launcher Pro is not stuttering as it was. Battery life infinitely better. Still 50% after a long 16hr day of quite heavy use as opposed to 15% after 8hrs.
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Isn't the Note pushing twice the resolution of the GSII?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out folks
No lag on mine. Justas fast as any other device
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kanej2006 said:
I've never owned the previous Galaxy S2 but have tried it in the shop and it's no way any quicker, infact it was choppy at times...
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Probably because it was a demo unit.
I'm running exact same setup on both SGS2 and the Note (Launcher Pro, Widget Locker, etc) and SGS2 definitely is noticeably smoother than the Note in UI operations
Hey Guys,
ever since i use Android im kind of annoyed by the responsiveness of the tochscreen. Even with state of the art smartphones like the S3 (ICS version) there is substantial lag. (compared for instance to an iphone)
I was really excited when JellyBean was announced because as it seems, it addresses the issue.
However when i tried an S3 with JellyBean i still felt the lag.
My question is whether the Nexus 4 actually matches the Iphone in responsiveness.
(I do not mean the stuttering when opening for instance the app drawer, i mean the pure relation of the finger touching the device and the quickness of the response of the device.)
schnip said:
Hey Guys,
ever since i use Android im kind of annoyed by the responsiveness of the tochscreen. Even with state of the art smartphones like the S3 (ICS version) there is substantial lag. (compared for instance to an iphone)
I was really excited when JellyBean was announced because as it seems, it addresses the issue.
However when i tried an S3 with JellyBean i still felt the lag.
My question is whether the Nexus 4 actually matches the Iphone in responsiveness.
(I do not mean the stuttering when opening for instance the app drawer, i mean the pure relation of the finger touching the device and the quickness of the response of the device.)
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It uses the same new technology as the iPhone 5 which brings the touchpanel closer to the front glass meaning responsiveness should be significantly better. It's called In-Cell Touch display if you want to Google it.
You'll get a real answer when the phone comes out. Or check video reviews. We know as much as you do at this point.
Thanks for the answers enviii and ralexand!
The thing is, this input lag issue is very rarely adressed. It seems to me as if most poeple dont even notice it. It may be that im kinda picky there but its definitely a very important feature for me...
As the device has been released I would appreciate someone talking about the mentioned issue, who actually posseses the phone.
enviii said:
It uses the same new technology as the iPhone 5 which brings the touchpanel closer to the front glass meaning responsiveness should be significantly better. It's called In-Cell Touch display if you want to Google it.
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lol... that's just not true. It helps viewing angles, but has absolutely no effect on responsiveness.
The thing is, It could be or could not be,I think its just what peoples definition of smoothness and response is. Never know until the phones out. IMO
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The thing is, It could be or could not be,I think its just what peoples definition of smoothness and response is. Never know until the phones out. IMO
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Well for me the scale is definitely the iphone. (even still the 3G when scrolling homescreens) Also top notch Windows Phones offer very good responsiveness.
schnip said:
Hey Guys,
ever since i use Android im kind of annoyed by the responsiveness of the tochscreen. Even with state of the art smartphones like the S3 (ICS version) there is substantial lag. (compared for instance to an iphone)
I was really excited when JellyBean was announced because as it seems, it addresses the issue.
However when i tried an S3 with JellyBean i still felt the lag.
My question is whether the Nexus 4 actually matches the Iphone in responsiveness.
(I do not mean the stuttering when opening for instance the app drawer, i mean the pure relation of the finger touching the device and the quickness of the response of the device.)
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I guess it would be better for you to stay with iPhone.
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iPhone relies on a system that basically delivers all or much of the available resources to the graphical interface when scrolling, which slows down or stops whatever else the phone is doing at the time (ie stops loading a web page when you start scrolling or momentarily pauses a download). This, along with a very strong GPU, is much of the reason for the smooth interface. (note: this info was taken from an interview with a Google employee, probably about a year or less ago. Could be outdated, but I believe it's still true...)
4.1 ramped up graphics rendering FPS to 60fps. This, a long with a strong GPU, S4 Pro processor and (mainly) 2 gigs of ram should result in an incredibly smooth UI. Also, the curved glass on the edges of the screen have been noted to give a much smoother feel to scrolling, whether it's a placebo effect or not will just have to be determined over time.
Long story short...yeah, this thing should be smooth as butter (pun intended)
Also iOS is more optimized since its on for few devices.
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actually the big main reason for smoothness of ios vs android is that...every single application (basically everything) runs on virtual machines on the android unlike ios.. so it is true that the beefier the hardware the smoother the device..and thats y ios is able to run smooth even with lesser hardware..
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I guess it would be better for you to stay with iPhone.
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I have never owned an iphone and i never will. I love android but im always excited for new features and improvements!
tgtoys said:
iPhone relies on a system that basically delivers all or much of the available resources to the graphical interface when scrolling, which slows down or stops whatever else the phone is doing at the time (ie stops loading a web page when you start scrolling or momentarily pauses a download). This, along with a very strong GPU, is much of the reason for the smooth interface. (note: this info was taken from an interview with a Google employee, probably about a year or less ago. Could be outdated, but I believe it's still true...)
4.1 ramped up graphics rendering FPS to 60fps. This, a long with a strong GPU, S4 Pro processor and (mainly) 2 gigs of ram should result in an incredibly smooth UI. Also, the curved glass on the edges of the screen have been noted to give a much smoother feel to scrolling, whether it's a placebo effect or not will just have to be determined over time.
Long story short...yeah, this thing should be smooth as butter (pun intended)
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actually the big main reason for smoothness of ios vs android is that...every single application (basically everything) runs on virtual machines on the android unlike ios.. so it is true that the beefier the hardware the smoother the device..and thats y ios is able to run smooth even with lesser hardware..
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Thanks for this in-depth information. I have already known some of this from posts by google employees on their google+ pages.
I hope the changes introduced in JellyBean and the sheer performance of the Nexus 4 can overcome the innate performance issues of Android.
When someone has made first real life experiences with the device please let me know
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I have never owned an iphone and i never will. I love android but im always excited for new features and improvements!
Thanks for this in-depth information. I have already known some of this from posts by google employees on their google+ pages.
I hope the changes introduced in JellyBean and the sheer performance of the Nexus 4 can overcome the innate performance issues of Android.
When someone has made first real life experiences with the device please let me know
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I have a Nexus S (awaiting a 16GB N4) and I can tell you that Jellybean offered a tremendous improvement in smoothness.
As for the lack of improvement with the S3 and Jelly Bean, do keep in mind that is not "stock" Jellybean, Samsung may have avoided using any of the "project butter" code for their own GPU rendering.. Only Nexus devices are guaranteed the advertised improvements listed by Google, once an OEM touches there's no guarantee.
Only the framerate is high. There is MASSIVE input lag of 100-200ms on every Android device. As evidenced in every video of the Nexus 4 the screen lags behind your finger by 1 inch or more when swiping. This makes it feel extremely sluggish and unresponsive in apps like Facebook and games like Canabalt are unplayable.
I noticed this too when I first started messing around with my N4.
A test I like to do is use the calculator, and see how many numbers I could hit before they would be highlighted (which I assume means the device starts registering the command). For some reason I was getting 2 (almost 3) punches before the device would see it. On my Wildfire S and my iPod Touch the input lag was never this bad.
Amazingly, I actually found a solution. I don't remember if I turned it on myself or if it came on by default, but my phone had the "Magnification gestures" on. You can find them in the "Accessibility" settings. I turned it off, and BAM! The input lag has practically disappeared. I don't know why it was doing that or how it's related, but this has effectively fixed it for me. There may still be a slight input lag, but it's small enough that I can ignore it. Before it was easily over 500 ms.
Hope this helps.
I've made sure that's off on every Android device I've tested. The input lag is still considerably worse than the iPhone.
Just bought the Xperia Z and it is VERYYY Laggy. especially the transition animation. So considering that this phone uses the the same GPU i can expect similar performance then?
Trying it out in-store I found it juddered a bit scrolling in Polaris Office. Otherwise it seemed very smooth. But then again I found the XZ smooth too.
Isn't the Z on S4 pro?
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Isn't the Z on S4 pro?
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It is. Faster CPU but same GPU.
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Isn't the Z on S4 pro?
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Yes, but they share the same GPU.
any lag will be casued by the sony skin software. the GPU is completely capable.
The nexus 4 using pure android never lags or stutters and is always buttery smooth. even my old galaxy nexus was soother than say a galaxy s3.
I know exactly what you are talking about, had Z for 2 days and was very disappointed. I agree that lags are caused by poor optimization done by sony, expecially sony's own launcher. After I switched to Nova Launcher, things were a lot better.
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any lag will be casued by the sony skin software. the GPU is completely capable.
The nexus 4 using pure android never lags or stutters and is always buttery smooth. even my old galaxy nexus was soother than say a galaxy s3.
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I don't know about yours, but I don't think mine is 100% buttery smooth. Minimum apps installed (maybe like 6-7?) and widgets on home screen, but scrolling through apps/widgets drawer still seems a "little" bit from perfect.
do u mean when scrolling in the app draw and noticing a quick jitter as you scroll from the final page of apps to the first widget page?
if so, i get that, that i accostum to being a coding glitch simply because everything else is completely smooth. I had the same on my galaxy nexus too.
mark99uk said:
any lag will be casued by the sony skin software. the GPU is completely capable.
The nexus 4 using pure android never lags or stutters and is always buttery smooth. even my old galaxy nexus was soother than say a galaxy s3.
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Nexus 4 is 720 p whereas these phones are 1080p which has to push more than twice the amount of pixels.
zcui said:
I know exactly what you are talking about, had Z for 2 days and was very disappointed. I agree that lags are caused by poor optimization done by sony, expecially sony's own launcher. After I switched to Nova Launcher, things were a lot better.
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Not for me dude its maybe like 20% better? Still terrible and im hoping this phone would be better.
The stutterings are due to the skin optimization by the OEM eg. Sony here....Dont know about htcone but mostof the video and hands on have shown there is no lag.
Apart from that i would like to state that why is android (or OEM skins) still laggy? I mean we are on quads and octa cores, capable gpu and 2gb of ram...And yet its not as smooth as a windows or ios? And i dont want to hear the usual 'android does more multi tasking and widgets' discussion. Seriously how much more power u want?
I am saying this bcoz its sad to hear a fellow xda saying how dissapointed he was to get a brand new phone (for which he must be so excited) and then the lag puts him off.
Fasty12 said:
Just bought the Xperia Z and it is VERYYY Laggy. especially the transition animation. So considering that this phone uses the the same GPU i can expect similar performance then?
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Different CPU do help in different performance even though both same GPU. I was suprise when seen people mention Xperia Z was lagging, I seen everywhere people mention it. I never own any Sony (/SE) android phone as it always never meet my requirement in certain part especially the screen. But I am really surprise Xperia Z could lag! HTC Butterfly was completely same CPU + GPU, I test it before, it run perfectly smooth.
Xperia Z - Snapdragon S4 Pro
One - Snapdragon S600
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The stutterings are due to the skin optimization by the OEM eg. Sony here....Dont know about htcone but mostof the video and hands on have shown there is no lag.
Apart from that i would like to state that why is android (or OEM skins) still laggy? I mean we are on quads and octa cores, capable gpu and 2gb of ram...And yet its not as smooth as a windows or ios? And i dont want to hear the usual 'android does more multi tasking and widgets' discussion. Seriously how much more power u want?
I am saying this bcoz its sad to hear a fellow xda saying how dissapointed he was to get a brand new phone (for which he must be so excited) and then the lag puts him off.
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Yea man im gutted welp guess the gs4 with its octa cpu have a chance.
used the htc one in store and it didnt lag a bit, even through blinkfeed which i would imagine is one of the most heavy of applications.
Hopefully the sony is just a bit of poorly written software and either sony or the devs can fix.
Still i think it will make a lot of peoples choice between the sony and htc very easy!
I had a play around with the Z a couple of weeks ago in a 3 store and found the pinch and zoom gestures very how can I say intermittent to say the least, it was fine scrolling left and right but any gestures took at least 2 or 3 attempts and on a flagship phone that is totally crap.
Best bet like another poster said is to put on a 3rd party launcher until sony fix the issue.
ethan3686 said:
The stutterings are due to the skin optimization by the OEM eg. Sony here....Dont know about htcone but mostof the video and hands on have shown there is no lag.
Apart from that i would like to state that why is android (or OEM skins) still laggy? I mean we are on quads and octa cores, capable gpu and 2gb of ram...And yet its not as smooth as a windows or ios? And i dont want to hear the usual 'android does more multi tasking and widgets' discussion. Seriously how much more power u want?
I am saying this bcoz its sad to hear a fellow xda saying how dissapointed he was to get a brand new phone (for which he must be so excited) and then the lag puts him off.
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+1 mate, really have no idea what the folks are doing at Google...
Stock android on my s3 lags when I have a few things running...seriously these CPUs are starting to reach speeds of my desktop PC....and I wonder why I can't make a day without recharging lol
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My gs3 lag with touchwiz i use temask rom now, its very good. Because of this i Dont buy the gs4. I give a chance tô HTC.
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+1 mate, really have no idea what the folks are doing at Google...
Stock android on my s3 lags when I have a few things running...seriously these CPUs are starting to reach speeds of my desktop PC....and I wonder why I can't make a day without recharging lol
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That's because you have a horrible exynos SoC in your phone, which is all but impossible to dev for. This is the fault of Samsung alone...
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Fasty12 said:
Just bought the Xperia Z and it is VERYYY Laggy. especially the transition animation. So considering that this phone uses the the same GPU i can expect similar performance then?
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HTC One X with Tegra 3 and stock JB firmware, UI is locked 60fps
Droid DNA with Snapdragon 4 pro and stock JB firmware, UI is locked 60fps
HTC One is using a faster version of the DNA and Z processors, same but more optimized GPU and much lighter Sense UI, all reviewers noted the UI is liquid smooth and brisk
Since JB HTC's UI has been locked 60fps in 90% of the OS areas, they've implemented google's project butter in full fashion
I was watching some hands on videos of the S4 and was pretty disappointed to see that the interface is laggy in some areas and overall less than perfectly smooth. There's absolutely no excuse for it considering how powerful the hardware is, and shows that Samsung's priorities are all wrong (throwing in a hundred random new features but neglecting the basics of the user experience). But I've seen some comments saying those were just pre-production units. Is that just a fanboy excuse or can we really expect to see a major improvement in smoothness by launch? Is there lag on the Galaxy S3 for anyone who's owned one? UI lag is my biggest pet peeve, and that alone is making me consider the HTC One for the first time despite the S4 beating it in almost everything else.
I have noticed in some S3 vs HTC One videos, that the S3 took considerably longer time to show the homescreen when leaving an app by pressing the home button. In some videos I think I might have seen the same thing on the S4. Maybe it's TouchWiz, maybe it's just that the device is not final or so many other apps were open in the background.
Wait for reviews of final hardware.
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Samsungs Launcher software was always a master on being laggy. Especially at the first releases. But after a few updates this lags flew out.
It will be the same on the S4.
Every hands on I've seen so far seems fine to me. If there is any 'lag' going to homescreen, it's because of Touchwiz waiting for that hold or double press for voice control. (Can't remember which it is.)
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I was watching some hands on videos of the S4 and was pretty disappointed to see that the interface is laggy in some areas and overall less than perfectly smooth. There's absolutely no excuse for it considering how powerful the hardware is, and shows that Samsung's priorities are all wrong (throwing in a hundred random new features but neglecting the basics of the user experience). But I've seen some comments saying those were just pre-production units. Is that just a fanboy excuse or can we really expect to see a major improvement in smoothness by launch? Is there lag on the Galaxy S3 for anyone who's owned one? UI lag is my biggest pet peeve, and that alone is making me consider the HTC One for the first time despite the S4 beating it in almost everything else.
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Bad software to blame.
An octa-core has no excuse.
Livebyte said:
Bad software to blame.
An octa-core has no excuse.
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Beta software to blame.
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Beta software to blame.
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+1
my note 2 is lag free so there's absolutely no reason for the gs4 to lag with either cpu
Baldilocks said:
Every hands on I've seen so far seems fine to me. If there is any 'lag' going to homescreen, it's because of Touchwiz waiting for that hold or double press for voice control. (Can't remember which it is.)
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This is the reason, that's why the S Voice double press option gets disabled straight away
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Beta software to blame.
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Exactly. Thank God there are still smart people around. Its because it is beta and not final software. Samsung phones are the most fluid phones out there besides the nexus line ( jelly bean era). The S3 had many Jelly bean leaks ( 10 or more) just 2 weeks before the final version was released. The first leak was very laggy, by the 3rd it was starting to be ok, by the 7th or 8th you could feel project butter. The S IV is shipping in a month so whatever lag there is, it will probably be gone.
Samsung's fanboys wont admit it , but the SGS2/3/Note1/2/10.1 lag out of the box.
Just walk in a Staples or a BB and try a Note 10.1. It is extremely laggy.
You need to disable all the crapwares/bloatwares if you want to feel this tablet runs like an iPad.
I never understood why Samsung let their demos(out of the box devices) be so unpleasant to use.
Some are saying Google cant live without Samsung but I say a Motorola Google X available with all the carriers would remove Samsung from the number one Android phones.
Samsung need to be bumped asap
Bagbug said:
Samsung's fanboys wont admit it , but the SGS2/3/Note1/2/10.1 lag out of the box.
Just walk in a Staples or a BB and try a Note 10.1. It is extremely laggy.
You need to disable all the crapwares/bloatwares if you want to feel this tablet runs like an iPad.
I never understood why Samsung let their demos(out of the box devices) be so unpleasant to use.
Some are saying Google cant live without Samsung but I say a Motorola Google X available with all the carriers would remove Samsung from the number one Android phones.
Samsung need to be bumped asap
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There hasn't been a good Motorola phone since the original RAZR.
It is very laggy with smart stay and smart scroll turned on. Turn them off and it is much improved.
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I was watching some hands on videos of the S4 and was pretty disappointed to see that the interface is laggy in some areas and overall less than perfectly smooth. There's absolutely no excuse for it considering how powerful the hardware is, and shows that Samsung's priorities are all wrong (throwing in a hundred random new features but neglecting the basics of the user experience). But I've seen some comments saying those were just pre-production units. Is that just a fanboy excuse or can we really expect to see a major improvement in smoothness by launch? Is there lag on the Galaxy S3 for anyone who's owned one? UI lag is my biggest pet peeve, and that alone is making me consider the HTC One for the first time despite the S4 beating it in almost everything else.
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I wouldn't judge till we saw a final production model.
Closed Source Project said:
I have noticed in some S3 vs HTC One videos, that the S3 took considerably longer time to show the homescreen when leaving an app by pressing the home button. In some videos I think I might have seen the same thing on the S4. Maybe it's TouchWiz, maybe it's just that the device is not final or so many other apps were open in the background.
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Of course it's going to lag when you hit home. You have to deactivate S Voice double tap home launch. The SGS4 is going to wait a split second or 2 to see if you hit home again to launch S Voice. Deactivate that and it would have just went home.
I did notice a little bit of lag when the phones were being demoed, but quite honestly these are pre-release models. It could be as simple as the phone not killing its tasks after it opens up 7 or 10 apps. What if the person before opened up a few browsers, the camera, gallery, flipboard, a game, etc?
Again, I'll judge when the thing actually comes out or when GSM Arena gets a hold of a final production model.
Bagbug said:
Samsung's fanboys wont admit it , but the SGS2/3/Note1/2/10.1 lag out of the box.
Just walk in a Staples or a BB and try a Note 10.1. It is extremely laggy.
You need to disable all the crapwares/bloatwares if you want to feel this tablet runs like an iPad.
I never understood why Samsung let their demos(out of the box devices) be so unpleasant to use.
Some are saying Google cant live without Samsung but I say a Motorola Google X available with all the carriers would remove Samsung from the number one Android phones.
Samsung need to be bumped asap
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Listen to this guy lol. Note 2, s3,s2 do not lag out of the box, note 1 yes when it didnt have jelly bean, dont know now. Dont know aqbout note 10.1 either. You speak like a hater, keep on hating
barondebxl said:
Listen to this guy lol. Note 2, s3,s2 do not lag out of the box, note 1 yes when it didnt have jelly bean, dont know now. Dont know aqbout note 10.1 either. You speak like a hater, keep on hating
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The Jelly Bean update that samsung gave to the galaxy note 1 is probably the worst update I have seen. It is buggy, slow and laggy! Even after removing all the bloat taking it down to 236MB it is still laggy and slow. This is one of the reasons why I am not going to go with any sammy device, poor support and bad optimisation hardware-software wise
XxPixX said:
The Jelly Bean update that samsung gave to the galaxy note 1 is probably the worst update I have seen. It is buggy, slow and laggy! Even after removing all the bloat taking it down to 236MB it is still laggy and slow. This is one of the reasons why I am not going to go with any sammy device, poor support and bad optimisation hardware-software wise
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Yeah i'm not sure about the note1, i had early 2012 when it had ICS. But i had the S3 and note 2, both were fast and fluid with little to no lag at all, especially the note 2 thanks to the 2 gigs or Ram.
I play a lot Samsung and own some of it.
Samsung Lagging phone/tablet
- Note
- Tab 10.1 (This one is pure rubbish)
Samsung not so smooth interface
- S II ( franky said that only 4.1.2 france ROM with S III interface run quite well here.. hmm)
- S III International Edition (it actually quite nice now using XperianZe ROM, means latest touchwiz to blame not really capable for 1GB device)
- Note 10.1
Samsung with well acceptable interface smoothness, not smooth interface (some sort like cut frame) was keep to extreme minimal
- S III LTE edition
- Note II
- Nexus 10
Base on above, and current spec, I believe in final, S 4 will running smooth on it interface.
dlutz8 said:
It is very laggy with smart stay and smart scroll turned on. Turn them off and it is much improved.
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so whats the reason then for them to exist? if they make the phone laggy? asked no-one in samsung apperently...
U all must read this
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2014/...f-samsung-galaxy-note-10-1/#readsoruce_bottom
Enjoy...
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Yeah we all know its an awesomely fast device...well mine is lol
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There are lies, there are damned lies, and - oh yes - then there are benchmarks.
I know our tablet is fast and feels snappy. I, however, wouldn't trust any isolated single benchmark, whatever its results are. I'm sure there are enough of them with opposite results.
The Sammy is a great tablet, but those folks are eating tainted mushrooms if they believe their results. I trust Anandtech more and they show the Air is faster. That said, seems arbitrary as a comparison since not same platform. My iPad 4 seems faster than the Sammy, so not a straight comparison.
Did Samsung pay for this analysis?
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The Sammy is a great tablet, but those folks are eating tainted mushrooms if they believe their results. I trust Anandtech more and they show the Air is faster. That said, seems arbitrary as a comparison since not same platform. My iPad 4 seems faster than the Sammy, so not a straight comparison.
Did Samsung pay for this analysis?
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I am not sure where you got that info from but they show the Air has a faster GPU and that is about it. Also Apple has focused on graphics power not cpu power of late. Comparing the Note 10.1 2014 and the Air are a bit skewed anyhow due to the Note being much more than a consumption device having the S pen and apps for the S pen.
Its funny to read those comments from obvious ipad owners.
I think regardless of the benchmark "scam" from Samsung and any other makes, its pretty obvious that Note 10.1 14 generally will perform the fastest by just looking at the specs.
I bet even Note 3 will beat ipad air in those tests.
jinda628 said:
Its funny to read those comments from obvious ipad owners.
I think regardless of the benchmark "scam" from Samsung and any other makes, its pretty obvious that Note 10.1 14 generally will perform the fastest by just looking at the specs.
I bet even Note 3 will beat ipad air in those tests.
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The fastest device with 3 sec delay when you want to turn on display.
Big shame for Samsung.
The note 10.1 2014 and Android in general usually has more power than ios devices. But ios has better optimization in both OS and games so in real life use there isn't a real difference that you can feel.
The note is awesome and extremely fast though. I'm completely happy. It does a very good job at psp emulation already which is amazing. Most psp games run twice as fast than on my sgs3. Games that barely run smooth in native resolution on sgs3 run at 2x or even 3x on the note! Which results in better graphics than most playstore apps... And emulation is always a good way to measure processing power (even though the app ppsspp could be more optimized).
gregy74 said:
The fastest device with 3 sec delay when you want to turn on display.
Big shame for Samsung.
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I dont know about this. This can be old news as I dont see this on any of the samsung's I've tried recently.
But seriously, people are *****ing about samsung OC'ing the system while running the benchmarks.
1. Isn't it the point of running the bench? To see the full potential of your device?
2. People will ask why not on normal usage? What app uses all 4 cores anyway to the max?
3. Its not only samsung doing that.
4. With test OC'ing or not, one will be faster than the other in real life. Ipad Air maybe faster in browsing then Note is faster in multitasking, etc? Its all personal preference in the end so this argument will not end.
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I dont know about this. This can be old news as I dont see this on any of the samsung's I've tried recently.
But seriously, people are *****ing about samsung OC'ing the system while running the benchmarks.
1. Isn't it the point of running the bench? To see the full potential of your device?
2. People will ask why not on normal usage? What app uses all 4 cores anyway to the max?
3. Its not only samsung doing that.
4. With test OC'ing or not, one will be faster than the other in real life. Ipad Air maybe faster in browsing then Note is faster in multitasking, etc? Its all personal preference in the end so this argument will not end.
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Mine does have a 2 second delay tbf but I know once I (UK) get the most recent updates it will be fine but overall considering it does TONS more stuff over any tablet out there i dont mind waiting 2 seconds for awesomeness haha
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As an owner I will say that it is probably the best tablet currently on the market but it is far from perfect. Most noticeable is the lag and the bleed.
Also the tablet with most problems! I dont care if its the fastest and just want Samsung to have better quality control with theirs products.
Mininum light bleeds, touchscreens issues, battery problems etc.. Too name few problems on Note 2014 and also Note 3 have same problems.
When the devices costs this much and U expect a working unit.
Galaxy Note SM-P605
gregy74 said:
The fastest device with 3 sec delay when you want to turn on display.
Big shame for Samsung.
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I can only repeat and repeat it again: only some users have this delay. Others not. So, still the question is, why you have the delay?
jinda628 said:
Its funny to read those comments from obvious ipad owners.
I think regardless of the benchmark "scam" from Samsung and any other makes, its pretty obvious that Note 10.1 14 generally will perform the fastest by just looking at the specs.
I bet even Note 3 will beat ipad air in those tests.
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I have an iPad 4, TF300, T270, Nook HD+ with CM and a Venue 11 Pro 5130. No fanboy here, but the iPad 4 seemed faster than the Sammy that I tested but ended up not buying.
Looking though to replace all my current Android tablets with one, but waiting for the 32gb to go down $100.
dt33 said:
Also the tablet with most problems! I dont care if its the fastest and just want Samsung to have better quality control with theirs products.
Mininum light bleeds, touchscreens issues, battery problems etc.. Too name few problems on Note 2014 and also Note 3 have same problems.
When the devices costs this much and U expect a working unit.
Galaxy Note SM-P605
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I dont know how much of the total percentage have these problems. I've only bought 3 Samsung gadgets so far, from Note 2, to Note 3 and recently the 10.1 14. First thing I check is the screen, no dead pixels, no light bleeds and any other problems so far. Haven't returned anything.
We must remember that complains get posted in threads and good things most probably are not. Are you gonna go to the complaints section if you are happy?
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I have an iPad 4, TF300, T270, Nook HD+ with CM and a Venue 11 Pro 5130. No fanboy here, but the iPad 4 seemed faster than the Sammy that I tested but ended up not buying.
Looking though to replace all my current Android tablets with one, but waiting for the 32gb to go down $100.
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I think it depends on where you are comparing it, like what samsung model?
I dont see my sister's Ipad 4 getting near the speed I'm getting from my Note 3 and I'm still running stock/unrooted.
Smoothness in iOS and 4.3+ right now is really hard to see bare eyes. But I admit iOS have less to none micro lags compared to Samsung's TW. It becomes irrelevant when its rooted and running ROMs though, as Note 3 or Note 10.1 is really fast.
But when it comes to handling multiple apps, multitasking, flexibility, etc, its just so far apart with Note models taking the cake.
I think the new iPad Air is really good. Apple is unbeatable with craftsmanship and build quality. But I'll honestly get bored of it easily for sure.
jinda628 said:
I dont know about this. This can be old news as I dont see this on any of the samsung's I've tried recently.
But seriously, people are *****ing about samsung OC'ing the system while running the benchmarks.
1. Isn't it the point of running the bench? To see the full potential of your device?
2. People will ask why not on normal usage? What app uses all 4 cores anyway to the max?
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Just wanted to chime in here:
1. No, the point of running a benchmark is to what benchmarks the user may perceive when using day to day applications. You tablet doesnt overclock it self, like when benchmarking, in day to day applications. Its cheating. Period.
2. Incorrect. A lot of apps will use four cores. Get yourself a good analyzer like "Android Tuner" or "System Tuner" or similiar app and you can gauge it yourself.
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I can only repeat and repeat it again: only some users have this delay. Others not. So, still the question is, why you have the delay?
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The delay comes from the Exynos processor. The delay is built in and intentional. The tablet goes to a deep sleep with Exynos chips. This makes it more energy efficient. If the tablet doesnt deep sleep as quick as it does the batter is just wasted if the screen is off and idle.
To prove this on the P600 is very easy... Turn tablet on, open web browser return to home screen. Power off, 1 second later, power on.
Now do the same thing again this time power off for 30 seconds then power on. You may notice a 1 to 1.5 second longer delay in turning on as it comes out "deep sleep"
Some people are also a lot more sensitive to this delay which makes it seem like a terrible delay. However I have the Samsung Book Cover and by the time I open it and flap the cover all the way back the tablet is on. The delay is never even seen.
Another thing to keep in mind is specification errata on these chips. There are multiple bins that all can be seen in kernel source code. Each bin requires different voltages (I do know that much) but I dont know the affect binning has on wake time.
Also to the OP;
This is not a faster tablet than Nexus 7 2013
Benchmarks may tell you it is... But its not.
Also Qualcomm decided to hold back on the specific dalvik binary processing librarys, once you add those in the Nexus 7 2013 blows away any tablet I have EVER used. And I can assure you, I have used more than the average has.
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Just wanted to chime in here:
1. No, the point of running a benchmark is to what benchmarks the user may perceive when using day to day applications. You tablet doesnt overclock it self, like when benchmarking, in day to day applications. Its cheating. Period.
2. Incorrect. A lot of apps will use four cores. Get yourself a good analyzer like "Android Tuner" or "System Tuner" or similiar app and you can gauge it yourself.
The delay comes from the Exynos processor. The delay is built in and intentional. The tablet goes to a deep sleep with Exynos chips. This makes it more energy efficient. If the tablet doesnt deep sleep as quick as it does the batter is just wasted if the screen is off and idle.
To prove this on the P600 is very easy... Turn tablet on, open web browser return to home screen. Power off, 1 second later, power on.
Now do the same thing again this time power off for 30 seconds then power on. You may notice a 1 to 1.5 second longer delay in turning on as it comes out "deep sleep"
Some people are also a lot more sensitive to this delay which makes it seem like a terrible delay. However I have the Samsung Book Cover and by the time I open it and flap the cover all the way back the tablet is on. The delay is never even seen.
Another thing to keep in mind is specification errata on these chips. There are multiple bins that all can be seen in kernel source code. Each bin requires different voltages (I do know that much) but I dont know the affect binning has on wake time.
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Hi.
Sorry to inform you, but I have P605 32GB and have the same issue. The tablet only start without delay after a reboot and one time. I clean tablet from apps and still face the problem (yes is really annoying).
gregy74 said:
The fastest device with 3 sec delay when you want to turn on display.
Big shame for Samsung.
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Disabling both "Wake up command" and "Open via the home key" in S Voice will remove the delay.
scrosler said:
Just wanted to chime in here:
1. No, the point of running a benchmark is to what benchmarks the user may perceive when using day to day applications. You tablet doesnt overclock it self, like when benchmarking, in day to day applications. Its cheating. Period.
2. Incorrect. A lot of apps will use four cores. Get yourself a good analyzer like "Android Tuner" or "System Tuner" or similiar app and you can gauge it yourself.
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1. Does the tablet usually use its full potential or power on a day to day basis? Its like running a benchmark on an overclocked computer. You dont usually overclock when browsing the internet and even on playing demanding games if your rig can handle the game easily on stock clocks. You OC a PC and run benchmark to see how powerful it can run. But you dont let it stay OC'ed everyday to do normal things.
2. Ok, a lot of apps use for cores but is it always running on max clock? I doubt that.
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Also to the OP;
This is not a faster tablet than Nexus 7 2013
Benchmarks may tell you it is... But its not.
Also Qualcomm decided to hold back on the specific dalvik binary processing librarys, once you add those in the Nexus 7 2013 blows away any tablet I have EVER used. And I can assure you, I have used more than the average has.
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I dont know how Nexus 7 can be faster than this Note when on the same SoC type, Nexus 7 run max @ 1.5Ghz and Note is @ 2.3Ghz?
Even the 3 vs 2 GB ram can mean something.