So I tend to answer more questions that I ask on here, but now it's my turn!!
So, I've noticed at times that my KF is totally unresponsive from sleep. No power light, nothing. I have to press the power button for 20 seconds, then again to power on. This used to happen every so often on the Stock ROM.
However, since I've been on CM7 w/ TWRP/FFF, it hangs up every single day. At first I thought it was due to low charge, but it's doing it whilst the battery is over 90% full. I've had a nose around the CM7 settings and tweaks, but can't see anything obvious.
Running services at startup are:
Settings (presumably because I'm looking at settings to see this info!)
Google Services
Amazon Video (Not sure why this is running. I may uninstall to see if this is the problem) - Uninstalled. Will see how it goes.
DSPManager
Swype
Anybody else seen this? Anybody else got any ideas on how to resolve this?
Do a search for V6 SuperCharger and do some research on it I use it on my Fire and my 2 Android Phones it really helps with memory management
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I've not experienced this problem. My kindle fire has been pretty much perfect and I've never had to force a reboot. I'm also using the Sywpe keyboard.
asb2164 said:
Do a search for V6 SuperCharger and do some research on it I use it on my Fire and my 2 Android Phones it really helps with memory management
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Thanks, but I don't think memory is the problem here (I have 282MB free system memory right now). Something is putting it to sleep permanently.
I guess it's going to be a process of elimination. I might possibly go back to stock to see if it's really CM7 or the device hardware itself playing up.
sl0ttedpig said:
Thanks, but I don't think memory is the problem here (I have 282MB free system memory right now). Something is putting it to sleep permanently.
I guess it's going to be a process of elimination. I might possibly go back to stock to see if it's really CM7 or the device hardware itself playing up.
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I would not even bother reading the information I provided, reading is pretty hard chase a lot of gremlins first instead of the running a Script.
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asb2164 said:
I would not even bother reading the information I provided, reading is pretty hard chase a lot of gremlins first instead of the running a Script.
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Wow, seriously?!
I *did* read about it, and concluded that it was a memory management app. Given my symptoms, I cannot find one example of where this app would help me, and I'm not about to install something that is possibly just going to add further variables to an already odd behavior.
Show me where you think it's going to help (specific examples), and I'll gladly accept your thanks/suggestions.
Until then, I would ask you keep your snark for sites like Slashdot.
You did not read about it if you had you would have known it is not an app but a Script.
I do not hold people's hand and give links I make you search for it I am sure someone will come along and make you a video
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asb2164 said:
You did not read about it if you had you would have known it is not an app but a Script.
I do not hold people's hand and give links I make you search for it I am sure someone will come along and make you a video
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Again, Wow Seriously?!
Your definition of me not reading is based on me calling it an app over a script!? Interesting logic there.
However, I'm still wondering how you deduce that this is going to help my problem, and hence why I asked for specifics. I'm quite capable of finding information, but it's like you saying to me "Dude, install Angry Birds, it will solve all your problems". My conclusion was that there was nothing in that post that specifies "This will also help your system if it sleeps permanently" (clearly I'm paraphrasing there, just in case that wasn't clear). If I'm missing something, I'm all ears, but blindly recommending apps for no reason is no help to anyone.
Other than almost every decent ROM you will find on XDA already has this built into it and it will help I will leave it at that.
You also may try to wipe Data, Cache and Dalvik I usually do that at least 3 times on my HTC EVO Shift when I flash a new rom before it runs good.
Try that and see if it helps.
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Other than almost every decent ROM you will find on XDA already has this built into it and it will help I will leave it at that.
You also may try to wipe Data, Cache and Dalvik I usually do that at least 3 times on my HTC EVO Shift when I flash a new rom before it runs good.
Try that and see if it helps.
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It may well be the CM7 ROM that was compiled for the KF, but what also makes me suspicious now is for the number of reads on this thread, not one other person has said "Yeah, I have the same issues", which either leads me to believe its a resident app, or possibly something wrong with my hardware. I'll keep digging, and possibly flash back to stock (as I said).
For the benefit of doubt, I'll always do a Factory Reset, and wipe all the Cache/Dalvik Cache. It's something I've done since I was flashing ROM's on my first Droid. But thanks for the suggestion.
You may have a bad flash back up your apps and re-flash CM7 and restore your apps and see if that helps.
I have rooted and flashed a lot of phones and I have had that happen a couple of times I re did the flash and everything was fine.
asb2164 said:
You may have a bad flash back up your apps and re-flash CM7 and restore your apps and see if that helps.
I have rooted and flashed a lot of phones and I have had that happen a couple of times I re did the flash and everything was fine.
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I guess it's entirely possible. I'll do a Titanium Backup now, re-flash, and see what happens. But as mentioned in my OP, I had this happen on stock 6.2, just not as frequently, so I'll be hoping that it is a bad flash, and not something inherently worse.
See how much better this conversation is now!
Sounds fishy to me as well. Did you clear the caches when installing new ROMs? I've had mine since it was release and have yet to have it hang and I've had 6.1,6.2, and now CM7 running flawlessly
Your problem is a bit unique so I don't mind throwing out a few ideas.
Mine is solid as a rock I am ready for a good overclocking kernel so I can stretch it's legs
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altitude909 said:
Sounds fishy to me as well. Did you clear the caches when installing new ROMs? I've had mine since it was release and have yet to have it hang and I've had 6.1,6.2, and now CM7 running flawlessly
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Yep, I always clear everything when moving to a new ROM. It's a habit that was drilled into me during my first custom ROM exploits on my Droid. I've even told people on here to do it too, so I'm practicing what I'm preaching!
I think what I'm going to do is, reflash to stock 6.2.1, use the new root method, push TWRP/FFF again, and then CM7. A little drastic, but I think that having a clean run at this might prove/disprove the theory.
My stock rom does this occasionally. Have to hold the power button for 20 secs to reset it.
krelvinaz said:
My stock rom does this occasionally. Have to hold the power button for 20 secs to reset it.
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Yeah, this is happening a little too frequently for my liking. Occasionally is fairly OK, every day is not. But it has got worse since going to CM7, but that could be purely coincidence at this point.
Trying some different things right now, but it will be a few days before I know for certain.
This may not be the problem at all, but I'll toss it out here anyway. On some of my Archos tablets, I have had this issue where the screen brightness was set very low. Anyway, if your brightness is set low, you might increase it to see if that makes a difference. I don't remember exactly at what level this problem starts, but I think it is when it is set below 20%.
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This may not be the problem at all, but I'll toss it out here anyway. On some of my Archos tablets, I have had this issue where the screen brightness was set very low. Anyway, if your brightness is set low, you might increase it to see if that makes a difference. I don't remember exactly at what level this problem starts, but I think it is when it is set below 20%.
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Thanks, that hadn't crossed my mind, but I like my brightness at a pretty high level, and as the sensor is not working currently, it pretty much stays at that level.
Back at stock 6.2.1 now. Going to root it and leave it like this for a few days to see what happens.
sl0ttedpig said:
It may well be the CM7 ROM that was compiled for the KF, but what also makes me suspicious now is for the number of reads on this thread, not one other person has said "Yeah, I have the same issues", which either leads me to believe its a resident app, or possibly something wrong with my hardware. I'll keep digging, and possibly flash back to stock (as I said).
For the benefit of doubt, I'll always do a Factory Reset, and wipe all the Cache/Dalvik Cache. It's something I've done since I was flashing ROM's on my first Droid. But thanks for the suggestion.
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Not sure if you have resloved this issue, but having read most of the Forum Dev Thread for the CM7 initial release and the newest reboot of the first ROM I think many others are having this issue as well. I remember reading many post people were referring to something similar to your problem as "the sleep of death." I however am not having that problem with mine, but thought it might be helpful to know that it might not be your device specific and may be something with CM7 itself with some devices.
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First of all, I know that I have read about this problem in other threads but I cannot find it; I think it was associated with custom ROMs but I'm not entirely sure.
I have two problems with my sound right now:
popping
Every time the tables boots up the speakers pop. No a big deal and it might be just because they get activated and the current causes the pop. But every time a sound is made? That is annoying!
humming/screeching/buzzing
Now this is the scariest problem. The sound that comes from "within" the tablet, i.e. behind the screen and not the actual speakers. It does not always appear but seems to be linked to apps trying to use sound. It almost sounds like a hard drive spinning irregularly or a distant old dial-up modem (weird analogy, I know). I don't know what's causing it but in my opinion it's not a good sign.
Again, if anyone here remembers where it has been discussed already I will take the blow as long as I can find out if the problem(s) have been solved somewhere.
Thanks y'all!
1. Everyone's device does that. It's just the way the device wakes the speakers before playing a sound as you say. Would hope Asus could do something about that in the future.
2. It sounds like you are hearing the screen's backlight frequency. Not everyone will hear this (as we lose the ability to hear certain frequencies as we get older), but again it happens with everyones device, and is normal with any screen using a backlight.
Do you have a custom rom on it?
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Do you have a custom rom on it?
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Yes, I do. I use the PRIME! 1.4 ROM and the blades-clemsyn overclock kernel. It has been an issue since the 3.1 upgrade I think. Never had it stock though so I cannot comment on issues with the stock ROM, unfortunately.
stuntdouble said:
2. It sounds like you are hearing the screen's backlight frequency. Not everyone will hear this (as we lose the ability to hear certain frequencies as we get older), but again it happens with everyones device, and is normal with any screen using a backlight.
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What makes this theory a bit wobbly is that the sound isn't always there. It seems to be application-specific. I would expect a backlight frequency (like a fluorescence bulb?) to be audible whenever the backlight is on and not during one application running but not the other.
Process of elimination.
Roll back to stock and see if the problem occurs. If so, sounds like you’re going to have to return it for an exchange.
smellmyfingers said:
Process of elimination.
Roll back to stock and see if the problem occurs. If so, sounds like you’re going to have to return it for an exchange.
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The scientific way, I like your idea
Do you also know if there has been a use for the SBK to enable root for the stock ROM?
funnycreature said:
What makes this theory a bit wobbly is that the sound isn't always there. It seems to be application-specific. I would expect a backlight frequency (like a fluorescence bulb?) to be audible whenever the backlight is on and not during one application running but not the other.
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Each app will tell your device to process the images onscreen in different ways, whether thats the refresh rate, resolution or just pixel density, so you would still get different frequencies from different apps all the time. Anyway I'm not saying that's 100% the reason, it's just a possibilty based on what you were describing.
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Each app will tell your device to process the images onscreen in different ways, whether thats the refresh rate, resolution or just pixel density, so you would still get different frequencies from different apps all the time. Anyway I'm not saying that's 100% the reason, it's just a possibilty based on what you were describing.
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Very good points! Never thought of it this way... Do you also think it's worth going back to stock and try to figure it all out or just take it "as is"?
If it is what I thought it was, it won't make a difference which rom you use, and it's a normal feature of the tablet. You must live in a very quiet place to hear it all the time or have very sensitive ears. If it's not that, then trying another rom as mentioned above may help you narrow down the list of causes. If it's annoying you too much then possibly it IS a fault with the tablet and in which case you'd need to get a replacement. If it was me I'd probably roll back to the stock rom just to see.
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If it is what I thought it was, it won't make a difference which rom you use, and it's a normal feature of the tablet. You must live in a very quiet place to hear it all the time or have very sensitive ears. If it's not that, then trying another rom as mentioned above may help you narrow down the list of causes. If it's annoying you too much then possibly it IS a fault with the tablet and in which case you'd need to get a replacement. If it was me I'd probably roll back to the stock rom just to see.
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After 20 years of listening to metal I highly doubt that my ears are that sensitive but you never know I might try the stock ROM as soon as it has been rooted but for now I don't think it's worth it. I was more worried about something inside the device being tortured
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Yes, I do. I use the PRIME! 1.4 ROM and the blades-clemsyn overclock kernel. It has been an issue since the 3.1 upgrade I think. Never had it stock though so I cannot comment on issues with the stock ROM, unfortunately.
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I hear the buzzing sound too and I am also unning Prime 1.4 ROM and Clemsyn-Blades KERNEL. I hear it on the Left side of the tablet and sounds like its coming from the speaker but more towards the screen edge. Never heard it on Stock though.
dja2k
I'll have to wait for another reboot to test this, but I hear what I call high pitched 'tweeting' from the speaker I just have to touch the volume up/down button on the tablet and it seems to instantly stop.
I'll test here in a bit. Using Primordial 3.1 and the OC Kernel at 1.4 right now.
Update: 'twas my imagination on the touching of the volume button. It squeals a bit thru all the ASCII art and status boot screens, but settles down when the lock screen appears. Not a nuisance, but audible.
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I updated the Clemsyn-Blades v6 KERNEL to v7ELITE and I don't hear the buzzing sound anymore. Maybe it was that version of the custom KERNEL. I will check it out, maybe it is just random.
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funnycreature said:
Yes, I do. I use the PRIME! 1.4 ROM and the blades-clemsyn overclock kernel. It has been an issue since the 3.1 upgrade I think. Never had it stock though so I cannot comment on issues with the stock ROM, unfortunately.
What makes this theory a bit wobbly is that the sound isn't always there. It seems to be application-specific. I would expect a backlight frequency (like a fluorescence bulb?) to be audible whenever the backlight is on and not during one application running but not the other.
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It's the custom kernel you're using, mine was doing the same thing with some weird high pictched sounds too. I reflashed the stock ASUS kernel and it hasent done it since. Just to make sure, I reflashed the custom kernel you're using and the speakers make the humming noise again.
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It's the custom kernel you're using, mine was doing the same thing with some weird high pictched sounds too. I reflashed the stock ASUS kernel and it hasent done it since. Just to make sure, I reflashed the custom kernel you're using and the speakers make the humming noise again.
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I haven't noticed the humming since v7 of Clemsyn/Blades' kernel. But the popping is as bad as ever. I wish there was a fix for that too!
funnycreature said:
First of all, I know that I have read about this problem in other threads but I cannot find it; I think it was associated with custom ROMs but I'm not entirely sure.
I have two problems with my sound right now:
popping
Every time the tables boots up the speakers pop. No a big deal and it might be just because they get activated and the current causes the pop. But every time a sound is made? That is annoying!
humming/screeching/buzzing
Now this is the scariest problem. The sound that comes from "within" the tablet, i.e. behind the screen and not the actual speakers. It does not always appear but seems to be linked to apps trying to use sound. It almost sounds like a hard drive spinning irregularly or a distant old dial-up modem (weird analogy, I know). I don't know what's causing it but in my opinion it's not a good sign.
Again, if anyone here remembers where it has been discussed already I will take the blow as long as I can find out if the problem(s) have been solved somewhere.
Thanks y'all!
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Sound like you got a Bee in there eathing rice crispies
I just got an iconia. I am about to root it. I just have one question. I know that sometimes when running a rom my old phone would lock up and I would have to pull out the battery. I know you can't do this when the iconia. So lets say the iconia freezes with a custom rom on it. How would I go about "pulling out the battery"(or similar)
I am also kinda of concerned about roms. How long lasting are they? Are the Devs here to stay like Cyan? Or should I just root and keep stock. Any help would be great! Thanks!
kylepotts said:
I just got an iconia. I am about to root it. I just have one question. I know that sometimes when running a rom my old phone would lock up and I would have to pull out the battery. I know you can't do this when the iconia. So lets say the iconia freezes with a custom rom on it. How would I go about "pulling out the battery"(or similar)
I am also kinda of concerned about roms. How long lasting are they? Are the Devs here to stay like Cyan? Or should I just root and keep stock. Any help would be great! Thanks!
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Best way to unfreeze it microwave on thaw setting!
Honestly, just hold down the power button for approx 10 seconds if you get a popsickle tab!
Alright. I was just making sure. I know on the phone it didn't always work, but maybe it different with a tablet.
May I ask what rom you are running?
kylepotts said:
Alright. I was just making sure. I know on the phone it didn't always work, but maybe it different with a tablet.
May I ask what rom you are running?
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It's in my signature. But I've run pretty much most of the custom roms found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1136
BTW there's ALSO a reset hole, just use a pencil/paper clip, that way even if holding the power button fails reset does not fail, it only makes a reboot, no info is lost so no worries but don't press it too long, may be like HTC will factory reset... no one has confirmed this or I just haven't read it here in XDA. Actually everyone acts like theres no reset hole, like it doesn't exist... some times I think its just my imagination :/ but there's a hole below USB and it says reset
Yes the reset hole exists; haven't tried it yet though.
I wouldn't worry too much about running other roms. It's pretty easy to flash, wipe, try..rinse and repeat. And you can always flash back to stock rom. After rooting, you could even try deleting some of the crapware included in the stock rom just to optimize it a bit.
I've run a ridiculous amount of roms on my EVO just to try and because I could when the stock one functioned just fine. And really isn't that why were all here, trying to get more than most out of a mass produced product.
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I just got an iconia. I am about to root it. I just have one question. I know that sometimes when running a rom my old phone would lock up and I would have to pull out the battery. I know you can't do this when the iconia. So lets say the iconia freezes with a custom rom on it. How would I go about "pulling out the battery"(or similar)
I am also kinda of concerned about roms. How long lasting are they? Are the Devs here to stay like Cyan? Or should I just root and keep stock. Any help would be great! Thanks!
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I've tried a few custom ROMs around here and I haven't managed to get a single one of them to crash or freeze. So I wouldn't worry 'bout that. But at the moment I'm back on stock ROM, I personally find it better than the custom ones.
Does anyone know the speed on it, since a lot of my high read apps have huge issues with my transformer. I wanted to also know if there was anyway to point or force them to run off my class 10 card I got in it.
Its not a hard drive, its NAND flash memory and it should be as quick or quicker than your SD card
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Its not a hard drive, its NAND flash memory and it should be as quick or quicker than your SD card
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Weird, for some reason my tablet seems to be getting slower and it's driving me nuts. Now I am not sure if it's the custom rom or not, maybe I should just say nuts to it and get rid of root and reload the stock rom.
Is there a way to test the read wright speed so I can double check?
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Weird, for some reason my tablet seems to be getting slower and it's driving me nuts. Now I am not sure if it's the custom rom or not, maybe I should just say nuts to it and get rid of root and reload the stock rom.
Is there a way to test the read wright speed so I can double check?
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Do you have a task killer running? If you do, then that's most likely the culprit.
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Do you have a task killer running? If you do, then that's most likely the culprit.
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Nope, the biggest issues are when just pictures or chandroid is running. They move fine but slow to a crippled crawl in a bit, as for a task killer I don't have any unless it comes stock off the custom rom.
Honestly it is annoying as hell when it gets to a craw and then force close over and over.
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Nope, the biggest issues are when just pictures or chandroid is running. They move fine but slow to a crippled crawl in a bit, as for a task killer I don't have any unless it comes stock off the custom rom.
Honestly it is annoying as hell when it gets to a craw and then force close over and over.
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Sounds like it's just a bad app?
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Sounds like it's just a bad app?
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No, they both work fine on my nook and my hd2 and my other tablet. It's just the newest one I got (ie the transformer) that I started to notice the issue. I worked with the dev from chandroid and we tried everything and he said as he looked over the crash report that there was nothing wrong with the app.
On the stock build of OS, he said it was an issue being caused by splashtop stuff. Is there anyway to rip every program out by the core needed to run and let me add them one at a time to test?
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No, they both work fine on my nook and my hd2 and my other tablet. It's just the newest one I got (ie the transformer) that I started to notice the issue. I worked with the dev from chandroid and we tried everything and he said as he looked over the crash report that there was nothing wrong with the app.
On the stock build of OS, he said it was an issue being caused by splashtop stuff. Is there anyway to rip every program out by the core needed to run and let me add them one at a time to test?
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If you're rooted, you should just be able to uninstall stuff with Titanium Backup.. but make sure you backup the app first.
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If you're rooted, you should just be able to uninstall stuff with Titanium Backup.. but make sure you backup the app first.
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Aye, I got root. I was hoping to find out if there was a rom that was just barebones. So more or less do a full backup and then pull them all out and test it one at a time? I can just do a backup in clockwork mod.
I am just reaching a head with being annoying and asking for help.
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Aye, I got root. I was hoping to find out if there was a rom that was just barebones. So more or less do a full backup and then pull them all out and test it one at a time? I can just do a backup in clockwork mod.
I am just reaching a head with being annoying and asking for help.
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Yeah, I'm not aware of a super barebones rom. Full backup and uninstall one by one is what I would do.
hauj0bb said:
Yeah, I'm not aware of a super barebones rom. Full backup and uninstall one by one is what I would do.
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What is the best way to remove anything/everything? Cause if I got it backed up and if I blow the OS I can just do a recovery.
The easiest way would be to freeze the app with titanium backup, you could also just manually rename it or delete it.
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No, they both work fine on my nook and my hd2 and my other tablet. It's just the newest one I got (ie the transformer) that I started to notice the issue. I worked with the dev from chandroid and we tried everything and he said as he looked over the crash report that there was nothing wrong with the app.
On the stock build of OS, he said it was an issue being caused by splashtop stuff. Is there anyway to rip every program out by the core needed to run and let me add them one at a time to test?
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Is the nook running honeycomb?
ryan stewart said:
Is the nook running honeycomb?
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I believe so.
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I believe so.
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Should be obvious. Does it look and act identical to the transformer?
Once thing I have found is that apps can run well on older versions of android but have issues with honeycomb. Like cut the rope, it crashes and is slower to load on the tablet but blazes on my evo. Asked the dev and he said its not yet developed for honeycomb.
My TFs internal memory is plenty fast.
Just root it without someones Rom. Stock would be your goal to see if a Rom affects it.
Watchdog from the market would help. It would show you what apps are running and how much they are using the Cpu
When I use Dolphin HD or Pad I can see when it's hanging up...not loading the page then..it dies lol freaking apps.
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Should be obvious. Does it look and act identical to the transformer?
Once thing I have found is that apps can run well on older versions of android but have issues with honeycomb. Like cut the rope, it crashes and is slower to load on the tablet but blazes on my evo. Asked the dev and he said its not yet developed for honeycomb.
My TFs internal memory is plenty fast.
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It wasn't obvious cause I wasn't at home. Yes it is running 3.0 it's a stable honeycomb build but I never use the nook much if at all.
DilloDroid said:
Just root it without someones Rom. Stock would be your goal to see if a Rom affects it.
Watchdog from the market would help. It would show you what apps are running and how much they are using the Cpu
When I use Dolphin HD or Pad I can see when it's hanging up...not loading the page then..it dies lol freaking apps.
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I will try that, honestly I just want a way to see what's going on with it. I am not sure if it's using all the memory or what with all the images it loads. Since my problems always come from mass images loading.
Possibly just eating up your RAM then - the SSD shouldn't be (that) active if it's image loading and not saving.
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Possibly just eating up your RAM then - the SSD shouldn't be (that) active if it's image loading and not saving.
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Well like with just pictures, it's a big display of thumbnails for viewing your images. I know it can cashe the data to make it faster but that just seems to make it slower, as for chandroid the longer I use it the slower it gets. So maybe it's not purging old data?
Nexus 7 32GB is my first android device. Before I bought it, most people were saying that android is finally smooth, project butter and so on. But that's not the case here. I'm on 4.2.2 stock, have currents sync disabled, my storage is only half full, and my Nexus is starting to get on my nerves.
- screen rotation takes exactly 4 seconds, no exception.
- apps sometimes freeze, forcing me to force close them or even reboot occasionally.
- even some simple games, like Dragonvale, run like stop motion in certain segments.
- when I install ANY app, it seems that android service responsible to put icon on my home screen takes 100% CPU time for 10-15 seconds or so.
- when there are app updates, my nexus is unusable. Takes 10+ seconds for any action.
Say what you want about windows phone, but that thing flies. Am I maybe spoiled by it's buttery smoothness so android by comparison irritates me, or is there really something wrong with my Nexus? I already did hard reset once, early on. It did not help. Should I try again? If so, what backup solution is the easiest?
I know I might be asking a lot and that there are threads about this already, but info is scattered, and there are numerous contradicting opinions and advices. Basically I am just not sure if this is how it's supposed to be, or should I try something.
The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Terepin said:
The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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How do I detect a rouge app? Task manager? Can you recommend one?
It was slow to start with. Disabling currents sync did not help. And I did do reset in the first few days. Did not help.
Now, it's just even more slower. Perhaps by as much as 50% in some actions, if I can put a number on a subjective impression.
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Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?
d.a.v.o.r said:
Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?
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Well if you want better performance... ROMs and kernels are the things to mess with.
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You should probably flash a ROM/kernel for best performance. But if you still don't want to mess with ROMs, reflash the stock rom and reroot it. That's what helped me.
I've had some issues with my phone lagging during/after app update, and i've only recently nailed down the culprit. Turns out it was the Root Uninstaller app that was making backups of older versions of the apps during the update, it ceased after i turned off the option in it's settings (or just uninstall). My guesstimate would be that you have some app that is doing just that. Because my own n7 doesn't noticeably lag even if i try to update many (as much as 10) apps at the same, which usually kills my single-core SGSL into a reboot shortly after trying this.
I think 4.2 is just buggy. It flies for me sometimes and on some devices, and sometimes it crawls horribly. Maybe the next android version will fix this, maybe not
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This helped me a little (If you don't use Currents then this could help)
1. Go to Settings > Apps > All (swipe right 2 times) > Currents
2. Click "Force Stop"
3. Click "Disable"
It should be now fixed for some of it. Like the earlier posts suggest, maybe reflashing stock ROM or installing a kernel (once you're comfortable) will help for sure.
It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.
AW: [Q] Is Nexus 7 supposed to be this way? (laggy)
If you're having a lot of apps installed you can get ram problems. Some apps are running in the background even if they don't need to. If you wanna know which apps those are simply go to apps and swipe to the second panel. There you can see which asps are running in the background .You should delete them. If you don't want to do that simply download the app Greenify
(You should have more than 200mb free)
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Entropy generator, I just use pimp my ROM, even on stock rooted.
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I'm on paranoid 2.54 which is 4.1 and it feels faster than cm10.1 I miss 4.2.2 fonts but I'll see If I get it.
BR.
d.a.v.o.r said:
It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.
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Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.
Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.
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RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
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Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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It honestly shouldn't lag like that. Even bone stock.
One thing you can do right away is go into developer settings (click 7 times on Build Number in About Tablet to enable) and change all animation settings to.5 or to none.
DL Root Checker, or just try to use any root app to see if you actually do have root. Even with the wonderful toolkits (which will also save your bacon if you get into a bootloop) getting root to stick can be tricky...you may have to run it a couple of times.
But the best results will come if you flash a custom rom and kernel. if you like a tweaked stock experience, try CleanRom Inheritance. It uses the Aroma installer, so it's very easy and customizable. It can be found under Android Development.
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RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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You can use titanium backup. It there others like carbon. But titanium has been around the longest and it's my preferred way. Requires root, and it should warn you at start up if you aren't rooted correctly.
I would do as others suggested and just restore basic apps after factory reboot and re root. Then slowly restore others to see if you notice other problems along the way.
Also, if you didn't know. You can install kernels without wiping tablet and changing the whole Rom. I would definitely try that eventually too.
One more thing to note. Don't judge android on chrome (not that you mentioned it, but I know a lot of newbies have). It's one of the slowest browsers. It has tons of great features which I love, but do slow compared to most others. I wish I wasn't so addicted to its syncing.
Thanks to everyone on advices.
1) root checker says I do not have proper root. Now that I think about it, I did update my Nexus 7 from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2. I guess that also removed root.
2) I will reset. I don't really have any messages or photos or app data that is not already in the cloud that I need to backup.
3) I'll try to gradually install everything app by app to see if it's a rouge app.
4) I'll than revive this thread with my results. Though I doubt I'll get to doing all that in the next few days.
Again, thanks everyone!
As the title states. Nexus 4 random power offs. Has anyone seen anything like this?
Here is the background info:
My parents have Nexus 4 phones as do I. All of our phones were ordered at the same time about 2 months or so ago when they became available again. All phones are the 16GB version. All phones bone stock with just OTA updates, not unlocked or rooted other than how they are shipped. All using T-Mobile prepaid plans.
My phone and my father's seem fine. My mom's however seems to shutdown on its own. It is random. Initially I thought that it may be an issue where she isn't used to a smart phone and isn't charging it enough. It happens though at times while it is connected to the charger. It also has happened while carrying it off the charger.
One odd thing is that when they got the phone they brought them to my house and dropped them off to have me set them up. One had the plastic screen protector with the printing on it from the factory the other didn't. I don't know which is which though now. It is a 50/50 shot if this is the one.
I have been around android since the G1 days and run the same phone. I can't think of a setting on the phone that would power it down at a certain time or period of time. She really doesn't have much for apps and is a very light user.
Not sure what to try but I was thinking about doing a wipe of the phone to see if it helps.
Anyone else have any ideas? If the wipe doesn't help the only other thing I can think of is that there is a physical issue with the phone.
I haven't seen this on my phone but there was a period of time where HD Widgets on my N7 would cause a reboot. That was fixed with an app update. This isn't a case where the device reboots. It is a complete shutdown which I find odd. So I have seen an app cause issues kind of like this. For the most part the apps that she has on her phone, I also have on mine. Well I have way more but there really isn't anything on her phone that I am not also running.
I should add that she has the phone in a TPU case. As we all do. My case design is a little different than theirs but they have cutouts for the buttons. So it isn't a case where the case is pressing on the power button. That could be an issue with my case as it covers the power button but I haven't had that issue.
Thanks
Sounds like it might be a defective battery...
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Sounds like it might be a defective battery...
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That is what I am kind of thinking. Either the battery or the smart battery chips. I think I will try a wipe first but like I said but it is odd.
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One odd thing is that when they got the phone they brought them to my house and dropped them off to have me set them up. One had the plastic screen protector with the printing on it from the factory the other didn't. I don't know which is which though now. It is a 50/50 shot if this is the one.
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That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.
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That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.
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I don't want to root and have my mom run a modified ROM. They live about a half hour from me so I haven't tried a wipe of the phone yet and because of the distance I don't want to deal with the issues that sometimes come up when you go with modified ROMs when I am not there. She is a very basic user and this is the first smartphone for my father and mother. Keep in mind they are in their early 70s and not really that strong on the tech side of things. I have to get some time to run over there and take a look at it. Maybe later next week.
I was just wondering if anyone else has had this issue. I think if a wipe doesn't help I will talk to Google. A search really didn't show much other than some people that were seeing a random reboot issue. I have seen apps doing that.
I have been through their warranty replacement process and it is a bit of a PITA. I am on my 3rd Nexus 7 due to hardware issues with the first 2. My N4 and my fathers have been rock solid.
While I have run custom ROMs in the past, I usually run stock until I find a need that requires me to root. Eventually I will probably root and go with a custom ROM on my N4 but
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She is a very basic user and this is the first smartphone for my father and mother. Keep in mind they are in their early 70s and not really that strong on the tech side of things.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm giving my parents my old LG P990 phone and I just put an AOKP rom on it. I also installed Nova Launcher for them and configured it so there's just one texting app and one calling app the one and only one homescreen. No dock either, just in case they click something by accident or get lost in the app drawer
Since you have the same phone as your mom, a self-less workaround would just be to give her yours (pre-configured), and then you can fiddle around with the problematic one until you find a decent solution. :good:
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That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm giving my parents my old LG P990 phone and I just put an AOKP rom on it. I also installed Nova Launcher for them and configured it so there's just one texting app and one calling app the one and only one homescreen. No dock either, just in case they click something by accident or get lost in the app drawer
Since you have the same phone as your mom, a self-less workaround would just be to give her yours (pre-configured), and then you can fiddle around with the problematic one until you find a decent solution. :good:
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Hmm. That is a good idea. The PITA part would be to get everything loaded from my phone to hers. I really wish I could run Titanium backup without root as it would make it super easy to move the apps over. Though I don't have that much loaded on my phone. Things that are a pain to set up have configuration export methods like Tasker. It would rule out the end user being the source of the issue. I don't think that is it though. If we swap and it goes away, then I can consider the wipe as the solution. If the problem moves to me then it is a physical issue and call Google. If the problem persists with her, I load all her apps on the phone I carry as well to see if I start to have the issue or it becomes a training issue. The thing I like about this the most is that it is a clear process to rule out several things. I can go over there and sit with the phone but if it doesn't power off when I am there I don't gain much other than spending some time with my parents.
I don't think this is an issue but I did have to provide my IMEI# when doing the activations. In the past though on T-Mobile I have handed phones down to others and all we did was a SIM swap. I would imagine that is the case here.
Oh and one thing I did leave out. They were using their old cell phone chargers on the N4 phones. I told them to swap chargers and use the ones that came with the phone. The old ones may not put out enough power and the phone could in theory run down to the point where it shuts off and slowly charge from that point and I don't think it would turn back on. Keep in mind a retired user who just had a knee replacement so she is at home more often than not.
Did you find out the cause? I have the same issue happened twice today
The random shut off either charging or not happens to me but as mentioned before in a related thread, a lot of the times it also happens on Wi-Fi, and having WiFi optimization on.. purple were turning that off and some fixed the issues. This is my second nexus 4, so I right id give it a try and not use wifi and hasn't happen since I received mines on the 4th of may
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The random shut off either charging or not happens to me but as mentioned before in a related thread, a lot of the times it also happens on Wi-Fi, and having WiFi optimization on.. purple were turning that off and some fixed the issues. This is my second nexus 4, so I right id give it a try and not use wifi and hasn't happen since I received mines on the 4th of may
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So you're saying it's a software issue?
Looks like it.. Turning off optimization or not even using WiFi at all worked..
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