Does anyone know the speed on it, since a lot of my high read apps have huge issues with my transformer. I wanted to also know if there was anyway to point or force them to run off my class 10 card I got in it.
Its not a hard drive, its NAND flash memory and it should be as quick or quicker than your SD card
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Its not a hard drive, its NAND flash memory and it should be as quick or quicker than your SD card
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Weird, for some reason my tablet seems to be getting slower and it's driving me nuts. Now I am not sure if it's the custom rom or not, maybe I should just say nuts to it and get rid of root and reload the stock rom.
Is there a way to test the read wright speed so I can double check?
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Weird, for some reason my tablet seems to be getting slower and it's driving me nuts. Now I am not sure if it's the custom rom or not, maybe I should just say nuts to it and get rid of root and reload the stock rom.
Is there a way to test the read wright speed so I can double check?
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Do you have a task killer running? If you do, then that's most likely the culprit.
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Do you have a task killer running? If you do, then that's most likely the culprit.
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Nope, the biggest issues are when just pictures or chandroid is running. They move fine but slow to a crippled crawl in a bit, as for a task killer I don't have any unless it comes stock off the custom rom.
Honestly it is annoying as hell when it gets to a craw and then force close over and over.
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Nope, the biggest issues are when just pictures or chandroid is running. They move fine but slow to a crippled crawl in a bit, as for a task killer I don't have any unless it comes stock off the custom rom.
Honestly it is annoying as hell when it gets to a craw and then force close over and over.
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Sounds like it's just a bad app?
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Sounds like it's just a bad app?
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No, they both work fine on my nook and my hd2 and my other tablet. It's just the newest one I got (ie the transformer) that I started to notice the issue. I worked with the dev from chandroid and we tried everything and he said as he looked over the crash report that there was nothing wrong with the app.
On the stock build of OS, he said it was an issue being caused by splashtop stuff. Is there anyway to rip every program out by the core needed to run and let me add them one at a time to test?
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No, they both work fine on my nook and my hd2 and my other tablet. It's just the newest one I got (ie the transformer) that I started to notice the issue. I worked with the dev from chandroid and we tried everything and he said as he looked over the crash report that there was nothing wrong with the app.
On the stock build of OS, he said it was an issue being caused by splashtop stuff. Is there anyway to rip every program out by the core needed to run and let me add them one at a time to test?
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If you're rooted, you should just be able to uninstall stuff with Titanium Backup.. but make sure you backup the app first.
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If you're rooted, you should just be able to uninstall stuff with Titanium Backup.. but make sure you backup the app first.
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Aye, I got root. I was hoping to find out if there was a rom that was just barebones. So more or less do a full backup and then pull them all out and test it one at a time? I can just do a backup in clockwork mod.
I am just reaching a head with being annoying and asking for help.
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Aye, I got root. I was hoping to find out if there was a rom that was just barebones. So more or less do a full backup and then pull them all out and test it one at a time? I can just do a backup in clockwork mod.
I am just reaching a head with being annoying and asking for help.
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Yeah, I'm not aware of a super barebones rom. Full backup and uninstall one by one is what I would do.
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Yeah, I'm not aware of a super barebones rom. Full backup and uninstall one by one is what I would do.
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What is the best way to remove anything/everything? Cause if I got it backed up and if I blow the OS I can just do a recovery.
The easiest way would be to freeze the app with titanium backup, you could also just manually rename it or delete it.
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No, they both work fine on my nook and my hd2 and my other tablet. It's just the newest one I got (ie the transformer) that I started to notice the issue. I worked with the dev from chandroid and we tried everything and he said as he looked over the crash report that there was nothing wrong with the app.
On the stock build of OS, he said it was an issue being caused by splashtop stuff. Is there anyway to rip every program out by the core needed to run and let me add them one at a time to test?
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Is the nook running honeycomb?
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Is the nook running honeycomb?
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I believe so.
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I believe so.
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Should be obvious. Does it look and act identical to the transformer?
Once thing I have found is that apps can run well on older versions of android but have issues with honeycomb. Like cut the rope, it crashes and is slower to load on the tablet but blazes on my evo. Asked the dev and he said its not yet developed for honeycomb.
My TFs internal memory is plenty fast.
Just root it without someones Rom. Stock would be your goal to see if a Rom affects it.
Watchdog from the market would help. It would show you what apps are running and how much they are using the Cpu
When I use Dolphin HD or Pad I can see when it's hanging up...not loading the page then..it dies lol freaking apps.
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Should be obvious. Does it look and act identical to the transformer?
Once thing I have found is that apps can run well on older versions of android but have issues with honeycomb. Like cut the rope, it crashes and is slower to load on the tablet but blazes on my evo. Asked the dev and he said its not yet developed for honeycomb.
My TFs internal memory is plenty fast.
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It wasn't obvious cause I wasn't at home. Yes it is running 3.0 it's a stable honeycomb build but I never use the nook much if at all.
DilloDroid said:
Just root it without someones Rom. Stock would be your goal to see if a Rom affects it.
Watchdog from the market would help. It would show you what apps are running and how much they are using the Cpu
When I use Dolphin HD or Pad I can see when it's hanging up...not loading the page then..it dies lol freaking apps.
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I will try that, honestly I just want a way to see what's going on with it. I am not sure if it's using all the memory or what with all the images it loads. Since my problems always come from mass images loading.
Possibly just eating up your RAM then - the SSD shouldn't be (that) active if it's image loading and not saving.
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Possibly just eating up your RAM then - the SSD shouldn't be (that) active if it's image loading and not saving.
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Well like with just pictures, it's a big display of thumbnails for viewing your images. I know it can cashe the data to make it faster but that just seems to make it slower, as for chandroid the longer I use it the slower it gets. So maybe it's not purging old data?
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I have been playing around with ATT Android phones over the last several months. I started with a Nexus One, nice phone very fast. Then purchased an Aria for the fun of it... again fast phone but too small. Lastly yesterday I picked up the Captivate, and with a 1ghz, the Aria seems faster than this phone. Seems to lag between screens and boot. Is it just me or anyone else see this? Is there a quick fix for this? Anyone?
Oh I hate touchwiz, worthless crap for a UI.....loaded ADW launcher instead
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It really is a software thing with Touchwiz. After I installed Launcher pro I never looked back and it has been a lot faster.
There may be a bunch of apps running slowing the phone down. I have Advanced task killer, and kill a bunch of app every once in a while when It starts feeling slow.
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It really is a software thing with Touchwiz. After I installed Launcher pro I never looked back and it has been a lot faster.
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Where did you find this Launcher pro, and how much faster is it than stock?
Check #17 out in this post. The Euro version owners have known about this for some time.
There are some fixes - but, most likely not until we can get some custom ROMS.
Launcher Pro helps a lot, just search the app market for it.
Ive been doing side by side comparisons of my N1 running CM6 and the Captivate all day. The Captivate is faster 95% of the time. Both running ADW launcher.
You can load ADW or LauncherPro from the Market. When you set as default home, you will not be able to use "Touchwiz" widgets.......
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Where did you find this Launcher pro, and how much faster is it than stock?
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A crapload faster. After installing it, the device is like lightning , haven't had any pauses. Just search the market. Think it is a beta.
Yes to all new samsung galaxy S owners get rid of the ****ty touchwiz launcher it sucks and its laggy as hell, get launcher pro instead.
whats the best widget pack to replace the touchwiz ones
is there a way to port sense widgets? (push from a htc/pull to captivate or something)
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whats the best widget pack to replace the touchwiz ones
is there a way to port sense widgets? (push from a htc/pull to captivate or something)
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eventually. Widget packs.. hmm you should just try out new stuff, explore and what not
Also, new news so to speak - LauncherPro will be coming out with a lot of integrated widgets that are similar to the SenseUI widgets.
Koxx - here on xda has made some really great widgets. I think I have purchased them all. MoonSpoon (used to be a very active themer and now is a lurker due to being busy elsewhere) made themes for all of Koxx's widgets.
If I just want to go back to the default Android drawer can I install the Launcher.apk from a Cyanogen 5.8 rom?
Even with Launcher Pro there seems to be some lagging issues. On the Vibrant thread, the a subject on Fixing Stalling/Lagging. On the vibrant it seems you can partition your SD card and have the files run off of it. They said that it runs faster on the sd card then the built in memory card. I trying to do this procedure but kind of stuck. I can't seem to get the phone in download mode. Still searching around if i can find out i let you guys know. Meantime check out the thread and if you find out or know how post it up on the Captivate side. Not much instructions on "HOW TO MOD CAPTIVATE" in our thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
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Even with Launcher Pro there seems to be some lagging issues. On the Vibrant thread, the a subject on Fixing Stalling/Lagging. On the vibrant it seems you can partition your SD card and have the files run off of it. They said that it runs faster on the sd card then the built in memory card. I trying to do this procedure but kind of stuck. I can't seem to get the phone in download mode. Still searching around if i can find out i let you guys know. Meantime check out the thread and if you find out or know how post it up on the Captivate side. Not much instructions on "HOW TO MOD CAPTIVATE" in our thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
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Arguably, I don't see why this wouldn't work on the Captivate. Granted, I'm not going to be the one to try it right now, but it really should work just like that. Anyone feeling ballsy enough to give it a try?
I trying to get it done. but i am just not sure how it's done. trying to follow procedure but can't get pass step one. LOL
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Arguably, I don't see why this wouldn't work on the Captivate. Granted, I'm not going to be the one to try it right now, but it really should work just like that. Anyone feeling ballsy enough to give it a try?
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I did it. It works great.
No more stalling at the moment, and my Quadrant score went up 100 points as well.
But be sure to follow the steps, and make sure you have enough room in data/data, and keep in mind that you can still fill data/data up with app installation. Google Earth is particularly bad about eating space here.
And keep in mind that the Galaxy S people that did this find that eventually it starts to stall again, so this is a band-aid.
When I get home tonight, I'll try the better, more effective SD card method, don't have an easy way to make an /ext3 partition on an SD card at the moment.
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I trying to get it done. but i am just not sure how it's done. trying to follow procedure but can't get pass step one. LOL
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You need an external SD card, a program that will let you partition the ext3 format, and then you just need to follow their commands. Where are you getting stuck, maybe I can help guide you.
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I did it. It works great.
No more stalling at the moment, and my Quadrant score went up 100 points as well.
But be sure to follow the steps, and make sure you have enough room in data/data, and keep in mind that you can still fill data/data up with app installation. Google Earth is particularly bad about eating space here.
And keep in mind that the Galaxy S people that did this find that eventually it starts to stall again, so this is a band-aid.
When I get home tonight, I'll try the better, more effective SD card method, don't have an easy way to make an /ext3 partition on an SD card at the moment.
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There's a few tools, but most will require a live CD to utilize.
Check my Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds9eccI9OA
I did a FR before flashing with Kies, and after flashing. Also did a clean install of all apps and settings and a cache wipe.
maybe 50 pics, 50 mp3s and 100 apps and 4 widgets running.
This video was taken just 15 minutes after a reboot.
Do people consider this whining?
EDIT: Spend 6 minutes looking through the video. The lags gets worse and worse.
That is the worst lag I have ever seen, I understand if you are upset, for me the lag is 1-2 second pauses now and then.
Was it as bad on 2.1?
Looks bad. Anyways try getting rid of the batt app that lets you know of the batt percentage on the notifications tray. I got rid of mine and the phone is much quicker.
Good luck i feel for you buddy.
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Something is hogging the cpu.. Or a process is creating a problem. What happens after you clean the memory in the taskmanager? This isn't normal.
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Whats the icon in the top right hand corner? And this SHOULD have been posted to the other lag threads.
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Whats the icon in the top right hand corner? And this SHOULD have been posted to the other lag threads.
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The icon is just the alarm clock.
Ending all apps does not solve much. The lag returns almost immediately.
Was this lag meant to be so, i mean is it intended to blame the phone? I'm sure this is not normal, and have never seen lag like this. Mostly its 1sec (i know many complain about this) but blink twice and it will load
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The icon is just the alarm clock.
Ending all apps does not solve much. The lag returns almost immediately.
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What apps do you have installed?
And yes, creating your own thread is whining.. This thread should be marked as a duplicate..
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What apps do you have installed?
And yes, creating your own thread is whining.. This thread should be marked as a duplicate..
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Sorry, but I have to disagree. I think this is relevant enough to put in a separate thread.
My apps: http://www.appbrain.com/user/borchgrevink/apps-on-the-phone (minus Angry birds)
The lag was almost like this also with jf3 and jm1.
Not many apps running simultaneously, so I don't see the problem...
Not to disparage what you're experiencing there mate but I flashed JP6 yesterday and I can honestly say so far it's been smooth sailing even without any lag-fixes, as opposed to when I was on 2.1 just prior and things were about the same as what you've got here. Did you do a TitaniumBackup restore or anything?
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Not to disparage what you're experiencing there mate but I flashed JP6 yesterday and I can honestly say so far it's been smooth sailing even without any lag-fixes, as opposed to when I was on 2.1 just prior and things were about the same as what you've got here. Did you do a TitaniumBackup restore or anything?
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Clean install of everything.
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Looks bad. Anyways try getting rid of the batt app that lets you know of the batt percentage on the notifications tray. I got rid of mine and the phone is much quicker.
Good luck i feel for you buddy.
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Did that and no difference...
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Clean install of everything.
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Hmmmm, the only thing I can think of (and this'll probably sound silly) but you might want to try without a SIM in it. I remember people with Milestones having damaged/faulty SIMs which would cause their phones to slow right down.
Also, sorry but I have to admit I got a good giggle from the fingers tapping at ~4:30 :3
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Sorry, but I have to disagree. I think this is relevant enough to put in a separate thread.
My apps: http://www.appbrain.com/user/borchgrevink/apps-on-the-phone (minus Angry birds)
The lag was almost like this also with jf3 and jm1.
Not many apps running simultaneously, so I don't see the problem...
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It depends WHAT you are running. In your movie you say stuff like "wow, 5 apps running", but widgetlocker for instance I know slows the phone down a bit.
The number of apps means very little (I can make a computer lag by encoding a video and messing around in photoshop too). It's what you are running that matters. Maybe you should try to work out which applications are causing issues (there is a good reason why I got rid of widgetlocker though).
Anyway, this thread should be closed as a dupe. It doesn't warrant it's own thread, as you aren't a celebrity, and other people have already posted video's onto the existing threads.Your case is no more important than the others.
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That's part of the problem, it probably depends on what you are running, so whatever was slowing down your phone significantly before, has probably been reinstalled..
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That's part of the problem, it probably depends on what you are running, so whatever was slowing down your phone significantly before, has probably been reinstalled..
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Wasn't running anything after fresh boot. The video is from first screen taps on this freshly booted phone.
EDIT: Removing Widget Locker does not help... Tried that.
here it's unbelievable stable(jpk+oclf+4wks+120apps), guess it was a wise choice not going jp6/m.
But why are there 5 apps active? I have several active widgets but they don't show up as a regular process(es) here.. I'm sure that my phone would lagg too while running 2 games, 2 web browsers and navigational software on the background. =/
I doubt it was acting like this from flash off right?
Do you consider that the hardware may have been damaged!? You have your warranty, get another one .
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Wasn't running anything after fresh boot. The video is from first screen taps on this freshly booted phone.
EDIT: Removing Widget Locker does not help... Tried that.
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Well.. That's my point.. Your apps must be doing something that is sucking up your CPU... because I'm running Messaging, Launcherpro, Jabberoid (not listed in active apps), sipdroid (not listed in active apps), and a live wallpaper. I suspect that your apps are possibly running a few things not listed in task manager.. Also, are you running custom widgets (I'm not using any, which might be adding to the jumpiness). I also only have 50 apps.
I have noticed your app list contains MANY custom widgets..
So, I suggest working out what specifically is causing your issues. But I can honestly say I don't get lag like that on my phone..
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Well.. That's my point.. Your apps must be doing something that is sucking up your CPU... because I'm running Messaging, Launcherpro, Jabberoid (not listed in active apps), sipdroid (not listed in active apps), and a live wallpaper. I suspect that your apps are possibly running a few things not listed in task manager.. Also, are you running custom widgets (I'm not using any, which might be adding to the jumpiness). I also only have 50 apps.
I have noticed your app list contains MANY custom widgets..
So, I suggest working out what specifically is causing your issues. But I can honestly say I don't get lag like that on my phone..
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Well, the apps "running" in task manager are only the six most recent apps. I am only using 4-5 widgets on this video. I have also tried without any widgets. Same problem.
Will get a new replacement phone (have made a deal with Samsung, just waiting for a new one).
I have not heard too much about this, but the available RAM on my Atrix is around ~155-160MB which seems really low considering nothing but syncing services are running.
How is your phone keeping up?
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I have not heard too much about this, but the available RAM on my Atrix is around ~155-160MB which seems really low considering nothing but syncing services are running.
How is your phone keeping up?
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That is normal. Everyone needs to read up on how RAM works on an Android phone. Especially Android 2.2+
http://android.nextapp.com/site/systempanel/doc/taskmanagement
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That is normal. Everyone needs to read up on how RAM works on an Android phone. Especially Android 2.2+
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That's a relief. I haven't had any issues in speed with the phone. I'm just getting apprehensive because there is so much negativity in these forums about the phone. :/
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That's a relief. I haven't had any issues in speed with the phone. I'm just getting apprehensive because there is so much negativity in these forums about the phone. :/
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Yeah, I hear ya. I forget sometimes that a task killer used to be essential on older versions like 1.5/1.6
I usually have between 250-400 free, but I turn my phone off and on once or twice a day to keep it running fresh. I never see available ram that low.
im usually at around 400-450 when i keep it normal....try to clean up the crap out some bloated scripts on webtop, that'll free up some space, and also delete the bloatware from the apps...if you do that and don't run a secondary launcher, you should be fine...im just running motoblur adeo modded which keeps it lean.
I am running launcher pro. I'll try running Blur. How do I remove the bloatware?
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I am running launcher pro. I'll try running Blur. How do I remove the bloatware?
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well delete LP (it runs about 50mb when fully initialized), delete all the stock apps that you really don't need, also install adeo rom which will deox your apps so it wont run at boot, you can also install atk (it wont read the ram accurately since it has conflicts with the dual core for some reason) but it does work. it should then be at around 400+ on ram available.
You can add things to the auto close list in the built in task manager. Those apps will close out when the screen goes into standby. Lots of things stay running and sucking up ram without doing that.
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http://android.nextapp.com/site/systempanel/doc/taskmanagement
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That is an interesting bit of information. I never realized any of that. I always look at the little memroy stat on my sense clock widget and hate when my memory gets low. I am always closing apps to bring up free ram.
This was one of the reasons I reverted from the adeo rom. Always had less than 200mb free and could barely get it higher. Without adeo I can keep it closer to 300mb.
It always seems that my phone runs fine no matter what the available ram states so it makes sense to me that it doesn't matter. Perhaps now I won't concern myself with it as much and maybe even give launcher pro another go.
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well delete LP (it runs about 50mb when fully initialized), delete all the stock apps that you really don't need, also install adeo rom which will deox your apps so it wont run at boot, you can also install atk (it wont read the ram accurately since it has conflicts with the dual core for some reason) but it does work. it should then be at around 400+ on ram available.
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You can add things to the auto close list in the built in task manager. Those apps will close out when the screen goes into standby. Lots of things stay running and sucking up ram without doing that.
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I hate to say it but you guys have no idea what you're talking about. Just read the link I posted earlier and do some research on your own about the matter. All you're doing is putting stress on the system and killing your battery.
I have a ton of stuff on my phone and it usually doesn't go lower than 300mb free. Usually more around 400-450.
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I hate to say it but you guys have no idea what you're talking about. Just read the link I posted earlier and do some research on your own about the matter. All you're doing is putting stress on the system and killing your battery.
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this man speaks the truth.
I'm running launcher pro, blur stuff frozen, always have more than 300mb free. want to know the best way to clean up the RAM? go delete all the excess apps you don't actually need or use. I'm willing to bet there are a good number that you haven't used since first downloading thinking they'd be cool.
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Yea, verily. This is why I'm not especially worried about the Bionic's or the G2X's smaller RAM capacities. I have killed a lot of bloatware and typically have more than half my Atrix's memory available. Since "available" basically equals "wasted", I'm not going to have any problem returning the phone to hold out for the G2X.
(I would probably feel differently if I could see myself getting much use out of the Atrix's webtop OS.)
Can anyone confirm if Adeo works on the Bell version? Thanks.
Also, do I use Titanium Backup to backup all the stock apps incase I decide to return?
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Can anyone confirm if Adeo works on the Bell version? Thanks.
Also, do I use Titanium Backup to backup all the stock apps incase I decide to return?
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Not sure if it's working for the Bell version.
The Adeo install script creates a backup file of your system files. Titanium will only backup the apk files, not the odex files. So if you wanted to return it you would have to take the created backup file, extract the required folders, then repackage and rename them to work with the adeounistall script. Be sure to replace the folder that is already in there.
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Not sure if it's working for the Bell version.
The Adeo install script creates a backup file of your system files. Titanium will only backup the apk files, not the odex files. So if you wanted to return it you would have to take the created backup file, extract the required folders, then repackage and rename them to work with the adeounistall script. Be sure to replace the folder that is already in there.
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Wow! And I suppose there is a tutorial for this. I have used a lot of abd with my Nexus but I always had a tutorial to refer to.
Why do you need more than 200mb of RAM available? I use a Milestone 1 and I get 30 to 50MB available and it works like a charm. Memory management in Android is automatic, way different from a desktop OS. It frees up memory as soon as you need it.
I run Memory Booster which has task killer and quick boost. When I run it after start up, I hit around low 600 mb free. When I run it when the phone dips to the 300 mb range, it normally frees up 150 to 200 mb.
Hey all:
I have been traveling on business all week, and was just wondering if there was new news about GB being in the playbook this week? I have a feeling if it were, it would be top of the forum, but just in case it is in a "unobvious" thread, I thought I would ask.
Here is my next question. My Samsung Epic is completely stock, except for being rooted. I have noticed it is really slow when switching to the home screen, and switching to and from apps. It is ESPECIALLY slow when bringing up the TwLauncher sometimes. I have tried clearing data on the TwLauncher to see if there was corruption, but same thing. I have about 110 apps installed on my phone, and all of the apps that can be moved to the SD card are already there.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Hey all:
I have been traveling on business all week, and was just wondering if there was new news about GB being in the playbook this week? I have a feeling if it were, it would be top of the forum, but just in case it is in a "unobvious" thread, I thought I would ask.
Here is my next question. My Samsung Epic is completely stock, except for being rooted. I have noticed it is really slow when switching to the home screen, and switching to and from apps. It is ESPECIALLY slow when bringing up the TwLauncher sometimes. I have tried clearing data on the TwLauncher to see if there was corruption, but same thing. I have about 110 apps installed on my phone, and all of the apps that can be moved to the SD card are already there.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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No, and what is the question on the second one?
No news on GB.
Other question....your homescreens are taking longer because it takes longer to access and find all the apps on your sd card. SD card access is slower so the more apps on it the more it will slow down. Clean some apps off your homescreen that are on the sd card that you don't use and see if that speeds it up a little.
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ouch. I had a feeling this was the case. Let me ask this.
I have the stock SD card in my phone (class 4 I think). If I bought a class 10, is the phone capable of utilizing those faster speeds, and would I notice the difference?
Milkman00 said:
Hey all:
I have been traveling on business all week, and was just wondering if there was new news about GB being in the playbook this week? I have a feeling if it were, it would be top of the forum, but just in case it is in a "unobvious" thread, I thought I would ask.
Here is my next question. My Samsung Epic is completely stock, except for being rooted. I have noticed it is really slow when switching to the home screen, and switching to and from apps. It is ESPECIALLY slow when bringing up the TwLauncher sometimes. I have tried clearing data on the TwLauncher to see if there was corruption, but same thing. I have about 110 apps installed on my phone, and all of the apps that can be moved to the SD card are already there.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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1. No news
2. You are running out of memory.
No, I had a class 10 card (recently got corrupted and I changed back to the included Samsung sd card) and I still had this issue.
I've heard that the biggest reason we see this issue with the home screen is because the Epic uses the RTS (murderous) file system. As you are rooted, I believe you can search for the solution someone had that puts a 1GB swap space on the SD card that uses EXT4.
This is interesting.
I wonder if a Class 10 card would help if the swap file is on the SD. I almost wish I would have installed the stock ROM without the bloatware, as I think that would also help my situation, since my internal memory is down to around 60 megs...
hmmmmm.
Milkman00 said:
Hey all:
I have been traveling ......... ask.
Here is my next question. My Samsung Epic is completely stock, except for being rooted. I have noticed it is really slow when switching to the home screen, and switching to and from apps. It is ESPECIALLY slow when bringing up the TwLauncher sometimes. I have tried clearing data on the TwLauncher to see if there was corruption, but same thing. I have about 110 apps installed on my phone, and all of the apps that can be moved to the SD card are already there.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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I have 140 apps and 98% of those are on my SD card - the other 2% that "can" go on the SD card, I don't move because those apps are in folders on my home screens and if moved to the SD card, on next boot the icons change to a default Android icon instead of the normal app icon.
With that being said, I am stock and rooted like you except that I have a kernel so I can overclock my cpu. My phone is fast and stable in every way and so is my wife's epic which I have set up almost the same way - I have no problems with speed in switching or opening apps.
I would try overclocking but stay stock IMHO.
mouseglider said:
I have 140 apps and 98% of those are on my SD card - the other 2% that "can" go on the SD card, I don't move because those apps are in folders on my home screens and if moved to the SD card, on next boot the icons change to a default Android icon instead of the normal app icon.
With that being said, I am stock and rooted like you except that I have a kernel so I can overclock my cpu. My phone is fast and stable in every way and so is my wife's epic which I have set up almost the same way - I have no problems with speed in switching or opening apps.
I would try overclocking but stay stock IMHO.
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Can you point me to a good way to do this? Do you find that OC affects your battery life??? Mine is terrible.
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No, I had a class 10 card (recently got corrupted and I changed back to the included Samsung sd card) and I still had this issue.
I've heard that the biggest reason we see this issue with the home screen is because the Epic uses the RTS (murderous) file system. As you are rooted, I believe you can search for the solution someone had that puts a 1GB swap space on the SD card that uses EXT4.
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I think you mean RFS. And yes, some people worship ext4.
But really op? 110 apps?! I have 25...
Wipe data and flash SRF
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marcusant said:
Wipe data and flash SRF
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I dread doing this. I use two paid backup programs (Titanium and MyBackup).
Neither of them seem to backup the actual data that the applications use. What do I mean by that? I am talking about the saved login information for an app, as well as preferences, etc. It is never as easy as it should be.
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Can you point me to a good way to do this? Do you find that OC affects your battery life??? Mine is terrible.
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I would only do the kernel and not a rom yet, baby steps! Read the OP at least 3 times so you can understand.
Make sure you make a nandroid before you try this, just in case somethings goes wrong. When overclocking, don't mess with undervolting until everything is stable, then baby steps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961614
I run exactly whats in my signature. I have duplicated the same setup on my wife's phone with the exception that I keep hers clocked no higher than 1.3ghz. Where I float back and forth between 1.3ghz and 1.4ghz, because I am testing battery life. I get as good or better on battery life and a snappier phone on 1.3ghz and a little less battery at 1.4ghz, but that is only when I play a game at 1.4ghz. Under normal daily usage, I would still have to give the edge in battery life to 1.3ghz, but 1.4ghz sure is fast!
I have the free version of Titanium Backup and my App Data restores perfectly.
I'm thinking same as one of the other posters, more than one instance of your apps are killing your ram, what I do is chop down on apps, and look at what apps are running under processes. Remember that out of those 110 apps you have installed, not every single one has optimized programming code, so in theory, half of those are making new bugs that your phone has to bitterly endure. For titanium backup I do batch restore apps+data. Maybe you're just not restoring right. There's so many options that I find it possible. Imo opinion, I don't reccommend OC if you want battery life and for your epic's overall life to end sooner. As for gingerbread news nothing new yet, but it'll come out when we least expect it, I'm sure.
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I dread doing this. I use two paid backup programs (Titanium and MyBackup).
Neither of them seem to backup the actual data that the applications use. What do I mean by that? I am talking about the saved login information for an app, as well as preferences, etc. It is never as easy as it should be.
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I have MyBackup Pro and I don't even use that anymore, as I nandroid every 3 to 5 days or when I am going to do something drastic that could cause problems from the unknown. As an example my last unknown that was kind of glitchy was when I upgraded to Superuser went to 3.0
If you are rooted, just do a nandroid, if you have a crash, it will bring everything back just like it was when you made the nandroid.
Flash clean kernel for EC05
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Wipe data and flash SRF
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Lol that would probably give him other problems.
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Lol that would probably give him other problems.
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And "that" is why I said to just flash a kernel first. I am almost sure he would go nuts, because he has to flash SRF 1.1 first then SFR 1.2, then a kernel and make sure he has been converted to ext4 from rfs, than probably have journaling on, and the list goes on.
Go kernel first! And if that works and is stable and your phone works perfect after a week of use, then you can go on to the next step!
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And "that" is why I said to just flash a kernel first. I am almost sure he would go nuts, because he has to flash SRF 1.1 first then SFR 1.2, then a kernel and make sure he has been converted to ext4 from rfs, than probably have journaling on, and the list goes on.
Go kernel first! And if that works and is stable and your phone works perfect after a week of use, then you can go on to the next step!
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That is awesome advice. That is what I did back in November. Genocide was the first thing I flashed after rooting to change my bootanimation.
Its due to apps on sd card having a shortcut on a home screen or on a folder on a home screen. I don't think file system, kernel, or ROM will improve that very much. I would hate for you to go to all the work to find no improvement.
The cache and speed tweaks could help and a faster card could help. You might also give a new launcher a try. In the end, I decided to just keep apps on internal memory that I needed on home screen. Same as the 98% - 2% guy above.
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We all know Android has that 'lag'. Is your phone laggy?
I've done everything and my Play is still laggy
GetPatriotized said:
We all know Android has that 'lag'. Is your phone laggy?
I've done everything and my Play is still laggy
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Just got Xperia play today and I'm dissapointed majorly with it.
I have a Droid X and it never lags
running GummyJAR minimal ROM. 1ghz TI processor 512 ram.
Never misses a beat
I got this loaded crap Xperia and the thing is the slowest android device i have ever messed with. even slower then my friends Ereader. How can this be possible.
I agree the XP is a laggy machine
No lag here, 2.3.4 stock carrier free firmware. Rooted. Nothing frozen. Stock sd card.
I've had it for about 8 months now. Deleted all of the bloatware, deleted the useless apps. Cleared cache every time once in a while and still.
Switching between Sony Home 2.0 and LauncherProPlus(using the two) and still.
Same as swebosdev. No lag on 2.3.4. Everything from menus to transitions to most games have been silky smooth. Especially since I got launcherpro.
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Lies,I'm sure there is lag. Video or GTFO.
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Lies,I'm sure there is lag. Video or GTFO.
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Delete bloatware/memory hogging laggy apps instead of complaining, or install fresh 2.3.4
I'm running stock ROM, used root explorer to delete all the bloatware and lag free... things pretty snappy. Then again I'm on Verizon and its running stock vanilla gingerbread, well minus the crapware Verizon installed..... but yup pretty fast. And now that I have it overclocked to 1.4ghz zoom. But it was fast even before. Have you tried deleting the bloatware? Made my phone so much faster. That and supercharger script. Those are the two I would recommend as a must. Bloatware gone and run the supercharger script. World of difference.
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No lag here - using stock launcher.
The stock web browser is pretty slow though, but I use Opera Mobile which is supposed to be hardware accelerated and it is visibly much smoother than stock.
GetPatriotized said:
Lies,I'm sure there is lag. Video or GTFO.
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I have no reason to bs you, im very happy with my phone.
ff7fan4eva said:
Delete bloatware/memory hogging laggy apps instead of complaining, or install fresh 2.3.4
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Reflashed twice in 3 days. Deleted everything I didn't need. I'm not complaining. I'm just wondering if they're experiencing lag on their PLAYs.
swebosdev said:
I have no reason to bs you, im very happy with my phone.
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It's weird then. Your previous phone must of been ancient if you think the phone is fast as it is.
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Reflashed twice in 3 days. Deleted everything I didn't need. I'm not complaining. I'm just wondering if they're experiencing lag on their PLAYs.
It's weird then. Your previous phone must of been ancient if you think the phone is fast as it is.
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My last phone was a Desire HD and my play is much faster and less laggy. Infact the only time it lags is if im installing apps from the market.
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I've tweaked my XPlay's performance a lot, and as long as nothing is downloading in the background, it's super fast (especially because of DooMKerneL)
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It's weird then. Your previous phone must of been ancient if you think the phone is fast as it is.
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You could be right as phones tend to last years for me. My previous phone was a bb9700, i passed it down to the wife so i could buy this one.
Have had it since may, never been a single issue with errors or lag.
Thats not to say im out of the performance loop as my focus was and still is in tablets. Done alot of work with froyo, webos,Maemo.
Yes my phone does lag occasionally, but for basic functions like Texting, calling, etc.. It's fine. I just installed the v8 supercharger script today so I will see if that helps.
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do you need the bootloader unlocked to install the v8 supercharger script or just rooted?
Rigg3L said:
do you need the bootloader unlocked to install the v8 supercharger script or just rooted?
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Rooted and with busybox installed (look in android market for busybox installer). Busybox version between 1.16.2 & 1.18.2 are recommended I believe.
EDIT: Pretty sure it's v6 also, not v8. Unless that's a new beta or something
I just installed the script myself, it does seem to make my phone a bit snappier!
No lag here for me. Go to Settings -> Applications -> Running Services and check how many processes are listed there, I only have 4/5.
ff7fan4eva said:
Delete bloatware/memory hogging laggy apps instead of complaining, or install fresh 2.3.4
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Actually, one has every right to complain that it comes essentially broken out of the box unless you void your warranty. AT&T in particular crippled the phone so much that it became unusable after allowing a few included apps to download their files and installing a couple more apps from the market, assuming you set up Facebook and all the accounts during initial setup like a good little user. It's because they only left 100MB of internal storage available and run an absolute crap-load of processes in the background. Granted, it may not be the phone's fault, but you should not have to void your warranty or be some XDA-guru to use it.