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Captivate is Laggy vs other Androids

I have been playing around with ATT Android phones over the last several months. I started with a Nexus One, nice phone very fast. Then purchased an Aria for the fun of it... again fast phone but too small. Lastly yesterday I picked up the Captivate, and with a 1ghz, the Aria seems faster than this phone. Seems to lag between screens and boot. Is it just me or anyone else see this? Is there a quick fix for this? Anyone?
Oh I hate touchwiz, worthless crap for a UI.....loaded ADW launcher instead
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Larry

It really is a software thing with Touchwiz. After I installed Launcher pro I never looked back and it has been a lot faster.

There may be a bunch of apps running slowing the phone down. I have Advanced task killer, and kill a bunch of app every once in a while when It starts feeling slow.

tbae2 said:
It really is a software thing with Touchwiz. After I installed Launcher pro I never looked back and it has been a lot faster.
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Where did you find this Launcher pro, and how much faster is it than stock?

Check #17 out in this post. The Euro version owners have known about this for some time.
There are some fixes - but, most likely not until we can get some custom ROMS.

Launcher Pro helps a lot, just search the app market for it.

Ive been doing side by side comparisons of my N1 running CM6 and the Captivate all day. The Captivate is faster 95% of the time. Both running ADW launcher.

You can load ADW or LauncherPro from the Market. When you set as default home, you will not be able to use "Touchwiz" widgets.......

wpb2 said:
Where did you find this Launcher pro, and how much faster is it than stock?
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A crapload faster. After installing it, the device is like lightning , haven't had any pauses. Just search the market. Think it is a beta.

Yes to all new samsung galaxy S owners get rid of the ****ty touchwiz launcher it sucks and its laggy as hell, get launcher pro instead.

whats the best widget pack to replace the touchwiz ones
is there a way to port sense widgets? (push from a htc/pull to captivate or something)

Kagoshema said:
whats the best widget pack to replace the touchwiz ones
is there a way to port sense widgets? (push from a htc/pull to captivate or something)
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eventually. Widget packs.. hmm you should just try out new stuff, explore and what not

Also, new news so to speak - LauncherPro will be coming out with a lot of integrated widgets that are similar to the SenseUI widgets.
Koxx - here on xda has made some really great widgets. I think I have purchased them all. MoonSpoon (used to be a very active themer and now is a lurker due to being busy elsewhere) made themes for all of Koxx's widgets.

If I just want to go back to the default Android drawer can I install the Launcher.apk from a Cyanogen 5.8 rom?

Even with Launcher Pro there seems to be some lagging issues. On the Vibrant thread, the a subject on Fixing Stalling/Lagging. On the vibrant it seems you can partition your SD card and have the files run off of it. They said that it runs faster on the sd card then the built in memory card. I trying to do this procedure but kind of stuck. I can't seem to get the phone in download mode. Still searching around if i can find out i let you guys know. Meantime check out the thread and if you find out or know how post it up on the Captivate side. Not much instructions on "HOW TO MOD CAPTIVATE" in our thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251

sl8125 said:
Even with Launcher Pro there seems to be some lagging issues. On the Vibrant thread, the a subject on Fixing Stalling/Lagging. On the vibrant it seems you can partition your SD card and have the files run off of it. They said that it runs faster on the sd card then the built in memory card. I trying to do this procedure but kind of stuck. I can't seem to get the phone in download mode. Still searching around if i can find out i let you guys know. Meantime check out the thread and if you find out or know how post it up on the Captivate side. Not much instructions on "HOW TO MOD CAPTIVATE" in our thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
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Arguably, I don't see why this wouldn't work on the Captivate. Granted, I'm not going to be the one to try it right now, but it really should work just like that. Anyone feeling ballsy enough to give it a try?

I trying to get it done. but i am just not sure how it's done. trying to follow procedure but can't get pass step one. LOL

dougp.me said:
Arguably, I don't see why this wouldn't work on the Captivate. Granted, I'm not going to be the one to try it right now, but it really should work just like that. Anyone feeling ballsy enough to give it a try?
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I did it. It works great.
No more stalling at the moment, and my Quadrant score went up 100 points as well.
But be sure to follow the steps, and make sure you have enough room in data/data, and keep in mind that you can still fill data/data up with app installation. Google Earth is particularly bad about eating space here.
And keep in mind that the Galaxy S people that did this find that eventually it starts to stall again, so this is a band-aid.
When I get home tonight, I'll try the better, more effective SD card method, don't have an easy way to make an /ext3 partition on an SD card at the moment.

sl8125 said:
I trying to get it done. but i am just not sure how it's done. trying to follow procedure but can't get pass step one. LOL
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You need an external SD card, a program that will let you partition the ext3 format, and then you just need to follow their commands. Where are you getting stuck, maybe I can help guide you.

Croak said:
I did it. It works great.
No more stalling at the moment, and my Quadrant score went up 100 points as well.
But be sure to follow the steps, and make sure you have enough room in data/data, and keep in mind that you can still fill data/data up with app installation. Google Earth is particularly bad about eating space here.
And keep in mind that the Galaxy S people that did this find that eventually it starts to stall again, so this is a band-aid.
When I get home tonight, I'll try the better, more effective SD card method, don't have an easy way to make an /ext3 partition on an SD card at the moment.
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There's a few tools, but most will require a live CD to utilize.

Available RAM

I have not heard too much about this, but the available RAM on my Atrix is around ~155-160MB which seems really low considering nothing but syncing services are running.
How is your phone keeping up?

i.mac said:
I have not heard too much about this, but the available RAM on my Atrix is around ~155-160MB which seems really low considering nothing but syncing services are running.
How is your phone keeping up?
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That is normal. Everyone needs to read up on how RAM works on an Android phone. Especially Android 2.2+

http://android.nextapp.com/site/systempanel/doc/taskmanagement

live4nyy said:
That is normal. Everyone needs to read up on how RAM works on an Android phone. Especially Android 2.2+
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That's a relief. I haven't had any issues in speed with the phone. I'm just getting apprehensive because there is so much negativity in these forums about the phone. :/

i.mac said:
That's a relief. I haven't had any issues in speed with the phone. I'm just getting apprehensive because there is so much negativity in these forums about the phone. :/
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Yeah, I hear ya. I forget sometimes that a task killer used to be essential on older versions like 1.5/1.6

I usually have between 250-400 free, but I turn my phone off and on once or twice a day to keep it running fresh. I never see available ram that low.

im usually at around 400-450 when i keep it normal....try to clean up the crap out some bloated scripts on webtop, that'll free up some space, and also delete the bloatware from the apps...if you do that and don't run a secondary launcher, you should be fine...im just running motoblur adeo modded which keeps it lean.

I am running launcher pro. I'll try running Blur. How do I remove the bloatware?

i.mac said:
I am running launcher pro. I'll try running Blur. How do I remove the bloatware?
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well delete LP (it runs about 50mb when fully initialized), delete all the stock apps that you really don't need, also install adeo rom which will deox your apps so it wont run at boot, you can also install atk (it wont read the ram accurately since it has conflicts with the dual core for some reason) but it does work. it should then be at around 400+ on ram available.

You can add things to the auto close list in the built in task manager. Those apps will close out when the screen goes into standby. Lots of things stay running and sucking up ram without doing that.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

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http://android.nextapp.com/site/systempanel/doc/taskmanagement
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That is an interesting bit of information. I never realized any of that. I always look at the little memroy stat on my sense clock widget and hate when my memory gets low. I am always closing apps to bring up free ram.
This was one of the reasons I reverted from the adeo rom. Always had less than 200mb free and could barely get it higher. Without adeo I can keep it closer to 300mb.
It always seems that my phone runs fine no matter what the available ram states so it makes sense to me that it doesn't matter. Perhaps now I won't concern myself with it as much and maybe even give launcher pro another go.

Mafisometal said:
well delete LP (it runs about 50mb when fully initialized), delete all the stock apps that you really don't need, also install adeo rom which will deox your apps so it wont run at boot, you can also install atk (it wont read the ram accurately since it has conflicts with the dual core for some reason) but it does work. it should then be at around 400+ on ram available.
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waltah! said:
You can add things to the auto close list in the built in task manager. Those apps will close out when the screen goes into standby. Lots of things stay running and sucking up ram without doing that.
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I hate to say it but you guys have no idea what you're talking about. Just read the link I posted earlier and do some research on your own about the matter. All you're doing is putting stress on the system and killing your battery.

I have a ton of stuff on my phone and it usually doesn't go lower than 300mb free. Usually more around 400-450.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

live4nyy said:
I hate to say it but you guys have no idea what you're talking about. Just read the link I posted earlier and do some research on your own about the matter. All you're doing is putting stress on the system and killing your battery.
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this man speaks the truth.
I'm running launcher pro, blur stuff frozen, always have more than 300mb free. want to know the best way to clean up the RAM? go delete all the excess apps you don't actually need or use. I'm willing to bet there are a good number that you haven't used since first downloading thinking they'd be cool.

cegna09 said:
this man speaks the truth. .
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Yea, verily. This is why I'm not especially worried about the Bionic's or the G2X's smaller RAM capacities. I have killed a lot of bloatware and typically have more than half my Atrix's memory available. Since "available" basically equals "wasted", I'm not going to have any problem returning the phone to hold out for the G2X.
(I would probably feel differently if I could see myself getting much use out of the Atrix's webtop OS.)

Can anyone confirm if Adeo works on the Bell version? Thanks.
Also, do I use Titanium Backup to backup all the stock apps incase I decide to return?

i.mac said:
Can anyone confirm if Adeo works on the Bell version? Thanks.
Also, do I use Titanium Backup to backup all the stock apps incase I decide to return?
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Not sure if it's working for the Bell version.
The Adeo install script creates a backup file of your system files. Titanium will only backup the apk files, not the odex files. So if you wanted to return it you would have to take the created backup file, extract the required folders, then repackage and rename them to work with the adeounistall script. Be sure to replace the folder that is already in there.

live4nyy said:
Not sure if it's working for the Bell version.
The Adeo install script creates a backup file of your system files. Titanium will only backup the apk files, not the odex files. So if you wanted to return it you would have to take the created backup file, extract the required folders, then repackage and rename them to work with the adeounistall script. Be sure to replace the folder that is already in there.
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Wow! And I suppose there is a tutorial for this. I have used a lot of abd with my Nexus but I always had a tutorial to refer to.

Why do you need more than 200mb of RAM available? I use a Milestone 1 and I get 30 to 50MB available and it works like a charm. Memory management in Android is automatic, way different from a desktop OS. It frees up memory as soon as you need it.

I run Memory Booster which has task killer and quick boost. When I run it after start up, I hit around low 600 mb free. When I run it when the phone dips to the 300 mb range, it normally frees up 150 to 200 mb.

[Q] Internal HD speed

Does anyone know the speed on it, since a lot of my high read apps have huge issues with my transformer. I wanted to also know if there was anyway to point or force them to run off my class 10 card I got in it.

Its not a hard drive, its NAND flash memory and it should be as quick or quicker than your SD card

ryan stewart said:
Its not a hard drive, its NAND flash memory and it should be as quick or quicker than your SD card
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Weird, for some reason my tablet seems to be getting slower and it's driving me nuts. Now I am not sure if it's the custom rom or not, maybe I should just say nuts to it and get rid of root and reload the stock rom.
Is there a way to test the read wright speed so I can double check?

RiffyDivine said:
Weird, for some reason my tablet seems to be getting slower and it's driving me nuts. Now I am not sure if it's the custom rom or not, maybe I should just say nuts to it and get rid of root and reload the stock rom.
Is there a way to test the read wright speed so I can double check?
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Do you have a task killer running? If you do, then that's most likely the culprit.

hauj0bb said:
Do you have a task killer running? If you do, then that's most likely the culprit.
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Nope, the biggest issues are when just pictures or chandroid is running. They move fine but slow to a crippled crawl in a bit, as for a task killer I don't have any unless it comes stock off the custom rom.
Honestly it is annoying as hell when it gets to a craw and then force close over and over.

RiffyDivine said:
Nope, the biggest issues are when just pictures or chandroid is running. They move fine but slow to a crippled crawl in a bit, as for a task killer I don't have any unless it comes stock off the custom rom.
Honestly it is annoying as hell when it gets to a craw and then force close over and over.
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Sounds like it's just a bad app?

hauj0bb said:
Sounds like it's just a bad app?
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No, they both work fine on my nook and my hd2 and my other tablet. It's just the newest one I got (ie the transformer) that I started to notice the issue. I worked with the dev from chandroid and we tried everything and he said as he looked over the crash report that there was nothing wrong with the app.
On the stock build of OS, he said it was an issue being caused by splashtop stuff. Is there anyway to rip every program out by the core needed to run and let me add them one at a time to test?

RiffyDivine said:
No, they both work fine on my nook and my hd2 and my other tablet. It's just the newest one I got (ie the transformer) that I started to notice the issue. I worked with the dev from chandroid and we tried everything and he said as he looked over the crash report that there was nothing wrong with the app.
On the stock build of OS, he said it was an issue being caused by splashtop stuff. Is there anyway to rip every program out by the core needed to run and let me add them one at a time to test?
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If you're rooted, you should just be able to uninstall stuff with Titanium Backup.. but make sure you backup the app first.

hauj0bb said:
If you're rooted, you should just be able to uninstall stuff with Titanium Backup.. but make sure you backup the app first.
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Aye, I got root. I was hoping to find out if there was a rom that was just barebones. So more or less do a full backup and then pull them all out and test it one at a time? I can just do a backup in clockwork mod.
I am just reaching a head with being annoying and asking for help.

RiffyDivine said:
Aye, I got root. I was hoping to find out if there was a rom that was just barebones. So more or less do a full backup and then pull them all out and test it one at a time? I can just do a backup in clockwork mod.
I am just reaching a head with being annoying and asking for help.
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Yeah, I'm not aware of a super barebones rom. Full backup and uninstall one by one is what I would do.

hauj0bb said:
Yeah, I'm not aware of a super barebones rom. Full backup and uninstall one by one is what I would do.
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What is the best way to remove anything/everything? Cause if I got it backed up and if I blow the OS I can just do a recovery.

The easiest way would be to freeze the app with titanium backup, you could also just manually rename it or delete it.

RiffyDivine said:
No, they both work fine on my nook and my hd2 and my other tablet. It's just the newest one I got (ie the transformer) that I started to notice the issue. I worked with the dev from chandroid and we tried everything and he said as he looked over the crash report that there was nothing wrong with the app.
On the stock build of OS, he said it was an issue being caused by splashtop stuff. Is there anyway to rip every program out by the core needed to run and let me add them one at a time to test?
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Is the nook running honeycomb?

ryan stewart said:
Is the nook running honeycomb?
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I believe so.

RiffyDivine said:
I believe so.
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Should be obvious. Does it look and act identical to the transformer?
Once thing I have found is that apps can run well on older versions of android but have issues with honeycomb. Like cut the rope, it crashes and is slower to load on the tablet but blazes on my evo. Asked the dev and he said its not yet developed for honeycomb.
My TFs internal memory is plenty fast.

Just root it without someones Rom. Stock would be your goal to see if a Rom affects it.
Watchdog from the market would help. It would show you what apps are running and how much they are using the Cpu
When I use Dolphin HD or Pad I can see when it's hanging up...not loading the page then..it dies lol freaking apps.

ryan stewart said:
Should be obvious. Does it look and act identical to the transformer?
Once thing I have found is that apps can run well on older versions of android but have issues with honeycomb. Like cut the rope, it crashes and is slower to load on the tablet but blazes on my evo. Asked the dev and he said its not yet developed for honeycomb.
My TFs internal memory is plenty fast.
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It wasn't obvious cause I wasn't at home. Yes it is running 3.0 it's a stable honeycomb build but I never use the nook much if at all.

DilloDroid said:
Just root it without someones Rom. Stock would be your goal to see if a Rom affects it.
Watchdog from the market would help. It would show you what apps are running and how much they are using the Cpu
When I use Dolphin HD or Pad I can see when it's hanging up...not loading the page then..it dies lol freaking apps.
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I will try that, honestly I just want a way to see what's going on with it. I am not sure if it's using all the memory or what with all the images it loads. Since my problems always come from mass images loading.

Possibly just eating up your RAM then - the SSD shouldn't be (that) active if it's image loading and not saving.

Kireas said:
Possibly just eating up your RAM then - the SSD shouldn't be (that) active if it's image loading and not saving.
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Well like with just pictures, it's a big display of thumbnails for viewing your images. I know it can cashe the data to make it faster but that just seems to make it slower, as for chandroid the longer I use it the slower it gets. So maybe it's not purging old data?

Serious lagging...... rooted/no custom ROM

Quick brief:
I am still on 2.1, but I am rooted.......but not using any custom ROM/kernels. I mainly wanted to root to rid of the bloatware. I am rooted, and have CW installed. I used RootExplorer to rid of the bloatware. I have one ongoing issue, and 2 getting progressively worse.
1) My battery has progressively started to wear down faster. I've had my phone over a year now, so I went ahead and purchased a new factory battery. I have properly cycled the battery as you should with a new one (kill it dead, let it charge fully.....did this a couple times). I have not noticed much more of an extended life with the new battery, over the original.
2) I have been using LauncherPro since I rooted. I understand a custom ROM would probably run a ton better, but I barely was able to root my phone successfully by myself.....so I am not sure I want to try flashing it. I really like the customizable features LauncherPro has. Recently though, the phone has gotten really laggy. I notice it most when using the text feature. I had Handcent installed, which I downloaded on the phone at day 1.....so I figured it was that app hanging up. I uninstalled it, and am using the default messaging service. Sometimes its fairly quick, but it still hangs up......even using the default. I also tried DL'ing a new Launcher, and tried Regina. It was lightning fast, but after a few hours....it wouldn't run properly. I assigned it to run as default, but after 3-4 hours.......it would prompt me on which launcher to use.......so I uninstalled it. Now I am still using the default TW launcher.
3) When I rooted, I deleted a few apps that are critical to run nav......like text to speech. I reinstalled them and got my nav working again.....but 90% of the time when I use nav......it takes the upwards of 10-15 minutes for it to find my location. Wtf? My phone is super hot by then too, so obviously my battery drops significantly.
Anyone help out with any sorts of resolution? Fwiw I don't have any apps running that I can see in task manager. I also have cache cleaner......so that is emptied regularly. When I started getting laggy, I installed the cache cleaner.....and it seemed to help alot. Then it got right back to as laggy as it was before......
I'm stumped.

Well, 2.2 came out a while ago and 2.3 is on its way. I say upgrade to 2.2 then to MIUI.
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Enyo. said:
......then to MIUI.
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Say what?
Sorry, guess I need to read up a bunch more to get acquainted with all of the acronyms.

MIUI is a custom ROM a very good one actually.
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MIUI is a custom ROM a very good one actually.
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Oh ok, thanks for clearing it up.......sorry for the noobiness.
I have a friend that has flashed his Galaxy multiple times.....so I am going to get him to flash my Fascinate. I'll find the DL for that one, and show him.
Anyone else have any idea why I could be so laggy, so sudden? Also, I noticed lag when using PowerAmp as well.

Not a clue, haven't been on 2.1 in such a long time. 2.3.5 here. But usually doing a full wipe/reinstall solves any lag issues. As for the gps, well, it sucks tremendously on our fascinates. I suggest the MIUI rom and glitch kernel. I get great battery life, no lag, 10 sec gps lock, and so much more
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tripacer99 said:
Not a clue, haven't been on 2.1 in such a long time. 2.3.5 here. But usually doing a full wipe/reinstall solves any lag issues. As for the gps, well, it sucks tremendously on our fascinates. I suggest the MIUI rom and glitch kernel. I get great battery life, no lag, 10 sec gps lock, and so much more
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Jmatch said:
MIUI is a custom ROM a very good one actually.
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+1 for this using the glitch kernel found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252871
i also flashed the latest gingerbread radio and im having good results

I'll definitely research those mentioned.
Just seems odd my phone all of a sudden force closes on alot of apps I've used since day 1.

LXative said:
I'll definitely research those mentioned.
Just seems odd my phone all of a sudden force closes on alot of apps I've used since day 1.
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Did you use Super-1-Click-Root to root your phone? It has a nasty side-effect of lagging up the phone post-root (at least in my, and others' experience)
Try turning off your phone, pulling out the battery for a minute, putting it back in and rebooting. That fixed mine.

Japots said:
Did you use Super-1-Click-Root to root your phone? It has a nasty side-effect of lagging up the phone post-root (at least in my, and others' experience)
Try turning off your phone, pulling out the battery for a minute, putting it back in and rebooting. That fixed mine.
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Nope, I did it using one of the methods in the sticky in this forum. Thanks for the suggestion though.

I'd suggest following the steps to flash completely back to stock FIRST using pentafive's rom here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178544) and ODIN (your friend will know this if they've flashed a lot of phones). Do not use PST, it doesn't always work. Once you get fully back to stock, flash whatever new rom, radio, kernel, etc that you want (see here for a good list... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013312).
I was having a lot of force closes after rooting (manually via adb) and a flash back to stock using penta's ROM corrected them all. I then flashed on to a new ROM and have had zero problems so far.

maybe get 2.2 or 2.3 and get voodoo?

Update:
Haven't flashed a ROM yet, but I got bored and wanted to try some easy things. I popped the cover off and took the SD card out, and rebooted the phone. Fast as lightning on reboot, with the SD card out. I stuck the card back in......and it was fine. It went 3-4 days, then all of a sudden starting lagging again really bad. Mind you, before I just pulled the card out......I clear my cache, don't have any apps running besides the launcher and whatever app I am trying to run, and have also rebooted with/without removing the battery many times......to no avail. So after 3-4 days, when it got laggy again......I took the SD card out and rebooted, and its fast as lightning again.
Corrupt SD card possibly?

LXative said:
Update:
Haven't flashed a ROM yet, but I got bored and wanted to try some easy things. I popped the cover off and took the SD card out, and rebooted the phone. Fast as lightning on reboot, with the SD card out. I stuck the card back in......and it was fine. It went 3-4 days, then all of a sudden starting lagging again really bad. Mind you, before I just pulled the card out......I clear my cache, don't have any apps running besides the launcher and whatever app I am trying to run, and have also rebooted with/without removing the battery many times......to no avail. So after 3-4 days, when it got laggy again......I took the SD card out and rebooted, and its fast as lightning again.
Corrupt SD card possibly?
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Anyone have a suggestion? This has happened many times now, it keeps repeating itself.
Phone starts lagging, removed SD card and reboot, fast as lightning. After 1-2 days, lagging again. Repeat.

If your SD was corrupted the phone would let you know, or things would start disappearing from the card.
This is the nightmare that we fassy owners have got to go through till we find the right Rom and tweak. Gingerbread has made this phone way better whether you use a TW or an Mtd Rom. Do some research and try one of them
Don't be afraid, it's fun
PWGB,TKSGB10-10, adren shot xix, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.

laureanop said:
If your SD was corrupted the phone would let you know, or things would start disappearing from the card.
This is the nightmare that we fassy owners have got to go through till we find the right Rom and tweak. Gingerbread has made this phone way better whether you use a TW or an Mtd Rom. Do some research and try one of them
Don't be afraid, it's fun
PWGB,TKSGB10-10, adren shot xix, honeycomb2.03, ec09 radio.
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Thanks for the reply. I am definitely not afraid to change ROM's, I'm just afraid to do it myself. I'll be doing it in the next week or two, a friend from work is going to flash it for me.
As for the laggy times though......I can't see how the card isn't the culprit. Every single time my phone gets laggy, when I pull the SD card it.....its lightning. A few times also, when the phone is starting to lag......I'll open my gallery and its usually all jumbled up, or it won't show me all of my pictures.
Maybe I need to reformat my SD card? Can I do that through my phone somehow?

[Q] How often does your RAM go over 90% used?

I've been using this app for the past few weeks:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleanmaster.mguard
and it seems like every other day or so, it warns me that my RAM use is over 90%?
Maybe the reason why Samusng put 3gb of RAM on this phone is because the software is so bloated?

Neo3D said:
I've been using this app for the past few weeks:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleanmaster.mguard
and it seems like every other day or so, it warns me that my RAM use is over 90%?
Maybe the reason why Samusng put 3gb of RAM on this phone is because the software is so bloated?
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That's normal, and infact good.
When you close an application, it leaves a bit of footprint in the RAM. So when you open it the next time, it opens faster. Incase the RAM starts running out, android removes the earlier apps from it.
Stop blaming Sammy for just about everything.

Neo3D said:
I've been using this app for the past few weeks:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleanmaster.mguard
and it seems like every other day or so, it warns me that my RAM use is over 90%?
Maybe the reason why Samusng put 3gb of RAM on this phone is because the software is so bloated?
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i have the same app and ive been on cm11 for weeks never had to use it not like when i was on tw sometimes 2/3 times aday

jaythenut said:
i have the same app and ive been on cm11 for weeks never had to use it not like when i was on tw sometimes 2/3 times aday
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Is it safe to use these app killer things or should we just let Android take care of it automatically? I thought I read somewhere that these things are bad and can make corruption?

Over 90%? I rarely go past 50%... Perks of running CM11

I rarely go past 50 and I use a TW based ROM..

radicalisto said:
I rarely go past 50 and I use a TW based ROM..
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I'm using stock TW on Tmo and I go over 90% at least every other day if not more

Might wanna check what apps you are using and have installed. Uninstall apps you don't use etc.

If you have root you can freeze apps you never use and I disagree it doesn't affect the system performance. On a boot up just about every application loads into memory and that's plain stupid, since most of those apps I never ever use. I was actually shocked when I looked at application manager and everything was loaded into memory. It was main reason I rooted my phone, to freeze all the garbage and bloat on my phone. You can also delete some of the stuff, but it gets little complicated if you delete wrong app and then other things don't work no more. I don't know if they load all programs into memory because of "just in time" compiler, another idiotic idea, why compile program once, when we can compile and waste time, every time we start the program. When new, my phone would use about 70% of memory right from the boot and would go to 90% over time, now I freeze just the most obvious stuff and start at 40% memory load. There is a spreadsheet listing all apps, what they do if they can be safely removed, it could help you get better control of your phone.

pete4k said:
If you have root you can freeze apps you never use and I disagree it doesn't affect the system performance. On a boot up just about every application loads into memory and that's plain stupid, since most of those apps I never ever use. I was actually shocked when I looked at application manager and everything was loaded into memory. It was main reason I rooted my phone, to freeze all the garbage and bloat on my phone. You can also delete some of the stuff, but it gets little complicated if you delete wrong app and then other things don't work no more. I don't know if they load all programs into memory because of "just in time" compiler, another idiotic idea, why compile program once, when we can compile and waste time, every time we start the program. When new, my phone would use about 70% of memory right from the boot and would go to 90% over time, now I freeze just the most obvious stuff and start at 40% memory load. There is a spreadsheet listing all apps, what they do if they can be safely removed, it could help you get better control of your phone.
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Which spreadsheet do you mean? Is it an accurate spreadsheet as to what we can freeze? Oh, do you need root to freeze?

pete4k said:
On a boot up just about every application loads into memory and that's plain stupid, since most of those apps I never ever use. I was actually shocked when I looked at application manager and everything was loaded into memory.
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^ This
I've just recently installed boot manager(requires root + xposed framework) to combat this very problem. It doesn't stop system apps from starting just user downloaded ones. TBH I haven't noticed any effect on the battery or the speed of the phone. Just when I restart, the phone has more free memory.
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I was on 4.3 MJ1 rooted and every day I would go up to 90% as it would notify me on the bar to clean.
Now I'm on 4.4 NA6 rooted and I don't get the popup anymore, the 340mb RAM bump is quite useful.

nicholaschum said:
the 340mb RAM bump is quite useful.
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What does that mean? KK uses 340mb less RAM?

Neo3D said:
Which spreadsheet do you mean? Is it an accurate spreadsheet as to what we can freeze? Oh, do you need root to freeze?
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here is the spreadsheet listing apps, what they do and if they're safe to remove or freeze, it is not complete but good starting point. Just be careful, don't touch stuff you're not sure about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470862
Since Google, just like Crapple thinks all their users are idiots and should be saved from themselves, yeah you need to root to just do anything on your phone. You can go to Application manager and force close programs you don't use without root but:
1. you need to do it every time phone starts one by one
2. some programs will restart by themselves anyway
When you freeze, you do it once and that's it. ROM Toolbox has pretty much all you need.
As far as 4.4 goes, yep you may get some RAM back but pretty much loose access to your SD card, if you have one, something like going from shower into the rain

Neo3D said:
What does that mean? KK uses 340mb less RAM?
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You get more RAM on KK. 340mb more.

nicholaschum said:
You get more RAM on KK. 340mb more.
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But KitKat disables the micro SD card?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2613816

Neo3D said:
But KitKat disables the micro SD card?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2613816
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MicroSD works on mine. Maybe its because of different variants. But I run custom ROM X-Note 8.0, and most of my media is in MicroSD.

Neo3D said:
But KitKat disables the micro SD card?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2613816
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KK introduces new permission for SD card usage that breaks writing to SD for most 3rd party apps, you can fix it if you're rooted or run custom ROM, like above poster, but I don't think there is a way to root KK without tripping Knox flag and so you may be loosing your warranty.
I'm rooted on 4.3 and my flag is x0, so for me this is the way it will have to stay.

denski101 said:
^ This
I've just recently installed boot manager(requires root + xposed framework) to combat this very problem. It doesn't stop system apps from starting just user downloaded ones. TBH I haven't noticed any effect on the battery or the speed of the phone. Just when I restart, the phone has more free memory.
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Just to add to this.
Here's another app I've been using to clear ram.
Advanced Task Cleaner Pro (doesn't require root)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bright.taskcleaner
The advantage this app has over the regular way of clearing ram is that you can create an auto-kill list, which will stop apps from reloading back into the memory after being killed. It will show system as well as user apps and processes currently running.
Digging through the settings there's also a setting to clear ram on system startup(non-root alt to boot manager)
I myself have never got the "full or almost full" memory notification, so I quess I've never maxed out the ram. I think most of these memory/app killing apps(including the one above) are aimed at low and middle tier mobiles which don't have sufficient memory to cope with multitasking and background processes, without stuttering and slowing to a halt.
Since my battery life is good, and I'm more than happy with the phone's speed, I haven't got a real need to clear the memory all the time. I have a habbit of closing apps after using them, although leaving apps in the background and/or not clearing memory after closing will result in faster opening times. There are quite a few claims that these ram killer apps save massive amounts of battery and what not, from my end I don't see this, although its important to check for yourself and come to you own conclusions.
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