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To give some background, I've used so many winmo devices and have had no problems unlocking and installing ROMs, etc.
but, now that i've jumped to android i'm just extremely confused with where to start.
to be honest, i am happy with the stock ROM, but i'd like to be able to utilize more RAM, tether, etc. i prefer stability over appearance, so i could care less about having the HTC desire look & feel.
It seems that nearly all of the ROMs are providing the desire look...and I don't even where to begin in rooting my device. Is it possible to root the device, take advantage of extra RAM, while still using the stock ROM?
If there's someone that can walk me through this on AIM or something, i'd be happy to paypal them some $ for their time.
gsvnet said:
To give some background, I've used so many winmo devices and have had no problems unlocking and installing ROMs, etc.
but, now that i've jumped to android i'm just extremely confused with where to start.
to be honest, i am happy with the stock ROM, but i'd like to be able to utilize more RAM, tether, etc. i prefer stability over appearance, so i could care less about having the HTC desire look & feel.
It seems that nearly all of the ROMs are providing the desire look...and I don't even where to begin in rooting my device. Is it possible to root the device, take advantage of extra RAM, while still using the stock ROM?
If there's someone that can walk me through this on AIM or something, i'd be happy to paypal them some $ for their time.
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Why not use Cyanogens Mod? It's not Desire, and works perfect...
JJackson9995 said:
Why not use Cyanogens Mod? It's not Desire, and works perfect...
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I'll give that a try then...will be following this:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_Nexus_One_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
gsvnet said:
I'll give that a try then...will be following this:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_Nexus_One_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
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That's perfect for what you're wanting. Have fun!
Just followed all of the steps, thinking I did everything correctly.
I rebooted the phone as per the last step from the recovery screen, and now all I have is the fancy boot animations looping on my device, nothing further is happening at all!
I'm not sure if it's safe to do a battery pull? I've already done the flashing, etc...
Tried a battery pull - and it's still doing the same thing.
Not sure how to proceed with this now.
Edit: Just wiped, and am reflashing.
Edit 2: All good now! phew
gsvnet said:
Tried a battery pull - and it's still doing the same thing.
Not sure how to proceed with this now.
Edit: Just wiped, and am reflashing.
Edit 2: All good now! phew
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Good to hear!
Just a little tid bit, the only time you need to worry about if a battery pull is a bad idea is when you are flashing a radio, or SPL(down the road when there are new ones). If you are seeing boot animations, as you were, there is no fear in a battery pull... and the loop you experienced was a result of not wiping properly.
pjcforpres said:
and the loop you experienced was a result of not wiping properly.
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lol this made me laugh childishly.
pjcforpres said:
Good to hear!
Just a little tid bit, the only time you need to worry about if a battery pull is a bad idea is when you are flashing a radio, or SPL(down the road when there are new ones). If you are seeing boot animations, as you were, there is no fear in a battery pull... and the loop you experienced was a result of not wiping properly.
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Weird...could have sworn I had wiped it the first time...
Anyways, no big deal. All is well now.
Be sure to pick this up too:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
It's for wifi tether
PhantomRampage said:
Be sure to pick this up too:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
It's for wifi tether
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Thanks - that works really well.
I just rooted my (R2-D2) Droid 2 two days ago using the app z4root (via 4shared). I'm on stock 2.2 (and by that I mean what came on the phone, so it's actually a light Blur 2.2)
Then I wanted to get rid of some of the bloatware, so I downloaded Bloat Freezer (still available on the Market) to do that. After freezing whatever apps I saw fit, I returned to see my homescreen black. I did some research and apparently this stems from "freezing" something to do with MotoBlur. I know for sure that I froze "Files" and "AccountSync", which apparently caused this problem with other people.
Supposedly a factor reset would fix it, but it didn't. So that's why I'm here.
So first I tried a normal reboot. That didn't work. Then I did a factory reset. I got all the way through the Setup Wizard, and then it took me back to the "Touch the Android to Begin" screen instead of closing to the home screen like normal. When I try to go through the Wizard again it crashes after syncing an account. I've tried three or four factory resets and this happens every time.
People had this problem while they were on other ROMs and supposedly flashing back to the original OS (not stock, but "stock" i.e. what Motorola put on the phone before), but I'm not on any other kind of ROM so I don't know if that would help.
Should I flash back to the original? Can I even do that if I haven't flashed an alternative ROM? Should I just try flashing to a different ROM (MIUI or Bugless Beast)? Can you even flash a ROM if you can't access most of the phone (the only things I have access to are my email [when the message icon pops up] and the hard reset menu thing)?
Note: Sorry if this isn't in the right thread, I couldn't figure out where to put malfunction type things. Mods can move it to where ever is appropriate. I also searched both XDA and the entire internet and either no one has this problem in the EXACT way I do (i.e. not on any special ROM) or the thread is extremely, extremely dead. So that's why I made the decision to post a new thread about it. Thanks!
Edit: I re-flashed my phone with RDS Lite, and while the homescreen is back it's extremely, extremely laggy. At first I thought it was broken again until I realized it was just taking so long to respond to my finger swipes. Right now it's trying to download 46 apps in the background, so I'll wait until that's done to try again. But I had faster responses even when everything was all broken and it was trying to install 46+ apps..
Those people were right. Find the .SBF file for your version of the Droid 2 and sbf back to "stock". That should fix you problem.
I'm in the process of RSDLite-ing right now, I wasn't sure if it would help though.. Stay tuned!
JJTheJetPlane5657 said:
I'm in the process of RSDLite-ing right now, I wasn't sure if it would help though.. Stay tuned!
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It should. Good luck.
Is this going to un-root my phone?
JJTheJetPlane5657 said:
Is this going to un-root my phone?
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I believe so. But it should be relatively easy to reroot.
UGH, IT TOOK AWAY MY R2-D2 BOOT ANIMATION......
Also, I noticed that you have the MIUI ROM. Do you feel like it performs better than stock? Faster? Sometimes I feel like the Blur-lite was a little laggy..
JJTheJetPlane5657 said:
UGH, IT TOOK AWAY MY R2-D2 BOOT ANIMATION......
Also, I noticed that you have the MIUI ROM. Do you feel like it performs better than stock? Faster? Sometimes I feel like the Blur-lite was a little laggy..
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Did you use the file specific to your phone? Either way, you should be able to get it back. Someone ripped out all the stuff from the R2D2 phone back when it came out. It's on the net somewhere.
I love Miui. It definitely performs better than stock and is much faster. I love the polished menu system and the included GB features are great. I especially love how you can customize practically everything. It has also greatly improved my battery life. I've been getting up to 20 hours on my standard extended battery. Good stuff. And if you don't like the iOSuck look of Miui, you can always download a different launcher (like ADW) and use that (like I did). Overall it performs surprisingly well considering it's on a locked phone.
(I've played with CM7 on my Incredible and PE on my now retired OG Droid. Miui definitely performs better.)
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Did you use the file specific to your phone? Either way, you should be able to get it back. Someone ripped out all the stuff from the R2D2 phone back when it came out. It's on the net somewhere.
I love Miui. It definitely performs better than stock and is much faster. I love the polished menu system and the included GB features are great. I especially love how you can customize practically everything. It has also greatly improved my battery life. I've been getting up to 20 hours on my standard extended battery. Good stuff. And if you don't like the iOSuck look of Miui, you can always download a different launcher (like ADW) and use that (like I did). Overall it performs surprisingly well considering it's on a locked phone.
(I've played with CM7 on my Incredible and PE on my now retired OG Droid. Miui definitely performs better.)
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Well apparently not.. I'll have to try and find the boot animation again.
And yeah, a lot of people have been saying the stuff about the battery life.. Have you ever tried Bugless Beast? Because that's the other ROM I'm stuck between. So I'm not sure which one is performing better on people's Droids
JJTheJetPlane5657 said:
Well apparently not.. I'll have to try and find the boot animation again.
And yeah, a lot of people have been saying the stuff about the battery life.. Have you ever tried Bugless Beast? Because that's the other ROM I'm stuck between. So I'm not sure which one is performing better on people's Droids
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I haven't used it yet, but I have heard good things. I probably will try it at one point though.
Like others have told me, you're just going to have to try them and see for youself. Different people have different experiences so it is difficult to determine which is better without some kind of experience with them.
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Is MIUI all in English now? I know about a year ago there were sill some things in Chinese (like the call button for example). From the pictures they showed on the official site of the Droid 2 port it looked pretty English, but I can't really find much more information on it than that..
JJTheJetPlane5657 said:
Is MIUI all in English now? I know about a year ago there were sill some things in Chinese (like the call button for example). From the pictures they showed on the official site of the Droid 2 port it looked pretty English, but I can't really find much more information on it than that..
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Yeah it got fully translated. It's all english. And very polished.
Hey guys,
I'm more of an HTC person and I'm trying to help out my boyfriend w/his Moto Droid Pro. The thing is the biggest POS and we're pretty close to doing an insurance replacement on it.
It's NOT rooted, he's not really a fan of messing w/the phone like I am but what I did for him last night was a factory data reset, wiped that sucker clean and now the phone is still painfully slow, his market is working but is slow and any app he downloads either says "loading" forever, or just does an immediate FC.
I told him that if the reset didn't fix it, we'd try rooting it, but I'm not even sure how the development is for this phone and if it would be fixed by that anyway.
Prior to me resetting the whole thing it would freeze all the time, he'd have to do a battery pull a few times a day, etc. He's ready to check the thing out the window (and I don't blame him -- I told him not to get a moto, lol).
He's running the 2.2 software and it says that no update is available for the phone.
What he likes about it is the keyboard style w/the touchscreen. He's not a huge fan of virtual keyboards and I think a slider style would annoy the sh*t out of him after a while too.
Anybody have any suggestions?
Thanks.
Hi
Hi,
All I can suggest is root and debloat. My phone was the same way It's not fast enough for the rom MOTO put on it.
You can find ways to upgrade to GB if you search around, or buy the TBH app, but that requires rooting.
What I did is go to droidforums, and install CM7 on mine. Be warned, it's still pretty hairy... some data issues... but it's really close to a stable mod. Now that I have CM on it, I don't mind the phone at all.
BE WARNED!!! If you go the CM route, DON'T, I repeat DON'T let the phone die (battery wise). You lose data and getting back is a pain. Next build or so should fix that.
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Hi,
All I can suggest is root and debloat. My phone was the same way It's not fast enough for the rom MOTO put on it.
You can find ways to upgrade to GB if you search around, or buy the TBH app, but that requires rooting.
What I did is go to droidforums, and install CM7 on mine. Be warned, it's still pretty hairy... some data issues... but it's really close to a stable mod. Now that I have CM on it, I don't mind the phone at all.
BE WARNED!!! If you go the CM route, DON'T, I repeat DON'T let the phone die (battery wise). You lose data and getting back is a pain. Next build or so should fix that.
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Which method did you use to root yours? I've seen mention of Z4 but all the info/questions, etc., on it seem to be a bit dated. I've also seen mention of a couple different one-click methods which would be my preferred method vs going the ADB line by line route I had to do w/my TBolt.
I'm guessing, just like any other phone it can be rooted and the stock ROM left on it? It'll just be that I'll be able to install TiB and freeze crap apps?
EDIT: Based on what I learned today (ie, time wasting at work, lol) I think I'm going to apply the OTA update that I've found online and at least get non-rooted GBread up and running. From there I'll use the one click method to root the phone, get TiB and freeze some stuff. Hopefully that will fix his phone. He's so frustrated.
Q for you too - if the phone is "not fast enough for the ROM Moto put on it" (as you said) won't putting a faster, better s/ware make it lag even more? Isn't stock GBread a faster ROM than the stock Froyo?
chimpsnest said:
Which method did you use to root yours? I've seen mention of Z4 but all the info/questions, etc., on it seem to be a bit dated. I've also seen mention of a couple different one-click methods which would be my preferred method vs going the ADB line by line route I had to do w/my TBolt.
I'm guessing, just like any other phone it can be rooted and the stock ROM left on it? It'll just be that I'll be able to install TiB and freeze crap apps?
EDIT: Based on what I learned today (ie, time wasting at work, lol) I think I'm going to apply the OTA update that I've found online and at least get non-rooted GBread up and running. From there I'll use the one click method to root the phone, get TiB and freeze some stuff. Hopefully that will fix his phone. He's so frustrated.
Q for you too - if the phone is "not fast enough for the ROM Moto put on it" (as you said) won't putting a faster, better s/ware make it lag even more? Isn't stock GBread a faster ROM than the stock Froyo?
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Based on your edit, sounds like you now know what to do, so you should be pretty well off.
To answer your question, no. GB and Froyo are very different. Even though they might look somewhat similar, GB actually has a lot of code clean up, and optimization. Theoretically, i guess it should run a little slower then Froyo, but what I think happened with the Pro is that the Froyo build has a ton more Blur(****) (read: pun) installed on it, and it's poorly coded (by Moto) so it uses up too many resources. I think the GB scaled back Blur a lot, and I think it's better coded and optimized, which actually makes the phone faster. Nowhere near as fast as CM7, but it's not bad.
The phone specs themselves aren't bad: 1GHz, and 5XX Ram, so I think on Froyo the Moto Blur crap took too much RAM up, whereas in GB it's a little better on the resources.
Hope that helps.
P.S. Shout out to a chic that digs "geek". We need more of your type
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Based on your edit, sounds like you now know what to do, so you should be pretty well off.
To answer your question, no. GB and Froyo are very different. Even though they might look somewhat similar, GB actually has a lot of code clean up, and optimization. Theoretically, i guess it should run a little slower then Froyo, but what I think happened with the Pro is that the Froyo build has a ton more Blur(****) (read: pun) installed on it, and it's poorly coded (by Moto) so it uses up too many resources. I think the GB scaled back Blur a lot, and I think it's better coded and optimized, which actually makes the phone faster. Nowhere near as fast as CM7, but it's not bad.
The phone specs themselves aren't bad: 1GHz, and 5XX Ram, so I think on Froyo the Moto Blur crap took too much RAM up, whereas in GB it's a little better on the resources.
Hope that helps.
P.S. Shout out to a chic that digs "geek". We need more of your type
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Thanks for the input the GB/Froyo differences explains a lot and the shout-out .... I've been trying to tell my BF how much better my phone (the TBolt) runs, even when I rooted the Eris it was sooo much better (thanks to Tazz!), but he always picked on me for the little things, if there were some glitch w/the new s/ware, etc.
Now, I'm hoping that doing the GBread install will open his eyes to the fact that folks around these parts do, for the most part, know what they are doing -and- he can belong to a special club now, the one that includes folks who have **** on their phone that their not supposed to lol
I'll start small, w/the official OTA leak and go from there .... baby steps lol.
Well, I put GB on his phone last night (was soooo easy to do), seems to be running a bit better, but we'll see what a full day makes of it.
chimpsnest did you use a tutorial to get GB on it? If so which one?
Also, I know I can probably search and find pretty quickly. But when going from Froyo to GB will I loose all my data/programs and such?
Thanks,
PEZ
Good Morning,
I used the method found here:
http://www.androidtotal.com/manually-download-install-android-2.3.3-update-motorola-droid-pro/
YOU WILL LOSE ROOT IF YOU HAVE IT, however, there is a way to now root GBread on the Dpro as far as I know.
As far as data, apps, etc., etc., I'm not certain as I had totally wiped my BF's phone back to be like the day he got it (factory reset) as a first resort when his started tweaking out. His phone has never been rooted, but I think I'm going to do that for him this weekend as he seems to be having the issue w/the keypad backlight and the only app to fix it is for rooted phones
The file you need to put on your Dpro is called "update.zip" - that's the file you need to put on your SD card. That file is in a folder in the file you download, you have to unzip the download file to find the zip.
Also, I kind of doubt you'll lose all your data as this is a VZW piece of software and I don't think they'd make everybody lose their everything via an OTA update, right?
So I tend to answer more questions that I ask on here, but now it's my turn!!
So, I've noticed at times that my KF is totally unresponsive from sleep. No power light, nothing. I have to press the power button for 20 seconds, then again to power on. This used to happen every so often on the Stock ROM.
However, since I've been on CM7 w/ TWRP/FFF, it hangs up every single day. At first I thought it was due to low charge, but it's doing it whilst the battery is over 90% full. I've had a nose around the CM7 settings and tweaks, but can't see anything obvious.
Running services at startup are:
Settings (presumably because I'm looking at settings to see this info!)
Google Services
Amazon Video (Not sure why this is running. I may uninstall to see if this is the problem) - Uninstalled. Will see how it goes.
DSPManager
Swype
Anybody else seen this? Anybody else got any ideas on how to resolve this?
Do a search for V6 SuperCharger and do some research on it I use it on my Fire and my 2 Android Phones it really helps with memory management
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I've not experienced this problem. My kindle fire has been pretty much perfect and I've never had to force a reboot. I'm also using the Sywpe keyboard.
asb2164 said:
Do a search for V6 SuperCharger and do some research on it I use it on my Fire and my 2 Android Phones it really helps with memory management
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Thanks, but I don't think memory is the problem here (I have 282MB free system memory right now). Something is putting it to sleep permanently.
I guess it's going to be a process of elimination. I might possibly go back to stock to see if it's really CM7 or the device hardware itself playing up.
sl0ttedpig said:
Thanks, but I don't think memory is the problem here (I have 282MB free system memory right now). Something is putting it to sleep permanently.
I guess it's going to be a process of elimination. I might possibly go back to stock to see if it's really CM7 or the device hardware itself playing up.
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I would not even bother reading the information I provided, reading is pretty hard chase a lot of gremlins first instead of the running a Script.
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asb2164 said:
I would not even bother reading the information I provided, reading is pretty hard chase a lot of gremlins first instead of the running a Script.
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Wow, seriously?!
I *did* read about it, and concluded that it was a memory management app. Given my symptoms, I cannot find one example of where this app would help me, and I'm not about to install something that is possibly just going to add further variables to an already odd behavior.
Show me where you think it's going to help (specific examples), and I'll gladly accept your thanks/suggestions.
Until then, I would ask you keep your snark for sites like Slashdot.
You did not read about it if you had you would have known it is not an app but a Script.
I do not hold people's hand and give links I make you search for it I am sure someone will come along and make you a video
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asb2164 said:
You did not read about it if you had you would have known it is not an app but a Script.
I do not hold people's hand and give links I make you search for it I am sure someone will come along and make you a video
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Again, Wow Seriously?!
Your definition of me not reading is based on me calling it an app over a script!? Interesting logic there.
However, I'm still wondering how you deduce that this is going to help my problem, and hence why I asked for specifics. I'm quite capable of finding information, but it's like you saying to me "Dude, install Angry Birds, it will solve all your problems". My conclusion was that there was nothing in that post that specifies "This will also help your system if it sleeps permanently" (clearly I'm paraphrasing there, just in case that wasn't clear). If I'm missing something, I'm all ears, but blindly recommending apps for no reason is no help to anyone.
Other than almost every decent ROM you will find on XDA already has this built into it and it will help I will leave it at that.
You also may try to wipe Data, Cache and Dalvik I usually do that at least 3 times on my HTC EVO Shift when I flash a new rom before it runs good.
Try that and see if it helps.
asb2164 said:
Other than almost every decent ROM you will find on XDA already has this built into it and it will help I will leave it at that.
You also may try to wipe Data, Cache and Dalvik I usually do that at least 3 times on my HTC EVO Shift when I flash a new rom before it runs good.
Try that and see if it helps.
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It may well be the CM7 ROM that was compiled for the KF, but what also makes me suspicious now is for the number of reads on this thread, not one other person has said "Yeah, I have the same issues", which either leads me to believe its a resident app, or possibly something wrong with my hardware. I'll keep digging, and possibly flash back to stock (as I said).
For the benefit of doubt, I'll always do a Factory Reset, and wipe all the Cache/Dalvik Cache. It's something I've done since I was flashing ROM's on my first Droid. But thanks for the suggestion.
You may have a bad flash back up your apps and re-flash CM7 and restore your apps and see if that helps.
I have rooted and flashed a lot of phones and I have had that happen a couple of times I re did the flash and everything was fine.
asb2164 said:
You may have a bad flash back up your apps and re-flash CM7 and restore your apps and see if that helps.
I have rooted and flashed a lot of phones and I have had that happen a couple of times I re did the flash and everything was fine.
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I guess it's entirely possible. I'll do a Titanium Backup now, re-flash, and see what happens. But as mentioned in my OP, I had this happen on stock 6.2, just not as frequently, so I'll be hoping that it is a bad flash, and not something inherently worse.
See how much better this conversation is now!
Sounds fishy to me as well. Did you clear the caches when installing new ROMs? I've had mine since it was release and have yet to have it hang and I've had 6.1,6.2, and now CM7 running flawlessly
Your problem is a bit unique so I don't mind throwing out a few ideas.
Mine is solid as a rock I am ready for a good overclocking kernel so I can stretch it's legs
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altitude909 said:
Sounds fishy to me as well. Did you clear the caches when installing new ROMs? I've had mine since it was release and have yet to have it hang and I've had 6.1,6.2, and now CM7 running flawlessly
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Yep, I always clear everything when moving to a new ROM. It's a habit that was drilled into me during my first custom ROM exploits on my Droid. I've even told people on here to do it too, so I'm practicing what I'm preaching!
I think what I'm going to do is, reflash to stock 6.2.1, use the new root method, push TWRP/FFF again, and then CM7. A little drastic, but I think that having a clean run at this might prove/disprove the theory.
My stock rom does this occasionally. Have to hold the power button for 20 secs to reset it.
krelvinaz said:
My stock rom does this occasionally. Have to hold the power button for 20 secs to reset it.
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Yeah, this is happening a little too frequently for my liking. Occasionally is fairly OK, every day is not. But it has got worse since going to CM7, but that could be purely coincidence at this point.
Trying some different things right now, but it will be a few days before I know for certain.
This may not be the problem at all, but I'll toss it out here anyway. On some of my Archos tablets, I have had this issue where the screen brightness was set very low. Anyway, if your brightness is set low, you might increase it to see if that makes a difference. I don't remember exactly at what level this problem starts, but I think it is when it is set below 20%.
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This may not be the problem at all, but I'll toss it out here anyway. On some of my Archos tablets, I have had this issue where the screen brightness was set very low. Anyway, if your brightness is set low, you might increase it to see if that makes a difference. I don't remember exactly at what level this problem starts, but I think it is when it is set below 20%.
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Thanks, that hadn't crossed my mind, but I like my brightness at a pretty high level, and as the sensor is not working currently, it pretty much stays at that level.
Back at stock 6.2.1 now. Going to root it and leave it like this for a few days to see what happens.
sl0ttedpig said:
It may well be the CM7 ROM that was compiled for the KF, but what also makes me suspicious now is for the number of reads on this thread, not one other person has said "Yeah, I have the same issues", which either leads me to believe its a resident app, or possibly something wrong with my hardware. I'll keep digging, and possibly flash back to stock (as I said).
For the benefit of doubt, I'll always do a Factory Reset, and wipe all the Cache/Dalvik Cache. It's something I've done since I was flashing ROM's on my first Droid. But thanks for the suggestion.
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Not sure if you have resloved this issue, but having read most of the Forum Dev Thread for the CM7 initial release and the newest reboot of the first ROM I think many others are having this issue as well. I remember reading many post people were referring to something similar to your problem as "the sleep of death." I however am not having that problem with mine, but thought it might be helpful to know that it might not be your device specific and may be something with CM7 itself with some devices.
Nexus 7 32GB is my first android device. Before I bought it, most people were saying that android is finally smooth, project butter and so on. But that's not the case here. I'm on 4.2.2 stock, have currents sync disabled, my storage is only half full, and my Nexus is starting to get on my nerves.
- screen rotation takes exactly 4 seconds, no exception.
- apps sometimes freeze, forcing me to force close them or even reboot occasionally.
- even some simple games, like Dragonvale, run like stop motion in certain segments.
- when I install ANY app, it seems that android service responsible to put icon on my home screen takes 100% CPU time for 10-15 seconds or so.
- when there are app updates, my nexus is unusable. Takes 10+ seconds for any action.
Say what you want about windows phone, but that thing flies. Am I maybe spoiled by it's buttery smoothness so android by comparison irritates me, or is there really something wrong with my Nexus? I already did hard reset once, early on. It did not help. Should I try again? If so, what backup solution is the easiest?
I know I might be asking a lot and that there are threads about this already, but info is scattered, and there are numerous contradicting opinions and advices. Basically I am just not sure if this is how it's supposed to be, or should I try something.
The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Terepin said:
The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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How do I detect a rouge app? Task manager? Can you recommend one?
It was slow to start with. Disabling currents sync did not help. And I did do reset in the first few days. Did not help.
Now, it's just even more slower. Perhaps by as much as 50% in some actions, if I can put a number on a subjective impression.
Dr.Molestratus said:
Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?
d.a.v.o.r said:
Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?
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Well if you want better performance... ROMs and kernels are the things to mess with.
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You should probably flash a ROM/kernel for best performance. But if you still don't want to mess with ROMs, reflash the stock rom and reroot it. That's what helped me.
I've had some issues with my phone lagging during/after app update, and i've only recently nailed down the culprit. Turns out it was the Root Uninstaller app that was making backups of older versions of the apps during the update, it ceased after i turned off the option in it's settings (or just uninstall). My guesstimate would be that you have some app that is doing just that. Because my own n7 doesn't noticeably lag even if i try to update many (as much as 10) apps at the same, which usually kills my single-core SGSL into a reboot shortly after trying this.
I think 4.2 is just buggy. It flies for me sometimes and on some devices, and sometimes it crawls horribly. Maybe the next android version will fix this, maybe not
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This helped me a little (If you don't use Currents then this could help)
1. Go to Settings > Apps > All (swipe right 2 times) > Currents
2. Click "Force Stop"
3. Click "Disable"
It should be now fixed for some of it. Like the earlier posts suggest, maybe reflashing stock ROM or installing a kernel (once you're comfortable) will help for sure.
It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.
AW: [Q] Is Nexus 7 supposed to be this way? (laggy)
If you're having a lot of apps installed you can get ram problems. Some apps are running in the background even if they don't need to. If you wanna know which apps those are simply go to apps and swipe to the second panel. There you can see which asps are running in the background .You should delete them. If you don't want to do that simply download the app Greenify
(You should have more than 200mb free)
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Entropy generator, I just use pimp my ROM, even on stock rooted.
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I'm on paranoid 2.54 which is 4.1 and it feels faster than cm10.1 I miss 4.2.2 fonts but I'll see If I get it.
BR.
d.a.v.o.r said:
It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.
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Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.
Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Wilks3y said:
Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.
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RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
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Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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It honestly shouldn't lag like that. Even bone stock.
One thing you can do right away is go into developer settings (click 7 times on Build Number in About Tablet to enable) and change all animation settings to.5 or to none.
DL Root Checker, or just try to use any root app to see if you actually do have root. Even with the wonderful toolkits (which will also save your bacon if you get into a bootloop) getting root to stick can be tricky...you may have to run it a couple of times.
But the best results will come if you flash a custom rom and kernel. if you like a tweaked stock experience, try CleanRom Inheritance. It uses the Aroma installer, so it's very easy and customizable. It can be found under Android Development.
d.a.v.o.r said:
RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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You can use titanium backup. It there others like carbon. But titanium has been around the longest and it's my preferred way. Requires root, and it should warn you at start up if you aren't rooted correctly.
I would do as others suggested and just restore basic apps after factory reboot and re root. Then slowly restore others to see if you notice other problems along the way.
Also, if you didn't know. You can install kernels without wiping tablet and changing the whole Rom. I would definitely try that eventually too.
One more thing to note. Don't judge android on chrome (not that you mentioned it, but I know a lot of newbies have). It's one of the slowest browsers. It has tons of great features which I love, but do slow compared to most others. I wish I wasn't so addicted to its syncing.
Thanks to everyone on advices.
1) root checker says I do not have proper root. Now that I think about it, I did update my Nexus 7 from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2. I guess that also removed root.
2) I will reset. I don't really have any messages or photos or app data that is not already in the cloud that I need to backup.
3) I'll try to gradually install everything app by app to see if it's a rouge app.
4) I'll than revive this thread with my results. Though I doubt I'll get to doing all that in the next few days.
Again, thanks everyone!