[Q] WM 6.5 and WP 7.5 - HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an

could it be possible to have WM 6.5 and WP 7.5 at same time?
as i understand we could have WM 6.5 and androidSD with magldr
also WP 7 takes part of SD Card for it needs (merge inphone storage with sd storage)

no.(not yet...but ..DFT was trying to make a wm6.5 sd version.........no news about it anymore).and no wm 6.5 with magldr

I did some reading on this an posted my findings somewhere, when I get home I'll link to it, but in short it won't work, UNLESS you have a 1024mb hd2, if magldr was re wrote an the 1024 was partitioned it could work. As magldr is and the fact most of us have 512 versions of the hd2, we are **** of luck. IF someone could find drivers for the hd2 to work with wm2003, then potentially you could have that running off SD, but there are no drivers that old, so once again, ain't going to happen.
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[Q] [SD] WP7

Could somebody tell me if there is possibility of running WP7 or WM 6 or 6.5 from SD card like Android??
No, WP7 formats the SD card into a unnown format witch can't boot linux! So no Android or others for now!
I know, but i'd like to run any windows phone or mobile from SD card, like Android relased by m-deejay such as: =MDJ FroYo HD v.4.6=.
piotrma14 said:
I know, but i'd like to run any windows phone or mobile from SD card, like Android relased by m-deejay such as: =MDJ FroYo HD v.4.6=.
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you can't run windows 7 and expect to run windows 6.5 from a sd card not possible, i seem somewhere you can run android from sd i'm not quite sure, but look first.
cotulla said in the mglr topic that his team is already at work for wm 6.5 on sd
CrAzYiaN said:
you can't run windows 7 and expect to run windows 6.5 from a sd card not possible, i seem somewhere you can run android from sd i'm not quite sure, but look first.
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Cotulla stated that he's working on a winmo6.5 that can be run from sd with magldr. I don't know how long it will take him if he's even successful, but cotulla's done some amazing things, so I think we'll see it done eventually.... at least I hope. I bought my HD2 originally because it was winmo, unlike a lot of people here who wanted to get rid of winmo as quick as possible. I still like winmo, but I have also grown a fondness to android and now wp7 is growing on me... and with the HD2, I will be able to run all of them! That will be great... have wp7 on nand, then android, wm6.5, ubuntu and hopefully meego from sd card... not to mention win98 and winxp emulation with qemu! I love my HD2.
I hope so. I was really looking forward to wp7 but now that I know you have to wipe wm6.5 & my android build to run it, im really disappointed. Looks like I was looking forward to nothing I was so hoping you could run wp7 & android off sd card & still have wm6 as base os. My hopes dashed
Fabian1985 said:
No, WP7 formats the SD card into a unnown format witch can't boot linux! So no Android or others for now!
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Wrong!
You can have WP7 on NAND and boot Android from SD, there is various guides for this since days ago.
TheATHEiST said:
Wrong!
You can have WP7 on NAND and boot Android from SD, there is various guides for this since days ago.
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Nice, I must of missed those posts. I went from an sd build to mdjs gingerbread nand rom...what a difference. battery lasts 1.5 days (some games dont work)
I tried wp7 but wanted to just mess around with it but still use android as my day phone. have you done it? what about ram builds are they beter then sd?

[Q] Can I use respectively Android and Windows Phone 7 OS on the two sd cards??

I'm wondering that if I have 2 sd cards, can I use Android and Windows phone 7 OS on each card respectively?
If I could, I would buy one more sd card for android.
Actually, I the most like Windows Phone 7 OS among Android, WP7, Meego and WM6.5.
Could anybody tell me about it pls?
The short answer is no.
You can run Android from your SD card and still have a Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM on your phone.
You can have an Android ROM flashed to your phone (NAND).
You can have WP7 flashed to your phone (NAND).
You cannot have two NAND builds flashed at the same time (e.g. Android and NAND).
Therefore the best you can do right now is to have either:
WinMo 6.5 AND Android, or
Android NAND, or
WP7
Your solution... buy another HD2
Yes, you can have WP7 on nand and attached with one sd card, and then use a different SD card to run android from. Android will not be on nand, but you can run it from sd with magldr. Thats what I'm doing so I have a lot of space for each os... I have my 16gb card for WP7, and my 32gb card I have several android builds working. Working great for me now! You have to make some changes to the init.rc file in most android builds to make them work, but there are a few that work as is. There's a couple stickied threads in the HD2 Android SD Development section.
Also, you can partition your SD card so you can have WP7 and android using the same card. Instructions also in the sd dev section.
nobnut said:
The short answer is no.
You can run Android from your SD card and still have a Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM on your phone.
You can have an Android ROM flashed to your phone (NAND).
You can have WP7 flashed to your phone (NAND).
You cannot have two NAND builds flashed at the same time (e.g. Android and NAND).
Therefore the best you can do right now is to have either:
WinMo 6.5 AND Android, or
Android NAND, or
WP7
Your solution... buy another HD2
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You forgot WP7 AND Android from SD
Quite correct, sorry.

Windows Phone 7 and Windows Mobile 6.5

Been away from the HD2 scene for a while, did a quick search but came up with nothing new since april.
Can someone tell me if it's possible to dual boot wm 6.5 and wp7 yet. Presumambly it would have to be wp7 on the ROM and wm 6.5 running from a partition of the SD?
Regards,
Mark
Wraith_17 said:
Been away from the HD2 scene for a while, did a quick search but came up with nothing new since april.
Can someone tell me if it's possible to dual boot wm 6.5 and wp7 yet. Presumambly it would have to be wp7 on the ROM and wm 6.5 running from a partition of the SD?
Regards,
Mark
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No, they both flash to NAND, neither can run from SD
Can the NAND be split to flash both OS's to the NAND and choose which you want at boot up?
Wraith_17 said:
Can the NAND be split to flash both OS's to the NAND and choose which you want at boot up?
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Can't be done, especially since WP7 does a complete raidzero with any existing SD partition + 512 of NAND, you cannot currently repartition for both operating systems.
Plus MAGLDR, which is required for WP7, erases WM6.5 from NAND.
I don't think it will ever be possible.
Ok thanks for the info

Getting an HD2, few questions.

Hey,
i already have a htc desire hd, but i'll get a htc hd2 nearly for free from a mate and i have a few questions.
I want to run android on the device, but i have read, that it will just start from the sd-card, and won't get "installed" or what ever on the device itself.
Is that true?
Second; i also have read, that, after you select the .exe from the sdcard and after you have booted up android, and turn off your device again, you won't get a boot option, if you want to run android, or if you want to run windows mobile.
besides, i'm from germany (you may already have recognized at my bad english...) and i have read, that the european version of the hd2 comes with less ram as the us-version. AND i have read, that you can unlock the ram from about 440mb ~ to the us-version's 576mb ram. is that true and how does that work?
i apologize for my bad english, i have given my best :<
regards.
The SD only android is not true. You have only been reading about starting android from SD using haret under winmo. You can wipe winmo completely and instal a nand android rom to the actual phone, and if you like you can have a second, SD android build dual booting from SD, with magldr offering you the choice.
This will be the most flashable phone any of us are likely to see, winmo, android, wp7, Ubuntu
, dual boot winmo/android, android/android, wp7/android(I think), winmo/android/Ubuntu..... there won't be a phone as opened up any time soon.
448 - 576 ram is true and will happen when you flash 2.08.hspl and then an android compatible radio. It can also be done on winmo by flashing a tmous rom and radio.
Go to the hd2 android section and read the nand subsection.
Quick answer for your first question is that you can start android from sd card but also mostly from nand (internal memory) too :] Depends what you want exactly. Us version of hd2 have more internal memory not ram as far as I know EU version got something like 512mb and US has about 1gb, about ram memory ofcourse you can unlock more ram about 576 with new radio (you can install easy). I dont know anything about exe files didnt try it yet as I bought my hd2 two months ago Hope I helped you a bit
So far, i have found this programm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792
which lets me choose between android and windows mobile, after i have booted up windows.
but a), is it possible to get this choice direclty before the device boots up, and b), does this DualBoot only support android and windows mobile, or does it also work with windows 7 mobile and ubtuntu and so one?
regards.
Scr!pt0 said:
So far, i have found this programm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792
which lets me choose between android and windows mobile, after i have booted up windows.
but a), is it possible to get this choice direclty before the device boots up, and b), does this DualBoot only support android and windows mobile, or does it also work with windows 7 mobile and ubtuntu and so one?
regards.
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The program you mention is almost 2 years old and created before the Android for HD2 was even developed. You don't have to bother with that program because you will be using magldr. You will get a choice to select an OS from the magldr menu as soon as the phone starts up and before it boots into an OS of your choice. The magldr supports WP7/7.5 and Android SD boot choices for me, as I am sure it does every other combination, just the matter of setting it up to do what you want.

Any chance to run wp7 from sd totally?

and use android in the nand? i want use wp7 only for make hd videos and use android for all days, let me know please
no.... it's impossible.... WP7 system not operate in that way... WP7 must be flashed to NAND and use SDcard as storage and RAM memory
it's a shame! with android is possibile and with wp7 not
I remember several months ago there was speak of cotulla creating a way to boy wm 6.5 via sd card too but i never heard anything since..maybe just because 6.5 has continued to lose favor
you cant boot WM6.5 by SD card either an doesnt SD android copy its self to RAM? WM2003 might be possible.
The clever chap has got some form or working WM5/6 Emulator working under WP7 if that has direct hardware support, im talking com ports etc, the HD2 would become perfect
course another interesting experiement would be running android via WM6 which is running on WP7, im sure it would run like **** if it was even possible but damn that would be pretty cool
Oberness13 said:
I remember several months ago there was speak of cotulla creating a way to boy wm 6.5 via sd card too but i never heard anything since..maybe just because 6.5 has continued to lose favor
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Perhaps what you are thinking about was that there was some talk about a 3-in-1 DFT ROM for the US T-Mobile HD2 that would be able to run Windows Phone 7 or Windows Mobile from NAND memory and Android from the Micro SD card. When booting the phone it would be possible to choose 1 of the 3 operating systems. Other versions of the HD2 (such as the European or Asian models of the phone) do not have enough NAND memory for a 3-in-1 ROM.
is possible install wp7 and android in nand together?
rlydiard said:
Perhaps what you are thinking about was that there was some talk about a 3-in-1 DFT ROM for the US T-Mobile HD2 that would be able to run Windows Phone 7 or Windows Mobile from NAND memory and Android from the Micro SD card. When booting the phone it would be possible to choose 1 of the 3 operating systems. Other versions of the HD2 (such as the European or Asian models of the phone) do not have enough NAND memory for a 3-in-1 ROM.
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"We (DFT Team) developing several interesting stuffs for LEO, like WM65 running from SD card!"
This is what I was talking about... from Cotulla's twitter..apparently that post was in January of 2011 though
Oberness13 said:
"We (DFT Team) developing several interesting stuffs for LEO, like WM65 running from SD card!"
This is what I was talking about... from Cotulla's twitter..apparently that post was in January of 2011 though
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i did some research on this with MS documents and i dont think its possible without it running like **** or having persistant storage issues. WM2003 didnt need persistant storage and ran mostly from RAM (thats why in the good old days if your battery died it reset!) so that might be possible although you'd probably run in to driver issues.
With Android you can more or less change what the OS does, with WM you cant
Essentially SD is very slow, you could build a form of loader that would install to SD but thats not ideal because you need to run the OS in RAM, RAM drives would do, but thats not persistant and WM didnt have a way of mirroring that data back to the SD. In essence, it was never designed to do it, and it was never designed to be changed, so its unlikely it will run from SD unless those issues could be resolved.
I think the 1GB HD2 was going to get a dual boot at one point, and this new emulator looks promising, thats about as close as we'll get i suspect, but then again, perhaps i miss understood what i saw..
WM7.5
Any step by step instruction to install wm7.5 to my HD2
try see tutorial in my signature
djsolidsnake86 said:
is possible install wp7 and android in nand together?
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I would guess that it all depends on what MAGDLR 2.01 has in its arsenal. Only time will reveal that. And, for sure it would only be possible on the US T-Mobile version of the phone.
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Dual Boot Windows Phone 7 & Android
djsolidsnake86 said:
is possible install wp7 and android in nand together?
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Have a look at this post:
[06 FEB][VIDEO TUT]Dual Boot Windows Phone 7 & Android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944288

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