Been away from the HD2 scene for a while, did a quick search but came up with nothing new since april.
Can someone tell me if it's possible to dual boot wm 6.5 and wp7 yet. Presumambly it would have to be wp7 on the ROM and wm 6.5 running from a partition of the SD?
Regards,
Mark
Wraith_17 said:
Been away from the HD2 scene for a while, did a quick search but came up with nothing new since april.
Can someone tell me if it's possible to dual boot wm 6.5 and wp7 yet. Presumambly it would have to be wp7 on the ROM and wm 6.5 running from a partition of the SD?
Regards,
Mark
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No, they both flash to NAND, neither can run from SD
Can the NAND be split to flash both OS's to the NAND and choose which you want at boot up?
Wraith_17 said:
Can the NAND be split to flash both OS's to the NAND and choose which you want at boot up?
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Can't be done, especially since WP7 does a complete raidzero with any existing SD partition + 512 of NAND, you cannot currently repartition for both operating systems.
Plus MAGLDR, which is required for WP7, erases WM6.5 from NAND.
I don't think it will ever be possible.
Ok thanks for the info
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Hi all
Since Magldr is out,
I used to think this was possible
WINMO on NAND + MAGLDR running android from SD
So if i wanted winmo i just boot straight into my phone if i want android choose it from MAGLDR and boot straight into it
Am i missing something ...
mally2 said:
Am i missing something ...
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Actually yeah I thought I remember somewhere you could still use windows on nand and android on sd, or android on nand and sd.
TheATHEiST said:
Actually yeah I thought I remember somewhere you could still use windows on nand and android on sd, or android on nand and sd.
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EXACTLY ...
its on the wiki page :O
Yeah you're missing something alright.
the MAGLDR enables the ability to load Android from the NAND instead, wiping out WinMo.
Psygnosis84 said:
Yeah you're missing something alright.
the MAGLDR enables the ability to load Android from the NAND instead, wiping out WinMo.
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yes i know that very well,,,
did you happen to read this
http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Magldr
may be cotulla can shed light on this
Keeping WinMo and Having direct boot of Android of sdcard sounds good to me. I read in gauners and cotullas builds that sdcard was faster for reads/writes than nand? Did I read that right?
Also, can anyone answer why you can't have both Android and Winmo on Nand dual booting? I am sure there are good reasons, I just don't know what they are? Is it like in a hard drive where you have the 'active' partition?
pablo71 said:
Keeping WinMo and Having direct boot of Android of sdcard sounds good to me. I read in gauners and cotullas builds that sdcard was faster for reads/writes than nand? Did I read that right?
Also, can anyone answer why you can't have both Android and Winmo on Nand dual booting? I am sure there are good reasons, I just don't know what they are? Is it like in a hard drive where you have the 'active' partition?
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I am perfectly happy with MAGLDR the way it is now,,,
But i was under the impression that WIN mo could be in NAND and Android of SD with MAGLDR we can directly boot android of SD
mally2 said:
But i was under the impression that WIN mo could be in NAND and Android of SD with MAGLDR we can directly boot android of SD
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Yes, I read that on the wiki that was linked above. I like booting Android off sd, but what has me concerned is people a few people saying that sdcards can only handle about 1000writes per block before they go bad. Not a big deal, but someone also wisely said that 'electronics die at the worst time.'
I would really like to know if this is possible
RUN ANDROID, WP7, AND REG WINMO 6.5 on NAND???????
or at least have some way off keeping WINMO 6.5 while being able to use WP7 AND ANDROID
please no has yet to answer this!
I haven't bothered installing the MAGLDR yet because I am very comfortable with my setup, I have windows mobile 6.5 with android SD, however would it be possible to dual boot Windows Phone 7 with android or Windows Mobile 6.5 on the Nand? Like for the TMOUS1024 devices? I've read on the chinese site for the DFT that its possible but the instructions are very hard to understand. I can't be the only one wondering this or wanting this? Any ideas guys?
I too would love the ability to dual boot, whether it be dual-nand, or WP7 as an SD build (and Android NAND).
Any chance of this happening, devs?
Right now u can dual boot Android NAND and Android SD.
Windows 7 NAND and Android SD but this is too complex. u need to make two partitions on the SD card.
I too would like to still run wm 6.5 as my main os and boot WM7 and Android from my Sd cards. I would also like to know if this is possible.
Is it possible to boot a SD android version via magldr?
Mine freezes if I choose Boot Android SD :/
Using 1.12
kelvin_swe said:
Right now u can dual boot Android NAND and Android SD.
Windows 7 NAND and Android SD but this is too complex. u need to make two partitions on the SD card.
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I would love to try "Windows 7 NAND and Android SD" even If it is complex. Do have a detailed instruction on how to do this, or know where I can find one?
Thanks.
i think in the future u should be able to dual boot both from nand if u have the 1024leo because the windows phone 7 rom only uses half of the nand
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I would love to try "Windows 7 NAND and Android SD" even If it is complex. Do have a detailed instruction on how to do this, or know where I can find one?
Thanks.
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darrengladysz wrote a good tutorial explaining that. here is the link to that thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
Someway of dual booting wm 6.5 and wp7 would be awesome.
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Someway of dual booting wm 6.5 and wp7 would be awesome.
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Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Is WP7 only available on NAND?
Hey...
Yeah, darren wrote an excellent tutorial, it`s pretty simple to dual boot with that (the partitioning only takes loooooooong)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
I will add the link to a tutorial I made afterwards which includes his tutorial and adds the instruction how to boot Core Droid HD 0.4 as an option for an android build to actually dual boot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10689007&postcount=1106
I used this build (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801607) for over a month and all I can say is that this is the best Desire HD Sense build I've tried!!! (fast and stable)
So enjoy WP7 Nand and Android SD TOGETHER!!!
Greetz
Dom
masondoctorjt said:
I too would like to still run wm 6.5 as my main os and boot WM7 and Android from my Sd cards. I would also like to know if this is possible.
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thats exactly what i want too, does anyone know if this would be possible?
Dual boot from NAND only
Well, just the question I wanted to ask (OP, not the hijacking posts):
WM 6.5 (or WP7) NAND partition 1, Android partition 2.
At least that's the idea. Two OS's from the faster NAND memory, rather than the slower SD. Only applicable, of course, to the 1024MB version of the HD2. I know this is difficult, but if the chinese are doing it, why can't we ? This would just make this phone more awesome than it already is.
Can anyone answer if this is possible or not, and if not, why?
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Well, just the question I wanted to ask (OP, not the hijacking posts):
WM 6.5 (or WP7) NAND partition 1, Android partition 2.
At least that's the idea. Two OS's from the faster NAND memory, rather than the slower SD. Only applicable, of course, to the 1024MB version of the HD2. I know this is difficult, but if the chinese are doing it, why can't we ? This would just make this phone more awesome than it already is.
Can anyone answer if this is possible or not, and if not, why?
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What chinese are doing it? I've never seen 2 OS's both on nand on a phone anywhere... even those cheap chinese fakes that claim to run both wm and android are just running android off the sd.
I, too, hope one day someone makes this possible... but not sure if it will happen or possible yet.
Also, HD2 NAND is not faster than a good quality SD in most cases. You might get a little better random access speed from nand, but if you find a good sd, even that is probably about equal. Even WP7 is now using SD cards as internal memory, now, but you need a good SD card that matches the NAND speed for it to work right. SD Android builds run at the same speed as NAND builds in most cases, but most SD builds aren't updated like NAND builds are.
But anyways, I agree that I would like to see 2 OS's from NAND on our phones.
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I would love to try "Windows 7 NAND and Android SD" even If it is complex. Do have a detailed instruction on how to do this, or know where I can find one?
Thanks.
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I have a nice tutorial on how to do this. You have to be careful to choose the right SD Android Builds which you can use. There are only a few which are compatibe with SD Magldr. In my thread there are some of the more popular ones which has been converted to work with more coming shortly.
When Nand first came out there were a tutorial which I came across to convert SD Builds into Nand so in theory reversing the process you might be able to convert Nand back to SD and convert that to work with Magldr. It is something I have been wanting to look into for a few weeks now so I might just make it a priority of mine cause any build to dual boot with WP7 would be pretty awesome.
I think its possible, but its difficult because Windows properity OS may conflict with Androids OS so someone would have to configure it so that they both won't conflict with each other.
Thanks for the participation! That chinese bit was mostly to just stir the pot a bit .
Hi
I updated my HD2 with DFT WP7 7004 and all is good. BUT I keep seeing the reference to 'NAND' what is NAND anyone please??
Thanks
Amedeus
Amedeus said:
Hi
I updated my HD2 with DFT WP7 7004 and all is good. BUT I keep seeing the reference to 'NAND' what is NAND anyone please??
Thanks
Amedeus
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http://tinyurl.com/cstpyt
NAND is basically the flash memory chip stored on your phones board, ie where the standard native OS is stored and booted from.
You can boot Android from NAND or SD, whereas WP7 needs to be booted from NAND.
Thank you for that
So basically I have flashed my NAND when I updated from WM6.5 to WP7 correct?
Yes.
Sorry under 8 posts I can't post links, so go to Wikipedia -> Flash Memory -> NAND-Flash for a detailed technical description.
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Thank you for that
So basically I have flashed my NAND when I updated from WM6.5 to WP7 correct?
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Yes, Your OS is stored and booted from NAND. Only time it isnt is in the SD builds, In these cases its stored on your SD card and you use your windows mobile to boot a program which in turn reboots your phone into a different kernel.
is it possible to have WM 6.5 in ROM memory and Android with WP7 on SD?
or any combination to have WM, WP7 and android on one HD2 and one or two SD cards?
no, not possible atm.
so what combinations are possible?
1 WM in ROM
2 WM in ROM and Android on SD
3 Android nand
4 WP7 in ROM
5 WP7 in ROM and Android on SD
6 ?
did I miss something?
belek1979 said:
so what combinations are possible?
1 WM in ROM
2 WM in ROM and Android on SD
3 Android nand
4 WP7 in ROM
5 WP7 in ROM and Android on SD
6 ?
did I miss something?
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Yeap you got the major ones covered, unless you are interested in Meego or Ubuntu.
is it possible to choose android or WP7 on boot? years ago I did multiple choice in autoexec.bat (msdos etc..)
belek1979 said:
is it possible to choose android or WP7 on boot? years ago I did multiple choice in autoexec.bat (msdos etc..)
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If you are using the same SD card for WP7 and Android yes you can choosecat bootup but you have to boot into MAGLDR and then boot either Android or WP7. To boot Android you select option #2 Boot AD SD. To boot WP7 while in MAGLDR you select option #1 Boot WPH.
Multi OS xD
waiting...
im waiting for the day when i can run android on nand, then boot wp7 as a secondary OS since so far im not convinced that it's worth using as my primary just yet. also....having the option of ubuntu works fine too.
to be honest, if the development on ubuntu increases, i'd like to run that as nand and have the others as secondaries
Is it possible? I could only find threads about 6.5 from nand and android from sd, but i was thinking it should be possible to fit both to nand, and then use data2sd to send android apps and data to sd card, and install all wm apps to the sd card as well.
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Is it possible? I could only find threads about 6.5 from nand and android from sd, but i was thinking it should be possible to fit both to nand, and then use data2sd to send android apps and data to sd card, and install all wm apps to the sd card as well.
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Yes you can dual boot WP7 and Android, but on WP7 can be inn NAND. You have to run Android from SD card. This is the only way you can dual boot both OS's. Also you can not use apps to SD with WP7 like you can with Android. For one thing WP7 does not support removable storage at all, and two WP7 actually uses the SD card in the HD2 for the internal storage.
i know i can run wp7 and android -___- i am talking about running windows mobile 6.5 and android, both on nand, you must have misread my post
award982 said:
i know i can run wp7 and android -___- i am talking about running windows mobile 6.5 and android, both on nand, you must have misread my post
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Sorry about that I did miss read it, actually when I read it last night your thread was right under a thread asking about dual booting WP7 and Android plus I had been up all night working on a bootanimation, must have been seeing double lol.....
Anyway though the answer is still the same pretty much. You can run Win Mo from NAND and boot Android from SD card. You can either do it the old fashion way by using the file explorer to open CLCAD and HARET, or you can install a dual boot app in Win Mo to do it with just. Do some googl searching and you will find several apps for this. Just so you know though you can only boot one OS from NAND no matter what OS that is.