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Samsung is Introducing its TouchWiz 4.0 UI to Honeycomb, nothing Really Interesting you will think, but watch this:
2 Interesting Points here:
1:36 - Scrollable Settings Menu with more Toggles - Do Want.
3:00 - "Mini Apps" as Apps you can Toggle over any other App - This is actually a Cool step to Multi-Window Multitasking and i think its Extremely Useful
The rest of the Video is Garbage, but these two Things - I really hope our Modders will port this to our Xooms or it will be introduced as a Honeycomb 3.2 or later Feature.
What do you think?
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Kevterminator said:
Samsung is Introducing its TouchWiz 4.0 UI to Honeycomb, nothing Really Interesting you will think, but watch this:
2 Interesting Points here:
1:36 - Scrollable Settings Menu with more Toggles - Do Want.
3:00 - "Mini Apps" as Apps you can Toggle over any other App - This is actually a Cool step to Multi-Window Multitasking and i think its Extremely Useful
The rest of the Video is Garbage, but these two Things - I really hope our Modders will port this to our Xooms or it will be introduced as a Honeycomb 3.2 or later Feature.
What do you think?
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The mini apps does look cool but I have a feeling there will not be any widespread development support for it. We will have to wait and see.
They have some nice ideas in there but they really made the OS look "cartoonish". I wish they would leave the stock look and just add the extra features. That video was obviously sped up in some shots. The OS is fast but things like flash on a website don't play as smooth as the video showed. Overall the Galaxy guys are getting some features that may make us Xoom users a little jealous.
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touchwiz ux has already been ported to the iconia and the transformer....... maybe a xoom port is neccesary? Might have to giver a go and see if I can force it to play nice with our xoom's
Seems much smoother than the Xoom interface.... Samsung are really putting effort into UI development, I'll give em that!
the 'mini-apps' can be done kind of similarly using an app called Wave Launcher. But there are issues with having the 'gesture' from the bottom of the screen. When I had it installed on the xoom.. it effectively rendered the center bottom of the screen useless. The wave launcher was hogging that area looking for input to start the mini app launcher and so any app that have buttons in the center bottom (like MoboPlayer) wouldn't work very well or at all. The app (mobo) worked fine.. but any buttons in the center bottom wouldn't work (wanted to clarify) due to Wave Launcher 'covering' them up.
It took me awhile to figure out it was Wave Launcher doing it... I thought my xoom was broken.
Anyways, just an FYI.
im gonna try and bring tw ux to the xoom, is anybody interested if I post it up here when I'm done?
eliteone said:
im gonna try and bring tw ux to the xoom, is anybody interested if I post it up here when I'm done?
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post it I will try it out
will do, just about to flash my xoom now....... see if i can make a brick
eliteone said:
im gonna try and bring tw ux to the xoom, is anybody interested if I post it up here when I'm done?
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Indeed im interested, please Try
I may be up for testing this if you can get it to boot. Hardware is close enough to the other models that have it ported. Bluetooth and wifi may be an issue.
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ya, its not as simple as first thought, but its booting...... now for wifi, and bluetooth
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ya, its not as simple as first thought, but its booting...... now for wifi, and bluetooth
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Figured wifi and Bluetooth would be a problem. So it boots? Is it smooth or running choppy and is sound working? I didn't expect it to on first boot.
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actually seems smoother than the xoom roms. I ported the full 10.1 rom. Sound works, though I'm on a wifi xoom, so I can't say anything about 3g operability. If and when I get wifi up I'll post it for people to try out.
OK, I will flash it as soon as you release it...
or you could share your work with the tiamat team, that would be even more awesome.
I'm on wifi only as well shoot me a link in a pm and I will take a stab at getting wifi going. Two heads are better than one lol.
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I am also interested in this as well and would be willing to test. I have a 3g Xoom but could really care less about the 3g radio since I don't use it; I use my Xoom WiFi only.
would definitely try it out!
however i think it would be interesting to have these extra features ported over the Tiamat Rom. are you able to remove these extra features and place them in an existing rom/stock?
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actually seems smoother than the xoom roms. I ported the full 10.1 rom. Sound works, though I'm on a wifi xoom, so I can't say anything about 3g operability. If and when I get wifi up I'll post it for people to try out.
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Can you upload please, you can find some help from alot people here, I dream about it all day
haha, I know its been a while sorry guys..... with 3.2 coming out and other stuff in my real life I haven't had a ton of time to work on it. Still can't get wifi to work, and as an extra kick in the ass now the changes I made are causing a softbrick:-( but there are 2 other guys working on it too. And I'll have most of the day tomorrow to wrestle with this little bit*h and hopefully get her going. And crackmulah, that actually might be a good way if I can't get wifi to work that will be the way I go with it. I'm just trying for a "pure" port if possible
Not sure if anyone has seen this, but it is really really nice. I like the look and feel of it.
Fusion Garage says that the Grid OS was built using Android code, so I was wondering if it could be ported to our TF once it's released. We'd use some features, like the integration with the Grid phone, but that's fine, and since that is also based off of Android, maybe it can be ported to phones as well. I think it'll be a great addition to our trusty TF and just be another reason why our tablet is the best.
Watch it here It's a little laggy in the video, but that's probably a pre-production model..
Ehhh, I'll stick with Android for now.
At least it appears to be better than their last effort.
RojasTKD said:
Ehhh, I'll stick with Android for now.
At least it appears to be better than their last effort.
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I thought it'd be a nice idea. Now that I think about it, this OS would look great for a media center.
it seems like all they did was implement a launcher and apps. dunno why they needed to create a completely new OS to do that.
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Although I would nvr buy a joojoo 2 the grid os seems cool, would be nice if someone made a launcher replacement versus porting the whole thing as it is not based off of honeycomb
read through the entire engadget post. apparently grid is based off of android and can run android apps there is just no access to the android market you have to use the amazon one or sideload them.
"The OS also has Dalvik virtual machine built in, so all of your favorite Android apps will work on the Grid 10 and Grid 4, but there's no access to the Android Market and it doesn't come with Android's normal bunch of Google goodies -- you'll have to go to Amazon or elsewhere for applications. " http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/hands-on-with-fusion-garages-grid-10-tablet-and-grid-4-smartpho/
I just want the half screen multitasking window for the browser..
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Looks good.Based on Android.
Batt seems to be bad.
I don 't trust them, they are creepy.
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read through the entire engadget post. apparently grid is based off of android and can run android apps there is just no access to the android market you have to use the amazon one or sideload them.
"The OS also has Dalvik virtual machine built in, so all of your favorite Android apps will work on the Grid 10 and Grid 4, but there's no access to the Android Market and it doesn't come with Android's normal bunch of Google goodies -- you'll have to go to Amazon or elsewhere for applications. " http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/hands-on-with-fusion-garages-grid-10-tablet-and-grid-4-smartpho/
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That's why I thought it would be a nice OS to port. I'm sure some dev could give it market support like they did on the GTab which doesn't natively have android market.
But sure, if someone could remake/port the launcher to us and the multiscreen browser it'd be nice. I really like the launcher on it. The "clusters" is meh, but the design and way you move around is a nice change.
looks nice and smooth to me. I like it.
And i respect them keeping their chin up and admitting their last disaster.
Fusion Garage
I read somewhere that not only is the Fusion Garge OS built on Android, it is using some sort of java interface as well.
I think the interface is clean and I like the specialty features . . . the volume control, and a few other options . . . I know it isn't much . . . just saying . . . you know?
[Long Winded Question]
I rooted my Fire about a week ago and I am running Go Launcher(w/ Honeycomb and ICS themes) as my default launcher and am using WidgetLocker lockscreen. This sh*t is like a whole new tablet. Once in a while I go look at the Kindle launcher and think how absolutely crappy it is comparatively. I'm very happy. My question is;
Is it really going to be worth the trouble of flashing a new ROM just to get ICS when it's ready? What does it have to offer that Amazon's Gingerbread build in combination with rooting and custom launchers etc. doesn't? Just curious.
1 word.....YES!
Just do a search on new features on ICS.
Once everything gets caught up you will be drooling about ICS. What I'm looking forward to is better support for the expanded space of the Fire, which ICS apps have support for.
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Yess only sound and video isn't working
Hhhmmmm
Might have to try it out when all the bugs are out.
Yes it is worth it. Flashing TWRP isn't much trouble at all. I'd recommend installing CM7 until the ICS rom is at a minimum of a beta stage so you can use your kindle like a full android tablet
It is definitely worth it, I got a Galaxy Nexus on release day with ICS (Android 4.0) and it is a big improvement all around. As soon as it's ready for a everyday use release I will be installing it immediately.
What really intrigues me about ICS is the fact that it was designed with button-less devices in mind. It's going to really be the bee's knees on the Kindle Fire. CM7 does a pretty good job with soft buttons (and the ability to add soft buttons to the long-press power menu, so you can re-enable full-screen support), but it's just going to be that much better with ICS/CM9.
DeerSteak said:
What really intrigues me about ICS is the fact that it was designed with button-less devices in mind. It's going to really be the bee's knees on the Kindle Fire. CM7 does a pretty good job with soft buttons (and the ability to add soft buttons to the long-press power menu, so you can re-enable full-screen support), but it's just going to be that much better with ICS/CM9.
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I'm getting kinda hyped about it, now.
I have CM7 now it is fully functional and stable. Have Kindle, MP3, from Amazon, and found I can watch Prime VOD via browser by setting user agent to Linux desktop.
I have the ICS clock and taskbar from here and it works and looks great. I look at full ICS entry it goes beta.
using Tapatalk on a Kindle Fire w CM7 ROM
How's that VOD in browser working compared to using the Amazon Video app? As smooth? as nice?
In my opinion, yes. CM7 runs so much smoother and faster. The audio / video sync is perfect, or so minimal I cannot detect it. I have synch issues with Netflix still. Amazon VOD takes more steeps to get into the browser and pop it up full screen, but it is worth it to me, just not like the one touch of the stock Fire launcher.
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Yes, I love it on the Kindle Fire. Visual wise, it looks awesome and crisp on it.
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Yeah I agree it looks amazing, the only thing that bothers me about ICS is that its taking so long to get a good usable rom for everyday usage.
Okey, so Cyanogenmod is coming to our wonderful TF and people are hyping about this. I'm just wondering why. So we get an equalizer and themes support, hoopla. And we're minus the Polaris Office which Asus provides as a free extra, which is a long and big minus.
So why install it?
(I'm not a troll, I'm just curious because don't see any reason for all the hype.)
Cyanogenmod is 100% open source. Once Cyanogenmod has a working TF101 build that means that others can build on top of it, and when Asus drops support we can use the cyanogenmod made code to keep our devices up to date. CM roms are also feature rich and offer constant updates. If you're willing to give up (or just pay for) Polaris then you'll see how much smoother AOSP roms are.
Polaris Office. recovery installable .zip is in Tjemes and apps section, its extracted from main ics build.
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Polaris office don't work for me , on ROM CM9 cornerstone.....
That is not the only thing that does not work in cornerstone...
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Polaris office works fine on CM9 non-cornerstone.
for the moment, what do you guys choose ? transformer rom or cyanogen rom ?
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for the moment, what do you guys choose ? transformer rom or cyanogen rom ?
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for now modified stock
maybe in the future cm9 but for now nah
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This question interest me too.
Is someone able to be a bit more specific about what a 'feature rich' CM9 brings beyond what the stock ROM has?
And what do we lose functionally besides the applications Asus has added?
A list of important differences would be very informative.
CM9 includes an entire list of performance tweaks and options such as reboot to recovery, my CM9 on my phone also uses the volume keys when screen is off to skip tracks without having to wake the device and press a button on the screen..just for a small example.
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CM9 includes an entire list of performance tweaks and options such as reboot to recovery, my CM9 on my phone also uses the volume keys when screen is off to skip tracks without having to wake the device and press a button on the screen..just for a small example.
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Several music apps do the same with vol keys
Also reboot options are gonna be added to modified stock at some point just like in honeycomb
I like the stock notification area and settings to i think cm9 should have something similar
I love cyanogenmod use it on my phone all the time its quick and awesome but at the moment i dont see the reason to switch yet on the tf
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i should say, im fairly eager as well to try out CM, but as far as i understand, its not as mature as the stock OS itself. ive read poor support for the camera, wifi and bluetooth, which in its own right is a CM-killer for me. but perhaps that is not the case now?
i love being in control of my phone/tablet and that's why i want to get away from stock roms that are always trying to unroot and lock the phone or tablet, that is not the meaning of open source and Android to me.
anyhow, id love someone knowledgeable on CM to debunk the issues with camera, wifi and bluetooth. id love to know what to expect in terms of stability, play store support and such, so that we could all have a clear understanding of what CM is and what it can do, how it differs, etc.
Thanks in advance,
Im hoping the lack of official support has been due to cm getting new build machines, cm said they,ll be up and running in a few days
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locutus7o9 said:
This question interest me too.
Is someone able to be a bit more specific about what a 'feature rich' CM9 brings beyond what the stock ROM has?
And what do we lose functionally besides the applications Asus has added?
A list of important differences would be very informative.
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Responsive, boot up time is quicker more customization's. For example taking away the names under the apps so its just the app itself.. if we had a built in LED set the LED blink frequency time or intervals and some even change its color and assign it to email, battery ect. Battery life is way long but its very quick. Bounce back affect when you hit the sides,Glow, change window transitions, like have the homescreen change in card stack form, flip, boxed, fade, spin ect or just have a constant home screen switching (no end) just starts over. Change the weight of the transition from light to heavy so it feels like light as a feather or heavy when switching screens. Erasing the Google search bar , change how notifications behave. Change the sound pitch. Hide status bar or the dock screen so its just your wallpaper and apps.. assign swipe animations like sliding your finger up or down you can make the status bar appear or dock dispel. Different lock screens, lock screen gestures.Make the static wallpaper not move with transitions (which gives a speedy feel to everything). Force Live wallpapers to not move with each screen swipe.. it feels like its more stable and less stuttering when using a LWP.That's just a quick list off the top of my head. Plus alot of changes under the hood. They also support theme's depending on the launcher they include.
You can get most of this separate by getting another launcher but its not built into the package. Its not bonded to your transformer. With CM its all there ready to use. Its done very subtle that it looks like it meant for it since its a tweaked version of the ones you can get in the Market. Some people dont like CM since its not as flashy. That's why most get a CM based ROM with added stuff. I love the CM9.. Right now there on there 2nd nightly build. I would wait till they announce an RC version or stable. Currently, dock support is glitchy and its missing features since its there 2nd nightly build. Nighties are like Beta builds. Not a daily driver..
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Im hoping the lack of official support has been due to cm getting new build machines, cm said they,ll be up and running in a few days
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it was.. they released there 2nd nightly build yesterday right after they announced there new servers.
Just for info, this is there 4th nightly, i know it only shows 2 but iv installed at least 4, oh and nice defence cm rocks
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hardy81 said:
Okey, so Cyanogenmod is coming to our wonderful TF and people are hyping about this. I'm just wondering why. So we get an equalizer and themes support, hoopla. And we're minus the Polaris Office which Asus provides as a free extra, which is a long and big minus.
So why install it?
(I'm not a troll, I'm just curious because don't see any reason for all the hype.)
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Development on CM9, Megatron (CM9 based) and AOKP are all done more real time and ongoing than anything from Asus. They provide better stability, can be developed to accept the Asus stock apps, and introduce new features to your tablet. Nearly all of the added features can be purchased apps instead of integrated for free though. I'd rather donate to one dev doing awesome things than have 1000 apps from different mediocre devs. It's less work for you to optimize and get every ounce of ability out of your tablet. Even with the 201, 101 and 300 all being out and pretty much awesome still even through the first two are "aging", we still get better attention. Maybe not all those thoughts go together.
In my opinion though, my tablet runs smoother on Megatron than it did stock. I have Guevor and Ricardopv working hard from each end supporting this tablet in a way that Asus isn't. I use Kingsoft Office Suite (free and full-functioning) with cloud support for office needs. I play my games, Facebook, Twitter and anything else I can think of pretty much with this thing and don't have to worry about the random reboots at all.
To each their own though. If you don't think you need it, that's cool. I probably didn't need it. I wanted it though. When CM hits a device, even AOKP now, it brings out developers that will usually support a device until it is truly dead. Support a dev and try their wares. Donate.
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I saw this on BriefMobile. Looks like we might get some goodness with the ICS upgrade!
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-changes-direction-with-webtop-3-0-software
It's for the Droid Razr, but I would think it would carry over to the Atrix. Or at least I would hope it would.
Thoughts?
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I saw this on BriefMobile. Looks like we might get some goodness with the ICS upgrade!
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-changes-direction-with-webtop-3-0-software
It's for the Droid Razr, but I would think it would carry over to the Atrix. Or at least I would hope it would.
Thoughts?
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This is exactly like what webtop shouldve been all along. As I understand, itll just be a modified tablet view of ICS, right? This would make me stick with Blur ICS if executed correctly. (Unless of course, it was ported over to CM9. Since its not like, booting another OS, maybe thatd be possible this time around.)
Edit: Oh my goodness, Im editing just to emphasis how excited I am, Thank you for this news.
Eeh... i think i'd still have rather seen it able to boot up some form of Ubuntu by default. Webtop is nice... but I think it would be nicer to have a more notebook-friendly OS rather than basically just having a larger screen showing the same exact thing.
nice. very nice. while i'd prefer the new ubuntu android project any day of the week, i'd take this over atrix webtop in a heartbeat
Prefer they give us an option of either.. hopefully we can still get Webtop2SD on it working..
Looks alright to me. If I want to keep using Firefox, I'll just use Firefox on Android rather than the recompiled desktop version that the old Webtop had. This change might make it easier to use some of the Android office suite apps, too...
Very good news, lets just hope it stays this way for the Atrix ICS.
Wow... if stock ICS's motoblur is as toned down as screenshots of the Razr firmware leak make it look, that and the new webtop may be enough incentive to switch away from CM9 for me. Very, very slick!
I don't like Webtop 3.0. I hope this is fake, and probably this is fake cause:
1. it's just ICS with tablet view
2. in Webtopie default browser is Firefox and works allways in desktop mode
3. Webtop own icon, but we can't see Webtop icon on this video
4. Webtop has got different cursor, and we can't see right mouse button action
5. browser on that video is just default tablet browser, it's not Chrome Browser.
A better video
http://youtu.be/4OQB2dUEWOs?hd=1
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I don't like Webtop 3.0. I hope this is fake, and probably this is fake cause:
1. it's just ICS with tablet view
2. in Webtopie default browser is Firefox and works allways in desktop mode
3. Webtop own icon, but we can't see Webtop icon on this video
4. Webtop has got different cursor, and we can't see right mouse button action
5. browser on that video is just default tablet browser, it's not Chrome Browser.
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Definitely not fake.
1. Why would you want to split the user experience into two unintegrated UIs like the old webtop? That was a solution that came about because 4.0 didn't exist until recently.
2. Why would you want an old version of Firefox instead of Chrome?
3. ?
4. ?
5. Look at the video above.
Gaming video (GTA3):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqch26-Jb_4&feature=youtu.be
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Definitely not fake.
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So now, you can see photos from my Atrix with tablet UI connected via HDdock to my TV. It's just ICS with tablet UI.
http://i.imgur.com/u0Uyu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xjHOI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hNxGi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RmMlL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WWw9w.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HnK0v.jpg
here's one using RAZR on Atrix laptop, also running Webtop 3.0. Drooling..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OQB2dUEWOs&feature=relmfu
Personally I liked the gimmicks I've been able to run on the current Webtop under the webtop2sd expanded version of it, though recently Ive been playing with .img boots more and If this new Tablet/Webtop UI their running free's up more ram then Im all for it. Otherwise gonna chill out Until I see Moto with a device that has 2GB ram and a Quad core which wont happen for a bit.
On top of which it will be much harder getting Internet without a teathering plan with a non ubuntu Webtop.
I'm interested in how the update will work will it reformat and re-partition or will it just hijack whats there.
Ovitz, if you really prefer Unbuntu Webtop, get Unbuntu Installer.
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Ovitz, if you really prefer Unbuntu Webtop, get Unbuntu Installer.
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but I dont wanna to run Ubuntu...
BTW, I am official tester, and I've got paid app
the question is why would you want a butchered Ubuntu distro that can't be updated and runs like its using a dell inspiron 8000 as opposed to a modern machine rocking a 1ghz processor and a gig of ram? that old Webtop is awful
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I'm downloading the leak to see if there is a webtop img in it that we can flash...
I would have liked to see them get on board with the 'Ubuntu on Android' development. This is limited as far as im concerned cause you need a touch screen to get the best out of ICS, if the lapdock had gestures on the touchpad that would have helped.
i have mixed feelings on this.
pro's:
1. it is mobile view with upgraded resolution. finally.
2. it runs at full speed. finally.
con's:
1. you are running a touchscreen interface without the ability to multitouch (pinch to zoom)...
that stinks. a desktop interface would be better suited for the laptop dock.
2. what/how is att going to lock this down? before it was blocking firefox data (which can be circumvented) if you are on cell network without a tethering plan. now that everything runs in full resolution...are they just going to block all cell data?
3. what made webtop special was the full desktop browser...and all the extensions that go with it...and all the proxy configurations that go with it (cough cough)...not a mobile browser with upgraded resolution. which would now be gone...
what would have been the best thing to do from a user's standpoint would be the ubuntu on android concept...as has been said...but thatwould cost more $$$ so i dont see it happening for our current phones...