I saw this on BriefMobile. Looks like we might get some goodness with the ICS upgrade!
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-changes-direction-with-webtop-3-0-software
It's for the Droid Razr, but I would think it would carry over to the Atrix. Or at least I would hope it would.
Thoughts?
stewartsoda said:
I saw this on BriefMobile. Looks like we might get some goodness with the ICS upgrade!
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-changes-direction-with-webtop-3-0-software
It's for the Droid Razr, but I would think it would carry over to the Atrix. Or at least I would hope it would.
Thoughts?
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This is exactly like what webtop shouldve been all along. As I understand, itll just be a modified tablet view of ICS, right? This would make me stick with Blur ICS if executed correctly. (Unless of course, it was ported over to CM9. Since its not like, booting another OS, maybe thatd be possible this time around.)
Edit: Oh my goodness, Im editing just to emphasis how excited I am, Thank you for this news.
Eeh... i think i'd still have rather seen it able to boot up some form of Ubuntu by default. Webtop is nice... but I think it would be nicer to have a more notebook-friendly OS rather than basically just having a larger screen showing the same exact thing.
nice. very nice. while i'd prefer the new ubuntu android project any day of the week, i'd take this over atrix webtop in a heartbeat
Prefer they give us an option of either.. hopefully we can still get Webtop2SD on it working..
Looks alright to me. If I want to keep using Firefox, I'll just use Firefox on Android rather than the recompiled desktop version that the old Webtop had. This change might make it easier to use some of the Android office suite apps, too...
Very good news, lets just hope it stays this way for the Atrix ICS.
Wow... if stock ICS's motoblur is as toned down as screenshots of the Razr firmware leak make it look, that and the new webtop may be enough incentive to switch away from CM9 for me. Very, very slick!
I don't like Webtop 3.0. I hope this is fake, and probably this is fake cause:
1. it's just ICS with tablet view
2. in Webtopie default browser is Firefox and works allways in desktop mode
3. Webtop own icon, but we can't see Webtop icon on this video
4. Webtop has got different cursor, and we can't see right mouse button action
5. browser on that video is just default tablet browser, it's not Chrome Browser.
A better video
http://youtu.be/4OQB2dUEWOs?hd=1
ovitz said:
I don't like Webtop 3.0. I hope this is fake, and probably this is fake cause:
1. it's just ICS with tablet view
2. in Webtopie default browser is Firefox and works allways in desktop mode
3. Webtop own icon, but we can't see Webtop icon on this video
4. Webtop has got different cursor, and we can't see right mouse button action
5. browser on that video is just default tablet browser, it's not Chrome Browser.
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Definitely not fake.
1. Why would you want to split the user experience into two unintegrated UIs like the old webtop? That was a solution that came about because 4.0 didn't exist until recently.
2. Why would you want an old version of Firefox instead of Chrome?
3. ?
4. ?
5. Look at the video above.
Gaming video (GTA3):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqch26-Jb_4&feature=youtu.be
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Definitely not fake.
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So now, you can see photos from my Atrix with tablet UI connected via HDdock to my TV. It's just ICS with tablet UI.
http://i.imgur.com/u0Uyu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xjHOI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hNxGi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RmMlL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WWw9w.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HnK0v.jpg
here's one using RAZR on Atrix laptop, also running Webtop 3.0. Drooling..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OQB2dUEWOs&feature=relmfu
Personally I liked the gimmicks I've been able to run on the current Webtop under the webtop2sd expanded version of it, though recently Ive been playing with .img boots more and If this new Tablet/Webtop UI their running free's up more ram then Im all for it. Otherwise gonna chill out Until I see Moto with a device that has 2GB ram and a Quad core which wont happen for a bit.
On top of which it will be much harder getting Internet without a teathering plan with a non ubuntu Webtop.
I'm interested in how the update will work will it reformat and re-partition or will it just hijack whats there.
Ovitz, if you really prefer Unbuntu Webtop, get Unbuntu Installer.
nerfman100 said:
Ovitz, if you really prefer Unbuntu Webtop, get Unbuntu Installer.
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but I dont wanna to run Ubuntu...
BTW, I am official tester, and I've got paid app
the question is why would you want a butchered Ubuntu distro that can't be updated and runs like its using a dell inspiron 8000 as opposed to a modern machine rocking a 1ghz processor and a gig of ram? that old Webtop is awful
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I'm downloading the leak to see if there is a webtop img in it that we can flash...
I would have liked to see them get on board with the 'Ubuntu on Android' development. This is limited as far as im concerned cause you need a touch screen to get the best out of ICS, if the lapdock had gestures on the touchpad that would have helped.
i have mixed feelings on this.
pro's:
1. it is mobile view with upgraded resolution. finally.
2. it runs at full speed. finally.
con's:
1. you are running a touchscreen interface without the ability to multitouch (pinch to zoom)...
that stinks. a desktop interface would be better suited for the laptop dock.
2. what/how is att going to lock this down? before it was blocking firefox data (which can be circumvented) if you are on cell network without a tethering plan. now that everything runs in full resolution...are they just going to block all cell data?
3. what made webtop special was the full desktop browser...and all the extensions that go with it...and all the proxy configurations that go with it (cough cough)...not a mobile browser with upgraded resolution. which would now be gone...
what would have been the best thing to do from a user's standpoint would be the ubuntu on android concept...as has been said...but thatwould cost more $$$ so i dont see it happening for our current phones...
Related
Not sure if anyone has seen this, but it is really really nice. I like the look and feel of it.
Fusion Garage says that the Grid OS was built using Android code, so I was wondering if it could be ported to our TF once it's released. We'd use some features, like the integration with the Grid phone, but that's fine, and since that is also based off of Android, maybe it can be ported to phones as well. I think it'll be a great addition to our trusty TF and just be another reason why our tablet is the best.
Watch it here It's a little laggy in the video, but that's probably a pre-production model..
Ehhh, I'll stick with Android for now.
At least it appears to be better than their last effort.
RojasTKD said:
Ehhh, I'll stick with Android for now.
At least it appears to be better than their last effort.
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I thought it'd be a nice idea. Now that I think about it, this OS would look great for a media center.
it seems like all they did was implement a launcher and apps. dunno why they needed to create a completely new OS to do that.
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Although I would nvr buy a joojoo 2 the grid os seems cool, would be nice if someone made a launcher replacement versus porting the whole thing as it is not based off of honeycomb
read through the entire engadget post. apparently grid is based off of android and can run android apps there is just no access to the android market you have to use the amazon one or sideload them.
"The OS also has Dalvik virtual machine built in, so all of your favorite Android apps will work on the Grid 10 and Grid 4, but there's no access to the Android Market and it doesn't come with Android's normal bunch of Google goodies -- you'll have to go to Amazon or elsewhere for applications. " http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/hands-on-with-fusion-garages-grid-10-tablet-and-grid-4-smartpho/
I just want the half screen multitasking window for the browser..
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Looks good.Based on Android.
Batt seems to be bad.
I don 't trust them, they are creepy.
mrevankyle said:
read through the entire engadget post. apparently grid is based off of android and can run android apps there is just no access to the android market you have to use the amazon one or sideload them.
"The OS also has Dalvik virtual machine built in, so all of your favorite Android apps will work on the Grid 10 and Grid 4, but there's no access to the Android Market and it doesn't come with Android's normal bunch of Google goodies -- you'll have to go to Amazon or elsewhere for applications. " http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/hands-on-with-fusion-garages-grid-10-tablet-and-grid-4-smartpho/
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That's why I thought it would be a nice OS to port. I'm sure some dev could give it market support like they did on the GTab which doesn't natively have android market.
But sure, if someone could remake/port the launcher to us and the multiscreen browser it'd be nice. I really like the launcher on it. The "clusters" is meh, but the design and way you move around is a nice change.
looks nice and smooth to me. I like it.
And i respect them keeping their chin up and admitting their last disaster.
Fusion Garage
I read somewhere that not only is the Fusion Garge OS built on Android, it is using some sort of java interface as well.
I think the interface is clean and I like the specialty features . . . the volume control, and a few other options . . . I know it isn't much . . . just saying . . . you know?
Basically what the title has said. I'm looking for a rom that has stock honeycomb on it. I'm not really a fan of touchwiz never really was. I know that I could of search for it. I got distracted about reading about the Newton rings. Apparently there on my tablet. If someone can help me I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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But without touchwiz you will lose important hardware features of the tablet. Stock honeycomb is a highly incomplete OS and touchwiz fills in many of the gaps.
5thElement said:
But without touchwiz you will lose important hardware features of the tablet. Stock honeycomb is a highly incomplete OS and touchwiz fills in many of the gaps.
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So basically there's no hope in me getting a non honeycomb rom?
Alopez_45 said:
So basically there's no hope in me getting a non honeycomb rom?
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I assume you're rooted. Maybe if someone had a nandroid of the virgin HC rom for you to download?
BTW, I assume you mean "non-TouchWiz"
Alopez_45 said:
Basically what the title has said. I'm looking for a rom that has stock honeycomb on it. I'm not really a fan of touchwiz never really was. I know that I could of search for it. I got distracted about reading about the Newton rings. Apparently there on my tablet. If someone can help me I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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There is a sticky bigger than me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171089
It helps if you visit the dev forum...
Phantom Hacker is working on a vanilla 3.2 port as we speak
Sent from your mothers house.
5thElement said:
But without touchwiz you will lose important hardware features of the tablet. Stock honeycomb is a highly incomplete OS and touchwiz fills in many of the gaps.
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Like what exactly? That doesn't even make sense.. Are you forgetting the 10.1 shipped with stock 3.1?
PhantomHacker said:
Like what exactly? That doesn't even make sense.. Are you forgetting the 10.1 shipped with stock 3.1?
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Don't bother PH, you don't know what you are getting into.
5thElement said:
But without touchwiz you will lose important hardware features of the tablet. Stock honeycomb is a highly incomplete OS and touchwiz fills in many of the gaps.
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I would also like to know what exactly Touchwiz adds (besides cartoonish icons, widgets and a few new bugs that vanilla HC didn't have)?
BTW I know what i'm getting into
Alopez_45 said:
Basically what the title has said. I'm looking for a rom that has stock honeycomb on it. I'm not really a fan of touchwiz never really was. I know that I could of search for it. I got distracted about reading about the Newton rings. Apparently there on my tablet. If someone can help me I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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I run the Blazar non-TW ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200387&highlight=blazar
Not a single problem, and managed to watch video for pretty much all of a 10.5 hour flight the other week.
poisike said:
I would also like to know what exactly Touchwiz adds (besides cartoonish icons, widgets and a few new bugs that vanilla HC didn't have)?
BTW I know what i'm getting into
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You get the all important screenshot button right next to the most used button on the status bar, so whenever you accidentally hit it instead of the button you wanted you get a pointless image added to your gallery.
Tee Hee that made me laugh.
I am disappointed at the lack of dev activity though. I too prefer AOSP to TW and was hoping for a huge dev scene.
Im honestly amazed at how little education people here have about TouchWiz.
TouchWiz is by far the most advanced software you currently can get on a tablet. The user experience it provides is light years ahead of anything else out there, even Honeycomb 3.2.
Not only that but TouchWiz gives you access to specific hardware you cant access without it. The ability to change color temperature of the screen is a HUGE feature you can only have with toucwiz.
Here are just a few of the features you get from TouchWiz that you cant get anywhere else :
1. REAL multitasking just like in Windows. You can have TWO apps open at once on the same screen and not have to switch back and forth. There is nothing like this available in the market or in 3.2. HUGE props to Samsung for doing this.
2. Ability to change color temperature of the screen.
3. One touch wifi file access to tablet from PC <-- AWESOME
4. Sluggish menu scrolling in vanilla Honeycomb are gone! It looks like
Samsung devs used video hardware acceleration for scrolling which creates a smooth experience compared to Vanilla honeycombs laggy jumpy scrolling in may menus.
5. Awesomenew notification/settings popup menu. FAR superior to stock Honeycomb.
6. One touch screen capture button in the task bar takes a snap shot of the screen and automatically saves to a folder.
7. Lots of cool QUALITY widgets not like the junk you find in the market.
8. Motion gestures
9. Superior App Manager/ RAM manager which can run ON TOP of any app you are running.
10. BEST Music app and runs super smooth. Much better than stock H.C. or anything in the market
11. BEST Ebook reader app you can get.
12. Your tablet will run FASTEST with touchwiz. Samsung is using hardware acceleration for menus like Apple. Stock HC uses software rendering which is why its so slow and laggy. You cant get hardware acceleration if you dont have TouchWiz. No the Devs here will not be able to add it as its beyond their capabilities.
The list goes on and on. TouchWiz is simply a superior experience than stock HC. I would even dream of using my tab without it. Your tablet is incomplete and missing features to access hardware if you dont have TouchWiz.
Really? I guess it's a personal thing then. I used TW for a week before deciding I COULD do without out LOL.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought TW was JUST a GUI and nothing else! It shouldn't offer superior app management and ram management... and as for the apps you mention, well we all have choices via the android market.
5thElement said:
Im honestly amazed at how little education people here have about TouchWiz.
TouchWiz is by far the most advanced software you currently can get on a tablet. The user experience it provides is light years ahead of anything else out there, even Honeycomb 3.2.
Not only that but TouchWiz gives you access to specific hardware you cant access without it. The ability to change color temperature of the screen is a HUGE feature you can only have with toucwiz.
Here are just a few of the features you get from TouchWiz that you cant get anywhere else :
1. REAL multitasking just like in Windows. You can have TWO apps open at once on the same screen and not have to switch back and forth. There is nothing like this available in the market or in 3.2. HUGE props to Samsung for doing this.
2. Ability to change color temperature of the screen.
3. One touch wifi file access to tablet from PC <-- AWESOME
4. Sluggish menu scrolling in vanilla Honeycomb are gone! It looks like
Samsung devs used video hardware acceleration for scrolling which creates a smooth experience compared to Vanilla honeycombs laggy jumpy scrolling in may menus.
5. Awesomenew notification/settings popup menu. FAR superior to stock Honeycomb.
6. One touch screen capture button in the task bar takes a snap shot of the screen and automatically saves to a folder.
7. Lots of cool QUALITY widgets not like the junk you find in the market.
8. Motion gestures
9. Superior App Manager/ RAM manager which can run ON TOP of any app you are running.
10. BEST Music app and runs super smooth. Much better than stock H.C. or anything in the market
11. BEST Ebook reader app you can get.
12. Your tablet will run FASTEST with touchwiz. Samsung is using hardware acceleration for menus like Apple. Stock HC uses software rendering which is why its so slow and laggy. You cant get hardware acceleration if you dont have TouchWiz. No the Devs here will not be able to add it as its beyond their capabilities.
The list goes on and on. TouchWiz is simply a superior experience than stock HC. I would even dream of using my tab without it. Your tablet is incomplete and missing features to access hardware if you dont have TouchWiz.
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1. 6 predefined apps, you call this REAL multitasking!? I have no use for these apps, except maybe calculator that i have used once.
2. I have no need for that. And i think there are apps in Market that can do this?
3. How? Has this something to do with that thing called Kies? I refuse to use this ****.
4. The menu scrolling has never been sluggish on my Xoom, so i don't know what you are talking about.
5. Awesomenew notification/settings popup menu? Yeah, design is little different.
6. I have accidentally used that screen capture button a few times, other then that i have no use for this. There are lot of apps in Market that can make screenshots.
7. I really tried to use those "cool QUALITY widgets" just to give Samsung and Touchwiz a fair chance. I couldn't stand them for longer then a week. Then i downloaded the same widgets i used on my Xoom.
8. Motion gestures... yes, this feature bugged me also until i chose "never ask again".
9. I have never used or needed a App Manager/ RAM manager on Xoom. Why would i want to use this on GT10.1?
10. I must admit, i have never tried the BEST Music app. I use Google Music.
11. I have never used the BEST Ebook reader app either, so i can't comment on this.
12. Your tablet will run FASTEST with touchwiz? Maybe my GT10.1 has a hardware problem, but i don't see that it runs faster then my Xoom.
So i don't really see what touchwiz added, besides that gray bottom bar, which really bothers me the most. If i could get a vanilla 3.2 ROM, i would be very happy.
Of course this is my personal opinion and i'm not saying that GT10.1 isn't a good tablet.
poisike said:
So i don't really see what touchwiz added, besides that gray bottom bar, which really bothers me the most. If i could get a vanilla 3.2 ROM, i would be very happy.
Of course this is my personal opinion and i'm not saying that GT10.1 isn't a good tablet.
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It is recommended to read the white papers on TouchWiz to understand why its so important if you have a Tab 10. Lag of hardware acceleration without it is one feature alone that should have everyone on board with TouchWiz. Not only that but samsung is releasing an api to allow you to add any app into the mini launch bar.
steve664npc said:
Really? I guess it's a personal thing then. I used TW for a week before deciding I COULD do without out LOL.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought TW was JUST a GUI and nothing else! It shouldn't offer superior app management and ram management... and as for the apps you mention, well we all have choices via the android market.
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Can you do without touchwiz? Sure if you only use your unit to check email and view a webpage but then why did you buy a tab 10? Also you are wrong on many account...
There are no apps in the android market that will give you true multitasking like touchwiz.
There are no apps in the market that will allow you to change the color temps of the screen.
There are no apps that will allow you to obtain a superior notification menu
There are no apps in the market that will allow you to add hardware acceleration to the GUI.
There are no apps in the market that will allow you to do a at LEAST a dozen more important Tab 10 related features.
5thElement said:
Not only that but samsung is releasing an api to allow you to add any app into the mini launch bar.
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That would be great, but I would like to see proof of this statement.
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5thElement said:
Im honestly amazed at how little education people here have about TouchWiz.
TouchWiz is by far the most advanced software you currently can get on a tablet. The user experience it provides is light years ahead of anything else out there, even Honeycomb 3.2.
Not only that but TouchWiz gives you access to specific hardware you cant access without it. The ability to change color temperature of the screen is a HUGE feature you can only have with toucwiz.
Here are just a few of the features you get from TouchWiz that you cant get anywhere else :
1. REAL multitasking just like in Windows. You can have TWO apps open at once on the same screen and not have to switch back and forth. There is nothing like this available in the market or in 3.2. HUGE props to Samsung for doing this.
2. Ability to change color temperature of the screen.
3. One touch wifi file access to tablet from PC <-- AWESOME
4. Sluggish menu scrolling in vanilla Honeycomb are gone! It looks like
Samsung devs used video hardware acceleration for scrolling which creates a smooth experience compared to Vanilla honeycombs laggy jumpy scrolling in may menus.
5. Awesomenew notification/settings popup menu. FAR superior to stock Honeycomb.
6. One touch screen capture button in the task bar takes a snap shot of the screen and automatically saves to a folder.
7. Lots of cool QUALITY widgets not like the junk you find in the market.
8. Motion gestures
9. Superior App Manager/ RAM manager which can run ON TOP of any app you are running.
10. BEST Music app and runs super smooth. Much better than stock H.C. or anything in the market
11. BEST Ebook reader app you can get.
12. Your tablet will run FASTEST with touchwiz. Samsung is using hardware acceleration for menus like Apple. Stock HC uses software rendering which is why its so slow and laggy. You cant get hardware acceleration if you dont have TouchWiz. No the Devs here will not be able to add it as its beyond their capabilities.
The list goes on and on. TouchWiz is simply a superior experience than stock HC. I would even dream of using my tab without it. Your tablet is incomplete and missing features to access hardware if you dont have TouchWiz.
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Do you work for Samsung, or did you grow up at a time when they still used lead paint on childrens' toys?
5thElement said:
Im honestly amazed at how little education people here have about TouchWiz.
TouchWiz is by far the most advanced software you currently can get on a tablet. The user experience it provides is light years ahead of anything else out there, even Honeycomb 3.2.
Not only that but TouchWiz gives you access to specific hardware you cant access without it. The ability to change color temperature of the screen is a HUGE feature you can only have with toucwiz.
Here are just a few of the features you get from TouchWiz that you cant get anywhere else :
1. REAL multitasking just like in Windows. You can have TWO apps open at once on the same screen and not have to switch back and forth. There is nothing like this available in the market or in 3.2. HUGE props to Samsung for doing this.
2. Ability to change color temperature of the screen.
3. One touch wifi file access to tablet from PC <-- AWESOME
4. Sluggish menu scrolling in vanilla Honeycomb are gone! It looks like
Samsung devs used video hardware acceleration for scrolling which creates a smooth experience compared to Vanilla honeycombs laggy jumpy scrolling in may menus.
5. Awesomenew notification/settings popup menu. FAR superior to stock Honeycomb.
6. One touch screen capture button in the task bar takes a snap shot of the screen and automatically saves to a folder.
7. Lots of cool QUALITY widgets not like the junk you find in the market.
8. Motion gestures
9. Superior App Manager/ RAM manager which can run ON TOP of any app you are running.
10. BEST Music app and runs super smooth. Much better than stock H.C. or anything in the market
11. BEST Ebook reader app you can get.
12. Your tablet will run FASTEST with touchwiz. Samsung is using hardware acceleration for menus like Apple. Stock HC uses software rendering which is why its so slow and laggy. You cant get hardware acceleration if you dont have TouchWiz. No the Devs here will not be able to add it as its beyond their capabilities.
The list goes on and on. TouchWiz is simply a superior experience than stock HC. I would even dream of using my tab without it. Your tablet is incomplete and missing features to access hardware if you dont have TouchWiz.
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Yeah, I'm sorry, but TW doesn't improve my experience.
As a matter of fact, TW seems to have been designed by Samsung to lock users in to their proprietary ecosystem. Unfortunately, I do not believe software development--on the scale that Apple and Google, and allegedly Amazon is building out--is a part of their core competency. I am not sure Samsung has what it takes to build an ecosystem that provides the user experience on the level that Google already provides--so I do not want Samsung's Social Widgets, Music Hub, or whatever other service they are trying to push on me.
The only reason I purchased the Galaxt Tab 10.1 is because of the superior hardware design and quality with respects to other Android Tablet manufacturers, and quite frankly, their TW software just gets in the way. I really dislike having their proprietary software forced down my throat.
If their interface and software bundle is so great, why doesn't Samsung let users choose to install their software via the market or some other option?
--my two cents.
hey guys,
I haven't been around our forums much lately so I figured I'd just ask after not having much luck with the search.
is it working yet via webtop2sd and some neat tricks? is it a priority in CM7 development? I picked up a lapdock considering the price range is finally where it should be so I'm preparing to finally setup my system for real with a fully customized webtop experience.
any info is much appreciated
Nope.
(10 char)
D= not even a priority in development? I guess I have to give up all my cool cm7 functions
I know this topic has been beat down to a pulp but I had a thought about this too since I picked up my laptop dock. To me the actual laptop dock is pretty useless, in my opinion. All it was good for was just web browsing. But since hacking the webtop2sd, having a mini linux netbook has really kept me on blur roms for that reason and I keep my pc laptop at work now.
That being said, would it be possible to run just linux off the ext-sd card or even through one of the usb ports on the laptop dock and still run cm7 or miui?
Landscape hdmi mirroring is in the works, so it's a possibility that the lapdock can be used with cm7. As for actual webtop, it's still a very small chance that non blur roms will see it.
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IUH1991 said:
Landscape hdmi mirroring is in the works, so it's a possibility that the lapdock can be used with cm7. As for actual webtop, it's still a very small chance that non blur roms will see it.
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that actually sounds like it would be more useful that a webtop install. and probably run faster. i really just want gedit + firefox for coding webpages. i couldn't imaging trying to design a web site using a virtual keyboard. some key combo like alt + tab to show recent tasks would make it pretty usable
[Long Winded Question]
I rooted my Fire about a week ago and I am running Go Launcher(w/ Honeycomb and ICS themes) as my default launcher and am using WidgetLocker lockscreen. This sh*t is like a whole new tablet. Once in a while I go look at the Kindle launcher and think how absolutely crappy it is comparatively. I'm very happy. My question is;
Is it really going to be worth the trouble of flashing a new ROM just to get ICS when it's ready? What does it have to offer that Amazon's Gingerbread build in combination with rooting and custom launchers etc. doesn't? Just curious.
1 word.....YES!
Just do a search on new features on ICS.
Once everything gets caught up you will be drooling about ICS. What I'm looking forward to is better support for the expanded space of the Fire, which ICS apps have support for.
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Yess only sound and video isn't working
Hhhmmmm
Might have to try it out when all the bugs are out.
Yes it is worth it. Flashing TWRP isn't much trouble at all. I'd recommend installing CM7 until the ICS rom is at a minimum of a beta stage so you can use your kindle like a full android tablet
It is definitely worth it, I got a Galaxy Nexus on release day with ICS (Android 4.0) and it is a big improvement all around. As soon as it's ready for a everyday use release I will be installing it immediately.
What really intrigues me about ICS is the fact that it was designed with button-less devices in mind. It's going to really be the bee's knees on the Kindle Fire. CM7 does a pretty good job with soft buttons (and the ability to add soft buttons to the long-press power menu, so you can re-enable full-screen support), but it's just going to be that much better with ICS/CM9.
DeerSteak said:
What really intrigues me about ICS is the fact that it was designed with button-less devices in mind. It's going to really be the bee's knees on the Kindle Fire. CM7 does a pretty good job with soft buttons (and the ability to add soft buttons to the long-press power menu, so you can re-enable full-screen support), but it's just going to be that much better with ICS/CM9.
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I'm getting kinda hyped about it, now.
I have CM7 now it is fully functional and stable. Have Kindle, MP3, from Amazon, and found I can watch Prime VOD via browser by setting user agent to Linux desktop.
I have the ICS clock and taskbar from here and it works and looks great. I look at full ICS entry it goes beta.
using Tapatalk on a Kindle Fire w CM7 ROM
How's that VOD in browser working compared to using the Amazon Video app? As smooth? as nice?
In my opinion, yes. CM7 runs so much smoother and faster. The audio / video sync is perfect, or so minimal I cannot detect it. I have synch issues with Netflix still. Amazon VOD takes more steeps to get into the browser and pop it up full screen, but it is worth it to me, just not like the one touch of the stock Fire launcher.
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Yes, I love it on the Kindle Fire. Visual wise, it looks awesome and crisp on it.
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Yeah I agree it looks amazing, the only thing that bothers me about ICS is that its taking so long to get a good usable rom for everyday usage.
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
Other than face unlock, for which I have absolutely no use for, whats missing?
+ Beats HC and the former ICS/JB custom ROMS by a mile.
+ Runs great, especially the browser.
+ Looks good, but I like stock JB better, nothing to bad though.
too big font, too bright color, ugly locking screen, lost about 200MB RAM.
All other things are great.
Its touchwiz again. I think it looks horrible and i hope cm10 will get the camera drivers soon.
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As far as performance is concerned it is great, a big step forward compared to previous ROMs or other custom firmware. Unfortunately, it is bloated with Touchwiz apps which are not necessary since there are Google equivalent apps that do the job perfectly well.
However, the biggest issue for me is the fact that it has no consistent user interface, a problem common to all non-stock Android versions. The Samsung apps have their own Touchwiz user interface while all other apps use the standard ICS user interface elements and colours. Some system elements like the Settings panel and various pop up windows utilise the Touchwiz graphical elements while others the standard ICS elements. Even the arrows that allow the user to select a piece of text look completely different depending on whether one is running a Samsung app or a standard Android one!
In my opinion, it is important for an OS which depends heavily on the user interface, like tablet and phone OSes, to have a common and standard look and feel not only for cosmetic purposes but also to ensure that the users are not confused and all apps look consistent with a specific design philosophy so that users can easily locate menus and other elements. This is the biggest failure of Touchwiz and as a result the overall look and feel of this firmware is strange with bright and colourful user interface elements when Touchwiz is used and dark black and blue elements when running standard Android apps.
Notice here that I am not judging the quality of Touchwiz vs standard ICS and some people prefer the one instead of the other. I am saying that whatever the choice of user inteface it has to be consistent throughout the system and third-party apps. Personally, I prefer the standard ICS user inteface but this is not the point of my argument.
I hope that third-party Android developers will use the updated libraries of this firmware as well as the camera drivers to produce a fully functioning standard ICS or Jelly Bean ROM through projects like CM9/CM10 for the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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Braaank said:
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
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I am one of those who actually MUCH prefer Touchwiz and the other Samsung apps, added settings and personalizations (for example the overlay mini-apps and the now configurable screenshot button are extremely handy and I hate the "2-steps" notification bar in non-TW ROMs) so for me this ROM is GREAT.
I have never been interested in the least in face-unlock, I have always used the pattern lockscreen.
What I would have liked to see in this ROM are the SIM application toolkit, the numbers top row in the keyboard (like in all the recent Samsung keyboards) and the battery percentage.
P.S. that said, if the G.Tab 10.1 isn't going to get an official JB update from Samsung I am sure that at some point, once it matures, I will go back to CM10...
I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
Braaank said:
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
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I'm as happy as a pig in ****, now I might use it for more than a glorified Netflix machine.
That was the thing with the custom ICS/JB roms is that they were so unstable and brought literally nothing to the table besides being someone else's opinion on what they thought I wanted.
I want stability and I want good, official looking apps. Not File Manager HD with its advertising aids and not some bright ass boot animation that blinds me every time I have to reboot because it froze overnight.
But I digress.
I think this release by Samsung is quite amazing, and it will hold me off long enough till I decide to buy a newer model Galaxy Tab.
At the rate Samsung is going they are going to be my new favorite company. Not just because of this update, for numerous other dealings as well.
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I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
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I had that same problem yesterday, no matter which keyboard I tried, I'll probably just use another terminal app.
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The new version is definitely a step ahead. It seems Swype is usable now, although it still lags a bit but at least it can keep up with typing for me not like earlier versions.
I also like it and I guess touchwiz is inevitable. Desktop customization has been upgraded too which is very useful.
If something else could be asked is a tad more smoothness when switching desktops and probably one last push update to jelly bean for increased smoothness.
We'll see in the coming days with extended use. For.me :good:
Am I the only one havin' problems playin' some HD videos in the youtube app? (Factory Reset done after odin flash) My old SGS running ICS is capable of doin' that.
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the ugliness of the Samsung 4.0.4 really disturbs me...
Was Samsung smoking pot in the many months spent on making it on to 10.1?
peraburek said:
I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
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It doesn't work for me too. I can enter numbers and other symbols, but I cannot enter any letters.
Edit: It turned out, that using Swype instead of Samsung keyboard, works great in the Terminal Emulator.
new ics samsung
iI like it, very stable and with best email stock client that I never see.
I really am digging it. My only complaint so far is how close the notification icons are to each other.
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Am I the only one havin' problems playin' some HD videos in the youtube app? (Factory Reset done after odin flash) My old SGS running ICS is capable of doin' that.
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same problem here ...
The only thing that i complain in this new build, is there are some games that aren't working. For example Mass Effect (GooglePlay obviously) it works on CM9, however doesn't on the Samsung rom (both 4.04).
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same problem here ...
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no problems whatsoever here and what "problems" are you two talking about exactly?
P.S. and I watch a lot of Youtube videos on the tab
daniel_fm said:
The new version is definitely a step ahead. It seems Swype is usable now, although it still lags a bit but at least it can keep up with typing for me not like earlier versions.
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Yes!!! This was probably the first thing I checked once the install had finished. I love Swype but it was pretty much unusable in stock HC on the tab. No more automatic deleting of the last two characters when typing a search into the browser!!!
From my perspective it's a it early to give an opinion but it's looking good so far although my quadrant score has taken a nosedive (yes, I know that doesn't mean anytihgn in reality)
Lagging playback on some HD videos.
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