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[Q] What are the odds???

I got a warranty replacement phone today and was wondering what were the odds they will give me crap if I send my previous rooted phone with S-ON back on, in for a warranty exchange. I had them send me another one since the phone would randomly turn off. If I'm not mistaken it did it before I rooted.
I had installed the unofficial T-Mo HTC 2.3 update and i wasn't able to get it back to 2.2.
If this is a problem, anyone know of a fix? I heard if you install the 2.3 u can't go back. I didn't see that until I did it. Or I wouldn't have done it. I don't think 2.3 caused the issues but who knows.

There is a downgrade available now, if you search in the dev section for the guide.
-Nipqer

I have did that once b4 with my cliq and sent it back with leaked 2.1 and nothing happend.and as as long as the software is tmo branded u shoukd be ok cuz even know its leaked it is sstill tmo software

anyone else have some input?

blanthony said:
anyone else have some input?
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It's a crapshoot really, although since you're sending it to tmobile you have slightly better odds, but the fact is if they catch it with s-off then you'll get hit with the out of warranty fee. I hear a lot of people send them to tmobile with s-off with no problems, but there are some that got caught so question is: How lucky do you feel?
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Ya I never heard of anyone ever actually getting charged personally, but I'm sure it does happen.
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Well I guess we shall see. S-On is on so that's a plus.

I sent my G2 in for a warranty replacement (Asurion) and it went S-ON with gingerleak. No issues.

Go for it
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No news is good news I'm assuming! lol

UK official update!!!!

Finally us Brits are getting some official gingerbread yummyness. Although will be tough to change from CM7.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Gingerbread-to-Hit-Motorola-ATRIX-in-the-UK-in-November-228480.shtml
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Happy days! !
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ICS just around the corner and GB is STILL not out!

Hopefully it will come with a new radio which can sort out my random battery drain problems.
Despite trying various radios, my battery seems to lose 3%+ per hour when sleeping so with very light use, a charge only lasts a little over 24 hours. I can only assume the problem is the radio as running Watchdog doesn't indicate that there are any rogue apps. I've tried recalibrating the battery to no end either.
As a matter of interest, which radio are other UK users trying at present? I'm currently on 1.77.30.

coolnow said:
ICS just around the corner and GB is STILL not out!
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Exactly, ICS will be out for AT&T before we even get GB here in the UK. I reckon it could be a while yet as our respective service providers have to add all of their bloatware to it.
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I haven't got a branded atrix so that shouldn't be a problem for me. But I don't know what I'm doing yet. Because if I restore my stock atrix I could potentially lose root and my unlocked bootloader. Meh the decision .....android is a God damn disease.....must have the new update!!!!! Lol
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To be fair Orange dosent appear to have overly bloated it (for a change) Orange Wednesday and an account checker, however seeing as that is available on the market I cant see why it would be an issue, the only other thing I can see is the addition of AP's etc, but again that should all be automatic anyways.......
Orange always claim they need to test it with their network etc but I recon 2 or 3 weeks after it's released we ought to get it *he hopes*

i find it puzzling that the milestone 2 which is older than the atrix is getting the gb update at the same time. Great news for both of our communities. But time and time again...what the hell are Motorola doing with all there time???? lol

I put a question to Motorola via the facebooks, and they said the update will come out at the same time for orange / t-mobile branded phones as it does for unbranded phones.
Of course given the delays to date I suspect the mid-November date will slip, but we shall see

I've got a Tmobile UK Atrix which I've rooted , unlocked the bootloader etc....
Is it possible to get this phone back to a state where it can be upgraded or will I need to wait until somebody does their magic and creates a CWM image to flash?
I'm really unsure how this works as I've seen many warnings about NOT reverting to Froyo if running GB.
Has anyone tried this?

I'll believe it when see it -Moto talk a lot a Kak.
Roll on the Nexus & I can dump the Atrix

SamHanlon said:
I've got a Tmobile UK Atrix which I've rooted , unlocked the bootloader etc....
Is it possible to get this phone back to a state where it can be upgraded or will I need to wait until somebody does their magic and creates a CWM image to flash?
I'm really unsure how this works as I've seen many warnings about NOT reverting to Froyo if running GB.
Has anyone tried this?
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If it's a gingerbread rom flashed through recovery you should be fine. Its just the SBF file to be wary of. If you've flashed a gingerbread SBF don't flash a froyo SBF. or you will get a hard brick.
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Sexywacko said:
I haven't got a branded atrix so that shouldn't be a problem for me. But I don't know what I'm doing yet. Because if I restore my stock atrix I could potentially lose root and my unlocked bootloader. Meh the decision .....android is a God damn disease.....must have the new update!!!!! Lol
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For sure you will loose Root access but you can get it again under Gingerbread.
Regarding the Bootloader I believe that it's a little bit different and I guess when you have unlocked it you can't go back!
If someone more confident can confirm?

Yann_H said:
For sure you will loose Root access but you can get it again under Gingerbread.
Regarding the Bootloader I believe that it's a little bit different and I guess when you have unlocked it you can't go back!
If someone more confident can confirm?
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Yeah probably. But it's not a huge issue rooting and about the bootloader. I wouldnt of thought it would touch it. But knowing Motorola they will screw us over. Lol
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FYI:
Retail update has been released today in the UK, and (if Motorola are to be believed) T-Mobile UK and Orange UK updates will be released within a week.
OTA servers are apparently running behind but updates can be updated using Motorola's Software Update software.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/512793#512793

with luck Orange will have a working copy of "Your Orange" this time too....bloody thing tells me to update then I get "Package not signed" and their CS department are hopeless
Next week is better late than never I suppose

Orange UK update released via Motorola Software Update tool (v45.31.0)
I'm updating now..

Thanks for the heads up - I've just updated my sons Atrix & all went OK.
Seems to run fine on GB 2.3.4 although only tried for an hour or so as it's gone back in the box ready for Xmas

After all of this I have decided to sell my atrix....even bought a play and work kit. But its just not doing it for me. Lol
I appreciate everything all the developers do. But the forums just seem so quiet, even compared to my old desire, that forum is s**t hot still. LOL. It is a shame though as this phone had some amazing potential.
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Sexywacko said:
After all of this I have decided to sell my atrix....even bought a play and work kit. But its just not doing it for me. Lol
I appreciate everything all the developers do. But the forums just seem so quiet, even compared to my old desire, that forum is s**t hot still. LOL. It is a shame though as this phone had some amazing potential.
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I know how you feel. The Atrix forum, I felt, was never the most helpful of places. When I had my htc DHD, that forum was much more helpful.
Anyhow onwards & upwards - My Nexus came the other day so my Atrix is gather dust, probably chuck it in the bin shortly.

Sending back rooted phones

In my time lurking, I've seen multiple people say they sent back rooted phones to T-Mo and it went unnoticed. This made me wonder if they actually checked or not so I just wanted to know your opinions. I'm starting to think that you could probably get away with it if you just flashed a stock Gingerbread rom. I'm starting to find it quite amusing.

hope
I hope not, that way I will be screwed if something happens to the phone, i dont think I even have warranty to begin with.
If Tmobile are clever they most likely to do check it

I had a friend who bricked their G2 using some sort of visionary root and they were able to get a new one via warranty.

I have sent back several rooted phones to various different companies under warranty and got new replacement phones without any hassle every time... touch wood hope that continues...

unroot if you have the time.
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I've send mine back a while ago because the screen became black and wouldn't come up again. Was running Virtuous Unity at that moment but still they repaired the problem and didn't touch my custom ROM.
Maybe if it is a software problem the repair company investigates further what happened to it?

Thijs_W said:
I've send mine back a while ago because the screen became black and wouldn't come up again. Was running Virtuous Unity at that moment but still they repaired the problem and didn't touch my custom ROM.
Maybe if it is a software problem the repair company investigates further what happened to it?
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Possibly, but I figured they would at least check. It's like all bark and no bite really.
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HTC One Developer S-off : Question Answered

I have been looking for an answer on the question whether the Developer edition of the HTC ONE. Some sources said it is some said it is not S-off. So I decided to do some investigation myself. Contacted HTCDev, and got this as a response:
The second question it is answering whether I would be able to flash a T-Mobile radio on the phone...
I thought this might be useful info for all.

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I have been looking for an answer on the question whether the Developer edition of the HTC ONE. Some sources said it is some said it is not S-off. So I decided to do some investigation myself. Contacted HTCDev, and got this as a response:
Dear Balint Pihes,
Thanks for contacting HTC Technical Support Center.
Dear Balint, I am glad to know that you are a member of the HTC family and I will be more than happy to assist you.
Regarding the first question, your HTC One has the S-off. Regarding your second question, at this time we do not have this information yet and the developers are working to provide you with the best service, as so, I will recommend you to stay tuned and check the following webpage, at http://www.htcdev.com/
I am sorry for the inconvenience that this may have caused.
The second question it is answering whether I would be able to flash a T-Mobile radio on the phone...
I thought this might be useful info for all.
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thanks!

Some woman at HTC tweeted last month that the Developer One would not have S-OFF. We will see.

Htcdev twitter said the device is not soff.
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expertzero1 said:
Htcdev twitter said the device is not soff.
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No one will really know until Thursday or Friday

Asked the question again, same site, same question, different answer...guess we will only know next week.
Thank you for your interest in the new HTC One. We can confirm that the device is SIM unlocked and Bootloader unlocked. However, we cannot confirm if the device will have S-Off, as we do not have any detailed information about the device yet. Please keep an eye on HTC.com for updates and announcements about this device. You can also check back with us periodically to see if we have any additional information for you. We are just an email away for more support. In the meantime, I hope you have a great day, Balint!
If this answers your comment or question, please click here to complete the process.
To submit another comment, please click here.
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The HTCDev Team
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this kind of thing makes me wonder what it's like working at a place like HTC. are they really as disjointed as they appear to be?

slackercow said:
this kind of thing makes me wonder what it's like working at a place like HTC. are they really as disjointed as they appear to be?
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Most big companies are.

If HTC makes Dev edition S-OFF, they will wipe all sins they have done over last 2 years in my eyes

I tweeted htc dev and they said no -off.
https://twitter.com/htcdev/status/321021128325869568
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Just got a follow up email from a supervisor, he says the employee was wrong, the device does not have s-off. Apparently he had the developer edition in his hands, when he wrote that.
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It's such bull that they market it as "dev" and leave s-on.
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ECEXCURSION said:
It's such bull that they market it as "dev" and leave s-on.
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I couldn't agree with you more..

so what is the point of purchasing the "developer edition?" other than it being a 64GB device? this is totally effed...

You also get unbranded firmware and update quicker.

It is not designed for developing roms, it is designed for developing programs. Rooting and installing custom roms invalidates the warranty on any HTC one, including the dev edition.
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What is S-off?
stevedebi said:
It is not designed for developing roms, it is designed for developing programs. Rooting and installing custom roms invalidates the warranty on any HTC one, including the dev edition.
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Before I get my head ripped off asking what appears to be a silly question, what is S-off? I gather by your reactions the HTC One I bought on pre-order at the HTC.com website has a security feature that by default is turned on and not off? So what there is another layer of security that must be unlocked to flash custom ROMs? I'm putting my wife into this device given her line of work...medical migrating from Windows Phone 7.8 so forgive me if I am not entirely up to speed on all things Android. Thanks!

berrywr said:
Before I get my head ripped off asking what appears to be a silly question, what is S-off? I gather by your reactions the HTC One I bought on pre-order at the HTC.com website has a security feature that by default is turned on and not off? So what there is another layer of security that must be unlocked to flash custom ROMs? I'm putting my wife into this device given her line of work...medical migrating from Windows Phone 7.8 so forgive me if I am not entirely up to speed on all things Android. Thanks!
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It is not required to flash custom roms. It is required to change certain items in the phone such as the country code. It is turned on by default until someone figures out how to hack the phone.
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berrywr said:
Before I get my head ripped off asking what appears to be a silly question, what is S-off? I gather by your reactions the HTC One I bought on pre-order at the HTC.com website has a security feature that by default is turned on and not off? So what there is another layer of security that must be unlocked to flash custom ROMs? I'm putting my wife into this device given her line of work...medical migrating from Windows Phone 7.8 so forgive me if I am not entirely up to speed on all things Android. Thanks!
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Most people don't need S-Off, it allows you to brick your device, and more importantly to relock it so that HTC don't know you've put custom ROMs on it for warranty purposes.
On the One X it would have been useful to flash updated firmware so that JB ROMs could be installed on carrier phones before the carriers bothered to get round to validating the update, but that's a fairly rare scenario.
It also allows you to flash different radios, but again, it's pretty rare that's required.
So yeah, other than those rare scenarios and AT&T phones who prevent the phone from being bootloader unlocked via htcdev.com, it's not needed if you just want to flash custom ROMs or lie to HTC.

I don't think flashing radios is a rare scenario... I've done it a dozen times on my One XL.
I want s-off to see if we can flash a T-Mobile radio on dev edition to enable all T-Mobile bands.
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S-off proof video fake or real (turkish)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agPzTxJwipw
Is this real ?
Htc one getting s-off
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why do you need s-off? an unlocked HTC One with s-on still behaves like a nexus device. You dont need s-off unless you are modding your own radio images - which no one does.

There is this company which sells it:
http://androidspin.com/2013/05/01/htc-one-s-off-achieved-htc-users-can-now-rejoice-as-well/
IMO this video proves nothing.
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With htc dev accout you viod warranty i think
Thats the only reason i am waiting for soff
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Yeah me too.
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This is not really achieving s-off, not through an exploit but via the official way htc can do it with a clean s58 diag file, no body who has it want to share it, htc forbids it and I think there might be sanctions if you do copy the file (these files might even be watermarked to trace leaks...)
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ranova said:
why do you need s-off? an unlocked HTC One with s-on still behaves like a nexus device. You dont need s-off unless you are modding your own radio images - which no one does.
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so you can debrand and flash newer/older hboots or radio, sometimes android updates require them, on the one i couldn't get jb because i needed a hboot update but none was available for my cid

I wanted the s-off so I can modify my CID.....

It's not real... (Gerçek değil cidden deneyen arkadaşlarım var ama sonuç alamadılar )...
Some friends tried it but not success...

Oh come on.. Do they really want us to believe, when they remove the phone away from the camare for an instant?
siktirsinler

birdcarrie said:
I wanted the s-off so I can modify my CID.....
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Me too. I want an unbranded rom that gets the updates on time, rather than waiting for Telstra BS all the time. :good:

S-OFF - It's a real, but for money! Look at the photo of my HTC One ... After s-off will be superCID - CID11111111

I also own and S-OFF unit, reviewer units are S-OFF out of box
here is a picture of my bootloader

No video unit was soffed using diag file not review unit, hamdir last I heard you were desperate to buy retail HTC one ,now you have a review unit ??

atrako1973 said:
No video unit was soffed using diag file not review unit, hamdir last I heard you were desperate to buy retail HTC one ,now you have a review unit ??
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i had two to choose from, one for me and one for my uncle
but decided to keep this one, the only difference with retail end of March units is the C2_1 panel vs C2_2, and a hairline gap at the bottom but very sold fit
no biggie
i kept the S-OFF it's more free and special :laugh: the other unit was branded from Orange UK
I do agree however, S-OFF is no big deal unless you have branded or obscure unit and you want to change CID, personally i consider an S-ON CID_01 as the second best after super CID

Golv said:
S-OFF - It's a real, but for money! Look at the photo of my HTC One ... After s-off will be superCID - CID11111111
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where did you get ur s-off done? need to do it for mine and how much did you pay?
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c900712 said:
where did you get ur s-off done? need to do it for mine and how much did you pay?
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It's in Russia, in Moscow)))
About 60 euro. Done in a few minutes... Link. Use the Google Translate please ...